The race is on - Namrups 65 Daytona Coupe build [Archive] - Page 2

Namrups

04-07-2022, 04:14 PM

Received my Watson's StreetWorks order today.

7"Round Replacement Hella Headlight Lens and Hot Rod IL-54 LED Courtesy Lights
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165167&d=1649365347

The headlights were supposed to be just the lens without bulbs but these do have bulbs in them.

I was looking to buy 3M HSRF. That stuff is expensive! I googled it and found a sale for 1 gallon of material for $105.51. That is cheaper than normal quart size. The sale was by Explosive Powersports. Against my better judgement I placed the order and it was accepted. The next day I received an email form them saying that the material was on backorder and would not be available for a couple of weeks if I wanted to cancel the order. I am letting the order stand because I wont need it for a while yet. I hope it's not a bait and switch issue.

Ltngdrvr

04-07-2022, 04:29 PM

The Hella lenses just come with the halogen bulbs I think, but Watson Street works sells them as a kit with LED bulbs too.
Which way did you buy them?
I saw the Hella's with LED's somewhere quite a bit cheaper than Watson's gets for them, but don't recall where right off hand.

Namrups

04-07-2022, 06:36 PM

edwardb

04-07-2022, 09:10 PM

I bought the GTR Ultra 2 H4 bulbs. The order from Watson's was for the Hella Vision Plus conversion headlamp. They should have come without bulbs. The packing slip notes "without bulbs". Someone screwed up.

The HELLA 002395301 headlamps are intended to be halogen conversion parts and include the bulbs. I've purchased them several times, including for my Coupe, and they always came with the halogen bulbs. That's how they're packaged from Hella. Which of course you don't use because you're using the LED ones. I've bought them from Watson's but also on Amazon. Same either way. I suspect the note on the packlist meant less the LED bulbs because he normally sells them as a package.

Namrups

04-08-2022, 07:12 AM

The HELLA 002395301 headlamps are intended to be halogen conversion parts and include the bulbs. I've purchased them several times, including for my Coupe, and they always came with the halogen bulbs. That's how they're packaged from Hella. Which of course you don't use because you're using the LED ones. I've bought them from Watson's but also on Amazon. Same either way. I suspect the note on the packlist meant less the LED bulbs because he normally sells them as a package.

Ok, That explains things. Thanks Paul.

Namrups

04-09-2022, 09:45 AM

Received my Vintage Air SuperFlow Horizontal A/C condenser today.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165226&d=1649515301

Namrups

04-10-2022, 05:17 PM

The General Tools #55 Heavy Duty Circle Cutter arrived today.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165299&d=1649628921

Namrups

04-13-2022, 03:41 PM

2 Mini LED License Plate Bolts were sitting in the mail box today!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165460&d=1649882134

Running out of things to order. That's a good thing. Means I will not have to wait for anything (other than POL items from FF5) when the car arrives.

Namrups

04-15-2022, 07:18 AM

Two 40 lb Solenoids (commonly called door poppers) arrived from Speedway Motors. I will be controlling these with the Digital Guard Dawg I purchased. Speedway also has a solenoid kit that includes the control module if using the standard keyed ignition.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165500&d=1650024762

Namrups

04-15-2022, 07:22 AM

Geoff H

04-15-2022, 08:35 AM

Congratulations! Perfect time to build.

cgundermann

04-15-2022, 10:57 AM

Congrats!

Chris

Skuzzy

04-15-2022, 11:16 AM

Congratulations! I love retirement! I was nervous about it, at first, but it is awesome!

Namrups

04-15-2022, 12:17 PM

Congratulations! Perfect time to build.

Congrats!

Chris

Congratulations! I love retirement! I was nervous about it, at first, but it is awesome!

Thanks Guys. Looking forward to the "life of retirement" just a little nervous about the "income of retirement".

Namrups

04-18-2022, 05:22 PM

The FKB rear IRS rod ends arrived today from Summit. This isn't a common upgrade but I had seen where some had issues so why not....
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165637&d=1650319206

Also received the Allstar power steering tank bracket for the fuel vent canister, also from summit. Have all the parts for that now.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165636&d=1650319206

It was such a nice day today I opened the garage door and spent some time in the fresh air. Assembled all of the parts for the fuel vent canister. The body is from Lowes consisting of a 2" coupling. 2 end caps with holes threaded for 3/4" hose barbs. The nylon hose barbs were from McMaster-Carr. Part #5228K29 I had scotchbrite pads under the sink and the activated charcoal was from Walmart. I went to Harbor Freight today and picked up a package of misc. hose clamps.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165639&d=1650319497

I cut the scotchbrite pads to fit inside the end caps to keep the charcoal in place and screwed the hose barbs in place.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165638&d=1650319497

Inserted one end cap into the coupling and poured in the charcoal. Pushed the other end cap into the coupling and clamped the whole unit to the power steering tank bracket. The fit of the end caps is tight. I did not glue anything together. Allows for replacement of the charcoal if needed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165640&d=1650319497

Thanks to Paul (edwardB) for the design and part numbers.

Ltngdrvr

04-18-2022, 05:28 PM

THE NEXT CHAPTER

My official retirement date is April 30th but, with the vacation time I have left, yesterday was my last day at work!! Both exciting and scary. Time to put the finishing touches on my build space before the weekly paycheck stops.

Didn't you just recently go back to work after being out on sick leave?
Name of the game on retirement is BUDGET!
Make one and stick to it.

Namrups

04-18-2022, 05:28 PM

As I stated above I went to Harbor Freight today. (I have to stop doing that :p) I picked up a Pittsburgh 2.5 CFM Vacuum Pump that I will need to install the A/C system.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165641&d=1650320711

Namrups

04-18-2022, 05:32 PM

Didn't you just recently go back to work after being out on sick leave?
Name of the game on retirement is BUDGET!
Make one and stick to it.

Yes I did. My official retirement date is April 30th at which point my income will be cut. Until then I want to finish buying anything else I may need/want before the money runs out. There is a method to my madness. After May 1st it's a whole new ball game.

rhk118

05-06-2022, 09:29 AM

Namrups - loving the pics of all the great things coming in...now I have questions!

- Are you doing your own AC install or did you get the FFR kit? Just wondering about the Vintage Air SuperFlow Horizontal A/C condenser....I'm going with the FFR kit
- Can you post some pics of the BOIG pipes once they are polished...looks like you tried but don't see the pics coming through. I have a set here for mine as well, was going to wet sand them to get some polish going, but would like to see how yours turned out and perhaps save some effort.
- Now I need to research the FKB rear IRS rod ends and why I should do them on mine!
- I really like the door popper idea with keyfob...
- What are you going to be using for your rivets and rivnuts? Just the rivets from the kit? Haven't had time to research much on this but I suspect there are higher quality rivets out there for certain areas, time to start stocking up.
- When you scheduled for your kit?

And last but not least - CONGRATS on retirement man! You are starting off with one heck of a way to enjoy it.

Cheers,
Hank

Namrups

05-06-2022, 10:21 AM

Hi Hank. Great questions.

For the A/C I'm going with the FF supplied unit. Based on Paul's (EdwardB) great build there might be a fit issue with the supplied condenser from FF. He built his a while ago so this may have been addressed already but given my limited time left on this world I didn't want to delay so I went with the same unit he went with for a better fit.

The Boig pipes from the supplier were a dull raw aluminum with scuff marks and scratches from the bending process. After using the scotchbrite pad and a coating of SharkHide they looked a lot better. Not perfect but ok in my book.
Brushed tube next to raw tube:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=164242&d=1647740661
Both tubes brushed and coated:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=164243&d=1647740661
Close up of finished tubes:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=164244&d=1647740680

As far as the rod ends, check out "Cobra Daytona Build" on utube. This is a great series of a Daytona build in video. (I have also seen his posts on this forum at times) He had an issue with the rear rod ends and this is his solution. I will admit that this is the only case that I have seen documented and it might not be an issue but I followed his lead.

Most owners of the coupe just stick there hand thru the window to open the doors. I saw the popper idea somewhere that I don't remember. The idea stuck in the back of my mind. Then when I decided to use the Digital Guard Dawg push button ignition (Thanks again to Paul!) I noticed that I could upgrade that system to accommodate the two extra circuits for each popper. Sold!

I am going to use the kit supplied rivets. If I feel I need stronger/bigger rivets in a special location I will order thru McMaster-Carr. Any rivnuts will also be from MC. Using both silicone and supplied rivets for attachment will be more than strong enough. The need for stronger rivets (SS for example) is just a waste of money IMO.

My kit is scheduled for late June early July.

I have been officially retired for 1 week now and I have to say it feels weird. I am not used to not having any structure to my day. It will take some getting used to. I do love the idea of doing what I want when I want! The only person I need to account to is myself.

rhk118

05-07-2022, 09:20 AM

I have been officially retired for 1 week now and I have to say it feels weird. I am not used to not having any structure to my day. It will take some getting used to. I do love the idea of doing what I want when I want! The only person I need to account to is myself.

Retirement, where every day is Saturday except Sunday! Thanks for the reply, the Boig pipe photos still not coming through on my end on Google chrome, no biggie.

Namrups

05-17-2022, 08:09 PM

Good News/Bad News

Those of you following my thread know that my plan was to retire at the end of April and to use my retirement bonus to make my final payment to FFR for the coupe and to Forte for the engine/transmission having delivery of both in late June/early July.

Good News

I did retire on April 30th and I have received my retirement bonus. I took a ride down to FFR today and spent some time with Mike. He gave me a tour of the facility and I gave him my final payment. I got the opportunity to spend some time with Dave Smith also. We had a very good conversation and I really appreciate him taking some time out of his day to talk with me. Looking at a final build date of June 11th. With luck I will see my baby sitting there, waiting for Stewart, at the open house! How exciting is that.

Bad News

I also stopped at Mike Forte's and gave him additional funds towards my engine/transmission I have on order with him. My initial plan was to be able to pay him in full at this same time and get delivery around the same time as the coupe. Given the state of the world today with $6.00 gas, heat and light bill that has doubled, the high cost of groceries, and most important the out of pocket cost of my cancer meds going from $120.00 per year to $15,000.00 a year I am unable to swing the full final payment to Mike at this time. We had a good conversation and I am going to try to continue to send him money when I can and he is seeing what he can do to keep me from going to the back of the line again. It is very disappointing for me due to my unknown life span and the wish to complete the build in a timely manor but it is what it is and I will deal with it. Hell, I've got a Mega Millions and a Powerball ticket here ..... you never know!

All in all a great day. Got to meet more people at FFR and am looking forward to the open house in June. Hope to meet many of the forum members then!

Ltngdrvr

05-17-2022, 08:16 PM

What powertrain are you buying from Forte?
There are much less expensive options available.

Ltngdrvr

05-17-2022, 08:24 PM

Namrups

05-17-2022, 08:51 PM

Ok, I looked back and see you are going with a very expensive 427 windsor from Forte.
There are much less expensive options available, and will provide plenty of power to make for a very thrilling ride.
Also, not sure what you are looking at for the IRS, but you can buy complete good used axle assemblies for sometimes less than a grand, getting all the parts needed that FFR doesn't supply in the standard kit, center section, hubs and brake assemblies.

There are LOTS of ways to cut your costs.

You are 100% right. But as this is a one and done for me I want what I want. I was not willing to go with donor parts. I plan to hand this down to my daughter and I want it to be all new. Did I need to do all of the upgrades that I have purchased ... No. Am I taking a chance that I won't get it finished ... Yes I am. Don't misunderstand my post. I am not complaining about the new roadblocks I now have to deal with. Just disappointed in how plans have changed. If I had had a crystal ball back in November when I made the decision to purchase I may have done things differently. Maybe, maybe not. Water over the bridge now.

Namrups

05-18-2022, 01:12 PM

Contacted Stewart for a quote. I'm 215 miles from Factory Five. They quoted me $1500.00. Is that in line with what others have been quoted?

Jeff Kleiner

05-18-2022, 01:42 PM

Contacted Stewart for a quote. I'm 215 miles from Factory Five. They quoted me $1500.00. Is that in line with what others have been quoted?

Stewart is great at what they do but you need to understand that a large percentage of what they charge for is space on that big truck. That initial charge is the same whether they're taking it 215 miles or 2000. Once you purchase that spot on the big truck then mileage starts getting added on. I've had Stewart deliver every new kit that I've built (I'm over 1,000 miles from FFR) but if I was in your shoes with just over a 400 mile round trip I'd rent a U-Haul trailer and truck and go pick it up.

Here's some food for thought:

My local rate for a U-Haul pickup + 12' open trailer for 24 hours is $224 + .59/per mile. Lets shoot high and say 500 miles and 10MPG @ $5.00/gallon.

$224 rental
$295 mileage
$250 fuel
______________
$769

Jeff

Namrups

05-18-2022, 02:57 PM

What about sales tax. If I pick it up do I have to pay FF sales tax?

JohnK

05-18-2022, 03:01 PM

Yes, you will have to pay sales tax if you pick it up in person but you will get that credited back toward whatever your NY sales tax bill will be when you go to register your completed car.

Ltngdrvr

05-18-2022, 04:05 PM

What about sales tax. If I pick it up do I have to pay FF sales tax?

Yes, you will have to pay sales tax if you pick it up in person but you will get that credited back toward whatever your NY sales tax bill will be when you go to register your completed car.

Yup, you will pay it anyway, no getting around it.

Doesn't FFR charge sales tax no matter whether picking up or delivering?

JohnK

05-18-2022, 04:12 PM

No, if Stewart Transport delivers it to you (outside of MA), then FFR does not charge you sales tax.

Ltngdrvr

05-18-2022, 05:19 PM

No, if Stewart Transport delivers it to you (outside of MA), then FFR does not charge you sales tax.

Oh well, you'll still end up paying eventually.

Namrups

05-18-2022, 06:37 PM

It boils down to spending the money now or later when it comes to the tax. My decision is weather I want to pay $1500 to get it delivered and worry about the taxes later or to save about 1/2 the delivery charges by making arrangements to pick it up myself and paying the sales tax upfront. Trying to limit out of pocket spending, due to existing circumstances that have presented themselves since I retired, I am leaning towards Stewart.

Ltngdrvr

05-18-2022, 07:51 PM

If you go the u-haul route, you should be able to save a lot more than half, but you'd have to unload it yourself.
I don't know what kind of other wheels you have, but if you have something available that could haul a trailer, then you could save even more.

Namrups

05-18-2022, 10:50 PM

That's one of my issues. My Challenger is it. Been asking around but have not come up with anything yet. I'll get it figured out.

Ltngdrvr

05-18-2022, 11:31 PM

That's one of my issues. My Challenger is it. Been asking around but have not come up with anything yet. I'll get it figured out.

Beg, borrow or steal!

Gizmosrcool

05-29-2022, 08:34 AM

Hi Namrups,

I found your build "inspirational" and i am exciting to see your build progress and how the community is supporting. Good vibes and prayers are coming your way from FL and I can't wait to see the delivery process and you kicking off the build. Wishing you the best. Regards, Tom

Namrups

05-29-2022, 10:46 AM

Thanks Tom! Welcome to the club. My build date is June 11th! Should see it sitting on the rack at the open house. Excitement is building. Glad to have been an inspiration to you.

Gizmosrcool

05-29-2022, 05:04 PM

I did the factory tour in 2017 and it was terrific. Enjoy the open house!

Namrups

06-15-2022, 12:38 PM

The Excitement Builds

I just got the call from Stewart Transport! Delivery is scheduled for next Wednesday 6/22!!!!!

Skuzzy

06-15-2022, 02:23 PM

Awesome!

rhk118

06-15-2022, 08:32 PM

Fantastic! Congrats.

FracAG1980

06-15-2022, 09:20 PM

The Excitement Builds

I just got the call from Stewart Transport! Delivery is scheduled for next Wednesday 6/22!!!!!

Congrats!! It is worth the wait!!

Namrups

06-15-2022, 09:29 PM

The excitement is defiantly building .....

Jeff Kleiner

06-16-2022, 04:29 AM

Woo-hoo! Big news :)

Jeff

Namrups

06-16-2022, 01:06 PM

When I was at the FF open house I picked up one of their aluminum plaques to hang in the garage.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168164&d=1655402604

And like everything else with these builds I had to add some bling to it!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168165&d=1655402604

Namrups

06-22-2022, 04:04 PM

Delivery is scheduled for tomorrow!!!

Al_C

06-22-2022, 08:55 PM

Well? did the big truck show up today? Inquiring minds need to know! (hope it got delivered. It is so cool seeing that truck pull up to your home...)

Namrups

06-23-2022, 06:08 AM

Well? did the big truck show up today? Inquiring minds need to know! (hope it got delivered. It is so cool seeing that truck pull up to your home...)

The delivery got pushed out to today. Mark (the driver) called and said he would be here between 10:00am and noon. Excitement is building. Pics to follow!

Gizmosrcool

06-23-2022, 10:10 AM

Exciting. I certainly will not be able to sleep the night before my delivery. I can’t wait to see the baby in its crib pictures.

klawrence

06-23-2022, 10:15 AM

could not wipe the grin off my face when the Stewart truck showed up at my house

cgundermann

06-23-2022, 10:29 AM

Sooo exciting…

Chris

ydousurf

06-23-2022, 12:32 PM

Yeah, Chris is correct! Exciting times await! And I'm so happy for you too! I was giddy as a child getting the best Christmas present ever. Take video and capture your emotions, even if only to be shared with your family, or just something to reflect back on, once you have your build completed. I'm still following along... All the best to you on your journey, Namrups!

Doug

Namrups

06-23-2022, 08:04 PM

Delivery Day

The long awaited delivery day is finally here! My brother flew up from Florida to help. He's as excited as I am. Stewarts driver, Mark, figured arrival between 10:00am and noon. Rain was threatening. The garage was ready. Dan and Alan stopped by to give a hand. Thankfully the rain held off.

The garage at 10:00am.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168519&d=1656031127

The Stewart truck rolled up at about 10:30am.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168520&d=1656031127

First one off the truck!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168521&d=1656031127

My baby at home!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168522&d=1656031127

Half the neighborhood stopped by during the early evening. I had some help getting the body off and hung.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168523&d=1656031127

I've got 35 items on my POL list. Main items were the box of aluminum panels, left and right cv axles, headers, front spindles, and power steering rack. The rest were items I can work around for now. One item that was not there was the differential. It was not listed on any inventory sheet nor was it listed on the POL list. I thought that was a FF supplied part and was not drop shipped from anywhere so to not see it listed was odd to me. I will have to contact FF to see what's up.

Overall a great day filled with a lot of excitement.

And yes I did!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168524&d=1656031147

cgundermann

06-23-2022, 08:09 PM

Awesome!

Chris

burchfieldb

06-24-2022, 07:04 PM

The center section is called out on my order as " 16668 - 2018 Mustang IRS 3.55 Center Section, Spindles, and Hubs" with the spindles and hubs.

Namrups

06-24-2022, 07:07 PM

Started removing the aluminum panels this morning.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168574&d=1656115242
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168575&d=1656115242
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168576&d=1656115242

My neighbor brought their 6 year old son over. She told me that he loves cars and was so excited when he saw the Stewart truck. He had been asking her to come see the car since. Told them both he is welcome at any time as long as he minds his parents and does good in school. Based on his excitement I believe we are looking at a straight "A" student. Looks like I have a new build partner.

rhk118

06-26-2022, 08:42 AM

Great start brother! So happy you are going on this, your garage and use of space looks to be in good order. I'm missing many of the same parts you are - 2 pages worth, but they have been trickling in.

Also reminded me that I need to find some pool noodles haha, at least its the right season for those.

Namrups

06-26-2022, 08:47 AM

rhk118

06-27-2022, 06:36 AM

I only have one panel left to remove. My first attempt was not good. Any tips or ideas are welcome.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168633&d=1656250634

Page 329 of the manual addresses that particular panel.

Namrups

06-27-2022, 07:30 AM

Page 329 of the manual addresses that particular panel.

Thanks!

Jeff Kleiner

06-27-2022, 08:03 AM

Short update.

I have my daughter this weekend so not much happening with the coupe. I did get to spend a little time this morning, while she was still sleeping, to remove most of the panels.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168632&d=1656250634

I only have one panel left to remove. My first attempt was not good. Any tips or ideas are welcome.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168633&d=1656250634

After putting the panels in a safe place I took a closer look at the body. I have read about a lot of nightmares when it comes to the fiberglass layup. I believe FF has changed/improved their process. My body looks great. I don't see any major voids. Can't see any delamination.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168634&d=1656250634

One area that was really an issue was around the vent windows. That has improved greatly!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168635&d=1656250634
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168636&d=1656250634

Congrats! I'm just catching up after being away for the London Show. For some reason I'm not seeing your photos????

Regarding your body; an all new mold went into use a couple of months ago. Dave sent me pics after they popped the first body out of it and then when I was at the Open House I was able to check out several "in the flesh" (one might have been yours!) and the clumsy area in the rear quarters and around the rear portion of the windows is greatly improved, both in shape and with what it allows during the layup.

Looking forward to your updates---(now I have to see if I can figure out whether the missing photos are due to an issue on my end)

:)

Jeff

Namrups

06-27-2022, 08:23 AM

Congrats! I'm just catching up after being away for the London Show. For some reason I'm not seeing your photos????

Regarding your body; an all new mold went into use a couple of months ago. Dave sent me pics after they popped the first body out of it and then when I was at the Open House I was able to check out several "in the flesh" (one might have been yours!) and the clumsy area in the rear quarters and around the rear portion of the windows is greatly improved, both in shape and with what it allows during the layup.

Looking forward to your updates---(now I have to see if I can figure out whether the missing photos are due to an issue on my end)

:)

Jeff

Let me know what you find with the photo's. I have not had anyone else mention that they can't see them.

Jeff Kleiner

06-27-2022, 08:43 AM

Let me know what you find with the photo's. I have not had anyone else mention that they can't see them.

Don't know what's up Scott???? Not showing up on either the iPhone or PC, both running Chrome. Photos show up in other topics and even in this thread up until those posted of the delivery and after.

Jeff

smccoy

06-27-2022, 09:01 AM

Don't know what's up Scott???? Not showing up on either the iPhone or PC, both running Chrome. Photos show up in other topics and even in this thread up until those posted of the delivery and after.

Jeff

Same with me. I am not seeing any photos from the delivery date on. Chrome on PC / Android here.

Namrups

06-27-2022, 09:42 AM

That is odd. I'm not doing anything different that I know of.

Namrups

06-27-2022, 09:48 AM

test. can anyone see this:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168522&d=1656031127

How about this one:
168660

smccoy

06-27-2022, 09:51 AM

test. can anyone see this:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168522&d=1656031127

How about this one:
168660

I can see the second one.

Namrups

06-27-2022, 09:52 AM

Ok. For those in the know..... If I am saving my build pictures into a "private" gallery and then trying to post them in my thread will they be seen or will they be blocked because the gallery is private? That is the only thing I can think of that is blocking anyone from seeing these pics.

Namrups

06-27-2022, 09:55 AM

I have changed the album to public. Lets see if this works...

Test:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168522&d=1656031127

smccoy

06-27-2022, 10:02 AM

I have changed the album to public. Lets see if this works...

Test:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168522&d=1656031127

This one came through so maybe the album privacy setting has something to do with it.

Jeff Kleiner

06-27-2022, 10:06 AM

Yes! I went back to your delivery and panel removal pics and they are there too! Now all of us who have been (almost ;) ) as anxious as you will be able to watch!

Jeff

Namrups

06-27-2022, 10:13 AM

Glad that's fixed. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I was kind of wondering why I was not getting any responses ....:p

Blitzboy54

06-27-2022, 12:29 PM

Scott,

I'm glad I finally got out yesterday. I figured out why my drivers door was acting up (self inflicted wound, like most of them). Like I said I'm going to try and get out to help as much as I can. Can't wait to hear that sucker run. It's a complete bonus that the ride out to your house a great little cobra run. So any excuse will be used. lol

Namrups

06-27-2022, 02:57 PM

NYMike

06-27-2022, 05:42 PM

Congrats on taking delivery and getting going Scott. Looks like you’re off to a good start. I haven’t spent much time outside of roadster land here so I’m looking forward to following along.

Gizmosrcool

06-27-2022, 07:08 PM

Way better. I was not sure if something was amiss or it was me. Glad to see the pictures from delivery day and a few work days. Very nice

Namrups

06-27-2022, 08:20 PM

Don't have my steering rack so I started work on the lower control arms. I am in the process of painting them. Will update with a pic when done. I also put grooves in the faces of the bushings to aid in allowing the grease to coat better.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168709&d=1656378695

The next step in the book is the front shocks. I upgraded to the Koni silver double adjustable shocks. I found the shocks and the 500 lb springs. The build manual shows how to build and install the standard red Koni shocks and I used that as a guide for the silver ones. Basically the same. Those lock rings gave me some fits.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168710&d=1656378695

After putting them together I was going to temporarily mock them up but on page 67 of the manual it says to locate the coil-over mounting hardware. Yep, you got it... no coil-over mounting hardware listed on any of my inventory sheets. Another email to FF.

For those in the know .... who exactly should I be emailing/calling with inventory issues like this? The only contact I have at FF is Mike D. so I have been emailing him. (no response yet)

edwardb

06-27-2022, 10:42 PM

The next step in the book is the front shocks. I upgraded to the Koni silver double adjustable shocks. I found the shocks and the 500 lb springs. The build manual shows how to build and install the standard red Koni shocks and I used that as a guide for the silver ones. Basically the same. Those lock rings gave me some fits.

After putting them together I was going to temporarily mock them up but on page 67 of the manual it says to locate the coil-over mounting hardware. Yep, you got it... no coil-over mounting hardware listed on any of my inventory sheets. Another email to FF.

For those in the know .... who exactly should I be emailing/calling with inventory issues like this? The only contact I have at FF is Mike D. so I have been emailing him. (no response yet)

You're right. The silver double adjustable shocks don't have separate instructions. But are assembled like the red ones. They are, however, mentioned in the build manual several places: Body of the shock always down. Mounted in the top hole locations. Both are important potential differences. As you mount them, also orient them to allow access to the upper and lower adjusters.

You don't have the mounting bolts and spacers for the coilovers? Those are pretty routine parts. Sure they're not on the inventory list? Obviously contact Factory Five if unaccounted for. I will contact someone directly if I know them or they're expecting me to contact them. But generally I think they want these inquires into the customerservice@factoryfive.com email. Make sure the title gives a good summary of what the problem is.

Skuzzy

06-28-2022, 06:48 AM

I did not get my mounting bolts or spacers until my last POL shipment. I could not find them on the inventory list either.

Namrups

06-28-2022, 06:55 AM

You're right. The silver double adjustable shocks don't have separate instructions. But are assembled like the red ones. They are, however, mentioned in the build manual several places: Body of the shock always down. Mounted in the top hole locations. Both are important potential differences. As you mount them, also orient them to allow access to the upper and lower adjusters.

You don't have the mounting bolts and spacers for the coilovers? Those are pretty routine parts. Sure they're not on the inventory list? Obviously contact Factory Five if unaccounted for. I will contact someone directly if I know them or they're expecting me to contact them. But generally I think they want these inquires into the customerservice@factoryfive.com email. Make sure the title gives a good summary of what the problem is.

Thanks for the info Skuzzy. I will follow-up at that address.

edwardb

06-28-2022, 07:10 AM

Namrups

06-28-2022, 07:49 AM

FWIW, I checked my Coupe inventory pages. The front coilover mounts were in box 1i Primary Chassis Components. Listed under 15344 Coupe Complete Kit IFS Components. Included bolts, nuts, washers, and spacers. The rear coilover mounts were in box 11-1 Gen 3 Coupe 2015 IRS Parts. Listed under 15935 IRS Shock Mounting Components. Like the front, listed bolts, nuts, and spacers.

Note that if you ordered the front swaybar kit, the stock lower bolts are replaced with longer ones included with the sway bars.

Thanks Paul!! I saw those but the manual didn't list what size the hardware was so I was not sure. And yes I did order the swaybar so that tidbit is important. Can I mount the sway bar before the steering rack and spindles or should I wait?

Thanks for watching my back!

edwardb

06-28-2022, 08:22 AM

Thanks Paul!! I saw those but the manual didn't list what size the hardware was so I was not sure. And yes I did order the swaybar so that tidbit is important. Can I mount the sway bar before the steering rack and spindles or should I wait?

Thanks for watching my back!

No, I'd wait for the front suspension to be fully assembled before mounting the sway bar. It's an easy add with everything else in place, although you may want to dig out those longer lower coilover bolts and use them for the initial assembly.

Not unusual for the manual to not list the specific hardware sizes. That's where the inventory lists become very useful.

Namrups

06-28-2022, 10:39 AM

No, I'd wait for the front suspension to be fully assembled before mounting the sway bar. It's an easy add with everything else in place, although you may want to dig out those longer lower coilover bolts and use them for the initial assembly.

Not unusual for the manual to not list the specific hardware sizes. That's where the inventory lists become very useful.

Happy to hear your answer was to wait as I was checking the inventory for the mounting hardware for the swaybars and found that the rod ends are on the POL list.

Namrups

06-28-2022, 02:44 PM

Can anyone see any major issues with the way I have the body hung?
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168752&d=1656444831
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168748&d=1656444831
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168751&d=1656444831
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168750&d=1656444831
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168749&d=1656444831

Skuzzy

06-28-2022, 06:54 PM

Looks like your body came out of a fairly new mold. Much better looking than mine. My body and hood are sitting outside, under a UV blocking tarp. Although, in this 100F+ heat I am concerned about it getting out of shape.

I am considering mounting what I need to mount to the frame in order to fit the body. Then inserting guide posts, into the frame so I can have the freedom to install/remove the body for various aspects of the build.

Looks like you have things covered in the hanging setup.

racingandfishing

06-28-2022, 07:09 PM

I too will be looking for options to raise the car body in my garage. I have a four post lift and ten foot ceiling, so was thinking of either putting a platform on stilts on the lift to store the body above the chassis or something similar to this with pulleys that folks with Jeeps and other vehicles use to store removal hardtops. Guessing setting the body on a flat platform is acceptable?

168762

Namrups

06-28-2022, 07:52 PM

Setting it on a flat platform would be no different than setting it on the ground. Your good to go with that.

rhk118

06-28-2022, 09:09 PM

I think it looks like a pretty slick setup Scott. I like that you have the bottom rails supported and that spacer 2x2 seems to be keeping the body from getting "squeezed" by the straps.

dstelter

06-29-2022, 07:13 AM

Very close to my set up.
168764

Congrats on the delivery. I will be watching your build as well.

Doug

Namrups

06-29-2022, 07:29 AM

Very close to my set up.
168764

Congrats on the delivery. I will be watching your build as well.

Doug

Looking good Doug. I had my garage side walls increased from the standard 9 feel to 10 feet. That allowed me to get the body high enough to work under. One of my better decisions in life:rolleyes:

rhk118

07-02-2022, 11:23 AM

I also put grooves in the faces of the bushings to aid in allowing the grease to coat better.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168709&d=1656378695

Is this common practice for the bushings? Just gives me the heebie-jeebies a bit scoring an otherwise perfect bushing, but understand the need to evacuate some air haha :eek:

Skuzzy

07-02-2022, 02:49 PM

Is this common practice for the bushings? Just gives me the heebie-jeebies a bit scoring an otherwise perfect bushing, but understand the need to evacuate some air haha :eek:

A couple of points about this.

1) Cutting grooves like that allows water and debris to get into the bushing. If you want to have a bit more grease captured for the bushing, then use a 1/16" drill bit and dimple around the face of the bushing, keeping the dimples closer to the center away from the edges.

2) If these are urethane bushings, then DO NOT use a hydrocarbon based lubricant on them. That will insure squeaking as those lubricants interact with the urethane causing surface tension changes in the material. Use a marine grade synthetic silicon, such as this stuff. (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016E5E59G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I'll warn you about that lubricant. Once you get it on something, it is very difficult to get it off.

edwardb

07-02-2022, 03:09 PM

Is this common practice for the bushings? Just gives me the heebie-jeebies a bit scoring an otherwise perfect bushing, but understand the need to evacuate some air haha :eek:

This practice is encouraged at the build school, maybe by others. I've done it on a couple of my builds and agree it definitely helps the joints to accept grease better. Without the grooves, sometimes grease won't flow into the joint without a lot of pressure. I wouldn't get carried away with it. But I think the good outweighs whatever negative there might be.

Namrups

07-02-2022, 04:23 PM

Actually the bushings on the UCA's are molded with the grooves so for me this is a non-issue.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168860&d=1656796865

I do want to thank everyone for their input. I appreciate any and all comments.

Namrups

07-02-2022, 04:50 PM

Nine days since delivery

Missing power steering rack, LCA lock nuts, front spindles, IRS diff, and rear spindles so in the mean time I started painting what I had. I am using POR15. The process takes 7 steps. Step one is cleaning/degreasing. Step two is either etching bare metal or lightly sanding painted/PC surfaces. Step three is a light coat of POR15 gray undercoat. Step 4 is a second coat of the gray. Step 5 - 7 are three light coats of POR 15 top coat in red. I found that three light coats cover better than 2 heaver coats. The POR15 runs if applied too heavy.

LCA's
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168861&d=1656798384

Front Koni shocks assembled and ready
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168710&d=1656378695

UCA's
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168858&d=1656796865

Front hubs
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=168859&d=1656796865

Expecting some missing inventory items to be shipped next week per FF. Some nuts would be nice. In the mean time I will be drilling holes in aluminum!!

rhk118

07-03-2022, 09:56 AM

Looking good Scott...and appreciate the input on the bushings. I assume those were the lower control arms, the grooves will get some grease between the bushing and the mount tabs.

Namrups

07-03-2022, 12:50 PM

Looking good Scott...and appreciate the input on the bushings. I assume those were the lower control arms, the grooves will get some grease between the bushing and the mount tabs.

Yes, those were the lower bushings. The upper bushings have grooves already molded in.

Namrups

07-03-2022, 06:01 PM

edwardb

07-03-2022, 10:00 PM

I decided to mock up what I had of the front suspension today. I wanted to get a feel for how my color choices were going to look. Due to the missing items nothing is tightened down. Everything is only hand tight. I think it's going to look good! I am pleased with it.

Interesting. The red looks nice. (But then I'm a sucker for red. :rolleyes:) One thing though. You have the silver double adjustable shocks. The manual states "If using the silver double adjustable shocks, these must be mounted with the body of the shock down in the top hole location for both street and race cars." (Bold is mine) Yours are mounted in the lower hole. An easy fix.

Namrups

07-04-2022, 07:44 AM

Interesting. The red looks nice. (But then I'm a sucker for red. :rolleyes:) One thing though. You have the silver double adjustable shocks. The manual states "If using the silver double adjustable shocks, these must be mounted with the body of the shock down in the top hole location for both street and race cars." (Bold is mine) Yours are mounted in the lower hole. An easy fix.

Your Right!! Thanks for the catch. I was thinking about removing them to paint the spacers anyways. My minds now made up.:p

Namrups

07-05-2022, 05:42 PM

Received Russ Thompsons turn signal unit today. Thanks Russ!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169016&d=1657060932

Namrups

07-06-2022, 08:28 PM

Day 13 update

Not a whole lot to report. Continuing to paint the rear suspension parts that I have. Hoping FF can get more suspension parts to me in the next two weeks. Working on fitting panels in the mean time. I ordered A/C so there is an access panel on the passengers side. Of course I want this panel removable. One way is to use rivnuts (nutserts?). I had never tried using them before. There was another post about what tool to use to install these. I have the double wrench tool from McMaster-Carr.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169028&d=1657135867

It's really simple to use. Insert the supplied long screw thru the tool and screw on a rivnut. Insert the rivnut into the hole.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169029&d=1657135867

Using two wrenches hold the large bottom of the tool stationary and back out the smaller upper part of the tool. This collapses the rivnut and secures it.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169030&d=1657135867

It is very easy to feel when the rivnut is tight so that you don't over torque it. Back off the top part of the tool and unscrew the long screw and your done.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169031&d=1657135867

Completed access panel.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169059&d=1657157244

Namrups

07-06-2022, 08:31 PM

Progress to date.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169047&d=1657156207
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169048&d=1657156207
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169049&d=1657156207

bjblock

07-07-2022, 01:44 AM

Good progress, Scott. I really appreciate the level of detail in this thread, keep it up!

burchfieldb

07-07-2022, 02:28 AM

Namrups

07-07-2022, 08:38 AM

I like the rolling jack stand setup, I will need to do something like that when mine arrives.

I wanted to be able to move it around. I also wanted it to be a secure as possible. I found the open ended turn buckles at Lowes for a couple of dollars apiece. It makes for a very stable setup that can be easily moved.

Namrups

07-07-2022, 08:43 AM

Good progress, Scott. I really appreciate the level of detail in this thread, keep it up!

Like many others I have never attempted a project like this and am grateful to to other builders that have detailed their builds. I am paying it forward by detailing my build as well in the hopes it will help anyone else.

burchfieldb

07-07-2022, 05:12 PM

Like many others I have never attempted a project like this and am grateful to to other builders that have detailed their builds. I am paying it forward by detailing my build as well in the hopes it will help anyone else.

I am also very grateful for the amount of time everyone in this community takes to detail things out for others to learn and plan to pay it forward as well, once I recieve my coupe in Octoberish time frame.

On an unrelated note, what is everyone's thoughts on Mustang style gas tank vs something like a Fuel Safe fuel cell?

Namrups

07-07-2022, 08:12 PM

Using a fuel cell never crossed my mind. I am going with the kit supplied tank and possibly a drop trunk. Haven't decided on that one yet. This might be a good question to start a fresh link on.

rhk118

07-08-2022, 09:38 AM

I am also very grateful for the amount of time everyone in this community takes to detail things out for others to learn and plan to pay it forward as well, once I recieve my coupe in Octoberish time frame.

On an unrelated note, what is everyone's thoughts on Mustang style gas tank vs something like a Fuel Safe fuel cell?

My understanding on fuel cells is they need bladder replacement every X number of years and are $$$, and if you're tracking then great do it, but if not tracking then nothing better then old reliable gas tank.

Namrups

07-11-2022, 08:17 AM

Weekend build update

Had a busy weekend. On Saturday I met with the Upstate Cobra Club in Lake George NY. There were a dozen or more roadsters (not just FF) and the one FF coupe. (you can see it way in the back) I was lucky enough to be able to ride shotgun in the coupe! We spent 4 hours driving the backroads in the Adirondack mountains. What a blast.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169261&d=1657544352

Sunday was a local Mopar show put on by a local Dodge dealer that I also attended with the Challenger.

I was able to get some work done on the coupe. I completed fitting and drilling the panels for the interior.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169260&d=1657544131

Still waiting on a lot of the suspension parts so the next step in the book is the gas tank. I installed the in-tank fuel pump, (upgraded unit as described earlier in the thread) the fuel level indicator and the upgraded Breeze big vent kit. I did have to snip a little of the opening to get the in-tank fuel pump installed. Everything else went as described in the book and with the Breeze instruction manual.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169252&d=1657542989
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169253&d=1657542989
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169256&d=1657542989

Namrups

07-11-2022, 08:24 AM

Also installed the genuine Ford fill tube gasket. I also cut the fill tube as described in the manual and set it aside for installation later in the build.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169255&d=1657542989

With the help of some friends we mocked up the tank in the chassis. AS shown below I did not have to use longer bolts as other have had to do.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169259&d=1657543025
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169258&d=1657543025
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169257&d=1657543025

I was also able to mock up the location of the Trick Flow fuel filter before calling it quits for the night.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169254&d=1657542989

rhk118

07-12-2022, 02:50 PM

Looking great Scott! Like your method of "fitting" the trick flow there. Did you need to flatten the seams/tabs on the gas tank to install (I think they are in the back?)?

Namrups

07-12-2022, 08:47 PM

Looking great Scott! Like your method of "fitting" the trick flow there. Did you need to flatten the seams/tabs on the gas tank to install (I think they are in the back?)?

Yes I did have to flatten the edges. Two in the back and one in the front. I also agree with what Paul did and ordered some 1/8" foam to put between the tank and the frame to keep it from possibly rattling or scraping. I will apply that when I put the tank in for good.

Namrups

07-13-2022, 10:27 PM

One step forward, two steps back

Day 20

One step forward

During the last couple of days, missing most of the suspension parts, I decided to move ahead and start working on the pedal box. I painted the upper mount and the two switch clips and installed the genuine GM switches, not the FF ones.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169367&d=1657720204

I mocked up the pedal box in the car and found that the cross brace might be off a little.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169368&d=1657720204

My solution is to use a washer to fill the void so that I don't put undue stress on the bracket of the pedal box. If anyone see's an issue with this solution please speak up.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169369&d=1657720204

One step back

Decided to take a step back and work on the top panels of the foot boxes. I wanted to be able to get into both side so I decided to make them removable. (Thanks Paul)

The full panel as supplied by FF.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169366&d=1657720204

I only wanted to make part of it removable because some of it is under the body cowl. The ruler shows the location of my cut.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169365&d=1657720204

Namrups

07-13-2022, 10:36 PM

I cut the panel with a Dremel cut off wheel.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169364&d=1657720150

The plan was to add a brace that will be attached to the fixed piece and support the removable piece. I picked up a strip of 1/16" x 1 1/2" x 36"aluminum at the local hardware store and cut it to fit.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169363&d=1657720150

Drilled the pop rivet holes in both the fixed piece and the support strip.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169362&d=1657720150

Painted the support strip.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169361&d=1657720150

Panels finished. Very pleased with the outcome.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169360&d=1657720150

Nigel Allen

07-13-2022, 10:41 PM

Neat job!

Namrups

07-13-2022, 10:45 PM

Second step back

Was notified yesterday that FF was sending 4 boxes totaling 210 pounds! Arrived this morning.

Steering rack!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169399&d=1657755875

Front spindles.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169397&d=1657755875

Rear spindles and hubs
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169398&d=1657755875

And the rear diff!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169400&d=1657755875

And yes, most of the fluid had leaked out of the diff. What a mess.

I also received 3/8" and 3/16" SS tubing from Summit.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169402&d=1657755900

Now I can go all the way back to the beginning of the build manual and start all over. Can't say I don't have anything to do now.

Blitzboy54

07-14-2022, 11:51 AM

I love receiving parts

Namrups

07-14-2022, 02:48 PM

After a very long wait I received my harness today!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169409&d=1657827989

Spending the next ten days on a staycation with my daughter. Not sure what kind of progress I'll have.

cgundermann

07-15-2022, 08:32 PM

You are trucking along Scott! You go - looking fantastic!

Chris

Namrups

07-15-2022, 09:44 PM

You are trucking along Scott! You go - looking fantastic!

Chris

Thanks Chris!

Namrups

07-18-2022, 09:01 PM

The staycation with my daughter is going great. As she is a night owl and likes to sleep till noon, it has given me time to work on a few items. The painting of the suspension parts is going good and pics will follow soon. I have ground down the mold seams on the rear spindles and will have those pics after painting also. I cut off the piece per the manual and need to go buy a 5/8" drill to drill out the hole.

I fabricated a piece to use to press out the existing studs in the rear hubs. Same idea as edwardb. Made from a 1" pipe nipple.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169575&d=1658195192

Used my vice to press the existing studs out.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169576&d=1658195192

The existing studs had a flat side to clear the hub edge.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169577&d=1658195192

The replacement studs do not so I had to grind a flat edge for that clearance.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169578&d=1658195192

I had purchased a wheel stud installer to use with a washer and lug nut. It worked great.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169579&d=1658195192

Namrups

07-18-2022, 09:17 PM

Lug installer setup.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169580&d=1658195239

I am using 1" spacers on the rear. The replacement studs are to long and need to be cut down after being installed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169581&d=1658195239

Spacer set in place shows clearance of the replacement studs.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169582&d=1658195239

I have also started to print the alignment spacers for the NRG removable steering wheel unit.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169583&d=1658195239

As a side note ..... to pay it forward for anyone that does not have access to a 3d printer, I can print the alignment spacers for you. I ask that, as a minimum, you cover the cost of shipping via USPS. PM me your address and I will check with the post office to get a cost. My printer takes about 5 hours to print the two pieces. I am not putting a price on these. Just send me what you think they are worth to you.

Jacob McCrea

07-18-2022, 09:51 PM

Looking very clean and tidy. As an old friend liked to say, "that's the kind of leadership we're looking for."

Namrups

07-22-2022, 10:20 AM

First major screw-up!

I was sitting in the garage in 90 degree heat painting my rear hubs and spindles when all of a sudden that light in my head lit up and almost blinded me! I had gone thru the process of changing the studs in the hubs and cutting them down to fit the 1" spacer. Measuring multiple times and picturing everything in my head because I was missing brake parts so I couldn't actually mock it up. Thought I was good to go. Wrong! Because I didn't have the Wilwood brakes I totally forgot that they would be between the hub and the spacer. I cut the studs too short!!! :p Will have to order new studs and repeat that process again.

Namrups

07-22-2022, 10:32 AM

Worked on getting the steering rack installed. Got it bolted into the frame without issue. Did not use offset bushings as others have used. Turned rack all the way to the right and marked the location. Turned it all the way to the left counting the turns and marked that location. two and one half turns lock to lock. Turning the rack back one and one quarter turns and marking the location marks the center of the rack.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169792&d=1658503394

Now that the rack was centered I wanted to verify that the rack was centered in the chassis. I mounted a straightedge to the frame in the same location on each side.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169793&d=1658503394

I verified that the rack was straight and level and measured to the start of the threads. The measurement was the same on both sides verifying the rack was also centered in the chassis.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169794&d=1658503394

Set the overall measurement from tie rod to tie rod, based on the manual, keeping the same number of threads on each side.

The front spindles and hubs are next.

Jeff Kleiner

07-22-2022, 10:46 AM

You're doing good Scott!

Jeff

Namrups

07-22-2022, 11:32 AM

You're doing good Scott!

Jeff

Thanks Jeff. Moral support is always welcome.

Blitzboy54

07-22-2022, 01:57 PM

Namrups

07-22-2022, 03:59 PM

I did that kind of thing so many times

Good news is the second time you will really be great at it.

Simple screw up. I know I will probably make more. Hopefully nothing too costly.

Namrups

07-23-2022, 10:20 AM

Day 30

Ready to continue on the front end. Latest update on brakes is October so this will then go on the "to be completed" list.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169852&d=1658589391

Wishfull

07-24-2022, 07:07 AM

I love the red.

Namrups

07-24-2022, 07:09 AM

I love the red.

More to come .....

Namrups

07-24-2022, 11:23 AM

Before and after teaser

Rear spindles and hubs before prep.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169398&d=1657755875

And after.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169903&d=1658679461

PS front suspension almost complete.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=169904&d=1658679461

Sharp eyes will notice that the tie rod is not fastened. I have misplaced (lost!) the castle nut. Also noticeable is the hub nut is loose. I do not have a socket that big. Back to the store!

Namrups

07-25-2022, 08:10 PM

My neighbor stopped by on his way home from work today to check things out. Took advantage of it and between him, some ratchet straps and the engine hoist we installed the diff! It was challenging but not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Need to be nice to his wife the next time I see her.:rolleyes:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170022&d=1658797276
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170023&d=1658797276

Namrups

07-26-2022, 11:24 AM

Day 33

Now that the diff is in and torqued I wanted to lay out and prep the rest of the rear suspension.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170047&d=1658852400

Most everything is there except on the upper control arms. I'm missing the 1 1/4" lock nuts and the 4 1/2" mounting bolts that attach the UCA to the spindle. :mad: Also waiting on the CV axles.

Namrups

07-28-2022, 07:11 PM

Day 35

During the prep stage I tried to fit the pieces together and found that they wouldn't.

I measured the spindle at 45mm.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170190&d=1659052748

The bar measured 43mm.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170191&d=1659052748

Using the threaded rod process I spread the ears to 47mm.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170192&d=1659052748

When the threaded rod was removed the ears relaxed to the required 45mm and slid into place without force.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170196&d=1659052894

Mocked up the passengers side today. Look good. Tomorrow I will build the shocks and mock up the drivers side.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170193&d=1659052748

Namrups

07-28-2022, 07:13 PM

It looks more like a car every day.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170194&d=1659052748

Couldn't resist .... :p
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170195&d=1659052787

slarson

07-29-2022, 06:45 AM

Wow! Tremendous progress Scott, nice work!

Namrups

07-29-2022, 10:43 AM

Received my wheels today.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170245&d=1659107625

Namrups

07-31-2022, 08:36 AM

Day 38

Finished installing the rear suspension including the sway bar. Had issues with the sway bar that I will explain later. Still missing a few parts so it's not all torqued down yet.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170334&d=1659274341
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170335&d=1659274341

Next up is fuel and brake lines.

Namrups

07-31-2022, 09:06 AM

A BIG HEADS UP!!

I'm am not sure if this is a heads up for the roadster as well but if you are building the coupe with IRS and rear sway bar pay attention!!

What I did..... on page 134 of the manual is the installation of the Toe Adjustment Bar commonly referred to as the toe link. The manual states that "If using the sway bar option, pass the bolt through the frame mount bracket when installing the toe arms". The picture shows the bracket in place. I am using the sway bar so I dug out the brackets and installed them as shown. I was not planning on removing the toe link so I torqued it to spec. After I had completed installing the rest of the suspension I decided to also install the sway bars even though I was missing the rod ends for both front and rear. Those are out in the open and can be added later. The manual does not have the install instructions for the sway bars but I was able to find them on the FF site listed under the roadster section. After pulling everything out of the sway bar box I noticed that in the bag of hardware for the rear sway bar there were 5/8" bolts. When I installed the toe link I did notice that because of the added sway bar bracket the bolt looked a little short but not having read any issues about it nor seeing anything in the manual I accepted it as ok. Lesson learned. The new bolts are longer and allow the nut to seat as it should so they had to be replaced. As you can see, by the following 2 pics of the replaced bolt, there is very little room with the rest of the suspension installed! It was a bear getting the original bolts out and the new ones in and torqued. One to two clicks on the ratchet was the max.
Looking from the bottom
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170333&d=1659274341
Looking from the top
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170332&d=1659274341

WHEN ADDING A SWAY BAR TO IRS, MOUNT THE SWAY BAR BRACKET WITH THE NEW LONGER BOLTS WHEN INSTALLING THE TOE LINK! Don't do what I did....not fun.

edwardb

07-31-2022, 08:27 PM

A BIG HEADS UP!!

I'm am not sure if this is a heads up for the roadster as well but if you are building the coupe with IRS and rear sway bar pay attention!!

What I did..... on page 134 of the manual is the installation of the Toe Adjustment Bar commonly referred to as the toe link. The manual states that "If using the sway bar option, pass the bolt through the frame mount bracket when installing the toe arms". The picture shows the bracket in place. I am using the sway bar so I dug out the brackets and installed them as shown. I was not planning on removing the toe link so I torqued it to spec. After I had completed installing the rest of the suspension I decided to also install the sway bars even though I was missing the rod ends for both front and rear. Those are out in the open and can be added later. The manual does not have the install instructions for the sway bars but I was able to find them on the FF site listed under the roadster section. After pulling everything out of the sway bar box I noticed that in the bag of hardware for the rear sway bar there were 5/8" bolts. When I installed the toe link I did notice that because of the added sway bar bracket the bolt looked a little short but not having read any issues about it nor seeing anything in the manual I accepted it as ok. Lesson learned. The new bolts are longer and allow the nut to seat as it should so they had to be replaced. As you can see, by the following 2 pics of the replaced bolt, there is very little room with the rest of the suspension installed! It was a bear getting the original bolts out and the new ones in and torqued. One to two clicks on the ratchet was the max.

WHEN ADDING A SWAY BAR TO IRS, MOUNT THE SWAY BAR BRACKET WITH THE NEW LONGER BOLTS WHEN INSTALLING THE TOE LINK! Don't do what I did....not fun.

Good caution. Agree, easy to miss. The Factory Five instructions website (https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/instructions/) is a good source and should always be checked. Especially for options not typically shown in the build manual. I've frequently found what I needed there. Although to be fair, the IRS sway bar instructions you found on the website, in addition to showing the longer bolts on the exploded diagram, does say "Use the new included 5/8 ”x 2.50” bolt for the Toe link." Hate to point it out, and not being critical. We've all missed things. And paid frequently with extra work. Part of the experience, right? Your build is looking great. The red suspension is cool.

Namrups

07-31-2022, 10:25 PM

Good caution. Agree, easy to miss. The Factory Five instructions website (https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/instructions/) is a good source and should always be checked. Especially for options not typically shown in the build manual. I've frequently found what I needed there. Although to be fair, the IRS sway bar instructions you found on the website, in addition to showing the longer bolts on the exploded diagram, does say "Use the new included 5/8 ”x 2.50” bolt for the Toe link." Hate to point it out, and not being critical. We've all missed things. And paid frequently with extra work. Part of the experience, right? You're build is looking great. The red suspension is cool.

Thanks for the encouragement Paul. I really appreciate it. The red has come out even better than I had envisioned. Building these is like a chess match. You always need to be thinking moves ahead trying not to miss things like this. Even after reading your thread along with many others multiple times it's still easy for a first time builder, like myself, to miss stuff.

Namrups

07-31-2022, 10:38 PM

edwardb

08-01-2022, 05:43 AM

Played around with the brake and clutch reservoirs today.

Option 1
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170409&d=1659324905

Option 2
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170410&d=1659324905

I'm leaning towards option 2. If anyone sees any issues with either option or has an option 3 please speak up! :D

Even with your SBF 427 (as opposed to the Coyote in mine, where neither option would work) anything on the outside of that frame rail will probably need to be moved out of the way to get the engine in and out. Plus (maybe) kind of in the way for maintenance, e.g. headers, spark plugs, etc. You wouldn't regret having them all inside the two frame rails and out of the engine compartment. But probably not possible with those individual mounts. Hopefully other non-Coyote builders can provide some feedback.

rhk118

08-01-2022, 06:22 AM

WHEN ADDING A SWAY BAR TO IRS, MOUNT THE SWAY BAR BRACKET WITH THE NEW LONGER BOLTS WHEN INSTALLING THE TOE LINK! Don't do what I did....not fun.

Scott, thanks so much for this! Guaranteed though that when I get to that sway bar part I will STILL use the wrong bolts, despite reading this haha! I should just go find those boxes now and put the longer bolts where they belong to troubleshoot my future self.

Its coming together great, I really am enjoying your progress and have to agree with others am digging the red suspension bits!

Namrups

08-01-2022, 07:32 AM

Even with your SBF 427 (as opposed to the Coyote in mine, where neither option would work) anything on the outside of that frame rail will probably need to be moved out of the way to get the engine in and out. Plus (maybe) kind of in the way for maintenance, e.g. headers, spark plugs, etc. You wouldn't regret having them all inside the two frame rails and out of the engine compartment. But probably not possible with those individual mounts. Hopefully other non-Coyote builders can provide some feedback.

I have thought about that also. There are two immediate issues with option 1. First, all three will not fit there. Second, I I do not think I can get a drill in place to drill the mounting holes. As for option 2, I might be able to slide them more toward the front of the car to keep them out of the way. I would really prefer to use the factory supplied ones but I may have to go the route of others and use the plastic Tilton reservoir. Still undecided.

Namrups

08-01-2022, 09:19 AM

Reservoir solution

I think this idea will work. Based on Paul's post #207 in his coupe build, he is mounting his reservoir approximately 3 inches above the chassis tube. I can do the same and using an angle bracket locate all three reservoir's inside the opening. Anyone see any issues I'm missing?

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170414&d=1659363120
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170415&d=1659363526

rhk118

08-01-2022, 02:18 PM

Just how you're going to attach them Scott...if drilling down from the top they will crash into the sidewall of the frame. But I am thinking simplistically and I'm sure you already have an idea what you are going to do.

Namrups

08-01-2022, 06:23 PM

Piece of aluminum angle attached to the top of the square tube. Not pretty but doable. I should have it mocked up sometime tomorrow. Pics to follow.

slarson

08-01-2022, 09:19 PM

Scott, did you receive three reservoirs with your kit?
I have the hydraulic clutch option also and only got two reservoirs, one with the brake components and one with the clutch kit.

Namrups

08-02-2022, 07:26 AM

Scott, did you receive three reservoirs with your kit?
I have the hydraulic clutch option also and only got two reservoirs, one with the brake components and one with the clutch kit.

The kit only comes with two reservoirs. One for the clutch and one for the brakes. There is a "Y" fitting to split the brake feed from the reservoir to the two MC's. I wanted to have separate front and rear brake systems so I ordered a third reservoir as an extra option.

Namrups

08-02-2022, 02:53 PM

Reservoir mock-up

As promised here are the pics of my reservoir mock-up. It turned out better than I had envisioned. I think I am going to go with this idea. The aluminum angle piece will be painted black to match the chassis. Just need to decide if I am going to use rivnuts or thru bolts to mount the angle. Leaning toward rivnuts. Thoughts??
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170493&d=1659469661
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170490&d=1659469661
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170491&d=1659469661
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170492&d=1659469661

Namrups

08-02-2022, 03:26 PM

Mark Eaton

08-02-2022, 03:58 PM

edwardb

08-02-2022, 06:54 PM

Pedal box question

I am working on installing the pedal box. The manual states that the shafts on the MC's should be cut by 5/8". It doesn't say anything about the shaft on the clutch MC. After staring at if for way too long and discussing it with Jesse when he stopped by today, I believe it should not be cut. Anyone??

Don't cut anything until mocking them up. It's not hard to do. Then only cut what's needed. As I recall, they all need to be trimmed a bit. Especially if you put the clutch pedal even with the brake pedal. Which is my personal preference.

That bracket on your reservoirs is a nice solution. I agree rivnuts might look a little cleaner than the lock nuts. Especially if you put them on before painting. But it's all pretty busy underhood. So whatever you do won't stand out.

rhk118

08-02-2022, 07:37 PM

Pedal box question

I am working on installing the pedal box. The manual states that the shafts on the MC's should be cut by 5/8". It doesn't say anything about the shaft on the clutch MC. After staring at if for way too long and discussing it with Jesse when he stopped by today, I believe it should not be cut. Anyone??

Installed mine today Scott. Was thinking the same thing but when mocked up the clutch shaft is way too long. I cut 5/8 off of it and leveling the clutch with the brake pedal there was still excess thread, whereas the brake MC threads are flush with their connections. Of course I haven’t balanced the F/R bias yet, but seems it can be trimmed down safely.

I really like your bracket, very well done keeping the reservoirs level.

Namrups

08-03-2022, 08:44 PM

I decided to go with my reservoir mock-up. Went online to McMaster-Carr and ordered 1 pack (25 pcs) of 1/4"-28 Zinc plated rivnuts (#95105A122), 1 pack (25 pcs) of 1/4"-28 x 3/4" long 316 SS button head hex screws (#98164A522) and a wrench-drive rivnut installation tool for 1/4"-20 and 1/4"-28 threads(#96349A305). All arrived today.

I added a small amount of JBWeld to the rivnuts during installation.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170562&d=1659576798

Rivnuts installed and painted.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170563&d=1659576798

Support angle installed with the button head screws.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170564&d=1659576798

Reservoir clamps installed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170560&d=1659576798

Reservoirs installed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170561&d=1659576798

I like it.

Chopper

08-03-2022, 09:42 PM

Very professional! You hit the nail on the head.

rhk118

08-04-2022, 09:53 AM

Agreed. Looks great Scott. Question - what's the stuff around the riv-nuts for the removable panel over the drivers foot box? Thin foam tape?

Namrups

08-04-2022, 10:12 AM

Agreed. Looks great Scott. Question - what's the stuff around the riv-nuts for the removable panel over the drivers foot box? Thin foam tape?

That is 1" x 1/16" foam tape (sticky one side). It was included in the inventory but no one seems to know what it's for so I put it to good use. It fills the gap left by the rivnuts perfectly. Is it really needed, don't know but it does seal that area now.

Blitzboy54

08-04-2022, 02:32 PM

Reservoir setup turned out great. Very sharp

Namrups

08-04-2022, 05:29 PM

Reservoir setup turned out great. Very sharp

Thanks Jesse. I am very pleased with it.

Namrups

08-04-2022, 08:29 PM

Health update!

Had an appointment with my cancer doctor today. Good news! Good to go for another three months. Better news! Because I have done so well on the medication, my doctor has decided to try a lower dosage of the cancer meds! He believes a lower dosage will still keep the cancer at bay and reduce some of the side effects such as muscle and joint pain, hypertension and what I feel is most important the out of pocket cost! He wanted to see me after only three months just to make sure all is well. Praying this works.

Due to the fact it was over 100 degrees today I decided to put off working on the car and instead went in search of a supplier of sheet aluminum. I have ideas of parts and pieces I want to fab and didn't want to wait for online sales. I found a local business called Metal Supermarket that specializes in small orders. They had a cutoff rack that I found three pieces 20" x 22" and I ordered two specific cut pieces 23" x 7 1/2" all for $56.00. When I priced this online it was over $100.00! Great find.

rhk118

08-04-2022, 09:15 PM

Namrups

08-04-2022, 09:20 PM

Scott, fantastic news on your blood work. You are progressing along at a great rate. Reminded me as well I need to find a local supply of metal as well. But I’m still in the drilling of holes phase haha! Cockpit started today.

I wanted to install the gas tank but I also want to fab a drop trunk which has to go in before the tank so I had to find a place. Just glad this one was not that far away.

Namrups

08-05-2022, 01:31 PM

Managed to get the firewall filler piece cut, drilled and mocked in place before the heat got too bad. Did have to grind down and repaint a few welds on the chassis to get the piece to sit flat. On to the next item .... The drop trunk??

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170600&d=1659724119

Namrups

08-07-2022, 01:48 PM

Day 45 update

Busy couple of days. I'm at the stage where I should be installing the fuel tank. During my standing and thinking about what needs to be done I came to the conclusion that if I want to do the drop trunk mod it has to go in before the gas tank. I have the extra aluminum now and I bought the Harbor Freight 30" brake for just this type of fabrication so I decided on doing the drop trunk mod even though I have no metal working knowledge. I followed Paul's build and decided to make mine the same 16" x 23" x 5 1/2".

Using the brake to bend the side panels.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170709&d=1659897233

Pleased with the results.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170702&d=1659897151

All four sides drilled ready for the bottom piece.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170699&d=1659897151

Cut the rear deck to fit the drop box. This piece will be the base of the box.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170711&d=1659897233

The cut out piece fit perfect. Box sealed and riveted ready to install.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170701&d=1659897151

Namrups

08-07-2022, 01:53 PM

Trimmed the box for the chassis cross members, mocked it in place and started drilling.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170700&d=1659897151

Decided to finish fitting and drilling the rest of the rear panels.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170710&d=1659897233

Now that that is done I can go back to running my gas lines and installing the tank.

Namrups

08-07-2022, 02:01 PM

I'm using 3/8" SS gas lines for both the feed and return. Bought some clips from Jeggs that worked great. SS is defiantly challenging but it worked out and I think looks great. It is just held in place temporary with cable ties because I'm not sure if I am clear of the shifter and/or the transmission. Also not sure about the engine bay so I left that end long.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170704&d=1659897199
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170705&d=1659897199
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170706&d=1659897199
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170707&d=1659897199

rhk118

08-07-2022, 05:08 PM

Namrups

08-07-2022, 07:28 PM

Scott — looking great. Got all my cockpit and rear panels drilled over the past 2 days. Turns out 75 clecos don’t go very far on this car! I didn’t drill around the area where you put your storage box as was wondering what I’d do there myself. Seeing your post make me just want to bite the bullet and do it.

I assume you got the 30” harbor freight brake? What gauge/thickness aluminum sheeting did you use (turns out large box stores carry sheets of the stuff as well).
Finally what did you make your cuts with? Bandsaw? Jigsaw?

On the fuel lines - what spacers are those for the fuel line/return line? Those are pretty slick.

Looking great!

Hell, I have 200 Cleco's and could use more. Thanks for the encouraging words.

Yes, that is the 30" Harbor Freight brake. The key to using it is being able to clamp the top bar tight. As seen in my pic, I use 4 "c" clamps. Thicker material might require more clamps.

The aluminum is .040 thick. I do not know what grade it is. I picked it out of the cut-off rack at the local Metal Supermarket here in Albany. It formed easily so I'm guessing it was 5052. 6000 series is a little stiffer. I had checked out the big box stores and the thickest material they had was .020 which in my opinion is to thin. It may work just fine in this application as there is no real load placed on it. (The cut offs were cheaper sq ft wise)

I have used both a jig saw and a Dremel cut-off blade. I used a wood blade in the jig saw as the metal one clogs with aluminum to easy. Also try to cut slowly so that you don't build a lot of heat. Getting it to hot will actually melt the aluminum making the clogging worse. I used the Dremel cut-off blade for very thin cuts. The rear deck cutout is an example. I burned out my Dremel tool a couple of days ago so I just mount the cut-off shaft/blade in my drill. Works fine. Slow and easy. Don't force it.

On the fuel lines I used 3/8" ID Aluminum Line Separators pt# 555-830023 from Jeggs. A little pricey at $6.39 each. Budget, what budget?

Ron F

08-07-2022, 10:14 PM

Looking great! I love the red paint everywhere. Looks sharp!

rhk118

08-08-2022, 06:28 AM

Hell, I have 200 Cleco's and could use more. Budget, what budget?

Thanks Scott. Forget the budget on the cool or blingy things, I wonder what % of the build budget goes to drill bits and clecos :rolleyes: ...I broke or dulled about 6 drill bits this weekend, so will be ordering more with more Clecos from Aircraft Spruce today......waaay more than I budgeted for haha! Just noticed you also painted the shock spacers red. Love it man, the red really looks good. I'm just waiting on my axles so I can paint everything at one time then can start assembling the "car stuff". Engine is months away, brakes...no clue on timing on those, Wildwood apparently has quite the backlog, so panels and dash for now it is. The dash for me will take some time. Going to be doing things I've never done before, hopefully goes smoothly.

Namrups

08-08-2022, 06:54 AM

Looking great! I love the red paint everywhere. Looks sharp!

Thank you Sir!!

Namrups

08-08-2022, 07:02 AM

Thanks Scott. Forget the budget on the cool or blingy things, I wonder what % of the build budget goes to drill bits and clecos :rolleyes: ...I broke or dulled about 6 drill bits this weekend, so will be ordering more with more Clecos from Aircraft Spruce today......waaay more than I budgeted for haha! Just noticed you also painted the shock spacers red. Love it man, the red really looks good. I'm just waiting on my axles so I can paint everything at one time then can start assembling the "car stuff". Engine is months away, brakes...no clue on timing on those, Wildwood apparently has quite the backlog, so panels and dash for now it is. The dash for me will take some time. Going to be doing things I've never done before, hopefully goes smoothly.

I may be going way overboard with the "little" details like the shock spacers but that's what makes your car stand out from others. It also shows attention to detail that I think is important when it comes time for resale. That kind of attention to an item like that shows that the "important" items got the same attention to detail.

Blitzboy54

08-08-2022, 05:53 PM

Terrific medical news!

Drop drunk looks great! Any word on the power plant?

Namrups

08-08-2022, 09:16 PM

Terrific medical news!

Drop drunk looks great! Any word on the power plant?

I read in another post that Mike's dyno is out of service at the moment and he is backed up waiting for repair parts. I will give it a couple of days and give him a call. Thanks for your encouraging words! I really want to find out the details of the recent legislation capping prescription costs on Medicare to $2000.00. That would be hugh for me.

rhk118

08-10-2022, 08:27 AM

Day 45 update
I decided on doing the drop trunk mod even though I have no metal working knowledge. I followed Paul's build and decided to make mine the same 16" x 23" x 5 1/2".

Cut the rear deck to fit the drop box. This piece will be the base of the box.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170711&d=1659897233

Scott, sorry to spam your build thread but figure this information may be useful to others who may want to perform this mod. I will be doing this myself today (hopefully). Could you please share the rough measurements for where you cut the hole in that large rear panel? Assuming the opening is 23x16"...how many inches from the back of that panel and roughly how many inches from the drivers side edge of that panel (given its tapered). Looks like you made your cut up to the frame cross beam so that the bent over edge of the box rivets to that crossmember? Paul's appears that he was maybe 0.75 to 1 inch away from that cross member and riveted the box only to the panel and not the frame. Also did you use a cutting wheel on your dremel to make those cuts? They look really clean.

Thanks,
Hank

edwardb

08-10-2022, 09:39 AM

Scott, sorry to spam your build thread but figure this information may be useful to others who may want to perform this mod. I will be doing this myself today (hopefully). Could you please share the rough measurements for where you cut the hole in that large rear panel? Assuming the opening is 23x16"...how many inches from the back of that panel and roughly how many inches from the drivers side edge of that panel (given its tapered). Looks like you made your cut up to the frame cross beam so that the bent over edge of the box rivets to that crossmember? Paul's appears that he was maybe 0.75 to 1 inch away from that cross member and riveted the box only to the panel and not the frame. Also did you use a cutting wheel on your dremel to make those cuts? They look really clean.

Thanks,
Hank

To be honest, I don't remember if the box I fabricated and placed in my Coupe is riveted into the cross member cited. It is riveted to the diagonal cross members. Can see that in my pictures. Whatever I did, in actual use for three seasons strength has never been an issue. It's fine. Haven't put any sand or bricks in there though. :rolleyes:

One comment about placement. I did a split cover on mine (also detailed in my build thread) and placed the box where the door could be opened without running into anything, e.g. the rear hatch opening, etc. Something to consider IMO if you're planning a cover.

Namrups

08-10-2022, 04:18 PM

Scott, sorry to spam your build thread but figure this information may be useful to others who may want to perform this mod. I will be doing this myself today (hopefully). Could you please share the rough measurements for where you cut the hole in that large rear panel? Assuming the opening is 23x16"...how many inches from the back of that panel and roughly how many inches from the drivers side edge of that panel (given its tapered). Looks like you made your cut up to the frame cross beam so that the bent over edge of the box rivets to that crossmember? Paul's appears that he was maybe 0.75 to 1 inch away from that cross member and riveted the box only to the panel and not the frame. Also did you use a cutting wheel on your dremel to make those cuts? They look really clean.

Thanks,
Hank

Sorry it took so long to respond to this question Hank. Was in the garage all day. Yes on both counts. I did attach to the crossmember and I did use the dremel cutting wheel to make the cuts.

For measurements: it's 6" from the cutout for the fuel hanger.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170860&d=1660165838

and 2 7/8" from the very back edge.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170859&d=1660165838

For anyone who has used a dremel cutoff wheel you know how brittle they are. I did not use a dremel tool. I used my drill. I found it was easier to control. Work slowly and cut from left to right. It will grab less. I did go thru 4 wheels for this cut.

Namrups

08-10-2022, 04:22 PM

Namrups

08-10-2022, 04:29 PM

Steering rack bolts heads-up

This may have been noted in other builds. I don't recall seeing it. I was watching another coupe build on utube yesterday and it was noted that the manual shows the 4 1/2" steering rack bolts being put in from the front with the nuts on the back side. I put mine in this way without a second thought. The issue is when the aluminum piece is mounted to the front of the car there is not 4 1/2" of space left if you have to remove the rack. You would have to also remove the radiator and the rest of the front aluminum to get them out. First thing I did this morning was to reverse those bolts.

Namrups

08-10-2022, 04:32 PM

rhk118

08-10-2022, 08:47 PM

To be honest, I don't remember if the box I fabricated and placed in my Coupe is riveted into the cross member cited. It is riveted to the diagonal cross members. Can see that in my pictures. Whatever I did, in actual use for three seasons strength has never been an issue. It's fine. Haven't put any sand or bricks in there though. :rolleyes:

One comment about placement. I did a split cover on mine (also detailed in my build thread) and placed the box where the door could be opened without running into anything, e.g. the rear hatch opening, etc. Something to consider IMO if you're planning a cover.

No worries on timing of reply Scott...My mother, who has never ordered anything online (not even Amazon) because of fear of identity theft willfully gave all her personal information to a text from a bank that isn't her bank today, so spent most of the afternoon helping her prevent her upcoming/about to happen identity theft with her bank, credit unions, and social security...fun...

In any event thanks for the measurements guys. Paul I was totally making an assumption based on your pictures about the horizontal cross member but see the diagonal attachments (and you know what happens when I think...just ask the boss :rolleyes:)...My aluminum wasn't ready for pickup today so hopefully will get to this tomorrow, I did get a piece of .063 for the lid, and hinges on order. I appreciate everyone's help in this, and as they say in surgery "if you ain't wreckin' you ain't racin'"...well, I'd rather not be wreckin'...and glad you're all here!

rhk118

08-10-2022, 09:02 PM

Christmas in August!

Received 5 boxes from FF this morning! Still a couple of major items like the CV axles, headers and the rear glass still outstanding but the rest is small items like nuts and bolts. The list is getting smaller.

I am enjoying the parts arriving from time to time, have to admit. If you were doing a 302 I'd send you my headers as my engine is a ways off. Axles are the big thing for me as I really don't want to put any suspension together until I receive them.

Namrups

08-10-2022, 09:10 PM

I am enjoying the parts arriving from time to time, have to admit. If you were doing a 302 I'd send you my headers as my engine is a ways off. Axles are the big thing for me as I really don't want to put any suspension together until I receive them.

I've mocked up the rear suspension just finger tight. At least that way I can run the fuel and brake lines knowing what goes where. When the axles do arrive I can tighten everything up and call it complete.

Namrups

08-12-2022, 07:46 PM

Steering shaft installed today.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170961&d=1660351439
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170960&d=1660351439

I can now work on the Russ Thompson directional and the NRG removable wheel adapter.

Namrups

08-13-2022, 05:19 PM

NRG Removable Steering Wheel

This update will be a little long. I know that this has been covered to various degrees in other threads. Here is my version:

Note: I am using the Russ Thompson turn signal mod so I had sent the steering boss to him and he did his thing and returned it to me. That is my starting point with this update.

There are two additional items that I am using to help me with this mod. The first is the alignment disks that I 3D printed and the second is a transfer punch set that I had for woodworking.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171025&d=1660427681
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171024&d=1660427681

The first step is to attach the part of the NRG unit, that is mounted on the steering shaft, to the steering boss returned by Russ. The screws that Russ provides to attach the steering wheel can be reused but the holes in the steering boss need to be counter sunk so that the screws fit flush. Use an 82 degree countersink.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171032&d=1660427747

The screws are to long and need to be cut off to be flush.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171033&d=1660427747

I am not using the center horn button on the steering wheel so the horn hookup needs to be removed from the NRG unit. Two small screws hold it in place.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171026&d=1660427681

To be continued

Namrups

08-13-2022, 05:27 PM

Removable steering part 2

The NRG piece needs to sit flush on the steering boss so the area marked by the arrow needs to be removed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171028&d=1660427681

This can be accomplished a number of ways. I chose to remove the piece from the NRG base. It is held in by 2 screws.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171027&d=1660427681

Beware of the spring!!! There is a small spring under this pin.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171029&d=1660427747

Slowly tilt the piece away from the pin until the pressure is off the spring and the piece can be removed.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171030&d=1660427747

After removing the piece cut off that back so that it is flush.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171031&d=1660427747

To be continued

Namrups

08-13-2022, 05:42 PM

Removable steering part 3

Reverse the above steps to put the unit back together. Use the smaller of the two alignment pieces to line up the NRG unit to the steering boss. This will keep the NRG unit centered on the boss. This is where I used the punch to center punch the new holes that need to be drilled.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171038&d=1660427830

The NRG unit supplies M5-.80 cap screws to attach it to the boss. I used a 4.2mm drill and a 5.0-.80 tap.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171037&d=1660427830

That part of the NRG unit can now be attached to the steering boss.

The part of the NRG unit that attaches to the steering wheel also needs the horn button to be removed the same as the other piece.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171034&d=1660427830

It also has to be trimmed to fit flush on the steering boss.
Before
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171035&d=1660427830
After
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171036&d=1660427830

To be continued

Namrups

08-13-2022, 05:51 PM

Removable steering part 4

There is an inner ring that needs to be removed to use the alignment piece. Not sure what it is for or if it's needed for this application.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171040&d=1660427875

Insert the alignment piece into the NRG piece and then into the steering wheel.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171041&d=1660427875
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171042&d=1660427875
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171043&d=1660427875

Once the new holes are drilled in the steering wheel they have to be counter sunk to accept the 5.0-.80 screws (Not supplied by NRG - need to be bought separately). Use a 100 degree counter sink for metric screws.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171044&d=1660427910

To be continued

Namrups

08-13-2022, 05:53 PM

Removable steering wheel 5

The NRG piece can now be attached to the steering wheel. This mod is now complete.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171045&d=1660427910

Blitzboy54

08-15-2022, 01:22 PM

Have you fitted the cover over it yet? Curious what it looks like.

Namrups

08-15-2022, 04:49 PM

Have you fitted the cover over it yet? Curious what it looks like.

Looks good:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171155&d=1660600102

Blitzboy54

08-16-2022, 11:16 AM

Outstanding!

Namrups

08-16-2022, 12:32 PM

Jeff Kleiner

08-16-2022, 12:46 PM

Quick update

Just got off the phone with Mike Forte. My engine was just dyno'ed and will be crated up ready for pickup in the next few days. Boss 427 crate based on 351 block bored out to 460 cu in. 501.7 hp and 580.7 lbs ft of torque.

I guess you’re following that “Go big or go home” philosophy of car building. What tires are you planning to use to try to hook that up (note that “try” is the key word in this sentence)?

Jeff

Namrups

08-16-2022, 02:39 PM

I guess you’re following that “Go big or go home” philosophy of car building. What tires are you planning to use to try to hook that up (note that “try” is the key word in this sentence)?

Jeff

BF Goodrich G-Force Rival S if I can find them. 275/35 R18 front and 315/30 R18 rear.

Namrups

08-16-2022, 02:40 PM

Forte just sent me the dyno video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHzjuGnoUgw

Jeff Kleiner

08-16-2022, 03:47 PM

BF Goodrich G-Force Rival S if I can find them. 275/35 R18 front and 315/30 R18 rear.

You might also consider Falken RT660s. They have kind of pushed the Rival S and the later Rival S 1.5 off of the top of the hill in the super 200 treadwear wars.

Jeff

Namrups

08-16-2022, 05:55 PM

You might also consider Falken RT660s. They have kind of pushed the Rival S and the later Rival S 1.5 off of the top of the hill in the super 200 treadwear wars.

Jeff

Thanks for the info Jeff. I'll look into them.

Namrups

08-16-2022, 06:12 PM

Another screwup!

Worked on my 3/16" SS brake lines today and screwed up again. Wanted to install the piece that goes from the DS front brake to the PS front brake. Pulled out my Eastwood flaring tool and tried my luck. The first couple were complete failures. After talking with Paul I used a few pointers that he suggested and was able to make good flares. (I hope) Spent a couple of hours bending the tubing and after getting it to fit I flared it.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171198&d=1660690897

And then realized that I never put the fittings on! :mad:

Started from scratch and managed to make the second one right. Found the aluminum P-clamps at Racetronix at a very reasonable price. Part number for the 3/16" ones is PLC-03 and for the 3/8" ones PLC-06. Drilled and tapped the frame for these. I think they look good.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171199&d=1660690897
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171200&d=1660690897
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171201&d=1660690897

edwardb

08-16-2022, 10:28 PM

And then realized that I never put the fittings on! :mad:

Yeah, none of us have ever done that. :p

Namrups

08-16-2022, 11:28 PM

Yeah, none of us have ever done that. :p

I'm in good company then!! :rolleyes:

Namrups

08-24-2022, 04:09 PM

Spending the week with my daughter before she has to go back to school. Did take the time to pick up my engine/transmission from Mike Forte!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171451&d=1661375239
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171450&d=1661375239
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171449&d=1661375239

GT_Rich

08-24-2022, 04:29 PM

What intake is that? What are your plans to get the needed hood clearance with a 9.5" deck engine?

Joel Hauser

08-24-2022, 04:50 PM

Whoa, Scott, that's a lot of motor! Looks great. Did they put it on the dyno? Let me know if you need to borrow my engine hoist, or if you need some extra muscle.

Namrups

08-24-2022, 05:49 PM

Whoa, Scott, that's a lot of motor! Looks great. Did they put it on the dyno? Let me know if you need to borrow my engine hoist, or if you need some extra muscle.

Dyno results: 501.7 hp 580.7 ft lbs torque

Is your hoist a 2 ton hoist? I have a 1 ton here and it isn't going to cut it. Both Dan and Pat have hoists also that I can borrow.

Namrups

08-24-2022, 05:51 PM

What intake is that? What are your plans to get the needed hood clearance with a 9.5" deck engine?

Mike Forte says it will clear. If not I may need to do a little body work or get a different air cleaner.

rhk118

08-24-2022, 09:00 PM

Drool Scott! Awesome man. If you run into fitment issues Levy Racing has shorter engine mounts that may help. Problem then would be headers, but I believe Georgie from GAS-N (and/or Mike Forte) have the measurements and can make a set for the lower mounts. I ordered a set of the lowered mounts "just in case" for my build from Levy Racing over 5 months ago and they are still backordered for an idea of timing...that engine will be in your car sooner than that! ;)

Joel Hauser

08-25-2022, 07:07 AM

I have the 1 ton Harbor Freight folding shop crane and their cheap leveler. I installed the engine and transmission together. My engine is the iron block 4.6L SOHC. I think I'm using a T-45 transmission. I don't know the combined weight, but the shop crane worked well for me. Jesse used it too.
Joel

Namrups

08-25-2022, 08:08 AM

Namrups

08-25-2022, 08:09 AM

edwardb

08-25-2022, 10:12 AM

Namrups

08-25-2022, 10:53 AM

The issue other builders have reported with the 1-ton shop crane is it has to be fully extended. Which may not be quite enough in some cases. Plus I've seen pictures of guys having to stand on the back of it to keep it from tipping forward when extended that far. Obviously that will vary depending on the engine/trans combination and weight. If the 1-ton is the only option, make sure to have enough help and be careful. I saw these reports back in the day and held out for the 2-ton H-F model. Has served me well and appreciate the extra margin it provides.

I appreciate your insight. When using it to take the engine off the truck we had it fully extended in the "1/4" hole (500 lbs max) so my guess is we were over the design limits and we had to shimmy the engine it all the way to the back of the truck because it didn't reach the lift plate. I will plan on borrowing (buying if I must) a 2 ton just to be on the safe side.

Namrups

08-25-2022, 10:54 AM

What intake is that? What are your plans to get the needed hood clearance with a 9.5" deck engine?

The intake is a Weiand 8023 Ford Stealth.

GT_Rich

08-25-2022, 11:49 AM

The intake is a Weiand 8023 Ford Stealth.

According to Summit Racing's specs, that is 1/4" shorter than the Performer RPM I am trying to use. Levy told me that I would need drop mounts and a drop base to clear. I bought drop mounts and picked up a round air cleaner with a drop base and open top. Still waiting on my chassis to drop it in.

Namrups

08-25-2022, 12:20 PM

According to the manual, this is the transmission mount for a TKO transmission. I have a TKX and the holes do not line up.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171476&d=1661447883

I have sent an e-mail to FF but I know they are down for the week. Does anyone here know if there is a different mounting plate for the TKX or do I have to drills my own holes in this one and try to make it work?

Blitzboy54

08-29-2022, 10:42 AM

I appreciate your insight. When using it to take the engine off the truck we had it fully extended in the "1/4" hole (500 lbs max) so my guess is we were over the design limits and we had to shimmy the engine it all the way to the back of the truck because it didn't reach the lift plate. I will plan on borrowing (buying if I must) a 2 ton just to be on the safe side.

Let me know when you want to drop it in. I am available. My schedule free's up generally after Labor Day so I'll be popping over

Indy Shu

08-29-2022, 10:53 AM

Per the manual the left side of the mount in your pic is the front. How far off is it? I found that there is some play in the plate so leave the bolts loose until you have the transmission bolts in.
hth.

Namrups

08-29-2022, 11:18 AM

Let me know when you want to drop it in. I am available. My schedule free's up generally after Labor Day so I'll be popping over

I have my daughter thru labor day so not to much building going on. Still trying to put an hour or two in the morning before she rolls out of bed. Now that I have the CV's I will be looking at getting the brakes bled after labor day. Your help would be appreciated. Just send me a text when your schedule allows it. I'm not going anywhere.:D

Namrups

08-29-2022, 11:20 AM

Namrups

08-30-2022, 03:47 PM

Day 68

Was on a staycation with my daughter all last week and she is joining me again tomorrow thru Labor Day so I have not worked on the coupe as much as I would have liked. Having said that I did try to get a little done in the mornings before she rolled out of bed. Tom, a friend from work came by today and we were able to take a bite out of things.

Completed the installation of the brake lines.

Front:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171764&d=1661891666
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171765&d=1661891666
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171768&d=1661891666

Rear:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171767&d=1661891666
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171769&d=1661891710

Namrups

08-30-2022, 03:55 PM

Rear cont:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171770&d=1661891710

We were also able to get the fuel lines clipped in place:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171782&d=1661891928
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171783&d=1661891928

We then took on the e-brake. Ran into two issues here. One of these I have seen in other threads one I have not. The first issue which I have not seen is with the IRS brakes and the DA Koni shocks. There is a 5/8" bolt that is needed to bolt a bracket to the e-brake.

A 3/4" bolt is too short. Not enough threads for the nut to lock on properly.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171779&d=1661891928

A 1" bolt is too long. The nut would hit the spring.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171773&d=1661891710

Namrups

08-30-2022, 04:05 PM

The problem as I see it is the "Z" shaped piece that may be need in a different application but not in this one. My solution will be to cut the leg of the "Z" piece off and then I can use the 3/4" bolt with enough threads for the nut to lock and not hit the spring.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171780&d=1661891928

Will post additional picks when completed.

The next issue that I ran into I have read about in other posts. The cables a just a tad short.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171781&d=1661891928

I have worked out a possible solution and will explain and post when it's complete.

My CV axles arrived a couple of days ago. They have been painted and installed!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171771&d=1661891710

Once I complete hooking up the e-brake the front and rear will be complete. Have to make a decision on panel finish so that I can start to install some of them for the last time. Then on to engine and transmission mockup. No first start until I get headers. No roller until I get tires.

JMo

08-30-2022, 05:02 PM

Scott I'm admiring your Wilwood brakes. Did you order those with your kit or source them elsewhere? Still waiting for mine...

John

Namrups

08-30-2022, 05:34 PM

Scott I'm admiring your Wilwood brakes. Did you order those with your kit or source them elsewhere? Still waiting for mine...

John

They were the 12.88" front and IRS rear drilled and slotted upgrade with the complete kit. Pictures don't do them justice. They do force you to use a 17" or 18" wheel.

Namrups

08-31-2022, 03:23 PM

E-brake solutions

Here's my solution to the issue of attaching the e-brake cable to the e-brake. After eliminating the leg of the "z" clip the 3/4" bolt could be used. I also ground down the cable itself about 2mm for a better fit.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171840&d=1661976932

I added two ~ 1" steel links to the ends of the cables to make up for them being a little short in reaching the e-brake handle. E-brake works fine. Was able to hold the hub from turning while I torqued the hub nut.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171839&d=1661976932

The rest of the routing zip tied in place. E-brake complete.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171838&d=1661976932

GT_Rich

08-31-2022, 04:47 PM

Any word on header ETA? I'll be waiting on a set very shortly.

Namrups

08-31-2022, 06:47 PM

Any word on header ETA? I'll be waiting on a set very shortly.

Nothing yet.

Namrups

09-02-2022, 04:44 PM

My daughter and I spent some time on the build today. She installed the battery box and battery.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171918&d=1662154843
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171919&d=1662154843

We also mocked up the fuel tank again so that I could get a measurement for the braded fuel lines. Work on those tomorrow.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171920&d=1662154843
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171921&d=1662154843

Namrups

09-07-2022, 04:00 PM

Staycation's over ... back to work!

I purchased Teflon Lined Braided Stainless Hose and fittings from Breeze to go from the fuel hanger to the SS fuel lines. I have never worked with these fittings or lines before. In with the fittings was a "installation sheet". I wanted to document this on the thread not only for others but also for me if I should loose this instruction sheet.

The sheet offers 4 different methods for cutting the SS hose. Method 4 (which Breeze uses) uses a HD hardened jaw cable cutter. I just so happened to have one that I used in the wiring of the garage! (Damn, a tool I didn't have to buy!:p
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172183&d=1662583594

Using this cutter will pinch the hose end into a football shape.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172182&d=1662583594
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172176&d=1662583554

Inserting a tapered punch will into the Teflon hose will round it out again.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172185&d=1662583608
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172184&d=1662583594

Namrups

09-07-2022, 04:16 PM

The fitting has three parts (from top to bottom) the tube nut, the ferrule and the fitting body.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172180&d=1662583594

Apply a small amount of grease to the threads and slide the tube nut over the hose "funnel" end first. I used a qtip to apply the grease.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172181&d=1662583594

The ferrule then gets slid over the Teflon tube and under the SS braid. There are internal barbs inside the ferrule that grab the Teflon tube. There is also an internal step that will only allow the ferrule to be pushed in so far. It can only go on one way. make sure the Teflon tube inserts all of the way into the ferrule until it is stopped by the internal step. I tried to get a picture of this but it wasn't meant to be.: mad:

The fitting body now gets inserted into the hose end until it meats the ferrule.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172175&d=1662583554

A small amount of grease is applied to the male threads on the fitting body and the tube nut is tightened to the fitting body until it is within 1/16" of the fitting body.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172177&d=1662583554

This is my finished mockup of the feed and return lines.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172178&d=1662583554

Namrups

09-07-2022, 04:28 PM

I didn't want to upset my daughter by telling her that we forgot to apply thread locker to the fasteners holding the battery box in place. She went back with her mother yesterday so today it was removed and reinstalled with blue thread locker. All of the brake lines were also rechecked for tightness. The special spacer was installed on the diff using orange thread locker and torqued by feel as I don't have the right fitting to use my torque wrench.

I finished and installed my first aluminum panel today!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172179&d=1662583554

If you look close you can see the driveshaft and the safety hoop in the background. I want to get the safety hoop mocked up before I start installing the tunnel panels permanently.

Namrups

09-08-2022, 03:54 PM

Day 77

Worked on the safety hoop again today. This is a generic hoop and the base is too wide for the trans tunnel.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172249&d=1662670069

Because the diff is offset to the PS the legs of the base needed to be cut at different lengths.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172247&d=1662670054

The location looks good but my issue now is getting in to drill the holes in the chassis. I ordered short bits from McMaster-Carr and will have to purchase an angle drill as the ones I have don't fit.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172248&d=1662670054

Namrups

09-08-2022, 03:57 PM

I also started to coat some of my panels with Raptor bed coating.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172245&d=1662670054
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172246&d=1662670054

Decided to also coat the fuel tank. Probably over kill but why not?
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172244&d=1662670054

Namrups

09-11-2022, 12:41 PM

Day 80

Worked on applying bed liner on some more panels so that I can fasten some for the last time!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172307&d=1662917885
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Also completed the plumbing on the brake and clutch lines. Should be all set to bleed the brakes now.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172310&d=1662917885

Namrups

09-12-2022, 05:38 PM

Worked on a couple of the PS footbox panels I want to install permanently before I drop the engine in. Inside the footbox I am applying a layer of Dynamat sound deadener covered by a layer of Dynaliner for the heat. It will all be covered with carpet in the end. The exterior is sanded with 220 grit sandpaper using a random orbital sander followed by a coating of Shark Hide.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172375&d=1663021644
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Namrups

09-14-2022, 02:02 PM

Coupe builders heads up!!

I ran into a small issue today. I was mocking up the installation of the dash and the end filler pieces. I am riveting the end pieces to the back metal cross member. My plan was to use 2 - 3/16" rivets. It worked fine on the PS. The sun was shining so the DS was in shade while I was drilling the first hole. I had just started to drill the second hole when the sun went behind a cloud and I noticed that the tab that I was drilling thru was actually covering the stamped serial number on the cross member!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172476&d=1663181814

I drilled out the rivet already installed and removed the metal filler piece. As shown the drill had already scared the serial #. By looking closely you can see that the only possible number it could be is a 3 so I hope this doesn't give me problems trying to register this car.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172478&d=1663181814

I cut the mounting tab back so that the serial number could be seen and can only use 1 pop rivet to secure it. I might be able to squeeze a second rivet in.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172477&d=1663181814

Blitzboy54

09-15-2022, 11:08 AM

Coupe builders heads up!!

I drilled out the rivet already installed and removed the metal filler piece. As shown the drill had already scared the serial #. By looking closely you can see that the only possible number it could be is a 3 so I hope this doesn't give me problems trying to register this car.

Unfortunately Scott, it might. I know that's not what you want to hear but I would reach out to the inspection dept and see if you can get in front of it. I am not saying it will definitely or even likely be a problem but you don't want to finish the car and find out it's an issue. Better to get in front of it first.

I know how stressful that part can be. Call the Technical Dept and ask for advice. I would consider sending pictures of the damaged frame and a picture of the Certificate of Origin to Division of Field Investigations as well depending on what the Technical Dept says.

Like I said you are probably fine but if your not better to know now.

Namrups

09-20-2022, 04:52 PM

Blitzboy54 stopped by over the weekend and we bleed the brakes. Thanks Jesse for the help and for bringing your pressure bleeding unit.

Working to get to a point where I can drop the engine in. To do so I need to have some of the engine bay electrical completed. Laid out the positive and negative battery cables. Using 2 ga cable to go from the battery to the master cut off switch. Then from the switched side to the starter with 4 ga. Also from the switched side to a 150 amp breaker to a positive bus bar in the dash with 8 ga cable. Also laid out the negative to the frame with 2 ga.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172822&d=1663709674

Also laid out the rear harness. Shortened the fuel pump and the sender wires for a better fit. This harness will enter the cockpit thru the DS side panel. The rear brake line and the hydraulic clutch line also use this same location.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172819&d=1663709674
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172820&d=1663709674

Thinking about laying out the dash I decided to follow EdwardB's lead and made up a filler piece between the dash and the front transmission tunnel cover. Now to figure out how to lay out all the switches and buttons.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172821&d=1663709674

Namrups

10-01-2022, 08:59 AM

100 days!

This is going to be a rather lengthy update. It's been 100 days since the Coupe was delivered. The weather is cooling off and the dreaded white stuff will be flying around soon. One of my personal goals was to have the engine installed by the time the snow flies. I have the engine but in order to install it I wanted to get some items in the engine bay completed. The PS footbox panels are attached from the engine bay side so I insulated the interior surface and finished the exterior with Shark Hid and got those installed. The battery has been installed. The next item on my list was engine bay electrical. The positive and negative battery cables.

The negative was easy. Made up a short piece of cable and routed it to the chassis.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173232&d=1664630772

The positive cable took a little thought. My final decision was to run from the battery to my main cutoff switch. Then from the switched side to the starter. Now ... where to put the cutoff switch?? As I showed in a previous post I added a filler panel under the dash between the dash and the front transmission tunnel cover. The upper unseen part of the cover will be used to mount electrical components leaving needed space behind the dash for air conditioning/heater ducts. The lower portion of the cover is where I decided to mount the main cutoff switch along with my battery charge port, USB charge port and the PS/DS seat heater buttons.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173231&d=1664630772

This idea created another issue for me. All of the electrical connections behind the filler piece will be above the cover plate. The items below the filler plate will have all of the electrical connections below the cover plate. I will not be making the tunnel cover plate removable as the dash will be removable making access to the upper components easy. :rolleyes: My solution to this issue was to make the tunnel cover two pieces. This will allow me to remove the lower piece without touching the upper piece. Because of having no room between aluminum and the angled chassis member I chose to rivet this piece in place when the time comes and if I have to remove it at some point I will have to drill the rivets out.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173230&d=1664630772

So having made the decision on where to put the main cutoff I made up and installed the positive cable from the battery to the cutoff switch.

From the battery across the front cross member.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173234&d=1664630772

Up the PS chassis.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173235&d=1664630794

Namrups

10-01-2022, 09:21 AM

To the main cutoff switch. From the switched side I ran a cable back to the starter. I do not have an always on circuit using this arrangement. My battery charger, the Sniper EFI and my Digital Guard Dog will have to be wired directly to the battery bypassing the cutoff switch. The reason I am wiring the DGD to the battery is it also controls my door poppers and will need constant power. With the started on the switched side of the cutoff the car will not start.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173233&d=1664630772

I ran the wires for my battery charger down the DS of the chassis and if you go back to the battery picture you can see they are attached. The clutch safety switch has a wire from the RF harness that gets attached to the starter also. This meant that I had to pull the harness out and get that process started. :p I'm not scared of the wiring but pulling that harness out of the box was a little scary. I found out that the wire that goes from the clutch switch to the starter was too short. I had to add about 6 inches of wire to it.

Next up was the horns. I didn't like the location or the mounting method the manual showed so off the reservation we go again. I bent the brackets and mounted in what I hope is an out of the way location that I feel is more secure.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173214&d=1664630550
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Namrups

10-01-2022, 09:29 AM

More corrections to the RF harness.... I understand that the RF harness is generic. Knowing this I am not criticizing it, just pointing out where I had issues and what I did to correct.

I laid out the front harness and noted a few things. First was the fact that the location that was generic for the horn wires to split out and for the DS to split from the PS was way off. This made the DS too short and the horn wires come in at a weird angle.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173208&d=1664630502

I pulled that section out the harness apart and corrected the location of the split and where the horn wires break out. Fits a lot better now.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173209&d=1664630502
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