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EBarnes
11-02-2011, 09:17 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any pictures of how they routed the front harness (Ron Francis optional harness). The instructions are for the roadster.

Rear would be useful also, but it's ok for now just hanging out.

Thanks in advance!

Fluge
11-03-2011, 05:24 AM
BINGO!!

I can use this info too.

John Dol
11-03-2011, 05:41 PM
Make sure you get all your radiator paneling in place and know where your brake lines are going. I routed mine out of the foot box in a different spot because I'm putting on power brakes. From there you go along the 1" square tube to the x member. It seems you have to split either on the front or rear of it. I have not installed the radiator panels yet but I'm not permanantly installing the front of the harness until I do.

John

rj35pj
11-05-2011, 07:06 AM
I don't have any pictures of the front harness, but here is something else to think about. If you are using the Ron Francis harness and you are using the running lights supplied by FFR you need a power wire (in the FFR running lights box) from the dash out to the running lights. I confirmed this with FFR. I plan to open up the front harness and run the wire in with all the others. No big deal but the harness is so neatly taped up that I wanted to duplicate the look. The electical tape I had on hand was too thick and didn't look good. I called Ron Francis and the tape they use is called 3M 1700 Temflex electrical tape. I bought two rolls on Amazon. Just thought you might want to know.

Bob

EBarnes
11-05-2011, 09:11 AM
Good info Bob and John. I've run my brake lines (manual), and routed the harness out the side of the 1x1 in the front foot box slot... for now. I will leave it there more than likely, just need to put a gromet there so it doesn't fray.

I'll run the power line though, first thing. I'd hate to find out things like that after it's all set. No real big deal, just more work (that I can now avoid!).

I was kind of wanting to see how others routed it where the 1x1 meets the "X" cross member, and then out on both sides from there. I doubt it will be difficult, but I like to see things in advance and plan, just in case. I don't have an engine quite yet, but was wondering about the radiator and panels.

Eric

John Dol
11-05-2011, 09:24 AM
Bob,

Good call, I was wondering about that because there were no wires for the running lights. Is this a wire that runs from the center console switch?

Thanks,

John

CHAZC5ZX
11-05-2011, 11:06 AM
I ran my running lights through A relay to take the load off the switch. I ran A 14 ga wire through the harness to the front and the wires for the fan controler then mounted the harness to the top of the 1X1 tube then up and behind the upper control armunder the 1X1 tube to the rediatorwhere the harness splits one side to the left light's the other to the inside of the front aluminum rad duct mounted the horns there than ran the harnesson top of the A/C condenser to the other side.
this forum wont upload my pic's if you want I can leave them on the other forum
Chaz...

rj35pj
11-05-2011, 08:21 PM
Bob,

Good call, I was wondering about that because there were no wires for the running lights. Is this a wire that runs from the center console switch?

Thanks,

John

John,
Yes, to the switch, although CHAZC5ZX has a good idea of using a relay. Dumb question but how do you wire in a relay..... I was planning on using the radio power wire for my running lights. The running light kit comes with a 15 amp in line fuse and the radio is also 15 amp in the panel.

CHAZC5ZX
11-05-2011, 11:29 PM
Ok guy's relays can make thing's realy trick and easy. on A standard cheap 4 wire relay there is usualy A picture on the side it will have A rectangle with a diagional bar through it thats the coil witch turns the relay on and off the numbers in that picture are next to the pins on the business end of the relay the other two pins are the load ( what you want to power). For the load run A wire from hot to the relay and from the relay to say the running lights, now for the coil you can either energize it with hot by running one wire from the coil side to ground and the other hot from your toggle switch or by ground by running A hot say from the acc side of your ingition switch and grounding with your toggle switch. the relay dosen't pull 1/2 amp to energize but will carry 30 amps to what you are running.
Chaz....

rj35pj
11-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Ok guy's relays can make thing's realy trick and easy. on A standard cheap 4 wire relay there is usualy A picture on the side it will have A rectangle with a diagional bar through it thats the coil witch turns the relay on and off the numbers in that picture are next to the pins on the business end of the relay the other two pins are the load ( what you want to power). For the load run A wire from hot to the relay and from the relay to say the running lights, now for the coil you can either energize it with hot by running one wire from the coil side to ground and the other hot from your toggle switch or by ground by running A hot say from the acc side of your ingition switch and grounding with your toggle switch. the relay dosen't pull 1/2 amp to energize but will carry 30 amps to what you are running.
Chaz....

Okay, so my harness actually has a radio hot wire that works with the key and a memeory wire that would be hot all the time, so I route my memeory wire (always hot) to the relay and out of the relay to the lights. The keyed radio wire (ignition side) to the switch and the forth relay terminal is ground. If this is correct then I've got it. :) Thanks.

CHAZC5ZX
11-06-2011, 08:18 PM
Close.. memory wire to load side of relay and from relay to lights. Radio wire to switch and other side of switch to coil of relay the other side of relay coil to ground.
Chaz...

rj35pj
11-07-2011, 04:10 PM
Close.. memory wire to load side of relay and from relay to lights. Radio wire to switch and other side of switch to coil of relay the other side of relay coil to ground.
Chaz...

Okay, clear as mud. Just kidding. Thank you for a class in relay 101. :) It makes sense the switch sees minimum amps while the relay does all the heavy (high amp) work.

CJBergquist
11-07-2011, 08:58 PM
...and if that's not enough here is some additional "relay" info.

http://www.rattlebars.com/avalanche/relay_basics.html

EBarnes
11-07-2011, 09:13 PM
Love it - I get so much for my question's worth! Always good to learn these things BEFORE hand.

rj35pj
11-08-2011, 08:35 AM
CJBerjquist, Thank you for the pictures, it always helps me when some one draws me a picture or diagram.