Looking for info on changing to 7 quart oil pan

[mburger]

Hello.

I have a BPE 347 with a standard 5qt oil pan.
I'm thinking of changing this to a 7qt pan, but not sure which pan to be looking at.
Also, I'm currently using a Lokar dipstick instead of the stock BPE dipstick.
I'm using the Lokar to relocate the dipstick.
The dipstick tube is in the block.

Is there a complete kit for this modification?
Can I continue to use my Lokar dipstick?
Should I leave well enough alone? :-)

Thanks

[egchewy79]

I have a Kevco racing pan that fits my 289.
I plugged the dipstick hole in the timing cover with a bolt and RTV.
The dipstick goes directly into the pan with the shaft coming out between #7 and #8 header tubes.
Kevco also sells a magnetic drain plug to attract any metal shavings in the oil.
you'll also need to pick up a new oil pickup tube for the rear sump location and a support stud that holds the tube in place.

[Richard Oben]

http://www.northracecars.com/oil_pans.html

Shameless plug....

[Jacob McCrea]

Mark,

I used this one and was happy enough with price, fit and finish, etc. I had to use an old dip stick tube, trimmed, filled with silicone and glued in place with silicone, to fill the unused hole in the block. I think the pickup comes separately. I imagine you could reuse the Lokar dipstick.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6675-FT302

[rich grsc]

Good lord ford is proud of that thing.:eek: I have a Kevco track pan, the full deal, kick outs, trap doors, windage tray and crank scraper. I don't think you can find a better pan for the money.

[Bob Cowan]

Hello.

I have a BPE 347 with a standard 5qt oil pan.
I'm thinking of changing this to a 7qt pan, but not sure which pan to be looking at.
Also, I'm currently using a Lokar dipstick instead of the stock BPE dipstick.
I'm using the Lokar to relocate the dipstick.
The dipstick tube is in the block.

Is there a complete kit for this modification?
Can I continue to use my Lokar dipstick?
Should I leave well enough alone? :-)

Thanks

Why? Unless you're racing, there's really no need for additional oil.

Canton pans are well designed, and have some very nice features. But they are prone to leakage.

Kevco seems to be about the best for the money. But they can be difficult to clean out.

There are other pans available for a bit more money. You get what you pay for.

As for the dipstick, it depends. If the new pan is simply deeper, then the current dip stick will be perfect. Some pans have wings, and are not as deep as your current pan. With those, you'll need to re-mark the dipstick.

[bobl]

http://www.northracecars.com/oil_pans.html

Shameless plug....

Richard,

How deep is your 302 pan? Does it include the correct pickup?

[bobl]

Hello.

I have a BPE 347 with a standard 5qt oil pan.
I'm thinking of changing this to a 7qt pan, but not sure which pan to be looking at.
Also, I'm currently using a Lokar dipstick instead of the stock BPE dipstick.
I'm using the Lokar to relocate the dipstick.
The dipstick tube is in the block.

Is there a complete kit for this modification?
Can I continue to use my Lokar dipstick?
Should I leave well enough alone? :-)

Thanks

This is a nice pan at a fair price. https://www.champpans.com/products/p/cp302lt-rr/
Make sure you get a pan that is no more than 7 1/2 inches deep. I've done several engines with these pans and never had any leak. This is the same pan that Gordon Levy sells, so given a choice I'd buy from him. You need the matching pickup.

[Avalanche325]

I have the pan that Gordon sells. Very happy with it. If you autocross or track, the baffle doors are very important.

I used a Lokar locking dipstik, that took a little work to get it adapted to the pan.

[phileas_fogg]

This is a nice pan at a fair price. https://www.champpans.com/products/p/cp302lt-rr/
Make sure you get a pan that is no more than 7 1/2 inches deep. I've done several engines with these pans and never had any leak. This is the same pan that Gordon Levy sells, so given a choice I'd buy from him. You need the matching pickup.

I bought that pan from Levy Racing because the stock 302 pan put the drain plug about 1/8" below the 4" tubes. Gordon provides the correct pickup with the pan.

As Bob says, unless you are racing you don't need the extra oil capacity. If you're like me and have a "pan is too low for liking" problem, the Champ pan will probably fix that.

Finally, if you're working on your back without a lift, be prepared for a bit of a struggle. Here's the thread where I documented the swap: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?31877-John’s-Excellent-Oil-Pan-Adventure


John

[CFranks]

I have a 427W, it takes 9-10 quarts. I have to sell a kidney to afford each oil change. Stay with the smaller one if you can!

[egchewy79]

Putting studs in the larger threaded holes in the front and back of the pan make installing gasket and pan much easier if crawling under the car with an installed engine. I had to swap out my high volume oil pump to a standard one after my engine was already installed.

[mburger]

Sorry for the late reply here.
First, thank you all for the info and input. It’s all helpful.
Bob Cowan: This may not make sense, but this is why I’m entertaining a 7 quart pan.My BPE347 is using just under 1qt per 1,000 miles. It has about 2,800 miles on it. I thought it would be helpful with another 2 quarts. Stupid I know.
John: Thanks for the link to your pan change project. Boy what a project it was.
CFranks: Hahaha

Seems I’d be able to not touch my Lokar dipstick. The tube is in the block and the stick is the proper length so an additional couple quarts below won’t change anything. I would check for interface of course.