Jamminj's type 65R cnc cut parts

[jamminj]

updated(I have purchased my type65r)

here's the parts I have purchase
Built coyote(317in) in build process
Darton sleeved
custom Manely extreme pistons
Boostline rods
Winberg billet crank
Billet main caps
gt500 oil pump kit with boundry billet gears
Comp custom designed blower cams By Billy Godbold
Ported heads by Tim Eichhorn NPR racing engines
Whipple 3.8 supercharger (New design 2k+hp Completely reengineered not out till may/June 2021)
super 8.8irs with 3.73 Torsen
GForce performance outlaw half shafts
liberty gear built t56 magnum
Browell bell housing
black magic defiant slipper clutch
s197 spindles front
6 piston Brembo (s550) 15" rotors front (2013 gt 500)
4 piston Brembo (camaro/ctsv) on 11.88 (s197) rotors rear
Forgeline GA1R 18" wheels with Toyo r888r tires for road racing
weld wheels 15X12 double bead lock for drag strip and skinnies up front
Girodisc full floating rotors
AEM engine management system
building my own chromoly upper and lower control arms and pushrod/bell crank adjustable spring and damper system:o

Images below were of my original build that has since then been torn apart to remove Boostline rods to be used in my big power build.
now I have 2 engines one is Edelbrock 2650 supercharged and the other is the big Whipple build.

[jamminj]

The 2 gen1 coyote intake ports side by side are left ported by MPR racing and right stock no porting quite a difference

[Rsnake]

This should be an amazing build! How much HP are you looking to achieve?

[Rsnake]

I am in the process of building mine and in California as well. Not too far from you.

[jamminj]

2k+ on One Ethanol R or methanol
But I'll be running a pump gas tune and a chocked throttle body on the street at about 700hp.
and a road track tune with e85 in the neighborhood of 900

[jamminj]

Will Roland at RPG racing in Fresno is helping me with my build

[q4stix]

Should be a monster!
I take it you're using the Gen 1 timing setup and phasers because of the Infinity?

And welcome!

[Rsnake]

That will be scary fast at those HP levels.
My build is on YouTube at cobra Daytona build.
Welcome to the factory five family.
I am looking forward to seeing your build.

[jamminj]

yes I'm using gen 1 hope I dont have to lock the phasers
my intake is 240 duration and 570 lift
my exhaust are 246 duration and 576 lift
the rate of lift is aggressive also reaching full lift quicker than street cams
using the 2020 gt500 oil pump (20%)more volume and Travis at boundary pumps
ported oil pump gears
hoping to be able to control the cams.
I'm waiting my heads actual cfm's tested
but ive been quoted intake cfm 383@.600 lift and exhaust cfm 273@.600 lift
so these cams will make good use of these ports

[jamminj]

cool just glanced at your YouTube I'll check it out more later

[jamminj]

boundary ported 2020 GT 500 billet pump gears
ports reduce oil cavitation
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difference between factory coyote gear and 2020 GT 500 gears
20% more volume
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2020 GT 500 pump fits all coyote years

[only1moreracecaripromiss]

Jammin,
I have a coupe 65 r coming in a few weeks and didn't order wheels from FFR. For some reason, I can't get a straight answer out of anyone on their aftermarket setups for wheels and tires. Have seen lots out there that 17/18x10's upfront and 18x12" in the back is possible on these cars. Can you tell me if you have confirmed any of this with your Forgeline GA1R 18" wheels that you are looking at?

[jamminj]

i have the wheels but not the car yet
they came off my mustang the offsets are wrong but I'm going to be making my own a-arms front and rear
but my friend is building a type 65 now and i was going to take mine wheels over there and mock them up
it will be a few weeks
i can let you know after that if you haven't figured it out by then

[jamminj]

by the way 18X12 should work if the offsets are right
ffr should be able to help with that
I'm assuming your running Toyo r888r 335 30r 18
also check this post out
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?39237-Doug-s-Coupe-R-Build-Thread&p=453444#post453444

[jamminj]

I ordered my type 65r kit today
have most of what I need to build the rest of the car

[Skuzzy]

Congratulations!

[jamminj]

thanks won't see my kit until march
adjustable 11" clutch pro stock style(slipper) from black magic came last week (American made)
liberty built Tremic t56 magnum showed up Monday
Browell sfi 6.1 bell house with bottom clearance for low vehicles and inspection cover(needed for adjustable clutches) came Tuesday (American made)
QuickTime bottom hangs too low and if you modify it you will lose you sfi rating for most people that isn't an issue

Girodisc rotors came Thursday factory 15" weigh 34lbs these are full floating and weigh 22.3lbs (American made)
I'll load pics later when i have time

[jamminj]

Black Magic adjustable clutch

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Liberty fully built t56 magnum

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6 piston Brembo's (s550 mustang)
2013 gt500 15" full floating rotors from Girodisc
s197 mustang spindles
(Will not fit ffr a-arms or spindles)

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[Skuzzy]

All the attachments seem to be invalid. Seven months! Dang. I have been figuring 18 months as a minimum.

[jamminj]

Completed
Edson Myers car 82 years young
built by himself in 7 months
including paint

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[Skuzzy]

Completed
Edson Myers car 82 years young
built by himself in 7 months
including paint

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Incredible! Just incredible.

[jamminj]

Finally on Monday the 27th I get to drop my engines off at RPG racing to be built
last march I put my name on Will's long waiting list and now the day has come for me to drop off my blocks and all my parts to be built

[jamminj]

GEN 1 coyote block ready for interference water jacket spacers for big boost from 3.8l Whipple
spacers are press fit into cnc receiver on block. Then the block can be decked, o-ringed
and drilled for water jacket holes to match head gaskets

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=160590&d=1642704030

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[q4stix]

Is the closed deck something that is done regularly or something new for this build?
It looks like the first pictures you posted are with sleeves but they don't look like they're there in the most recent block images (but maybe that's the lighting). I do see the counterbore for them in the CAD images though.

Thanks for sharing more pictures, it's fun to see!

[jamminj]

first pic was my original build I was going to be running 1300 hp with Edelbrock 2650
but that all change when I ordered a Whipple 3.8l and I started another build, and these are the new pics
I'm going to end up with 2 complete engines when I'm done so I guess I'll need to build another car later

Back to your question the spacer adds more uniform support to the Darton sleeves for more than 2000 hp
And no, it's not done regularly just for high boost

[jamminj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYccrMhwlQ

[q4stix]

Thanks for the explanation and the video. Totally makes sense now and I figured I missed a step in between haha.

I'm familiar with Subarus and the EJ engine when they machine it similarly for a closed deck setup but I've never seen it on the Coyote platform. Should be a monster!

[jamminj]

Yes, I think all of these closed deck design started with either Subaru or Toyota don't know who was first

we will be running MLS gaskets with the O-ring cut right behind the fire ring in the block around .008 above deck without receiver
I've seen 2js with 80+LBs of boost at over 2000 WHP
we have good flow so we will probably only need to see 38-40Lbs to meet our goals

copper gaskets (that like to weep) need a much taller O-ring and receiver

[jamminj]

This engine is similar to mine but mine is being built stronger
my interference water-jacket supports won't fall in the engine like those in the video did
and we are using a billet Winberg crank which will keep the crank from walking the main caps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYSQ6mvO2dY&t=34s

[jamminj]

very good coyote build video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UIpJT4QfjXw

[jamminj]

Woohoo :o
get my car in 7 or 8 weeks
My for real 2100hp+ coyote engine is past all machining and structural phases
everything is balanced with pressure plate and flywheel
and now is in assembly
then off to Whipple for testing with c25 race gas and one ethanal r
we are taking this engine to the limitations of the Whipple 3.8l race version
My frame builder is ready to help me with my spec 25.1 chromoly frame
pics and vids coming soon

[jamminj]

Stewart Transport has me tentatively scheduled for delivery end of march

[jamminj]

Around 4 weeks and sanity ends and the fun begins

[Ltngdrvr]

Around 4 weeks and sanity ends and the fun begins

Oh, hell, sanity ended when you placed your order.

If you're like most other car guys, sanity actually ended a very long time ago, as evidenced by the crazy engine you're planning...:rolleyes::cool:

[Skuzzy]

Oh, hell, sanity ended when you placed your order.

If you're like most other car guys, sanity ended a very long time ago...:rolleyes::cool:

Quoted for truth.

[jamminj]

There is an actual reason for my madness
originally, I was looking for 1000+ whp
but then I saw this and decided that's what i needed to do
and I called my engine builder (Will) when he informed me, he was friends with Kevin at m2k motor sports
and was all over trying to help me do 300mph
so off to the races
and turn a club of 1 into a club of 2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZM3nH-IYUeU

[jamminj]

in car vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LNd8_8gjOwc

[Ltngdrvr]

So, what aero enhancements will you be adding to get you close to that number???
It'll take some major aero help to get you anywhere close.

[jamminj]

too much aero is bad at that speed the down force is so great you could literally push your car into the ground
with the big wing that you see on joe's car 1700lb's at 160 i assume at 300 it would be roughly around 6000lbs of down force

[Ltngdrvr]

too much aero is bad at that speed the down force is so great you could literally push your car into the ground
with the big wing that you see on joe's car 1700lb's at 160 i assume at 300 it would be roughly around 6000lbs of down force

Without some added downforce, it'll lift and become unstable way before you reach your desired speed.

[Skuzzy]

While downforce is an issue, I would consider reinforcing the body or the fiberglass could disintegrate. Any buffeting, at all, would be akin to taking a sledgehammer to the body. There are areas of my body (arrived 11/19/21) where the glass is just over 1/16" thick. The front radiator opening and the rear of the roof were the thinnest on my body.

Made the mistake of trying to raise the nose of the hood up by grabbing the front grill/radiator opening and a piece of it came off in my hand.

[Glen Davis]

I would take the car to a wind tunnel to test what it will do at 300MPH. You don't want it flying off the ground at 290MPH!
There is a wind tunnel in Utah, if I remember correctly, that my son is going to use for his Bonneville run in 2023/24.

[jamminj]

Bonneville is tougher to much downforce and your tires will start spinning on the salt
at Bonniville the objective is to make an airplane that flies at ground level scarry

There will be downforce I will have a splitter and a wing mounted to the frame, but I will be careful to have the right amount of down force
I've been informed that the guys at m2k motorsports are in the loop

[jamminj]

Any thoughts on how well ffr windshield wipers work
I'm thinking about adding them to my kit

[Dave Tabor]

Any thoughts on how well ffr windshield wipers work
I'm thinking about adding them to my kit

Probably not very well at 300 mph.

Dave
Gen III #17

[klawrence]

probably not very well at 300 mph.

Dave
gen iii #17

lol;)

[Ltngdrvr]

Probably not very well at 300 mph.

Dave
Gen III #17

That's funny right there! :D

Of course with wipers on it, there might be too much downforce to make it to 300...:p

[jamminj]

ha ha :D
obviously i would remove the arms when I'm racing

[jamminj]

my car is on the floor ready for shipping
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[jamminj]

Todd Cunningham <todd@stewarttransport.com>
Mon 4/4/2022 7:42 AM
Hi James,

Tentative pick up is early next week, between 4/11-4/13. I will give you a call today or tomorrow and we’ll go over the schedule.

Todd Cunningham

[q4stix]

Sweet! It's getting close!

[jamminj]

is there a difference between these led headlight kits which is better?

https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vc4000-ultimate-kit/ $244 a set of 2 no adaptors

https://www.holley.com/products/electrical/led_lighting/retrobright/parts/LFRB155 $199 each with adaptors

[Ltngdrvr]

is there a difference between these led headlight kits which is better?

https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vc4000-ultimate-kit/ $244 a set of 2 no adaptors

https://www.holley.com/products/electrical/led_lighting/retrobright/parts/LFRB155 $199 each with adaptors

Well, the Holley's are purpose designed as LED lights, the other is just a conversion on a halogen design.
If you go with the fist kit, get the Hella housings, they will give the most correct look and a good light pattern, and still less money than the Holley's.
The only question in my mind with those is whether the LED bulbs are very good, poor quality LED's may still be bright, but the light pattern isn't very good even in a quality lens housing.

[jamminj]

the first kit has replacement bulbs at $179 per pair (could keep back up bulbs in car)
with Holley you will need to replace the unit
Holley's are probably better
not sure which way to go

[Ltngdrvr]

the first kit has replacement bulbs at $179 per pair (could keep back up bulbs in car)
with Holley you will need to replace the unit
Holley's are probably better
not sure which way to go

Holley says the bulb is replaceable in theirs too, as a unit with the pigtail.

[Ltngdrvr]

And, if you buy the first set and get the Hella housings, they should come with the halogen bulbs, that's how Hella supplies them.
Check out Namrups recent posts in his build thread about the same subject.

[Ltngdrvr]

Pic of holley replaceable bulb unit.
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[jamminj]

thanks for all the input

[jamminj]

RPG Racing Engines <support@rpgracingengines.com>
Thu 4/14/2022 7:24 AM
Good Morning James,

Everything is fine, we are just extremely busy, people never fully comprehend how busy we truly are or understand that we have over 80+ builds going on

In saying that, we are still on schedule to Dyno late April at Whipple and very excited for it :) Thank you for being patient with us.

Thank you
Will

[jamminj]

My APR gt-1000 wing came the last Friday

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[Logan]

Nice! Where did you source it, and how much? I need to get one for my R eventually.

I'm chomping at the bit to see your build get started!

[jamminj]

My car is here

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[Dave Tabor]

my car is here

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whooohooo!!!! Go!

[jamminj]

Done on Bend Tech Pro
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[jamminj]

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[jamminj]

Frame Progress
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[jamminj]

More Progress
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Uprights and diagonals

[jamminj]

Now the frame fits perfectly
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[Skuzzy]

So are you making a duplicate the supplied FF frame in chromoly. Are you physically stiffening the frame further, than the standard mild steel frame? Did you cut the wall thickness of the chromoly?

Cutting the weight of the car does not seem intuitive to me. Aerodynamics will come into play long before weight will when trying to reach 300MPH.

[jamminj]

this is a sfi 25.1 spec frame and scca
I used the frame from ffr for a template.
if you look closely at my pics, you will see that it is not the same as factory 5.
It needed to be made out of chromoly.
Also, it needs the main hoop to connect directly to the rocker bars and the number 1 bar.
the number 1 bar is the bar behind the seats at the floor and it needed to be in 1 line.
and i need a funny car hoop and diagonals at the doors.
as i go on I'll keep posting more pics.

[Skuzzy]

Ahhh...I see. Nicely done.

[jamminj]

the weight cut is a bonus for drag racing ever 100lbs is a 10th.
stick shift class here I come.
if I can drive mayby we will see 6's
I've also made the car easily fit 28 x 10.5 drag slick/radials it will actually fit 29 x 13 with possible body issues.
and it will easily fit 345 in the rear and 315 in the front.
I'm building my dream car.
When I was young early 80s it was my 68 Olds 442
then I was looking for blown 8-71 screw drive Hampton and 1100 horsepower, but life got in the way.

[Skuzzy]

Yes, for drag racing every pound matters. For some reason I had it in my head you were just trying to reach 300MPH and I just glossed over how you got there.

Like you, I am building my dream car, but mine is a very different application.

[jamminj]

diagonals are ready to weld.
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engine bay and transmission tunnel bends are mocked up and ready to fit.
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checking oversized inside frame tire clearance
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[jamminj]

my funny car hoop is in place
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[jamminj]

by tonight I'll have a lot more done
here's a look at the funny car halo from a bird's eye view.
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[jamminj]

finished funny car cage
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I have a verbal approval from Ken Gentry (NHRA inspector)
That all the stuff I've done so far met NHRA requirements for a SFI 25.1 spec frame

[q4stix]

Great progress forging ahead on the cage

[jamminj]

checking fitment its perfect
meets SCCA and NHRA for 7.5 second and faster requirements.
everything clears.
doors fit even and don't have to cut out for bars.
windshield and hatch lay flat without any corner lift.
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[jamminj]

round 2
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[Skuzzy]

Impressive work. Nicely done.

[jamminj]

Can you tell I've widened the rear fenders?
I didn't want my coupe to look like it had flared fenders.
The fenders are now 75 5/8" wide 74.25" inside between the lips.
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[jamminj]

using ffr control arms to mockup before I start building my own control arms
have my instant centers very close to where i need them
ordered my fk rod ends
22 of these for my control arms
RSMX10 5/8 id 3/4-16
24 of these for my pushrod suspension
RSMX8 1/2 id 5/8-18
and a bunch of other components

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[jamminj]

modified s550 knuckles
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fits 14 1/8 circumference
when I want to run 15" bead locks
s550 irs knuckles with s197 rotors and uses one of the most common 4 piston rear Brembo's
2010-15 ss Camaro
I can ether use factory pad ap1718 or ap1854 with 4mm spacers
but also, Danny at g-lock is going to put a custom profile in his computer for me and make a perfect size

[jamminj]

upper control arm attachments welded up ready to drill for rod ends.
ready to weld in toe adjustment attachments
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not using ffr control arms just using them to mockup my instant centers both rear to front and side to side.
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in this photo (front the car is to the right)
you can see how my instant center is going to be about 65" in front of the centerline of the
rear wheels about 26" from the floor which will geometrically help reduce squat (anti-squat)
which in turn (for track purposes) helps traction out of the corner and reduces understeer
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[jamminj]

Toe link attachments ready to weld in place.
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[jamminj]

Rear s550 knuckles all welded up and
ready to drill for rod ends
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[Skuzzy]

Really am enjoying your work.

[jamminj]

thanks, skuzzy.
i work about 90 hours a week but i made myself a rule that i do a little on my car every week so that it doesn't get stuck in a corner for years.
everything takes forever if you want it accurate.

Proudly tutting my own horn
today i checked in all my measurements in relationship to the face of the knuckles.
and the distances from main spherical bearing to my lugs(i don't know what to call them) and everything is uniform.
and virtually exact from side to side
made it really easy to find my centerlines for the rod ends.
I'm going to start drilling right now.

[jamminj]

drilled
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now I get to start building control arms.;)

tapping control arm components
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[jamminj]

Hello everyone.
this is the email from Will Roland owner engine builder at
https://rpgracingengines.com/gallery/

I'll be down there for a whole day of dyno tuning from pump gas to race gas to e85 and then finally methanol.
I'll be videoing it all and then posting it here.


"Good afternoon my friend,

I hope you and your wife have been well and hope the car is progressing well. Things are finally smoothing out here with us and after a lot of trial and error the SuperFlow engine Dyno is officially up and running!

We have a handful of engines to Dyno and run through, but you will be the first one we will be doing full power pulls on, we are going to get some baseline baby pulls done to get some mapping done over the next few weeks then we can plan on meeting up later this month to do the full on power pulls and watch this baby sing up to 2000+HP!

Stay cool and thank you sincerely for the enormous patience and kindness for us, it is God sent.

Thank you!
Will "

[Skuzzy]

Ohhhh, that is going to be fun!

[jamminj]

As for Dynoing I haven't heard anything yet. :(
I finished my irs chromoly upper control arms today.
and mocked one up on my left rear knuckle.

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[jamminj]

I started out in life as a starving furniture builder.
I now build cabinet doors for cabinet shops for a living.
the walnut cabinet was made 100% out of air-dried Claro walnut slabs.
resawed book matched panels and radius drawer fronts out of the same piece
the rest of the pics are figured hard rock maple
all moldings and turnings and everything were made by me.
the dowels on the corners of the cabs were corner cut while square the i glued a square back in the corner with a newspaper separator then hand turned into dowels.
then removed the glue in corner so I could attach to the cabs.
all molding were handheld in place until dry no exposed nails or screws on the entire job.

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[jamminj]

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[jamminj]

Lower control arms almost done

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[jamminj]

lower control arms mostly done.
mockup with everything connected to the wheels later tonight.

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[jamminj]

Rear control arms done.
control arms lost over 1lb of unsprang weight.
rims and tire lost over 10lb over stock mustang wheels and tires.
rotors and calipers lost about 13lbs over stock irs stuff.
that's 24lbs per corner in the rear.

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15" wheels will fit over these 4 piston Brembo's
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the control arm angles promote anti squat on acceleration.
the driving forces at the rear tire push the body up.
at the same time weight at the engine is being pushed under the instant center to fight the forces trying to cause a wheely
also, anti-lift on breaking in both rotational and inertial.

[jamminj]

ready to start attaching my center section and then my control arms to frame.

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[jamminj]

A little more progress and a lot of thinking
how the heck am I supposed to attach everything :confused:

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if I use the 6xd this will be the gear set I'll be using
and in excess of 2000 hp
the speeds shown are with hoosier A7 345/35 zr18 26.8 tall

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[jamminj]

I CNC cut 5.2 MDF to mockup part to attach rod ends to
after a few attempts and recutting parts I got it right.
now I can email my dxf files to my friend to cut on his CNC plasma cutter.

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[jamminj]

cnc template maker
quick and easily used to make mockup parts


https://youtu.be/Rz8tBn5rhpk

[jamminj]

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large rod end attachments installed.

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[jamminj]

took dxf files to my friend and he cut my parts out of my sheet of .188 chromoly


https://youtu.be/rJd2PwRBDE8

[jamminj]

the a-arms are tack welded in place and fully attached except the toe links.
none of the supporting attachments are installed.
I'll do that after I figure out where all my suspension component will go.


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[GT_Rich]

Have you considered the knock down factor for welded structural aluminum components? It's nearly a factor of 2! Welded aluminum spindles would scare me.

[jamminj]

all the components I've welded are 3/4" thick and have been chamfered 3/8" both sides and welded from the root while sitting in a pan of water.
I'm absolutely not worried at all

[jamminj]

I build cabinet doors for cabinet shops this is what I'm working on today.
I like to show what I'm doing I'm not trying to sell anything.
in 30 years of business, I haven't had a day that I haven't had more work than I can do.


quarter sawn white oak heavy flake shaker doors
i wish my customer could have afforded solid panels.
but it adds 40% to the cost of the doors.
so the panels are veneer instead.

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