all in price for Coyote set up

[timwert65]

I haven't ordered my kit yet and am still trying to decide what engine/tranny combination to use. Going to the build school this weekend, so hope to get some insight there.
What is the all in price for a Gen III Coyote and Tranny set up? Are most using the 2018-2020 6 speed, or using something different?
Thanks advance for the input.

[nuhale]

call mike forte

[edwardb]

The Factory Five Coyote installation instructions list all the parts required. https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Coyote-Gen-3-Fitment-roadster-rev-1E.pdf. Keeping in mind that many of the parts listed (starter, alternator, etc.) would be required for any engine setup. A Gen 3 requires a custom tune once the stock cold air intake is replaced, which is mandatory. Will start and run on the stock tune, but isn't drivable. If you have a local tuner that's probably the most economical. Also possible to do a remote tune from a company like Lund Racing. In the $1K range. The Gen 3 Coyote is an awesome setup at 500 HP or so and a great runner. Have one in my Gen 3 Coupe. Good value for what it is but not inexpensive.

For the trans, probably the TKO is the most popular. Now superseded by the new TKX. The 6-speed T-56 is also used but less frequently and only in an IRS Roadster. Also fits in the Coupe, Hot Rod, Truck. The stock Getrag MT-82 is used occasionally. But has some fitment issues, the shifter needs relocation, the driveshaft requires a change, and the ratios are arguably not ideal. So no, most aren't using it. But it can be done.

[Al_C]

call mike forte

Another recommendation for Mike Forte here.

[progmgr1]

The April 2021 issue of Hot Rod has a good overview article on manual transmissions.
Keith HR #894

[Chris @ Forma]

If you want a Crate motor Mike Forte is the way to go. If you want to save some $, we have good experience in purchasing low mileage Coyote's from a couple of very reputable dealers. We typically pay $9500-11,500 for Engine, tranny, rear end and rear uprights. We never buy one with more than 20k miles on it and a while ago we found one with only 1k miles (oil was still pristine).
If you go this route, you will also need to buy an aftermarket shifter mechanism as the mustang shift lever would come out of the tunnel around your right elbow. We make one as do some others. You will also require a custom drive shaft. We can help you here as well.
The build school is fantastic. I did it with my daughter about 10 years ago. The best part about the build school is that i will become confident in your ability to take on one of these. Likewise, if it turns out that this is not something you are suited to do. Better to spend a few hundred dollars on a long weekend then to be $20k+ into something that never gets done.

I had a conversation recently with a gentlemen that was 15+ years into a build and was still stalled.

Finally, the community is always willing to help.

[timwert65]

Thank you everyone for the input. I will research the FFR link to get a list and also call Mike.
I’m not opposed to putting in a used low mileage set up and will investigate pricing on both ends and see what makes sense

[timwert65]

Just in case anyone else is curious, after talking to Mike Forte- very close estimate for Engine w/all necessary installation parts/ Tranny and PS option is about $16k. Much less than I figured.

[CaptB]

Mike Forte ++++++

[glastron351]

I did a 408/TKO600 build....reverted it back to a carb setup (yes I know, some consider it a little backwards)...afraid to add up my invoices but I can't be to far from the 15k mark(or more). If I were stateside like others have said, Mike Forte would be at the top of my list....

Have fun at the build school....

[timwert65]

Thanks, looking forward to the school. Starts in 1 1/2 hours!!
The price being so close to a push valve crate/tranny set up is what has me intrigued. A 370hp 347 stroker and tranny from bluprint is around $14,500. for another $1,500 you can have an extra 90hp, and all the convenience of a modern engine. It doesn't work for those that want to follow close to the original build specs, but makes sense for a lot of others.

[jiriza84641]

Mike forte!!

[CoyoteCobra]

You can also get a drop out Coyote. Some of them are in pretty much new condition for a fraction of the price of a crate engine if you look around. I've seen some with only a couple hundred miles on them for cheap.

I bought a coyote out of a wrecked vehicle with super low miles on it. my total cost for the whole drive train was substantially less . Just something to consider if you're willing to use a drop out or want to put the money towards other parts.

[Jryasko]

Another 2 cents. Anything out of a wreck would need to be looked at by some good trained eyes. Could be damage that a regular person would not spot. In researching used engines for my build, anything with low miles was pretty pricey. Something else to consider that new crate motor will have a warranty. Mike F is your best bet on a package, including shipping.

[jiriza84641]

Mike Forte!!! You just can't go wrong!

[shrive81]

Does anyone know how to contact mike forte? I’m in need of a motor trans package as well

[edwardb]

Does anyone know how to contact mike forte? I’m in need of a motor trans package as well

https://fortesparts.com/

He's a supporting vendor. Click on the "Vendors" tab in the banner at the top of the page for the list.

[CoyoteCobra]

Another 2 cents. Anything out of a wreck would need to be looked at by some good trained eyes. Could be damage that a regular person would not spot.

Good point but most places that I looked at have a warranty. If the wreck was a rear end or clip in the rear quarter panel or similar, there's minimal chance of issues with the engine. Now a front end collision, yeah that's another story and certainly there's more to look at. I'd hope most "regular people" who are trying to build a car could have a clue to see these sorts of issues, too.