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Fbird
02-17-2021, 08:52 PM
Hi all I sourced a 2015 mustang 5.0 for my build. It was an automatic. I have the oil pan from champ pans through North race cars. I am glad I was dissuaded from building my own pan. The champ pan is a great looking piece that will function well. It is also made right here in my home state of WI. I pulled the stock pan and have the champ pan in place. I am looking into choices for flywheel and clutch.
When pulling off the flywheel the crank trigger ring that goes on the end of the crank fell off and the exact position is now in question. What is the procedure to get this correctly aligned? That is question #1.
Now for question number 2. I am going to be a street driver with occasional 1/4 mile runs. Ford performance flywheel, stock mustang flywheel, or aftermarket billet steel flywheel? Any advice for a newbie? Clutch recommendations?
Hopefully within the next month I am going to put the engine in place and get the Ford control pack to finish wiring, gas pedal, and coolant system mock up. Just need it to get warmer here. Take care.
Snowman
02-17-2021, 09:01 PM
Not sure if the Gen 2 is different, but on the Gen 3 the crank trigger ring only goes on one way. There is an alignment pin that only matches up with one hole.
Alan_C
02-17-2021, 09:19 PM
On that Champ pan, make sure the drain plug threads easily into the pan. At Champ, they are supposed to chase the threads on the nut on the pan after welding, years ago they got sloppy and missed the pan I bought. The nut needed to have the threads cleaned up with a tap, not something one should do on the car as there was metal shavings that made it into the pan. It is PITA to drop a brand new pan, chase the threads, and reinstall. Other than that oversight, a great pan that served me well.
Alan_C
02-17-2021, 09:24 PM
Look at he parts selection that EdwardB has used on his builds, he knows what works as far as the flywheel, clutch, etc.
If the position of the of the crank trigger ring is something one can take a picture of for reference, I can do that. I have a take out Coyote from a 2017 GT that is in my build. The car is on a lift, so I should be able to answer specific questions.
edwardb
02-18-2021, 12:06 AM
For both of my Coyote builds, I used:
Ford Performance M-6375-M50 billet flywheel. Note there are other choices. There's the original nodular that's a bit cheaper but also heavier and not as stout. There are a couple versions of the billet steel flywheel. This one is kind of in the middle at 20 lbs. Then there's also aluminum but not my choice.
Ford Performance M-7560-T46 clutch (it's a repackaged Centerforce)
Ford Performance M-6397-B46 pressure plate bolts and dowels
(8) M-6379-C Ford flywheel bolts
Ford Performance M-7600-C pilot bearing
All are decent quality, work together, and have held up well for me. For that crank sensor, as stated, should only go in one way. I've seen comments in other forums about it needed to be "relearned" if replaced. But others say no. 99% sure if you put it back the way it came out you'll be fine.
Fbird
02-18-2021, 07:10 PM
Thanks. I had it taped on after removing flywheel and storing for the winter, but when I lifted it up last the tape lost its stick and it fell off the back. I remembered it as soon as I heard the metal on cold garage floor.
Fbird
02-18-2021, 07:17 PM
For both of my Coyote builds, I used:
Ford Performance M-6375-M50 billet flywheel. Note there are other choices. There's the original nodular that's a bit cheaper but also heavier and not as stout. There are a couple versions of the billet steel flywheel. This one is kind of in the middle at 20 lbs. Then there's also aluminum but not my choice.
Ford Performance M-7560-T46 clutch (it's a repackaged Centerforce)
Ford Performance M-6397-B46 pressure plate bolts and dowels
(8) M-6379-C Ford flywheel bolts
Ford Performance M-7600-C pilot bearing
All are decent quality, work together, and have held up well for me. For that crank sensor, as stated, should only go in one way. I've seen comments in other forums about it needed to be "relearned" if replaced. But others say no. 99% sure if you put it back the way it came out you'll be fine.
Thank you all for advice regarding checking the pan threads and suggestions for what to use regarding the flywheel and clutch set up. I thought it appeared that the crank trigger ring only went one way but I also saw other information on the net suggesting that maybe it didn’t. I will have to check it out soon when I pull the engine out so I can work on it. Maybe a spring break project for me. Hopefully by then the snow will fade away. Will print the parts suggestions for my build book.
Adios
Alan_C
02-18-2021, 09:48 PM
Throughout a build we look at so many parts online that I found the need to keep a record of where to find things. I use an Excel spreadsheet where I keep a description of the part or article read and the website links. I organize it by general category, like engine, wiring, suspension, brakes, etc. I am constantly referencing the file and adding to it. I note those parts I actually bought vs. just ideas. I also keep another file with all the maintenance items for the car like fluids, but also things like brake pads, air filter, fuel filter, etc.
When I sold my MK4 in 2018, the new owner was very grateful that I documented the build and the maintenance parts used.
Fbird
02-21-2021, 05:26 PM
Good idea. I have all my invoices, notes, pictures, but should put things in a format like that. Typically all my cars I keep a notebook or binder with this kind of information.