Factory Five GTM Supercar, fastthings video build log

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

Gene... are you going to have to do any more cutting on the body now that you have the kart together??? wheels going to line up like you hoped???

[fastthings]

Gene... are you going to have to do any more cutting on the body now that you have the kart together??? wheels going to line up like you hoped???

Everything looks good, except....

I will post a new vid showing the redo of the front left fender. Basicly I widened the nose to cover both wheels. The hood wants to rest with the right wheel covered and the left not. No big deal, move it over. What I did not see, from not haveing the wheels on it doing the bodywork, was the very crooked and different angle line side to side. When you sight down the front of the car you see the right fender leaves a nice vertical line with the tire and a small amount of taper at the bottom. The left, line of sight is in and out with a very agressive taper at the bottom showing so much more tire. So now they match with both sides covering the wheels. I didn't have to cut anything, just added to it, the inside is untouched.

[fastthings]

Another video done. I'm in the middle of prepping the body for paint right now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_nQ_08fDD8&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[kabacj]

Hey Gene. Your car looks awesome. As someone who has stared at the GTM for over two years, I can see you have perfected it.

You covered the caster. The other thing to consider is you will not run the toyo r888 with 0 camber. I ran he RA1 s and will also run the 888s with 2.7 degrees of camber on the 245s. I'd figure that you will run 1.5 to 2 degrees on the street.

That brings the top of the tires in a noticeable amount. It wil be fine as it will be the same on both sides but since you have optimized everything. I wanted to point it out before you paint.

Same in the rear. But not as much of a change.

Looking great!

John

[fastthings]

Thanks John,

Yep I do realize that when I dial in the camber it will change the profile, as well as the toe, but it will change even. I set it at zero just because that is the easiest for me to find, (I used a level for camber, and sighted down the tires to get the toe). I have an appointment on the 21st to get it aligned and the corner wheights set.

So you think about 1.5 camber, is that front and rear? What is the majic number for the rear toe, .125?

[RumRunner]

Gene,

These are my alignment numbers for my Gen2. I think the rear camber is a bit high but that's the best I could do. With these settings at a ride height of 4.25" the car is very stable (at least up to 100 mph). I have about 800 miles on it now over the last 2 months and am very happy with the feel of the car. Hope that helps.

Front: Toe: R: 1/16" L: 1/16" Total 1/8"
Camber: R: -0.61 deg. L: -0.63 deg
Caster: R: 5.72 deg. L: 5.72 deg

Rear: Toe: R: 1/16" L: 1/16" Total: 1/8"
Camber: R: -1.14 deg L: -1.11 deg

-Michael

[kabacj]

Gene I used this as my track setup. It's close to what Michael runs too.

It was plenty stable up to 155.

I'll make a few tweeks taking some rear camber out and adding some more caster up front. This setup was fine so I didn't mess with it last year . This year I'll work on fine tuning.

Left Front Right front
caster -3 caster -3
camber -2.8 camber -2.7
toe -1/16 toe -1/16


Left Rear Right Rear
camber -1 camber -1
toe -1/16 toe -1/16

John

[fastthings]

Thanks guys,

I hope setting up the corner weight goes ok. I don't recall hearing anyone haveing trouble with an unbalanced chasis.

[fastthings]

2 steps forward 3 steps back, you guys know this dance, don't you?


http://youtu.be/GCb3mr7Ja3g

[xatudor]

Gene,
If the fisheye only happened at the end it could have been caused by moisture in the compressed air, too late to do anything about it now but maybe worth checking if you need to respray that a water trap is fitted and empty. I have no experience of spraying in really cold climates but have had to stop spraying my ute for about a week because the water trap was filling up so fast on warm (25-30 deg Celcius) humid days.

When it all seems to be going wrong or not to plan and I find it hard to get motivated I find looking back at what I started with and where I'm at gets me back on track, you have the advantage that you have recorded it all and you have come so far and you're getting closer everytime you work on your car.

I can't wait to see the finished car.
Mick

[LCD Gauges]

2 steps forward 3 steps back, you guys know this dance, don't you?

I'd give up my best build days to have your problems! :D

The car looks outstanding; just a few minor set backs to clear up and you'll be laughing.

[fastthings]

Gene,
If the fisheye only happened at the end it could have been caused by moisture in the compressed air, too late to do anything about it now but maybe worth checking if you need to respray that a water trap is fitted and empty. I have no experience of spraying in really cold climates but have had to stop spraying my ute for about a week because the water trap was filling up so fast on warm (25-30 deg Celcius) humid days.

When it all seems to be going wrong or not to plan and I find it hard to get motivated I find looking back at what I started with and where I'm at gets me back on track, you have the advantage that you have recorded it all and you have come so far and you're getting closer everytime you work on your car.

I can't wait to see the finished car.
Mick

The booth I was in is top notch, they never have any trouble. Besides, the hanging parts and the hood came out great. I really blame it on myself. The first part I sanded and washed was the body, I used the same wash mit and bucket that my boy uses for washing his car, full of wax I assume. I went ahead and did some more body work on the body and finnish sanded all the parts. I went to wash them and said to myself, hmm I better not use that mit. So I grabbed a rag and washed out the bucket real good. I really think thats what happened. I'll probably respray it in my garage and it will be fine.

Thanks Mick

[fastthings]

I'd give up my best build days to have your problems! :D

The car looks outstanding; just a few minor set backs to clear up and you'll be laughing.

I hear ya, thanks man.

[Presto51]

The booth I was in is top notch, they never have any trouble. Besides, the hanging parts and the hood came out great. I really blame it on myself. The first part I sanded and washed was the body, I used the same wash mit and bucket that my boy uses for washing his car, full of wax I assume. I went ahead and did some more body work on the body and finnish sanded all the parts. I went to wash them and said to myself, hmm I better not use that mit. So I grabbed a rag and washed out the bucket real good. I really think thats what happened. I'll probably respray it in my garage and it will be fine.

Hey Gene,

Don't beat yourself up too much over the fisheyes. I've done everything by the book, on preping a car for paint, and then have some balloon head cut loose with some silicone that floated in the air, across the shop, through the shop doors, and land in the paint shop, and get sucked into the booth, while I'm spraying.

Just file it under S_ _t happens. OR........

Your GTM is pissed at you for letting it sit while you worked on your sons VW! Just Saying :rolleyes:

Ron

[skullandbones]

Hi Gene,

Heard you say you had about 1K in materials on the video if I heard that correctly (listened twice). Is that including paint? I thought it was much more usually. What did you use?

Too bad about the contaminants but it doesn't look like you will have too much trouble fixing it. When you're expecting perfect anything else is a bummer!!!

I've enjoyed following your build. Thanks, WEK.

[fastthings]

Hey Gene,

Don't beat yourself up too much over the fisheyes. I've done everything by the book, on preping a car for paint, and then have some balloon head cut loose with some silicone that floated in the air, across the shop, through the shop doors, and land in the paint shop, and get sucked into the booth, while I'm spraying.

Just file it under S_ _t happens. OR........

Your GTM is pissed at you for letting it sit while you worked on your sons VW! Just Saying :rolleyes:

Ron

Ron, you crack me up. I hope the GTM isn't pissed at me, but maybe it is. Your starting to make me think it could be true. From all the time I've been spending on the GTM, my truck is pissed at me now, it has no power, can't even spin out in the mud. I let my daughter use my 02 BMW to let her nephew take his driver license test, she called me on the side of the road, smoke coming out of the hood and it just free revs in gear, it's pissed. And now my wife tells me her SRX was trying to die yesterday, it's pissed too. I tell ya, I just need to slow down and take care of things. I'm running around like a zombie. I'm doing nothing Sunday but watching the 500.

Are you a painter? I've seen painters so mad about silicone in the shop, it seems like it takes weeks if not months to go away.

[fastthings]

Hi Gene,

Heard you say you had about 1K in materials on the video if I heard that correctly (listened twice). Is that including paint? I thought it was much more usually. What did you use?

Too bad about the contaminants but it doesn't look like you will have too much trouble fixing it. When you're expecting perfect anything else is a bummer!!!

I've enjoyed following your build. Thanks, WEK.

Yes including paint. I'm useing PPG urethane enamel, factory pack black. The other color I had would have been 1500 just for the paint. Red is very expensive, black is not, different colors cost.

[Presto51]

Ron, you crack me up. I hope the GTM isn't pissed at me, but maybe it is. Your starting to make me think it could be true. From all the time I've been spending on the GTM, my truck is pissed at me now, it has no power, can't even spin out in the mud. I let my daughter use my 02 BMW to let her nephew take his driver license test, she called me on the side of the road, smoke coming out of the hood and it just free revs in gear, it's pissed. And now my wife tells me her SRX was trying to die yesterday, it's pissed too. I tell ya, I just need to slow down and take care of things. I'm running around like a zombie. I'm doing nothing Sunday but watching the 500.

Are you a painter? I've seen painters so mad about silicone in the shop, it seems like it takes weeks if not months to go away.

Damn Gene when it rains in the car world, it looks like it pours on you like a monsoon.

Yes I was a painter for about 24 years till common sense and old age over took me and I got out of the bussiness, and yes silicone in the shop is a painters number one enemy :)

I was the one that painted Rumrunners #327 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12060-Revealing-Photos-of-GTM-327-!

Hang in there. Have cold adult beverage. Stick to do nothing on Sunday. Have more cold adult beverages. Then ask forgiveness from all of your cars, and hope they don't hold a grudge against you.

Ron

[fastthings]

Damn Gene when it rains in the car world, it looks like it pours on you like a monsoon.

Yes I was a painter for about 24 years till common sense and old age over took me and I got out of the bussiness, and yes silicone in the shop is a painters number one enemy :)

I was the one that painted Rumrunners #327 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12060-Revealing-Photos-of-GTM-327-!

Hang in there. Have cold adult beverage. Stick to do nothing on Sunday. Have more cold adult beverages. Then ask forgiveness from all of your cars, and hope they don't hold a grudge against you.

Ron

Well, cool, I feel a coonection to you then, I grew up in body shops. I started out watching my dad fix cars, using lead, asbestos, no wire feed welders, back in the day. Back then, if you brought in a 5th of whiskey with your car we waved your deductable. I used to watch my dad mix paint with a cigaret in his mouth. It's kinda funny how there is such a love hate relationship between bodymen and painters.

* I'm not a painter, I'm a bodyamn. I have much respect for painters.

[Presto51]

Well, cool, I feel a coonection to you then, I grew up in body shops. I started out watching my dad fix cars, using lead, asbestos, no wire feed welders, back in the day. Back then, if you brought in a 5th of whiskey with your car we waved your deductable. I used to watch my dad mix paint with a cigaret in his mouth. It's kinda funny how there is such a love hate relationship between bodymen and painters.

* I'm not a painter, I'm a bodyamn. I have much respect for painters.

Oh yeah the good old days, when a fifth would get you somewhere :rolleyes:

And yes I got along with some of the bodymen that I work with.....Usually after an understanding of the certain order of things that were allowed and not allowed were established. As you know the rule of the shop...

The last one to touch/work on the car it owned it. But working with the bodymen of the shop, I can safely say that the come back, or worse the never leave cars were very low. We lived by the watching each others backs code :cool:

BTW: Did you use single stage or two stage paint, and how many coats did you say you put on before you pulled the plug ?

Ron

[fastthings]

Oh yeah the good old days, when a fifth would get you somewhere :rolleyes:

And yes I got along with some of the bodymen that I work with.....Usually after an understanding of the certain order of things that were allowed and not allowed were established. As you know the rule of the shop...

The last one to touch/work on the car it owned it. But working with the bodymen of the shop, I can safely say that the come back, or worse the never leave cars were very low. We lived by the watching each others backs code :cool:

BTW: Did you use single stage or two stage paint, and how many coats did you say you put on before you pulled the plug ?

Ron

Single stage, the first time 2 coats. The second time the 3rd coat went to shi. I don't know why the sealer went on fine, and the fish eye came on more and more after each coat. Normaly I would see it right from the start.

[Presto51]

Single stage, the first time 2 coats. The second time the 3rd coat went to shi. I don't know why the sealer went on fine, and the fish eye came on more and more after each coat. Normaly I would see it right from the start.

Okay it sucks but it's not the end of the world.

Sounds like the incoming air might have picked some contamination. One time I worked close to a fast food restaurant, and when the wind changed direction along came the grease that was kicked out of the exhaust fan. Another time it was a diesel truck that was left to idle right outside of the paint booth intake vent.

On the bright side of life, after you wet sand the body and get rid of the fisheyes, when you go to repaint it, you'll have a nice solid hardened base to lay the new coats over. If your real lucky it might flow out and set up so good that you might not have to any buffing on the main body. Of course your next worry is to get the rest of the panels to look as good. :cool:

Remember to use a good grease and wax remover/cleaner, dry it off really good, and open a new tack rag just before you pull the trigger

Good Luck

Ron

[fastthings]

You saw that huh, I have a story for that too. After seeing the carnage of the first 2 coats on the body go to hell, we kicked in the bake cycle and got it out. We put in the hood and doors in and tryed figure out what went wrong. My buddy and I, both body guys, decided that I had my air preasure to low and I was trying to put it on too wet for the first coat. Maybe giving the fish eye too good of a home to live in. So the plan was to put it on kind of dry on the doors and hood, the first coat, then lay it on . It didn't come out so smooth. But I got lots of material on it, and I know how to get rid of orange peel, and I'm a pro of getting runs out, Iv'e had some major practice.

I'm going to sanatize that thing with borax or something, go over it real good with a scuff pad.

Thanks Ron

[fastthings]

Well, things went pretty well at the tuner. I have a couple of things to iron out but all in all a good day. I got 440 to the wheels. Torque starts at 300 2000 rpm, then a nice flat line at 400 pretty much out to 6500. So I guess if you take the 550 horse, at the crank, Trick Flow kit and take off 20% it should put me at 440, so I'm happy. I drove it real quik with my boy, what a hand full. Quarter throtle and it's going bullistic. The idle is sick, very loud.

[Presto51]

What no video :confused:

[fastthings]

What no video :confused:

I'll do it up and get it on their tomorrow. I was busy watching Junior win a race last night:)

[fastthings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJQ8VJxTvY&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[fastthings]

Here it is, the gokart ride. Boy, the video doesn't show the jist of it. When I'm on the road, it's pulling so hard wheels spinning, what a blast.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqThP5Cm6-s&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA&feature=share

[Kempo]

Very cool Gene. You are getting closer to the finish line.

[Pike]

Spinning? Like I said Gene, NO $h1T Sherlock :)

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

sounds great Gene....
I can't believe YOU didn't tighten a hose clamp... :D so,,,, was the go-karting enough of a rush to get you past the paint funks???
that's exactly why I am prone to staying away from the ISIS system... I can't seem to justify the "gizmo factor" over good old tried & true switches...
looks like you will be on the finishing touches just about the time the weather is getting right for cruising....

[Presto51]

Hey Gene looking good man. Great job even with your set backs :cool:

BTW: How does the Mendy shift/feel ?

Are you running traction control ?

Ron

[fastthings]

Spinning? Like I said Gene, NO $h1T Sherlock :)

Well. you can't tell from the video. I was not suprised by tires spinning, I was suprised by how littltle throtle it took.

[fastthings]

sounds great Gene....
I can't believe YOU didn't tighten a hose clamp... :D so,,,, was the go-karting enough of a rush to get you past the paint funks???
that's exactly why I am prone to staying away from the ISIS system... I can't seem to justify the "gizmo factor" over good old tried & true switches...
looks like you will be on the finishing touches just about the time the weather is getting right for cruising....

I can't believe it either. I'm so used to haveing trouble painting, it's a *****, and it will get REdone. Now the ISIS, what the hell, I don't know what happened to that. I am so glad I wired in a key. I sure hope it's done for the spring/summer. I have gone from one project to another for the last 10, 15 years. My family and friends are so used to me saying, no I can't I'm busy trying to get stuff done. I'm sick of it. I'm ready to play!!!

[fastthings]

Hey Gene looking good man. Great job even with your set backs :cool:

BTW: How does the Mendy shift/feel ?

Are you running traction control ?

Ron

Thanks Ron,
The Mendy feels right on the money. Very stiff at first, but I can tell it's working in. I hope I didn't make a mistake getting the 4:11's. I live right next to a track, and I won't be going 200 mph. I have the Race Logic, and I have not turned it on yet to play with it.

[fastthings]

Very cool Gene. You are getting closer to the finish line.



Yes sir, so much closer. So close I can smell the perfume from the girls hanging off it, :)

[posthaste]

Thanks Ron,
The Mendy feels right on the money. Very stiff at first, but I can tell it's working in. I hope I didn't make a mistake getting the 4:11's. I live right next to a track, and I won't be going 200 mph. I have the Race Logic, and I have not turned it on yet to play with it.

Loved the video, great to see you finally get to cart it. I'm really interested to see how the traction control works out, I've seen videos with examples and such, and I know there are a few GTM's with TC by Race Logic around, but I've not seen vids of them....pretty sure I'm not alone when I say I am excited to see it.

Keep a stiff upper lip.

[fastthings]

Loved the video, great to see you finally get to cart it. I'm really interested to see how the traction control works out, I've seen videos with examples and such, and I know there are a few GTM's with TC by Race Logic around, but I've not seen vids of them....pretty sure I'm not alone when I say I am excited to see it.

Keep a stiff upper lip.

Thnaks man,
I can't wait to start testing and adjusting the different systems, and you bet I will show it all.

[fastthings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkLHVPX2L4&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

Head down moving forward.

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

hummmmmm I wonder if that paint demon ate Gene...... it's been a couple weeks since we last heard from him....


& you KNOW it's bad when my girlfriend ask why I have not been watching the latest & greatest "Gennie" vid....

[fastthings]

I'm still alive. Video coming. Call your girl friend,LOL.

[posthaste]

/makes popcorn, puts beer in fridge, calls Dad over.
Can't wait haha

[fastthings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp5o1Dd8HCg&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA&feature=share

This is killing me, alot of work. I's not over till it's over. I won't know if I have to do it over until it's all done.

[Presto51]

When you going to get done

All kidding a side, it's looking real good there.

The GTM has one of the hardest, if not the most difficult bodies to paint. It may be small, but man it's got more curves, rolls, nooks and crannies than you can throw paint at.

Have to ask…..How many adult beverages did you have when you were painting, wet sanding, buffing

Keep up the good work, your almost at the finish line

Ron

[skullandbones]

Hi Gene,

Love the black. I wasn't sure if that was a reflection in one part of your video. That's pretty close to perfect, I think! Looks like a lot of work. I have a couple of questions. Did you use a two stage rubbing compound/polish system? I saw one by Turtle that's supposed to be good. Also, are you using multi-stage grades of paper or just 1500 to cut? Did you use the glazing putty trick to cut down your runs? I heard you say it was very tedious to get them out without over sanding the surrounding area (like "dinosaur bone" extraction). I'm using lacquer for a check coat. Got the worst orange peel I've ever seen!!! Thanks and good luck with the polishing, WEK.

[fastthings]

When you going to get done

All kidding a side, it's looking real good there.

The GTM has one of the hardest, if not the most difficult bodies to paint. It may be small, but man it's got more curves, rolls, nooks and crannies than you can throw paint at.

Have to ask…..How many adult beverages did you have when you were painting, wet sanding, buffing

Keep up the good work, your almost at the finish line

Ron

Ron,
I'm a mess when I paint, run around like a chicken with it's head cutt off. The next day when my brain settled down I rembered my fan went out on the second coat. While I was in the middle of the coat I didn't realize what ws going on until I went back in to check, I couldn't see!! I ran the crap out of it. I had another fan, so that was good.



Hi Gene,

Love the black. I wasn't sure if that was a reflection in one part of your video. That's pretty close to perfect, I think! Looks like a lot of work. I have a couple of questions. Did you use a two stage rubbing compound/polish system? I saw one by Turtle that's supposed to be good. Also, are you using multi-stage grades of paper or just 1500 to cut? Did you use the glazing putty trick to cut down your runs? I heard you say it was very tedious to get them out without over sanding the surrounding area (like "dinosaur bone" extraction). I'm using lacquer for a check coat. Got the worst orange peel I've ever seen!!! Thanks and good luck with the polishing, WEK.

I'm useing 1500 to cutt it down flat and then 2000 before I polish. Then I use a 3M rubbing compound to cut the scratchs and then a glaze polish to get rid of the swirl marks. Also useing different pads with the different compounds. I had lots of orange peel also, thats what I used for a guide coat for removing my runs. I used a real small file, it worked good.

[skullandbones]

I had lots of orange peel also, thats what I used for a guide coat for removing my runs. I used a real small file, it worked good.

Now that "taking lemons and making lemonade!!!". Thanks, WEK.

Note: I'd love to see some of that detail work in a video, you know, in your spare time!

[Presto51]

Ron,
I'm a mess when I paint, run around like a chicken with it's head cutt off. The next day when my brain settled down I rembered my fan went out on the second coat. While I was in the middle of the coat I didn't realize what ws going on until I went back in to check, I couldn't see!! I ran the crap out of it. I had another fan, so that was good.

Gene,

Don't worry about the runs in the paint. I usually tell people when they ask," How come you ran the S**t out of the paint and my answer is, " The runs are there to show that I care enough for the customer to apply more than his fair share of paint to his car" or "I like to give the customer more than what they paid for"

Ron

[fastthings]

Time to end the madness, painting is over, time to move on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRw4j12tqu4&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[Pike]

It's looking damn good!!! I can hear it in a couple of months..."wasn't that bad really" :)

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

I think I would have come to the conclusion that I needed to call it "ok" knowing I would have to re-paint it a long time ago... I'd be toooooooooo anxious to get some shake down & track miles on mine... I am actually planning to put mine in a pretty heavy epoxy primer coat, get it out & put some miles on it... get the bugs worked out, turn some track laps & get as many of the "shake down nicks & scrapes" out of the way before I put the finish paint on her....

[kabacj]

Gene,

I love black. Its painfully hard to get a super perfect job, but boy it looks great.

I can see how well you perfected all the panels. The car is going to be a stunner!


Hey look at it this way. your paint is nicer then 99% of street cars out there. Only top quality show cars might be better. Trailer queens are nice, but the GTM needs to be driven! You have the perfect paint for the aplication.

I hope I can make my car look that nice some day.

John

[skullandbones]

If someone told me I would cause gouges in paint with 1500 paper on block I would have called them crazy but you explained it pretty well. Damn!!!

Thanks,

WEK.

[fastthings]

It's looking damn good!!! I can hear it in a couple of months..."wasn't that bad really" :)

So true, it's funny how time heals the pian.


I think I would have come to the conclusion that I needed to call it "ok" knowing I would have to re-paint it a long time ago... I'd be toooooooooo anxious to get some shake down & track miles on mine... I am actually planning to put mine in a pretty heavy epoxy primer coat, get it out & put some miles on it... get the bugs worked out, turn some track laps & get as many of the "shake down nicks & scrapes" out of the way before I put the finish paint on her....

I kind of like it when I'm the first to put a scratch or dent in a new paint job, then I can quit worrying about someone else being the first.:)


Gene,

I love black. Its painfully hard to get a super perfect job, but boy it looks great.

I can see how well you perfected all the panels. The car is going to be a stunner!


Hey look at it this way. your paint is nicer then 99% of street cars out there. Only top quality show cars might be better. Trailer queens are nice, but the GTM needs to be driven! You have the perfect paint for the aplication.

I hope I can make my car look that nice some day.

John

Thanks John, your car deserves a top notch paint job, knowing you, you will perfect that also.


If someone told me I would cause gouges in paint with 1500 paper on block I would have called them crazy but you explained it pretty well. Damn!!!

Thanks,

WEK.

True, but keep in mind this is an exception not a rule. White, on the other hand will show nothing. Different colors will show more. And if I would have left some orange peel, 1500 would have been fine. But on black, sanded down that flat, it all shows.

[fastthings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED2UpKTYUQE&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

Lots going on in life right now, so slow going on the GTM. But it is still in progress, looking at the dash area now.

[Shawn K]

Gene, your car will be one fine automobile when you are finished. Wish I had the money so my boy and I could build this car.

[fastthings]

Gene, your car will be one fine automobile when you are finished. Wish I had the money so my boy and I could build this car.

Thanks Shawn, the money part is tough. Good luck to you, and I hope the cards of life line up for you to get it done.

[carbon fiber]

Gene you're so close! I'm looking forward to seeing it driving in videos, and you with a big grin on your face. Thanks for documenting the process in such detail, it's something that helps people see what's involved with actually building a GTM.

[fastthings]

Thanks, even I am amazed at the amount of work, and the time to do it. Just a few more little things to wrap up, the dash is the big one.

[fastthings]

Still amazed on the amout of work, I had alot of film so I cut it into 2 vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8IOw2oNEoo&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA&index=1

[fastthings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G9rq3CJx9k&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[VD2021]

Gene,
I watched your latest video and wanted to pass on some tips for your console project.

Covering the piece…. Unless you have some special tooling to form the material and accounted for the material thickness during the mold process, you will not be able to successfully cover the tablet pocket you’ve created. I would prep and paint that area or the entire piece. With your skills I’m sure it would turn our very nice.

Since you want to keep the tablet removable, you have to address how it will stay in the pocket until you are ready to remove it. Magnets! Scosche makes a nice magnetic mount that works well for this type of setup. http://www.scosche.com/mounts/mmsurface
One removal option is to create a place, on the side of your pocket, for your finger to grip the side for removal of the tablet.

[fastthings]

Nice tips, I saw guys using the magnets. I haven't got to the type of covering yet, but yes, I will need to allow tollerence for any thickness of material, also tucked in around the ISIS.

I had to get a different Tab, the Tab4 does not have MHL, I got the Tab pro 8.4, it does. I like it better anyway, but I will have to redo the cradle. I am also going to add a spot for RL controller, Audison remote controller, and the display/controller for the Passport 9500ci.

I like the finger spot idea to get the tab out, thanks.

* The tab has the metal for the magnet in kind of a strange spot for what I need, but I still may install one anyway, it would help.

[Shawn K]

Gene are we close to a full car to drive on the streets?

[fastthings]

Gene are we close to a full car to drive on the streets?

Not even Shawn, Summer is kind of slow for me on the build. Buisness travel, family, ballgames, lawn, but I still get some time in. I am setting up the wires for the radar, stereo, and a harness for all the stuff in the console. I'll get as much done as I can before I put the body on.

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

hummmm.... I wonder if my girlfriend has gotten into the idea of me building a GTM or if she is just into Gene's videos....
I started reading through the latest forum post just now, she looked over at me & says "you need to drop "GENNIE" a note to see what else he has gotten done, I haven't seen a new vid from him in like a month"...

[fastthings]

LOL, I'll get on it. I was in Texas last week, went to Gillies. Woeking on the stereo, radar, and console.

[Presto51]

LOL, I'll get on it. I was in Texas last week, went to Gillies. Woeking on the stereo, radar, and console.

Man you must have had a great time at Gillies :rolleyes:

Ron

[fastthings]

Man you must have had a great time at Gillies :rolleyes:

Ron

It was funnier than stink. I was at a national convention and I got to watch people ride the bull and get a tatoo, that should not have.

[crash]

It was funnier than stink. I was at a national convention and I got to watch people ride the bull and get a tatoo, that should not have.

So what's you new tat look like?

[fastthings]

So what's you new tat look like?

I was so glad it washed off.

[Presto51]

So what's you new tat look like?

Now that's funny

Ron

[fastthings]

When will this thing quit requiring so much work, it never ends.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmZnNd4sepk&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA&feature=share

[fastthings]

New vid, making some progress.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J28gli7DYE&feature=share&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[Shawn K]

Looking good gene!

[LCD Gauges]

Absolutely nuts! I can't decide on my favourite interior any more; this car is going to be amazing.

Gene, how many jobs do I need to keep up with all of these upgrades? :D

[fastthings]

Absolutely nuts! I can't decide on my favourite interior any more; this car is going to be amazing.

Gene, how many jobs do I need to keep up with all of these upgrades? :D

Thanks man,
Wich upgrade, the trim ring was made out of scrap, and the console, I used sticks, cardboard, and fiberglass. But ya, I had to pay money for the electronics. Thanks again, I'm happy with how it's turning out.

[pmmjarrett]

WOW.

Just finished a week long marathon from the first video. This project may not be going as fast as you'd hoped but she's gonna be absolutely stunning when you are done.

As I watched the last few videos when you were fabricating the new console and installing components for a very high end sound system and all the other toys you have crammed in there I remember you saying something about leaving the stock interior as it came from FFR. With the dash vinyl bubbling and the heavily modified center console, you might as well go for it now with a high end interior and a lot of sound deadening to match the caliber of the rest of the car.


I must admit that I watched in horror LOL as you laid down hundreds of miles of wiring and stuffed it into every nook and cranny of the car. Boy how I long for another completely analog car with the only thing electronic being the stereo.... Hmmmm probably showing my age now LOL

Well done sir.
Mike

[fastthings]

WOW.

Just finished a week long marathon from the first video. This project may not be going as fast as you'd hoped but she's gonna be absolutely stunning when you are done.

As I watched the last few videos when you were fabricating the new console and installing components for a very high end sound system and all the other toys you have crammed in there I remember you saying something about leaving the stock interior as it came from FFR. With the dash vinyl bubbling and the heavily modified center console, you might as well go for it now with a high end interior and a lot of sound deadening to match the caliber of the rest of the car.


I must admit that I watched in horror LOL as you laid down hundreds of miles of wiring and stuffed it into every nook and cranny of the car. Boy how I long for another completely analog car with the only thing electronic being the stereo.... Hmmmm probably showing my age now LOL

Well done sir.
Mike

Thanks man,
I bet you are sick of my voice, LOL.

[pmmjarrett]

Thanks man,
I bet you are sick of my voice, LOL.

Nope. I'm looking forward to hearing it again.

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/S0adFLGc0Cw?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

Glad to have my traction control, under control. I think I can move on and finish it up.

[Motohead]

Very cool Gene! I can hear the excitment in your voice. You're getting so close. You just went bye me like I was standing still. Well, I am standing still. Too much work and not enough play for me. Your build is over the top! Can't wait to see a video of you, with a big smile, cruising that baby down the road.
Keep going man! I'm rite behind you.
Tim Sharp GTM #59

[fastthings]

Very cool Gene! I can hear the excitment in your voice. You're getting so close. You just went bye me like I was standing still. Well, I am standing still. Too much work and not enough play for me. Your build is over the top! Can't wait to see a video of you, with a big smile, cruising that baby down the road.
Keep going man! I'm rite behind you.
Tim Sharp GTM #59
Thanks Tim, your car looks nice. I'm really into the black wheels these days.

[fastthings]

Slow, but sure.

http://youtu.be/6Ke54SNtZ4E?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[Kempo]

Looking good Gene!! You are almost there.

[fastthings]

Thanks Kempo, damn near, looks like i'll aim for next spring.:)

Here is #64, I had no idea it would go on this long.


http://youtu.be/fWokgjizafw

[RF RIDER]

Gene;

nice job, great video on the final stages before body goes on. One question though. those inner fender panels that you install on the rear, will they not get in the way when trying to install the body. Also the front close out panels just under the windshield area too.

keep up the good work. looking forward to see the body on.

[fastthings]

Only the ones that are right in front of the rear tire are in the way. I have them set up to come on and off with bolts, that way I can get in there and service things. But remember I installed those after I put the body on for the first time. The fact that I had everything trimmed and set up prior let me have all the other on with no problem. The body rested on them just like it was meant to be.

[kabacj]

Here is #64, I had no idea it would go on this long.



Gene look at it this way. You are building a one of a kind super car where every detail is a hand built piece of art.

It's worth the time. As every GTM driver will tell you the compliments you will get don't stop. It's a really fun car to own.

I'm looking to be done in the spring too :)

[Presto51]

Gene look at it this way. You are building a one of a kind super car where every detail is a hand built piece of art.

It's worth the time. As every GTM driver will tell you the compliments you will get don't stop. It's a really fun car to own.

I'm looking to be done in the spring too :)

John is there ever a time that it's really done ? :rolleyes:

Ron

[fastthings]

I hope for the end so bad, but still have not even come close to it, as I plan things in my head. I just noticed, I'm at 3 years now. I remember when I ordered the kit I was thinking I would have the body done in 6 months, and the chasis done in 6 months, and that I would spend zero time on the interior.

[Presto51]

I hope for the end so bad, but still have not even come close to it, as I plan things in my head. I just noticed, I'm at 3 years now. I remember when I ordered the kit I was thinking I would have the body done in 6 months, and the chasis done in 6 months, and that I would spend zero time on the interior.

Then the Project Enhancement Brothers showed up at your door to help you with the build.

I had them show up on a project I did once, when they asked what time frame I was looking at, the one brother, I believe his name was Fricken Enhancement, laugh and said, Here’s Your Sign

Once you run them off, you’ll get done, and on the road before you know it, just keep plugging away, and just remember, you are building an eye opening, jaw dropping supercar

Ron

[fastthings]

I got the body on.

http://youtu.be/rJ9SvuAUEW4?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[Presto51]

Looks good Gene, now get off your Arse, put some shoes on, stop day dreaming so much and GET-ER-DONE!! :cool:

Ron

[fastthings]

LOL, probably the only selfie you will see me take, I hate wearing shoes. It's going together well, little by little.

[LCD Gauges]

Wow, what a sweet job! I vote for leaving the license plate intact, and making it easily removed. I'm not sure if it's legal to drill into your license plate,
but for what it's worth, I think it will look cleaner than having a hole there!

Congrats Gene, that body looks straight, and wave free!

[fastthings]

Wow, what a sweet job! I vote for leaving the license plate intact, and making it easily removed. I'm not sure if it's legal to drill into your license plate,
but for what it's worth, I think it will look cleaner than having a hole there!

Congrats Gene, that body looks straight, and wave free!


Thanks Tino,
your right, it is a no,no, to deface the plate. I think I can get away with the camera on the top, but the bottom hole I think would be too noticeable. So I may end up making it removable.
I want to make a little stash for my tie downs and toe hooks, and always have them in the car, I could even have a wrench stored also to use for the plate removal.

[fuggles]

It may be too late, but you could hinge the plate like old school 60's cars. That way you don't have to remove it. I suppose it could rattle, not good.

[fastthings]

It may be too late, but you could hinge the plate like old school 60's cars. That way you don't have to remove it. I suppose it could rattle, not good.

I wouldn't be opposed to such an idea, but not at this stage. That would be something I would do at the bodywork stage. I would have hidden the hinge.

And, for sure, ZERO rattles. I won't have it.

[fastthings]

#66 I got to drive it some, what a beast. The torque is going to be fun.

http://youtu.be/ifcIMHcQANs?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[fastthings]

Hey guys, what part do I need for the rear hatch release cable?

[Motohead]

Hey guys, what part do I need for the rear hatch release cable?

I think I have a new complete rear hatch release cable that I'm not going to use. You pay for the shipping and you can have it.
Let me know.
Tim Sharp GTM #59

[Motohead]

WAIT! Forget the shipping. Someone on the forum sent me a set of wheel spacers for my rear wheels and never accepted any payment. Now I'm going to return the favor to the GTM gang.
Just PM me your address and I'll send it to you, no problem.
One of your "GTM" brothers, Tim Sharp GTM #59

[fastthings]

WAIT! Forget the shipping. Someone on the forum sent me a set of wheel spacers for my rear wheels and never accepted any payment. Now I'm going to return the favor to the GTM gang.
Just PM me your address and I'll send it to you, no problem.
One of your "GTM" brothers, Tim Sharp GTM #59

Well thank you, I appriciate that. I've done the same for others, it is kind of a "pay it forward" community.

Thank you brother

[Shawn K]

Gene your car is beautiful. Glad to see it almost finished. But on the other hand, I am sad to see it finished. There will be no more videos beening made, that so many of us look forward to watching.

[fastthings]

Gene your car is beautiful. Glad to see it almost finished. But on the other hand, I am sad to see it finished. There will be no more videos beening made, that so many of us look forward to watching.

Thanks Shawn, you will be surprised to find how long the rest of it will drag out, lol, I'm good at that. I still have lots to do to finish, and I have a feeling the videos will continue after the build portion.

[Fraser D]

Thanks Shawn, you will be surprised to find how long the rest of it will drag out, lol, I'm good at that. I still have lots to do to finish, and I have a feeling the videos will continue after the build portion.

Road trip Vids!!!! :-)

[fastthings]

Road trip Vids!!!! :-)

Yes, I hope so bad to have a reliable car that I can take off in and make it home. I have a reunion next summer I would like to goto. I already have it figured , I will have to UPS my bags. And take runs with the local Cobra guys.

[Fraser D]

Gene, you just need one of these for road trips:D

[fastthings]

Gene, you just need one of these for road trips:D


Yah, that looks nice. I am going to do a box above the battery. It will be small, but we'll see.

[fuggles]

Random question. What laser level are you using to level the body?

[fastthings]

Random question. What laser level are you using to level the body?
It's just a Craftsman, nothing special.

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/GxKuMUZ9wLM?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA
Well I have until Feb for the first show, quite alot to do really.

[Shawn K]

Looking good Gene!

[fastthings]

Thanks Shawn, I have been in such a lazy mood this month, I need to kick it in the as.

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/Qmzosom65SM

I got a couple more things done.

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

looking good .... those tail lights are tooooooooo coooooool....:cool:

my girlfriend has been on my case about why I have not been spending any time lately keeping up with "GENIE".... :eek: she will be tickled that you have posted a new video...

[fastthings]

Thanks Fugly,
How is your dream going, how close are you to ordering a kit?
I would think at this stage I would be working all night to get it done, but I find myself really haveing to be pushed to get out there. I have a show the first week in Feb.

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

Gene, it's still going to be a while before I can order my kit... I got a donor (2008 LS7 ZO6 with only 17,000 miles, looks like it did an impression of a pin-ball off those concrete "Jersey Walls" that DOT has taken to lining the hiways with) but have not been able to add much into the "Mason Jar" build fund lately due to other life issues... it's gonna happen, just taking more time than I would like...

[LCD Gauges]

Loving the LED lights too! The chase sequence is really cool, and unique.

It's like the saying goes; the back end has to look the best, because that's what everyone will be staring at most of the time.

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

Gene,
my girlfriend says you are going to have to get on the stick.... she does not like having to wait months between updates & new videos... but she LOVES the burst brake lights...
(I think you have created a monster)...

[fastthings]

LOL, I know I really went threw a lazy spot.

Don't the tail lights look so good, I ran a wire up front to hook into the launch control button, it provides a ramdom light show for a couple seconds.

I got the nose wired up this weekend, so now I have head lights.

[The Stig]

Hi Gene,

I spent some time going back through this build log, and watching your videos again. What a tremendous gift you're providing for current builders and those who are considering a GTM build!

Very nice stuff, and very much appreciated by myself and everyone here.

Thank you!

Mike

[AGH]

Gene,

I want to second Mikes comments.

I'm in the middle of my build now and continue to refer to your videos to get an idea of the pitfalls that await! Made a few of the mistakes you made before I started watching. Example, I fit the hatch almost exactly the way you did BEFORE I checked the glass fit and had to rebuild the edges. Watching the videos ahead of time will prevent mistakes like that!

Knee deep in fiberglass dust at the moment cutting, glassing, grinding and have gleaned some useful tips from your techniques. I'm bad about just taking pictures and posting my progress, let alone taking the time to film a video.

So, I also thank you for taking so much time to share your build.

Aaron
GTM #403

[fastthings]

Thanks guys

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/7Dx-JbA_xWQ
So much closer.

[fastthings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeV6WgzUVTU&list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA


Working on the dash now.

[Kempo]

Looking good Gene. You have made a lot of progress in the last few weeks. I really like the look of the all black car. Take notice that the dash needs to sit on top of the body on the front edge under the windshield. If you leave it under the body you will be looking at that edge on top of the dash each time you use the car. Not a pretty sight.

[fastthings]

Looking good Gene. You have made a lot of progress in the last few weeks. I really like the look of the all black car. Take notice that the dash needs to sit on top of the body on the front edge under the windshield. If you leave it under the body you will be looking at that edge on top of the dash each time you use the car. Not a pretty sight.

Oh shiet, I'll have to look into that. I see what your'e saying. That meens I'll have to redo the edge up against the glass to make it look nice.

Thanks Hugo, nice save.
Gota love this forum:)

[mikespms]

Hey Gene,

I made metal clips to attach under the edge of the dash,center and on both sides that clips the dash to the lip of the body and glued 1/8" black rubber padding to the edge of the body to absorb any squeaks and vibrations. The dash snaps over the edge of the body to lock in place.3683336834

[fastthings]

Good idea mike, I was thinking I would just make it pinch inbetween the glass and the body. I'll see how it goes.

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/tmobnI3Fff4?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA
I'm happy with how the dash came out, on to the kick pannels.

[Taz Rules]

Damn, Gene...
You're pumping them out faster than I can keep up!!!!

Nice work. I bet you're glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel!

[fastthings]

Damn, Gene...
You're pumping them out faster than I can keep up!!!!

Nice work. I bet you're glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel!

Not easy is it

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/nx9t0ZLdDiE

Interior is starting to take shape.

[kabacj]

Excellent work Gene! Wow that was a lot of work. Howevver the progress is outstanding. It's so hard to make things look like they came that way out of the box. My measure of success is when you can't tell what was added or changed. Of course if you see a before and after its obvious but when you just show the after and folks don't see the before its impossible to see what was changed. Well done.

[fastthings]

Excellent work Gene! Wow that was a lot of work. Howevver the progress is outstanding. It's so hard to make things look like they came that way out of the box. My measure of success is when you can't tell what was added or changed. Of course if you see a before and after its obvious but when you just show the after and folks don't see the before its impossible to see what was changed. Well done.

Thanks man,
Every time I see you commented to my thread I wonder what I need to change now, lol. I got away with it this time.

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/TZiRWA8KJwg

I have been busy, trying to get this thing done. I keep adding more work.

[Shawn K]

Looking very good gene! Soon it will be done.

[fastthings]

Thanks Shawn, I hope so.


Vidal,
I responded to your comment on youtube, but not directly. Your profile is set so I can't respond.

[Motohead]

Incredible work Gene. I'm around the same spot of the build on my GTM. The hardest part for me is knowing where to draw the line. I want it to be nice but I just don't want to work on this thing for another year. If I try to keep up with your quality of build, I will never finish. Your Crazy!
Thanks for taking the time to make, and post, these videos. As much as it hurts for me to watch, they are very informative for me and future builders.
I look forward to seeing your car get done, even if it's before I get done.

Sorry for the crapy spelling. I'm super tiered too.

[tanderson1]

I know many have said it before but thanks for putting these videos out. I look forward to watching them. :-)

I find your attention to detail amazing, I can only hope that my finished product look 1/16th as good.

[fastthings]

Incredible work Gene. I'm around the same spot of the build on my GTM. The hardest part for me is knowing where to draw the line. I want it to be nice but I just don't want to work on this thing for another year. If I try to keep up with your quality of build, I will never finish. Your Crazy!
Thanks for taking the time to make, and post, these videos. As much as it hurts for me to watch, they are very informative for me and future builders.
I look forward to seeing your car get done, even if it's before I get done.

Sorry for the crapy spelling. I'm super tiered too.

LOL, that's funny. I'm having fun with the youtube thing, it's my pleasure.
Thanks for the comments.

[fastthings]

I know many have said it before but thanks for putting these videos out. I look forward to watching them. :-)

I find your attention to detail amazing, I can only hope that my finished product look 1/16th as good.

Plan your work, and work your plan. I'm watching your build, I cringe at the point your at, just starting, cleaning susp parts. Lots of work ahead of you. These cars come out looking amazing no matter what you throw at them, you'll be fine.

Thanks

[fastthings]

http://youtu.be/cXUY7cGUt8U?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

Man, oh, man, I have been busy. I even spent 4 days in Michigan, frickin cold over there.

[mikespms]

Hey Gene,
Very nice work as usual,don't know if you are done with your interior you were talking about tight coat for finishing your glass work. Duratec surfacing gel coat sprayed with a 2.5mm tip gun works well and it is easy to sand and it fills all the little pin holes. A quart of duratec goes a long way and you can get a 2.5mm gun on ebay under $30.00 dollars.

[fastthings]

I will have to check that stuff out Mike, thanks.

For know I'm learning how to hydrodip, kind of a tricky learning curve, but it's looking pretty good.


https://youtu.be/dI3sknVdh7Q?list=UUUGm49lOviicv8vE8zoWZoA

[Presto51]

Gene the dipping looks good and a nice touch :cool:

BTW: Hurry up and Get-Er-Done :rolleyes:

Ron

[fastthings]

Gene the dipping looks good and a nice touch :cool:

BTW: Hurry up and Get-Er-Done :rolleyes:

Ron

Thanks Ron, boy I'm trying to get this thing done, spring is hear. I feel I have to have a summer that I'm not working on a car, I' sick of it. I also have a Ford pickup I need to do a head job on...

[tanderson1]

I will have to check that stuff out Mike, thanks.

For know I'm learning how to hydrodip, kind of a tricky learning curve, but it's looking pretty good.

That looks great. I was wondering how you were going to finish off the interior pieces. I plan to fiberglass some of the portions of the dash, this may be a good option.

[fastthings]

That looks great. I was wondering how you were going to finish off the interior pieces. I plan to fiberglass some of the portions of the dash, this may be a good option.

So far the glass work on the plastic dash parts is holding, no problem.

Still going,

https://youtu.be/s2-7YK6aDjU

[tanderson1]

that red strip looks sweet..... I cant wait to see what It looks like installed.

[Shawn K]

Gene I think your interior is looking great!

[fastthings]

Thanks guys,
I've been so busy I forgot to post my last video.

https://youtu.be/Omm5R0xoVA8

[Nitetrain]

Amazing job! I love the fact that you really thought out every detail. I look forward to seeing the final video.

[fastthings]

I love the fact that you really thought out every detail.

But I didn't, and that all takes more time. Things that I add on as I go, I want integrated also. It's driving me nuts, and yes I am almost done.
Thanks man

[Erik W. Treves]

What did you use to bond the dash back together? And what filler did you use?

[fastthings]

What did you use to bond the dash back together? And what filler did you use?
Same thing as what I used on the body, fiberglass, bondo, and primer. None of it is made for plastic, but if it sticks it sticks. The fiberglass does bond to it pretty well, so did the bondo and primer.
Products are available for plastics, but none of stuff I did is structural, so no big deal.

[Erik W. Treves]

hmm....ok...well that makes it simple.

[fastthings]

hmm....ok...well that makes it simple.

Yes, use at your own risk. Test a piece, put some glass on it and see if it holds good enough for you.

[fastthings]

https://youtu.be/tFAsClK040I

I am almost done, one more should do it.

[tanderson1]

I have been watching your video's from the beginning and I just noticed that in video 27 at 9:10 you say "I'm not really going for a high end interior".... I guess you changed your mind :-)

You have one of the most "high end" interiors I have ever seen, and that includes production cars. :-)

Great Job!

[fastthings]

I have been watching your video's from the beginning and I just noticed that in video 27 at 9:10 you say "I'm not really going for a high end interior".... I guess you changed your mind :-)

You have one of the most "high end" interiors I have ever seen, and that includes production cars. :-)

Great Job!

LOL, I did say that didn't I. Well, one thing leads to another.
Thanks

[The Stig]

LOL, I did say that didn't I. Well, one thing leads to another.
Thanks

And you said that you would have to come and hunt me down... :cool:

Great work!
Mike

[fastthings]

And you said that you would have to come and hunt me down... :cool:

Great work!
Mike
I know, you did this to me.:) My buddy in the stereo shop still talks about your car, he sees it on facebook. Your car has status.

Thanks Mike

[Edgeman]

Gene, Awesome job man.

[fastthings]

Gene, Awesome job man.

Thanks, it's coming.

Hey, could someone tell me what part I need to hook up my horn. I see a few different aftermarket horn wires, not sure what I need. It is the wire from the column to the wheel.

[mikespms]

Hey Gene,
The factory five wheel came with the jumper wire to connect the horn button to the column,it was in the box with the steering wheel.

[fastthings]

Hey Gene,
The factory five wheel came with the jumper wire to connect the horn button to the column,it was in the box with the steering wheel.

OK, I see the wire, I guess I don't know where to hook it up. I thought I was looking for the old style spring with the push in and twist post.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bsp-rp2510?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKEAjw96aqBRDNhM6MtJfE-wYSJADiMfggjKAH5uUAsu2nGMi-Ye7PrONXXWqZFI0yGkuHq2jghhoC-dLw_wcB

[fastthings]

https://youtu.be/trSUIRpgVfE

Looks like video 80 is what it takes to finnish my GTM, this one is 79. Also looks like I need to put head gaskets on my 6.0 ford before I can goto the car show.

[fastthings]

https://youtu.be/dN0enHEH3q0

I'm done with the build log. I will continue to do video updates as things go along. I made it to the local car show, it was amazing. Over 400 cars showed up, so many people.
Everyone was amazed at the car, I spoke to over 500 people, I'm sure. Still lots to do, but I feel like I made it.

I will do a proper walk around, and some photos. One of those things to do, before something happens!!

[kabacj]

Very well done Gene. You should be proud.

Take some pics and video of the cherry finished product.... Then drive it like you stole it!

[The Stig]

https://youtu.be/dN0enHEH3q0

I'm done with the build log. I will continue to do video updates as things go along. I made it to the local car show, it was amazing. Over 400 cars showed up, so many people.
Everyone was amazed at the car, I spoke to over 500 people, I'm sure. Still lots to do, but I feel like I made it.

I will do a proper walk around, and some photos. One of those things to do, before something happens!!

Congrats Gene! It has been fun following you through this build. Your video documentation has been a tremendous help to everyone who has watched. There has always been something that we could learn and look for in our own builds.

Thank you. Now enjoy you car!

Mike

[fastthings]

Very well done Gene. You should be proud.

Take some pics and video of the cherry finished product.... Then drive it like you stole it!

Thanks, and yes sir, I am on it. I can't wait to pick your brain setting things up.

[fastthings]

Congrats Gene! It has been fun following you through this build. Your video documentation has been a tremendous help to everyone who has watched. There has always been something that we could learn and look for in our own builds.

Thank you. Now enjoy you car!

Mike

Thank you Mike,
you more than any can relate to the emotions it takes to complete a dream, it's hard core.
For some reason this car really makes you earn it, and I'm really not sure why. The thing that continually shocked me about this build is how I misjudged the time it took me to do each little thing.
It is so hard to stay on something and finnish it, that keeps fighting you.

[Kempo]

Congratulations on a job well done Gene!!! You have a top notch example of what a GTM can be. Hope you enjoy diving it as much as you did building it.

[fastthings]

Here is some of the local car show.

https://youtu.be/IB9R8rmiJtY

[The Stig]

Thank you Mike,
you more than any can relate to the emotions it takes to complete a dream, it's hard core.
For some reason this car really makes you earn it, and I'm really not sure why. The thing that continually shocked me about this build is how I misjudged the time it took me to do each little thing.
It is so hard to stay on something and finnish it, that keeps fighting you.

Gene... I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe the GTM more perfectly...! It MAKES you EARN it!

Well Sir, you've certainly earned yours.

Mike

[fastthings]

Congratulations on a job well done Gene!!! You have a top notch example of what a GTM can be. Hope you enjoy diving it as much as you did building it.

Thanks Hugo, you know, at the beginning you where my inspiration. I hope your car is still giving you no issues.

[fastthings]

Gene... I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe the GTM more perfectly...! It MAKES you EARN it!

Well Sir, you've certainly earned yours.

Mike

Again thanks, God bless us all, we go threw a lot.

[Fraser D]

Again thanks, God bless us all, we go threw a lot.

I am still looking for the dam like button! :-)

[fastthings]

https://youtu.be/LZYjFC67qd0

I ended up at 2700lbs, 60/40 split rear to front. I split the weight side to side, cross weight is at 50%. with me in it.
Camber is about -3/4 front and rear. Caster is equal at about 4.5 I think. One side started at 8, thats why it wanted to dart into the ditch, and the cross weight was way off.
It feels real good now.
If you guys want to hear what the wind whistle sounds like with Shanes grill, you can hear it in the video. Not sure what I will do about that.
I finally got the people at the DOL to find the right button to push, I have my plates!!! NO inspection, NO imissions, the only receipt I needed was the invoice from FFR. Love that lady:)

[Kalstar]

https://youtu.be/LZYjFC67qd0

I ended up at 2700lbs, 60/40 split rear to front. I split the weight side to side, cross weight is at 50%. with me in it.
Camber is about -3/4 front and rear. Caster is equal at about 4.5 I think. One side started at 8, thats why it wanted to dart into the ditch, and the cross weight was way off.
It feels real good now.
If you guys want to hear what the wind whistle sounds like with Shanes grill, you can hear it in the video. Not sure what I will do about that.
I finally got the people at the DOL to find the right button to push, I have my plates!!! NO inspection, NO imissions, the only receipt I needed was the invoice from FFR. Love that lady:)

Sounds fantastic!

[fastthings]

Sounds fantastic!

Thanks man

[mikespms]

Hey Gene,

Congratulations on an awesome build ,the car looks and sounds great!

I got my plates a couple of weeks ago and still working on a few details and issues. I used the same alignment settings as you just a little more caster and weight in at 2690 with low fuel same balance as well it felt very stable. I changed the ride height a 1/4"and doing hole shots and hitting the gears change the rear camber settings making the car very squarely not a good thing. The stock camber bolts don't hold well under extreme conditions. I had made a set of camber plates and was waiting to find the right set up before installing them, I set the front bump steer and need to do the rear bump steer before the final alignment.

[Kalstar]

I had mine weighed again this past weekend. Came in at 2480 with about 8 galloons of fuel. I have minimal sound insulation (spray on from GTMatt) no wipers or motors, no door glass or power window motors and ultra light weight 18" wheels and tires. It had weighed in at 2247 when I first started to drive it (be it with about 1cup of gas in he tank at the grain scale, missing a few things like splitter, rockers, seat belts and the other stuff mentioned above) but I thought is was too low figuring others were coming in at 2600 +/- . The new weight of 2480lbs seems far more accurate, even if nearly 60lbs of that is the extra gas. Still happy I made it under 2500lbs, not so sure if I would with door glass and motors installed though. Still not sure why I am 200lbs lighter then you guys??

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

kick arse job Gene... I just saw your after alignment video.... I'm curious....is it just me, or is it maybe your speedometer needs recalibrating??? (cuz it "looked" to me like you were going wayyyyyy faster than the posted 25 & 35 MPH speed limits....) of course a GTM looks like it's going fast when it's sitting still...

[fastthings]

Hey Gene,

Congratulations on an awesome build ,the car looks and sounds great!

I got my plates a couple of weeks ago and still working on a few details and issues. I used the same alignment settings as you just a little more caster and weight in at 2690 with low fuel same balance as well it felt very stable. I changed the ride height a 1/4"and doing hole shots and hitting the gears change the rear camber settings making the car very squarely not a good thing. The stock camber bolts don't hold well under extreme conditions. I had made a set of camber plates and was waiting to find the right set up before installing them, I set the front bump steer and need to do the rear bump steer before the final alignment.
Thanks Mike, looks like we're going threw some of the same stuff. I still need to install the alignment plates I got from Crash, before it slips out of adjustment. And I plan on buying the bumpsteer tool to get that set up.


I had mine weighed again this past weekend. Came in at 2480 with about 8 galloons of fuel. I have minimal sound insulation (spray on from GTMatt) no wipers or motors, no door glass or power window motors and ultra light weight 18" wheels and tires. It had weighed in at 2247 when I first started to drive it (be it with about 1cup of gas in he tank at the grain scale, missing a few things like splitter, rockers, seat belts and the other stuff mentioned above) but I thought is was too low figuring others were coming in at 2600 +/- . The new weight of 2480lbs seems far more accurate, even if nearly 60lbs of that is the extra gas. Still happy I made it under 2500lbs, not so sure if I would with door glass and motors installed though. Still not sure why I am 200lbs lighter then you guys??
200 lb.'s of interior, other than that I'm not sure what the difference would be. The dyno mat stuff I used, weighed a lot. I did add some weight. That puts me at about 1 hp for 5 lb.'s


kick arse job Gene... I just saw your after alignment video.... I'm curious....is it just me, or is it maybe your speedometer needs recalibrating??? (cuz it "looked" to me like you were going wayyyyyy faster than the posted 25 & 35 MPH speed limits....) of course a GTM looks like it's going fast when it's sitting still...
I knew someone would see that. And yah, I'm still reading 0 on the speedo, so I'm good. Besides the Coyotes and Deer really don't care. Hell, 15 more miles into the woods and drinking and driving is still legal. I hear auto machine gun fire, in the woods. My neighbor rides his quad by my house with his AR on his back, I love where I live.
Thanks man

[LCD Gauges]

There's nothing to worry about, Gene's car tops out at 34.99 MPH. :cool:

[The Stig]

There's nothing to worry about, Gene's car tops out at 34.99 MPH. :cool:

But it gets there in 1.5 seconds!!! :cool:

[fastthings]

Well, I hope to continue my good record of 0 tickets.
I don't know if I told you guys, but I have my plates now. I need to get some insurance, then I will take it out for some shake down runs.

Do you guys remember hearing the whistle from my front grill, in that last video. I have to do something about that, I wonder what that may be?? Any suggestions?

[Presto51]

Gene,

Reach out to RumRunner.

He had Shane's front grill, and it whistled at certain speeds. He did a modification that stopped it, not sure exactly what he did, but it's not too involved if I remember correctly.

Ron

[fastthings]

I thank you Ron.

[Presto51]

Gene I just came across this post http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?14646-Notice-All-Who-Purchased-LED-Taillight-Mount-Kit-or-Gen-II-Front-Grille&highlight=GTM+grill

Hope it helps

Ron

[Edgeman]

I have Shane's front grill and have not experience this whistle. I put it together with panel bonding, only on the bottom side. Then painted it with black spray paint. Put the thing in straight and that was it. I see you put in a camera and cut the fins. Mike also had done that, so I am not to sure if that has something to do with the whistle.

[fastthings]

thanks guys

[fastthings]

Hey guys, I am having trouble calibrating my fuel and speedo gage, most likely two different issues. I'm more concerned about the fuel, I have ran out a couple times.
I get a floating needle, it did that right from the start. I have calibrated the empty and full points. Read the directions and watched Speed Huts video.
I check ohms behind the gage at empty, 226. I fill the tanks and still get 226. I check at the sender and get 226. I can ground to the frame and still 226.
Is my sender bad?
What so you guys think.

The speedo wonders around also, I have calibrated it 3 times. Maybe my sender is to far away and not completely centered. Is it that critical?

[LCD Gauges]

You are probably measuring the wrong two wires on the sender. You need to find the "wiper" wire of the sender which indicates the float pisition.

It seems like you are measuring the two wires that span the entire resistor.

[fastthings]

Interesting, I thought I checked different combos, I'll check again.
I have 3 posts, I can't see the top to read. I have one wire in the middle, and one to the left.
And I have the aluminum tanks.
Any suggestions?

I was hoping you would chime in,
Thanks

[LCD Gauges]

This is similar to your float wiring. You need to find the middle wire that moves with the float.


43561
43562

[fastthings]

thanks I'll check it out. I hope the sender is not bound up from shipping and that. I guess I should have checked before the install.

[Edgeman]

Ron's tanks calls to have 12v power connected. I am sure you did that. Tino it has a different style of a sender in it than you posted, not sure if it acts the same way.

[fastthings]

Sender is rated 15 to 160 ohms, the post on the left is labeled sender-white wire. Center post labeled ground-black wire. Right post labeled positive -empty.
the only combo I can get a reading on.
it reads 226, over the rated specs.
not sure what to think, bad sender ?

[Edgeman]

You have 12v power connected to the right one? I had the same problem untill I connected the 12 power to it, would not read on the gauge.

[fastthings]

You have 12v power connected to the right one? I had the same problem untill I connected the 12 power to it, would not read on the gauge.
Your shi*in me, I was wondering. But then I pictured powering it up, and causing a spark, and watching the whole thing go up.
Thank you, can't wait to try it.

Any thoughts on the speedo?

[fastthings]

I have a working fuel gage now. Thanks Doug, it's amazing how such a little thing can ruin a ride.

I'm using my tab app for a speedo, but would love to get the gage to work. Time to focus on that.

One more thing, went to charge the AC. The connection to the top of the canister, that sits by the battery. I must have the wrong gasket. I have the green oring, and it's very loose.
Any thoughts.

[fastthings]

What's up guys. I have been so busy this summer. I still read this forum. the other seems to have too many virus.
I have been to a few shows out having fun.

https://youtu.be/OkzC7_xO2t4

Here is a walk around I did.

https://youtu.be/I_67-mLUMcc

This is my local town car show.

https://youtu.be/IB9R8rmiJtY

[The Stig]

Beautiful! You really did a great job Gene. You car just looks outstanding!

Mike

[LCD Gauges]

Congrats on winning best exotic!

Tell me, how did you get all of those young girls to sit on your car?
Where you handing out candy?! :p

[fastthings]

Thanks guys, they all like the GTM. I have been to a few different crowds, it is well liked.
Those girls are nice for doing that, lots of fun.

[Taz Rules]

Gene

I sent you a PM

It would be a trajedy if your car wasn't in this year's calendar.
Just sayin.

[Aceflo]

Umm ...wow .....I'm definitely building a GTM now. LOL

[fastthings]

Gene

I sent you a PM

It would be a trajedy if your car wasn't in this year's calendar.
Just sayin.

Hello,
I have been off the grid, I have been so damn busy.
Can you believe I still have not taken any pics yet. Lots I have not done yet.
I wish I had some pics for you, sorry. I do want in, most likely next year.
Thanks again

[fastthings]

Umm ...wow .....I'm definitely building a GTM now. LOL
LOL,:cool:

[fastthings]

Here is an update of sorts, I love it.
What a frickin blast. I have minor things to redo, but all in all, good to go.

One thing, Mendeola currently has my box. It is popping out of third, life in the fast lane, they'll fix it.

[tucker298]

Gene, well I watched all your videos in a weekend and that's what got the fever going, now that I have a GTM in my garage I'll have to re-watch them. I'm actually excited to watch them again, hopefully I'll pick up even more info now that I'm a little more informed. Thanks again for taking the time to make those videos and post them, and that thank you goes to all the build logs out there, I've read them all lol

[fastthings]

Gene, well I watched all your videos in a weekend and that's what got the fever going, now that I have a GTM in my garage I'll have to re-watch them. I'm actually excited to watch them again, hopefully I'll pick up even more info now that I'm a little more informed. Thanks again for taking the time to make those videos and post them, and that thank you goes to all the build logs out there, I've read them all lol

My pleasure, if you watched them all, you heard me many times give thanks to the guys on the forum. I can imagine the insight you would have going into a build after watching, cool stuff. This forum has almost got this build refined, good bunch of builders.

I like it that I get people riled up, good luck on the build.

[Aussie Mike]

Hi Gene,I have just joined the forum ,your build is amazing hope i can build mine somewhere close to your GTM.I have a question re your wing mounting to the frame/chassis Did you make the hardware or can you buy these mountings? Thanks Aussie Mike.

[VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC]

Hi Aussie Mike. The mounting system he has appears to be ours....

http://vraptorspeedworks.com/vrsw-new-steel-universal-wing-mount-system/

[Aussie Mike]

Thank You Shane.