Diesel Option PLEASE

[bigugly27]

I know that you guys are going to put out what you feels is best for your product. If I can make one plead it that you include for your high mileage version a diesel instead of the ford engine. The opportunity to make my own boidiesel and get 50mpg + and possibly run something from this company ( malonetuning.com ) is like a dream come true! You guys are amazing and I know you can't cater to everyone, but please please please put in a diesel option?!

Best regards,

Dan

[Silvertop]

The high mileage version of the 818 DOES get a diesel. A VW TDI.

[Nelff]

high mileage version with a direct injection, variable cam, turbo (new Ford) could possibly get just as good mileage as a TDI... just sayin...

And after saying that, I have been excited about a VW TDI in the 818 along with a gas VW with a flappy paddle, the Subi with a turbo.

And after listening to Dave talk about the tech transfer and the connections he has in Ford, I'm excited about Ford prospects as well.

I might just have to build at least two...

[sub322]

Yes, the mileage may be the same but it still a Ford at the end of the day. Go with the TDI and you will be a lot less
trouble for you. Know of a LOT of Trouble with the Ford 350 Superduty.

[PhyrraM]

I'm not sure how much tech transfer there is between a small 4 cyl automotive diesel and a large truck based V8 deisel.

The VWs have thier share of problems too.

Don't forget that Subaru has a flat-4 turbo diesel of thier own, which will likely be a drop in for the countries that get them or someone willing to import one.

[Evan78]

I could be completely wrong, but Ford must have a 4 cyl turbo diesel for the European market, I wouldn't think their truck diesel engines have anything to do with what might end up in the 818.

Although, I guess they'd want to use something that's already imported to the U.S. Does Ford have any plans for non-truck diesels in the near future?

[Steve91T]

The TDI WILL get better MPG...no doubt about it.

The only Ford diesel to have issues was the 6.0. It was an issue, and all of the new engines are absolutely amazing. My old (1999) 7.3 Powerstroke is bullet proof. Then comes the 6.0, which has issues. Then, everything new is making 800 ft/lbs of tq with just a tune, and very reliable. I'm sorry, but you can't knock Ford for their diesels.


The VW TDI would be a blast in such a small, light car. Tons of tq, amazing fuel economy, and it will go a very long time before needing a rebuild.


My 7,300 lb, 4x4 long bed F250 gets 20 MPG on the highway. I get 14-15 MPG while towing a 6,000 lbs trailer. No gas engine can compare.



Steve

[StatGSR]

I thought the ford engines Dave mentioned were still gasoline ecoboost engines. I have not seen anyone previous to this thread mention a ford diesel ever being in the line up.

[Twinspool]

Anyone who writes off a Ford product as inferior is simply ignorant. The Blue Oval makes several compression ignition engines for various markets globally and comparing them to a Navistar/Powerstroke or the new Scorpion engine is comparing apples and ball bearings. Not even the same genus.

Even if Ford is a few years out, there is always the Cruze diesel, the newer version puts out 265lb-ft before any reflashing. ;-)

[thebeerbaron]

I thought the ford engines Dave mentioned were still gasoline ecoboost engines. I have not seen anyone previous to this thread mention a ford diesel ever being in the line up.

Yep, 3 and 4 cylinder gas-sipper engines from Ford were one of the options Dave may be thinking about. But remember, this is a kit car, you can put whatever engine your budget and skills allow...

[16g-95gsx]

Yep, 3 and 4 cylinder gas-sipper engines from Ford were one of the options Dave may be thinking about. But remember, this is a kit car, you can put whatever engine your budget and skills allow...

Exactly. At the end of the day, if they can give the space for a standard inline 4 to work, then you'll have almost endless options if you want to go another route.

[thebeerbaron]

Exactly. At the end of the day, if they can give the space for a standard inline 4 to work, then you'll have almost endless options if you want to go another route.

We've already discussed the height of the scooby boxer at length, but I don't think we've ever discussed the width. Given how close the valve covers on the boxer are to the frame rails, I don't think it's any narrower than an inline engine. It's not as if the car itself is any narrower than the competition, nor are the frame rails all that different from other cars, so I would ***ume...

[PhyrraM]

I have not seen anyone previous to this thread mention a ford diesel ever being in the line up.

I typoed. I meant comparisions to GAS engines.


I'm not sure how much tech transfer there is between a small 4 cyl automotive GAS motor and a large truck based V8 deisel.

[Fast818]

Audi V6 and V8 TDI with manual trans or DSG trans from the front of the 4wd system.

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[Evan78]

What car is that?