Need help, loosing it!

[cfriedman67]

So I painted my car and have it all together. Windshield, doors, hood trunk, exhaust etc... I finished hooking up all the lights and low and behold the front amber lights do not work and the horn does not work. The rear blinkers work, the front headlights work, high and low beams, the four way flashers work but only the rear lights flash, again but not the amber in front. I looked at one of the front amber bulbs and it looks fine. When looking at the fuse panel there are two round heavy duty fuses. One of them I believe is for the four way flashers? Could this be the issue if the rear ones are working? I am really not relishing the thought of dismantling the whole car tAo get to the wiring. ny hep would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Craig

[Joecobr]

Were they all working in the go cart stage?

[wallace18]

Those are flasher relays not fuses. Trace your problem out with the supplied wiring diagram. Start at the front and work back. You did not mention if your parking lights work or not. The problem is most likely in the front harness. I would check the front harness connector first. Also check the black ground wire in the front harness as this feeds horn and front lights. Get a good 12v test light and you will get it figured out.

[cfriedman67]

Yes they were all working

[Papa]

Check the "Horn" fuse.

[boat737]

Those are flasher relays not fuses. Trace your problem out with the supplied wiring diagram. Start at the front and work back. You did not mention if your parking lights work or not. The problem is most likely in the front harness. I would check the front harness connector first. Also check the black ground wire in the front harness as this feeds horn and front lights. Get a good 12v test light and you will get it figured out.

Yep, sounds like the front harness connector(s). A Power Probe comes in really handy for these types of problems.

[cfriedman67]

So the front harness is connected. What should I do or look for? Electrical is definitely not my strong point.

[Papa]

So the front harness is connected. What should I do or look for? Electrical is definitely not my strong point.

Check for power at the main harness side of the connector for each of the circuits you are having issues with. If there is power at that side of the connector, but not down stream, then the connector may be the issue. Be sure to verify the circuits using the ground pin in that connector. A bad ground will kill all the front harness circuits.

[cfriedman67]

When I put a test light on the pin for the horn it does light up. None of the other pins light the test light.

[Papa]

When I put a test light on the pin for the horn it does light up. None of the other pins light the test light.

Is that with the ground pin in the main harness? If so, try a chassis ground and if your circuits work, the issue is a bad ground in the main harness. Let's ignore the horn for a now -- that's a relay controlled circuit.

[cfriedman67]

There are three grounds coming off that harness. Do you mean trace those three grounds and see where they are grounded?

[cfriedman67]

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[Papa]

All three are tied to the same source, but that's on the main-to-dash harness plug. You want to check the main-to-front harness plug to see if there is power on the device pins when they are switched on.

[cfriedman67]

Do you mean the other end of the same plug?

[Papa]

No -- Your picture is of the Dash Harness plug. You want to locate the Front Harness plug.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=134685&d=1599087230

[cfriedman67]

Ok. So locate that harness, find the black ground wires and check to see where they are grounded and make sure it is a good ground?

[Papa]

Locate that plug and test each device pin for power on the main harness side of the plug. Use the ground pin in the plug for ground when testing. Be sure the device is switched on while testing.

[j.miller]

ground,ground,ground….on the chassis, on the harness, on the lamp .

[Papa]

Since all the things that aren't working are served by the front harness, you want to see if that haness is getting good power and ground from its source.

[cfriedman67]

Papa. Thanks so much for the advice. Will dive in tomorrow and see what happens. Appreciate all the help.

[cfriedman67]

Crisis solved but not before dismantling everything. Sometimes it’s the most simple and frustrating thing. The harness was not clipped together. Thanks to all for the help and advice.

[Papa]

Glad you got it figured out. Any fix that doesn't drain your wallet is a good thing.

[chmhasy]

There are 10 types of people in this world;
those who understand binary and those who don't.

01100010 01100101 00100000 01110011 01110101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100100 01110010 01101001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100001 01101100 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100101 00001010

[Mark K]

Do they even still make Ovaltine?

[chmhasy]

Do they even still make Ovaltine?

I don't know

[Papa]

01100010 01100101 00100000 01110011 01110101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100100 01110010 01101001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100001 01101100 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100101 00001010

01101111 01101011 01100001 01111001 00100000 01010010 01100001 01101100 01110000 01101000 01101001

[timmil]

Careful, you'll put out eye out!

[Kmcallahan]

Crisis solved but not before dismantling everything. Sometimes it’s the most simple and frustrating thing. The harness was not clipped together. Thanks to all for the help and advice.


The same similar thing happens to me last week. Except none of the lights or flashers worked. After 3 hrs of trouble shooting I found the 2 harnesses in the DS foot box were not even plugged. What a rookie thing to do. Works now.

Glad to hear you got yours figured out.

[Just puttering]

01101111 01101011 01100001 01111001 00100000 01010010 01100001 01101100 01110000 01101000 01101001

Thats how you are gonna be! And my universal translator is broke!

[Blade]

okay Ralphi

[BadAsp427]

01000010 01101111 01111001 01110011 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101110 01100101 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01100101 01101110 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110011 01101000 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 01110101 01101101 00100000 01110011 01101111 00100000 01110111 01100101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01110101 01101110 01100100 01100101 01110010 01110011 01110100 01100001 01101110 01100100 00101110

Boys, you need to speak English on this forum so we can all understand.

[Papa]

I don't typically use binary to write messages (directly anyway), but deal with a lot of binary numbers/counters...

1
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11
100
101
110
111
1000
1001
1010
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1100
1101
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1111

[frankb]

01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01100111 01100101 01110100 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101000 01100101 01100001 01100100 01100001 01100011 01101000 01100101 00100001

[KenWilkinson]

Do they even still make Ovaltine?

https://www.amazon.com/Nestle-Ovaltine-Chocolate-Malt-12-Ounce/dp/B003M1XJHU/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=olvatine&qid=1599317287&sr=8-5

[Just puttering]

Getting this thread back on track, the answer to the OPs original question is



42

[Big Blocker]

59 6f 75 20 67 75 79 73 20 6e 65 65 64 20 61 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 20 68 6f 62 62 79 20 69 66 20 79 6f 75 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 62 69 6e 61 72 79 20 69 73 20 67 6f 69 6e 67 20 74 6f 20 6d 65 73 73 20 77 69 74 68 20 74 68 65 20 62 72 61 69 6e 20 74 72 75 73 74 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 69 73 20 66 6f 72 75 6d . . .

And that's all I have to say about this whole thing.

Doc

[Cobradavid]

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42...

[Papa]

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 ...

[Papa]

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42...

You Lost me ...

[Mark K]

59 6f 75 20 67 75 79 73 20 6e 65 65 64 20 61 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 20 68 6f 62 62 79 20 69 66 20 79 6f 75 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 62 69 6e 61 72 79 20 69 73 20 67 6f 69 6e 67 20 74 6f 20 6d 65 73 73 20 77 69 74 68 20 74 68 65 20 62 72 61 69 6e 20 74 72 75 73 74 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 69 73 20 66 6f 72 75 6d . . .

And that's all I have to say about this whole thing.

Doc

Well, if hex doesn't do it, how about octal? :-)

- m

[WBILB]

Do they even still make Ovaltine?

Haven't seen Ovaltine in a long time but Walmart still has Bosco!!

[rich grsc]

Haven't seen Ovaltine in a long time but Walmart still has Bosco!!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ovaltine-Classic-Malt-Drink-Mix/888414390?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=11059&&adid=22222222227273256794&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=328014905402&wl4=aud-834279576126:pla-617829334966&wl5=1020519&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=125198037&wl11=online&wl12=888414390&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw19z6BRAYEiwAmo64LTz2Re8SJfOmCYuMgbHH nk4ZUzutU4xTuAQ6kA92VXyDMdWQohPhghoCeegQAvD_BwE
Amazon sells it too

[Gbeck]

You Lost me ...

The mysterious numbers on "Lost".

[teesalmon]

Is octal good for much? Something like a DEC PDP-12 with 12 bit words?

[Just puttering]

To cobradavid

Sorry i missed ansering your post....

42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everthing! I hope that helps.

To teesalmon

Octal is very important, the more octal you have the less chance your engine will 'ping'.

To all others,
Sorry, I have worked alot the last two days and im blaming this post on that!