Name The Next Factory Five Challenge

[Bryan]

it should be called "the Wareham" of course.

:)

[Kc_Shane]

Whoever is keeping the spreadsheet: the suggestion was "Magnu5" not "Magnus5", which you entered into the spreadsheet at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=t9X9AJfDg1v4tk78h5VtjxA&hl=en#gid=0

Corrected

[Kc_Shane]

Widget.
Then sue anyone that uses the name.

Added

[Kc_Shane]

it should be called "the Wareham" of course.

:)

Added

[Cobradavid]

Barchetta - gleaming red Barchetta

...from a better, vanished time."

[Kalstar]

How about this car for some ideas

[Magnus]

Corrected

Thank you, KC.

[Someday I Suppose]

I was just thinking Droid probably can't be done without paying off Lucas. Along those lines I was surprise no one suggested 'Jedi' but again I dont think it would be a viable name because of copywright.

[BrandonDrums]

Nice work KC on the spreadsheet!

[Kc_Shane]

Thank you, KC.

No Problem.

[BrandonDrums]

Droid is not a Lucas term. It's just short for "Android" which has been around as a term long before Star Wars.

However, "Jedi" is a Lucas term. $$$ will exchange for that.

[Kc_Shane]

Nice work KC on the spreadsheet!

Thanks. I went back and found some that I was missing and added the owners names to the list.

[Sergio]

here's another FFR FUNK ! (with the exclamation point in the name)

[Kc_Shane]

here's another FFR FUNK ! (with the exclamation point in the name)

added

[Magnus]

"Myte" as in "mite" for small and "mighty" for powerful.

[Kc_Shane]

"Myte" as in "mite" for small and "mighty" for powerful.

Myte is added

[crobin4]

Although it been said. Vulcan. I also like VII.

[Oppenheimer]

FFR Boost (OK, they won't all be built 'boosted', but the name needn't refer exclusively to how many atmospheres of intake pressure it has)

[Kc_Shane]

Vulcan and VII.


FFR Boost

all have been added

[MHCobra]

I like Apex! It's a Yamaha snowmobile name. I also think Renegade would be cool. It's a Ski-Doo snowmobile name.

Mike

[Kc_Shane]

I like Apex! It's a Yamaha snowmobile name. I also think Renegade would be cool. It's a Ski-Doo snowmobile name.

Mike

Added

[Someday I Suppose]

I'm pretty sure George owns Droid too

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/06/motorola-pays-lucas-for-its-droid/



Droid is not a Lucas term. It's just short for "Android" which has been around as a term long before Star Wars.

However, "Jedi" is a Lucas term. $$$ will exchange for that.

[BrandonDrums]

I stand corrected. Lucas must have a Droid in the trademarking and copyright clerks office then...

[subyrod]

Spark
Grip
Escape
Action
Emotor (emotion + motor)

I like Apex. That one is making sense, its catchy, pertinent to sports cars and I can't think of any other cars named Apex. There's a Japanese tuner company called Apex'i, but doesn't really get in the way of FFR naming this kit Apex. :)

[UpstateCobraGuy]

Personally I hate number/letters for automotive names, Ford 500 vs Taurus will be a case study for years to come.

Here's a few more...

WWII Fighter theme:

Factory Five Racing Thunderbolt

Factory Five Racing Hurricane

Factory Five Racing Warhawk

Factory Five Racing Lightning

Factory Five Racing Skyraider

Popular names of WWII Aircraft http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/uspopidx.htm

Later Jet Fighters:

Factory Five Racing Thunderchief

Factory Five Racing Phantom

Factory Five Racing Interceptor

Factory Five Racing Tomcat

[Kc_Shane]

Spark
Grip
Escape
Action
Emotor




Factory Five Racing Thunderbolt
Factory Five Racing Hurricane
Factory Five Racing Warhawk
Factory Five Racing Lighting
Factory Five Racing Thunderchief (F-105?)
Factory Five Racing Phantom
Factory Five Racing Interceptor
Factory Five Racing Tomcat

Have been added.

[subyrod]

Yep, F105 is the Thunderchief.

Corsair
The P39 was a turbocharged mid engine warbird that was called the Aircobra or Aerocobra, hmm, that has some cool meaning with mid engine, turbo, Cobra family. :).
Wildcat
Bearcat
Tomahawk
Tigershark
Crusader
Helldiver
Dauntless
Spitfire
Seafury
Blackwidow
Falcon
Spirit (B-2)
Eagle
Skyraider

[Kc_Shane]

Wildcat
Bearcat
Tomahawk
Tigershark
Crusader
Helldiver
Dauntless
Spitfire
Seafury
Blackwidow
Falcon
Spirit (B-2)
Eagle
Skyraider

done

[maaseyracer]

Hey, I am Big fan of FFR, and a branding professional. The name of the new car is central to the overall brand of the car. This, however, is not an arbitrary process. Trying to come up with a name without understanding the development process is like shooting in the dark. You are looking essentially to get lucky with a name. This does not need to be some dragged out corporate identity process, but a few simple questions can really help to shape the direction of where a brand needs to go.

Some questions to consider:

1. Why create this new car?
5. What is the purpose of this car? (Fun is an acceptable answer)
2. What does this car have that no other car has?
3. What are some of the ideas and images that inspired the design process?
4. What kind of person would purchase/drive this car?
6. What are the handing characteristics of the car? (describe in as few words as possible, a list of words is good)
7. What emotions does this car evoke? - or - How do you want the new owner to feel driving this car?


You have probably gone over most of these questions in your own process, but in coming up with a name they help to clarify what this project is, and more specifically how to describe it. Once that is down, then you have the pieces in place to start naming and branding this vehicle. Also feel free to add questions from the process to this list.

Cheers and Best of Luck,

Eric Maas
Lyra Designs

[AVIONX]

halo

[Pierre-Alexandre]

Kamikaze? A japanese fighter pilot and his fighter plane giving itself up for the greater good of the empire... like a WRX giving itself up for the greater good of an FFR kit?


I really like this one.

I ilke Spitfire and Ronin too.

[Pierre-Alexandre]

I've just taught : Slayer

I don't think it has been told.

[Cobradavid]

WWII Fighter theme:

Factory Five Racing Thunderbolt

Factory Five Racing Hurricane

Factory Five Racing Warhawk

Factory Five Racing Lightning



...
Factory Five Racing Mustang.
Oh, wait. That probably won't get past the legal department. :D

[redsharK]

FFR BLING
FFR STAR
FFR HYPERSONIC
FFR SONIC
FFR SLOTCAR - "goes around corners like a slot car"

[Oppenheimer]

Hey, I am Big fan of FFR, and a branding professional. The name of the new car is central to the overall brand of the car. This, however, is not an arbitrary process. Trying to come up with a name without understanding the development process is like shooting in the dark. You are looking essentially to get lucky with a name. This does not need to be some dragged out corporate identity process, but a few simple questions can really help to shape the direction of where a brand needs to go.

Some questions to consider:


3. What are some of the ideas and images that inspired the design process?

Eric Maas
Lyra Designs

Well, it hasn't been designed yet, the contest starts March 1st. This is why I'm of the opinion that the final name should wait until after the design has been selected.

[redsharK]

Like having a baby... you talk names before the child is born...
And if you do it right, the name will come naturally from the ones discussed and be fitting.
And as long as David Smith likes it (as the new cars father), we should accept whatever he deems appropriate. (moon unit?)
I just want this new design to meet all the criteria and look great. :-)

red

FFR MOONUNIT? <--- put it on the list :-D

[redsharK]

Ffr holy grail

[subyrod]

I think the name will wait until the design is further along. Dave didn't say we'd pick a name by any date or by the Design Comp start. I can't even think now how the "think up a project name" was started ... heading back to page 1 ...

[redsharK]

Major Auto mfgr's spend a lot of money on coming up with names.
In the past, I have been invited to "previews" where the cars had no name plates
and we were paid to evaluate the designs and rate names and write short reactions to each name on a list of names.
it was kind of fun actually.

David has gotten a great list of names and I expect him to already have a 10 top names on a chalk board in his office.

[Oppenheimer]

I think the name will wait until the design is further along. Dave didn't say we'd pick a name by any date or by the Design Comp start. I can't even think now how the "think up a project name" was started ... heading back to page 1 ...

Um, guilty. I asked what we should call it as an 'interim' name, and so Dave started the 'name it' challenge (he was probably planning that all along, and was just waiting for the right time).

[subyrod]

LOL, ya, I saw that. Oppenheimer was like the first word that typed out of Dave's hand. :)

I still really like Apex. It just fits, its short and to the point, and has no issues with copying anything else.

Um, guilty. I asked what we should call it as an 'interim' name, and so Dave started the 'name it' challenge (he was probably planning that all along, and was just waiting for the right time).

[UpstateCobraGuy]

The P39 was a turbocharged mid engine warbird that was called the Aircobra or Aerocobra, hmm, that has some cool meaning with mid engine, turbo, Cobra family. :).


Maybe we have "stumbled" onto something, wouldn't that torque the old chicken farmer.:cool::cool:

[labmonkee]

Thanks for setting up spreadsheet Kc_Shane!

[Wishin]

In the spirit of names given to previous Factory Fives I would suggest Sport or Cruise. Of course going back to Dave's opening message of the Forum one could suggest Smith, playing off of the blacksmith theme.

[Magnus]

In the spirit of names given to previous Factory Fives I would suggest Sport or Cruise. Of course going back to Dave's opening message of the Forum one could suggest Smith, playing off of the blacksmith theme.

Then you could stylize "Smith" into "5mith" to work in the "5". And then you get into the whole range of permutations, like "Hammer5mith", "5peed5mith" and such.

Another idea: "5myte" as in "smite", which works in the "5" and also means "1. Strike with a firm blow, or 2. Defeat or conquer (a people or land)." according to Merriam-Webster. Also sounds a bit like "Smith". "Mite" means small spider, which also makes sense, considering the bodytype.

So that's four more for you, KC. Note the fives (5mith, Hammer5mith, 5peed5mith, 5mite.)

[Kc_Shane]

List has been updated to this point.

[Oppenheimer]

Then you could stylize "Smith" into "5mith" to work in the "5". And then you get into the whole range of permutations, like "Hammer5mith", "5peed5mith" and such.

Another idea: "5myte" as in "smite", which works in the "5" and also means "1. Strike with a firm blow, or 2. Defeat or conquer (a people or land)." according to Merriam-Webster. Also sounds a bit like "Smith". "Mite" means small spider, which also makes sense, considering the bodytype.

So that's four more for you, KC. Note the fives (5mith, Hammer5mith, 5peed5mith, 5mite.)

I like SpeedSmith (even without the 5's, FFR SpeedSmith).

They may have started as Blacksmiths, but their profession now is SpeedSmiths

[maaseyracer]

Well, it hasn't been designed yet, the contest starts March 1st. This is why I'm of the opinion that the final name should wait until after the design has been selected.

I agree with you. It sounds like the people who end up creating the design and style should be directly involved in the naming process.

[THE ITALIAN]

velocity......skid.....spry.....hero....torq...tor k...torc.....guru...wind....echo...
Rage....

[Dave Smith]

out for a few days with family stuff. Trying to catch up and probably wont read all the threads tonight, but saw this one.

The cool thing about the FFR community is that the guys here have a good "feel" for the company... even better, based on the specs and design goals of the car, have a good clear idea of the potential, uses, build, etc of the car.

No deadlines on the name thingy. I suppose we should have a name by Open House to coincide with the end of submissions on the body design contest.

There's a short list of cool ones, but no decisions have been made. The team in-house has some ideas, but they wont tell me. HA.

Its a fun exercise and I think we should keep it rolling. Thanks again Kc for the list updates!

Dave

[NicksPapaw]

Oh, I see how you operate KC, you go and put my in house name on the list, but conveniently forget to put the real name out there since you know it will win..... Alpha Centauri Then you have a FFR AC :)

[Kc_Shane]

velocity......skid.....spry.....hero....torq...tor k...torc.....guru...wind....echo...
Rage....


Alpha Centauri

These have been added!!!

NicksPapaw You have a PM!!!

[jcoll55]

I believe you forgot some of my names they are listed on the first page post number 15

[David Hodgkins]

Has anyone submitted Screamer?

Put me down for that one if it hasn't been suggested yet!

:)

[Kc_Shane]

I believe you forgot some of my names they are listed on the first page post number 15

Sorry I went back and added them.


Screamer:)

added

[Wishin]

I think Smith missed the list.
I also want to add Drive and Ride.

[Olimk2]

Hi there! My first post on the forum! Posting from France where i heard about the design contest. I had KATANA in mind, i've seen it's already proposed! My other name is Fivester(5ster or F5ster or F5TER ) , but keep in mind it's an international project, something like "katana" will be said equally in USA and Europe, not 5ster...

[Kc_Shane]

I think Smith missed the list.
I also want to add Drive and Ride.


Hi there! My first post on the forum! Posting from France where i heard about the design contest. I had KATANA in mind, i've seen it's already proposed! My other name is Fivester(5ster or F5ster or F5TER ) , but keep in mind it's an international project, something like "katana" will be said equally in USA and Europe, not 5ster...

These have been added

Smith
Drive
Ride
KATANA
FiveStar
5ster
F5ster
F5TER

[BrandonDrums]

Dave also missed that I was the one that made the google doc for KC :(

He's doing all the work though...I just copied it into the Google doc.

KC still is on top of it too, where do you work? I want that job too.

[Kc_Shane]

Dave also missed that I was the one that made the google doc for KC :(

He's doing all the work though...I just copied it into the Google doc.

KC still is on top of it too, where do you work? I want that job too.

I am a slug you don't want this job.

[redsharK]

Factory Five Finger
FFR Wai Lin ('wailing')
FFR Blast - "Hey that looks like a Blast". "It sure is"

[Steve91T]

Factory Five Finger
FFR Wai Lin ('wailing')
FFR Blast - "Hey that looks like a Blast". "It sure is"

Buell had a single engine bike named the "Blast".

Of course they are no longer....which is sad.

[slopoke]

how about Vapor RST?

[Rotr8]

So many names,,,,, I think Mr.Smith needs to hold another seperate contest just for naming the car!

[riptide motorsport]

Its Aussie.............call it a Dingo!!!:cool:

[redsharK]

So many names,,,,, I think Mr.Smith needs to hold another seperate contest just for naming the car!

without a doubt, even if it is just to narrow it down. and then only after the design has been chosen.

[Rotr8]

^^^ yes, because now you guys are just throwing thesaurus' at it.

[D2W]

^^^ yes, because now you guys are just throwing thesaurus' at it.

That's funny because I was just thinking of submitting "Websters, take your pick" :)
DP

[Rotr8]

^^^ hahahah

[redsharK]

FFR Wiki
FFR WIKKID
FFR WICKED - "something WICKED this way comes"

[slopoke]

Maybe Stiletto ? get the point

[Flashburn]

Thank god some of you aren't in charge of naming this thing.

Think how many people would run away from buying a car named the 'WikkID Tramp *** hoe boobaru WRXXXER#1!! firstthingpopinhead'

Or how about all the names that blatantly infringe on trademark or belong to other vehicles like:

Raptor, valkyrie, Blast, wolverine, banshee, boxter, vulcan, velocity, FX, ninja, zero, mks, phantom, katana, samurai... and many, many more.

[Doc_FFR]

thank god some of you aren't in charge of naming this thing.

Think how many people would run away from buying a car named the 'wikkid tramp *** hoe boobaru wrxxxer#1!! Firstthingpopinhead'

or how about all the names that blatantly infringe on trademark or belong to other vehicles like:

Raptor, valkyrie, blast, wolverine, banshee, boxter, vulcan, velocity, fx, ninja, zero, mks, phantom, katana, samurai... And many, many more.
+1 :)

[Oppenheimer]

Thank god some of you aren't in charge of naming this thing.

Think how many people would run away from buying a car named the 'WikkID Tramp *** hoe boobaru WRXXXER#1!! firstthingpopinhead'

Or how about all the names that blatantly infringe on trademark or belong to other vehicles like:

Raptor, valkyrie, Blast, wolverine, banshee, boxter, vulcan, velocity, FX, ninja, zero, mks, phantom, katana, samurai... and many, many more.

Lets be fair, many of the 'out there' suggestions were meant to be humor. Others, well lets think of this as a brain-storming session, maybe one of the stupid suggestions will make someone else think of something awesome.

[Magnus]

Thank god some of you aren't in charge of naming this thing.

Think how many people would run away from buying a car named the 'WikkID Tramp *** hoe boobaru WRXXXER#1!! firstthingpopinhead'

Or how about all the names that blatantly infringe on trademark or belong to other vehicles like:

Raptor, valkyrie, Blast, wolverine, banshee, boxter, vulcan, velocity, FX, ninja, zero, mks, phantom, katana, samurai... and many, many more.

From wikipedia "Ford Edsel" entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsel) : Ford hired the advertising firm Foote, Cone, and Belding to come up with a name. However, when the advertising agency issued its report, citing over 6,000 possibilities, Ford's Ernest Breech commented that they had been hired to develop a name, not 6,000. Early favorites for the name brand included Citation, Corsair, Pacer, and Ranger, which were ultimately chosen for the vehicle's series names.

And still they ended up with "Edsel"...

[redsharK]

Thank god some of you aren't in charge of naming this thing..

It appears you have no sense of humor... :-)
All that flowed from your last post was negativity.
Chill a little and enjoy the ride... :-)
gonna be a while for this car to all come together, designs and names.

And I sincerely hope David Smith chooses a name and DOESN'T leave it up to a vote

[Doc_FFR]

And I sincerely hope David Smith chooses a name and DOESN'T leave it up to a vote

+1 ;)

[bromikl]

FFR Roxy - She's an evil beyotch but I cant live without her


By far the best name yet!

[Kc_Shane]

Factory Five Finger redsharK
FFR Wai Lin redsharK
FFR Blast redsharK
Vapor RST slopoke
Dingo riptide motorsport
FFR Wiki redsharK
FFR WIKKID redsharK
FFR WICKED redsharK

Have been added..

[subyrod]

Lol ^^^

[GTLee77]

Being that the new FFR will be for the "world" market, I suggest:

FFR Terra - Latin for world.

FFR Mundo - Spanish for world.

FFR Sekai - Japanese for world. Being that it will be powered by a Japanese car.

Bonus:

Factory Five Fifteen - For the 15 years of lessons learned to get to this point.

[Kc_Shane]

Being that the new FFR will be for the "world" market, I suggest:

FFR Terra - Latin for world.

FFR Mundo - Spanish for world.

FFR Sekai - Japanese for world. Being that it will be powered by a Japanese car.

Bonus:

Factory Five Fifteen - For the 15 years of lessons learned to get to this point.

added

[crackedcornish]

FFR Imprezive

[slopoke]

Imp?

[Kc_Shane]

FFR Imprezive


Imp?

added

[Magnus]

After reading about Dave's daughter I'm reminded that I once had a niece named "Jenny", but we called her "J-bug". Please add "J-bug" to the list, KC.

[Kc_Shane]

J-bug

added

[Platinum]

Sith...

[Kc_Shane]

Sith...

Added

[mn_vette]

I think the name has to be like the car, small and fast, but with a big presence. And definately not the name of another car or other vehicle.

How about these?

Bolt
Dash
Speed
Amp

[Magnus]

I think the name has to be like the car, small and fast, but with a big presence. And definately not the name of another car or other vehicle.

How about these?

Bolt
Dash
Speed
Amp


http://www.ampelectricvehicles.com/ Just saying...

[Kc_Shane]

Bolt
Dash
Speed
Amp

added

[riptide motorsport]

Hammerhead
Hammerjack
Piledriver

[G35m@]

F57....pronounced F Five-Seven.....perfect code name for pre production.

[Kc_Shane]

Hammerhead
Hammerjack
Piledriver


F57....pronounced F Five-Seven.....perfect code name for pre production.

Added

[a2cpc]

I think they should name it "The Concept"! That would throw the automotive world into a frenzy looking for a new tag to put on their new designs. :)

[Kc_Shane]

The Concept:)

added

[Justen]

I like FFR REX not sure if the has been said already but i didnt see it scanning thru the list, seems like an obvious choice, simple but seems to fit the car well.

[Oppenheimer]

Since StarWars licensed names seem popular, how about LightSaber. Dual meaning in that car is Light weight, sword-like.

[Kc_Shane]

FFR REX


LightSaber


added

[Wishin]

Inspire
Inspired
Original

[Kc_Shane]

Inspire
Inspired
Original

added

[redsharK]

FFR Shane - Shane come back! :) (a tribute to Kc_Shane maintaining the list, thx btw )
FFR Da Vinci - if the design is a total master piece and as advanced in performance as design while still having a classic appearance.

[JET240Z]

Serpent
Sarpa (sandscript for snake)
Komodo
Python
Snake :)

[Kc_Shane]

FFR Shane
FFR Da Vinci


Serpent
Sarpa (sandscript for snake)
Komodo
Python
Snake :)

added

[05xtsy]

How about

Aurora

[Kc_Shane]

Aurora

added

[redsharK]

FFR Aura
FFR SPIKE
FFR SHARK
FFR Time Attack

[Olimk2]

Making a new concept, i thought this is fun!

FUNSTER

[Kc_Shane]

FFR Aura
FFR SPIKE
FFR SHARK
FFR Time Attack


FUNSTER

Added

[slopoke]

has Gypsy been proposed?

[Vman7]

Nexus
Nexus Spyder
FFR Spyder
GTS Spyder

[riptide motorsport]

Arrowhead
Pompano

[thomas colina]

How about fixing all the problems with the 33 before you start another car!

[dv/dt]

Discovery

[riptide motorsport]

Sprint

[riptide motorsport]

Chameleon

[Dave Smith]

Sheesh... Gone for a week and I miis waaayy too much. question for you guys... Where should we go from here? We need an in-house name as well as the vehicle name.

Dave

[David Hodgkins]

Kc_Shane has created a list for you. It's in his signature above this post, on this page. I'd close the competition and go over the list. Then pare it down to 20 names or so. Then put a poll up and allow us to choose the top 10. Then you choose the winner.

JMHO,

:)

[Dave Smith]

Hey Dave!

Yeah, the guys here have gone over the list with over 400 names! I sent the two originators T-shirts for the efforts. I will grab the crew on monday. Maybe moderators here should narrow the list down to 20 or so. Could we do an online vote to narrow the list? I also think we need an in-house name right away as we've been calling the project various names. We will HAVE to have a name when we launch the car or at least intro the car at SEMA this November.

I shouldve read the whole thread! yeah, maybe a pop-up poll would be easier with fewer names.

[riptide motorsport]

Someones already calling it Casper for an in-house name, I like it. Steven

[crobin4]

KC please edit spreadsheet, I should be Vulcan not Valcan.

[Oppenheimer]

Hey Dave!

Yeah, the guys here have gone over the list with over 400 names! I sent the two originators T-shirts for the efforts. I will grab the crew on monday. Maybe moderators here should narrow the list down to 20 or so. Could we do an online vote to narrow the list? I also think we need an in-house name right away as we've been calling the project various names. We will HAVE to have a name when we launch the car or at least intro the car at SEMA this November.

I shouldve read the whole thread! yeah, maybe a pop-up poll would be easier with fewer names.

You know how people say they don't like telling people they told you so, but...? Well I'm the guy that LIKES telling people I _told_ you so! My original suggestion was to just select an in-house name only at this point, and wait until the design is complete to choose a suitable final name. Maybe best thing to do now is use the suggested name list to choose an in-house only name, that we can all use. Then after design contest is over, select the final name. Maybe the in-house name will still work, and will stick.

[Marty Prario]

DeXter

[Steve91T]

Why not just pick a name sooner rather than later and use that as the in house name, along with the final name. We have plenty of great names, and it could easily be narrowed down to 20 or so. Then have an online pole for us to vote, then let FFR have the final say.

Of course, if FFR doesn't feel like anyone has suggested the perfect name, then let people keep keep coming up with ideas.

Waiting until the final product is not necessary. I think we all know enough to be able to come up with a name.

Steve

[PhyrraM]

Because somebody has to start the narrowing process I'm going to list my 4-5 favorites. If everyone does the same, keeping it a very short list, we should soon see the front runners. Maybe somebody can start another spreadsheet to tally the "votes".

Link to names: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=t9X9AJfDg1v4tk78h5VtjxA&hl=en#gid=0

My list:

Apex
Torq or TorQ
Firefly
Serenity

[riptide motorsport]

Cheetah

[keys2heaven]

I vote for Apex as well.

I would like to add the 'SF' suffix to the name for the Street Fighter version. If multiple bodies are offered at some point, the suffix could be initialed accordingly.

Apex SF

[PDX60]

Not sure if Chrysler has this name nailed down still as they used it on a show car several years ago. CHRONOS - Which is a take from the word Chronograph. Speakes to either the quick lap time capabilities of the car or the precision engineering.

[Magnus]

First thing to do to narrow the list would be to disqualify any name that is already used for any other vehicle, including motorcycles, boats, scooters, snowmobiles et c. Next, weed out any name that is trademarked by anybody else. That should pare down things and still leave plenty of great names.

[Flashburn]

First thing to do to narrow the list would be to disqualify any name that is already used for any other vehicle, including motorcycles, boats, scooters, snowmobiles et c. Next, weed out any name that is trademarked by anybody else. That should pare down things and still leave plenty of great names.

Exactly.

[jvieira]

We can all agree that Factory Five Racing is the world’s largest manufacturer of "component" car kits.

So, I typed the word "component" into a translator and selected different languages. I found the Finnish word for "component" is "osa".

Let's call it the...

FFR OSA

[Magnus]

After reviewing the current spreadsheet, the most frequent suggestions appear to be:

Velocity (5) A bit lame
Wroxter (5) Five variations but they sound the same. Too much deference to the Subie connection
Apex (4) Short, sweet, dynamic. Useable in many languages. I like it.
Raptor (3) (probably unusable because it is the SVT version of the 2010 Ford F-150)
Lightning (3) (ditto, 1999 Ford F-150 SVT)
Banshee (3) (totally unusable as a banshee is an omen of death. Ironically, "Banshee" was a series of concept cars made by the now dead Pontiac brand.)

[Sergio]

OSA is spanish for Female Bear.

also, keep in mind that in a few languages around the world some words ending in "osa" are used in derogative and insulting terms.

[Doc_FFR]

I thought I got a few +1's for "Factory Five Forge"
I believe I was the first to enter the name "Vulcan" BTW.

[CoolCarl]

Traxor

[Magnus]

I thought I got a few +1's for "Factory Five Forge"
I believe I was the first to enter the name "Vulcan" BTW.

If you are commenting on my post, I was counting items in the spreadsheet not responses in the thread.
I only saw "Forge" once in the spreadsheet. FWIW, when I saw "forge" I thought it was a synonym for "counterfeit".
"Vulcan" is the name a of a Kawasaki cruiser motorcycle since 1984.

[redsharK]

After reviewing the current spreadsheet, the most frequent suggestions appear to be:


Apex (4) still think it will be nick named the "Ape" and I don't like it at all for a variety of reasons

[Magnus]

Apex (4) still think it will be nick named the "Ape" and I don't like it at all for a variety of reasons


Good point. Tail-less simians are out.

[PhyrraM]

Instead of shooting down names, let's lift a few up.

No reason a name can't be used, or considered good, because one individual has a personal aversion to it. If that's the case, the car could be nameless through FFR -- leaving the builder to slap on whatever name his heart asks him to.

Let's see if more folks pick a few favorites from the list. Dave started this thread to see if the community can find a decent name, let's not let him down and see it degrade into the equivalent of a bunch of stubborn 12 year olds who all feel that thier own ideas are the only resonable ones. ;)

[Olimk2]

I think we have made a great list of names, the choice should be done in house now. I don't think we can extract 20 names that easily...

[keys2heaven]

Apex (4) still think it will be nick named the "Ape" and I don't like it at all for a variety of reasons

Good point. Tail-less simians are out.

That's crap. We're not excluding names based on possible nicknames. Besides, everyone knows that cars are usually given nicknames or a shortened named based on the LAST HALF of the name. If you call it 'ape', you might be the only one. I certainly wouldn't call it that, but that's just me.

Example: Do you call a Mustang a 'Must' or a 'Stang'? Is a Covrette a 'Cor' or a 'Vette'?

A single persons wishes should not dictate what gets on or off. I didn't come up with Apex, but I like it.

Excluding already used or trademarked names is logical. Then, go by this thread and the spreadsheet, weed out "duplicates" or like names and start forming a list based on how many potential votes the name has in the list.

Let's be somewhat democratic about this process.

[Magnus]

That's crap. We're not excluding names...

Excellent and erudite counterpoint--hominids are back in! And was that the "royal we"?

Now that we have thought about it, we have to say we still like "Apex" even if we did not come up with it--and even if it becomes "The Ape", so what? Isn't that a great name for a car that has the agility of a sumatran orangutang? I enjoy the irony of it too, as the "AC Ace V8" was once described by Tom McCahill as "hairier than a Borneo gorilla in a monkey suit" (the utter lack of gorillas in Borneo notwithstanding).

[Steve91T]

I agree, if one guy thinks he'd call it an "Ape", so what, let him. Personally, I won't be calling it a monkey.

Steve

[keys2heaven]

the "royal we"?

Surely, you jest. :) I hope that I don't speak only for myself in this context.

[dv/dt]

Apex is a Yamaha snowmobile.


After reviewing the current spreadsheet, the most frequent suggestions appear to be:

Velocity (5) A bit lame
Wroxter (5) Five variations but they sound the same. Too much deference to the Subie connection
Apex (4) Short, sweet, dynamic. Useable in many languages. I like it.
Raptor (3) (probably unusable because it is the SVT version of the 2010 Ford F-150)
Lightning (3) (ditto, 1999 Ford F-150 SVT)
Banshee (3) (totally unusable as a banshee is an omen of death. Ironically, "Banshee" was a series of concept cars made by the now dead Pontiac brand.)

[keys2heaven]

Seriously? Bummer.

[Kc_Shane]

All names have been added to this point.

[Oppenheimer]

Original napkin drawing, Roadster. Current napkin drawing on Grassroots design contest, hardtop. 'Multiple bodies' suggestion, Dave says its possible.

So what should we call the car(s)? How about Chameleon.

[D2W]

why don't they just call it a FFR "Hey what kind of car is that? It's a FFR."

[Dave Smith]

I was meeting with Jim this weekend on this subject. The names are really good and I like an actual name as opposed to an acronym... but you can see the complexity of a name.

The in-house designation of 818 seems appropriate for now. The target weight of the car is 1800 lbs and that equates to 818 kilograms (it is a world-plateform car). There was a Mazda 810 that was also sold as an 818 in Europe back in the 70's, but there is no trademark on numbers and it just feels right to call the car the 818 for now until a name is vetted. I'll throw it out there for the heck of it... What if we use the short-term designation of the Factory Five 818 for now and then decide on the name when we formally introduce the car (at SEMA in November this year is the goal).

I like the name process as it has been great fun so I don't see a reason to close the conversation... 'spose it can live or die on its own.

[David Hodgkins]

Re-opened...

[Vman7]

Well after doing some thinking (now I have a headache...lol) I went to Dictionary.com to check on a couple of words I have had in my mind for a long time.

Vantage
–noun
1. a position, condition, or place affording some advantage or a commanding view.
2. an advantage or superiority: the vantage of wisdom that often comes with age.

Venture
–noun
1. an undertaking involving uncertainty as to the outcome, especially a risky or dangerous one: a mountain-climbing venture.
2. a business enterprise or speculation in which something is risked in the hope of profit; a commercial or other speculation.

–verb (used with object)
5. to expose to hazard; risk: to venture one's fortune; to venture one's life.
6. to take the risk of; brave the dangers of.
7. to undertake to express, as when opposition or resistance appears likely to follow; be bold enough; dare.

–verb (used without object)
9. to make or embark upon a venture; dare to go.
10. to take a risk; dare; presume: to venture on an ambitious program of reform.

I think either one would fit, considering the "Venture" we are about to embark on. (Grin)

David

[BrandonDrums]

I was meeting with Jim this weekend on this subject. The names are really good and I like an actual name as opposed to an acronym... but you can see the complexity of a name.

The in-house designation of 818 seems appropriate for now. The target weight of the car is 1800 lbs and that equates to 818 kilograms (it is a world-plateform car). There was a Mazda 810 that was also sold as an 818 in Europe back in the 70's, but there is no trademark on numbers and it just feels right to call the car the 818 for now until a name is vetted. I'll throw it out there for the heck of it... What if we use the short-term designation of the Factory Five 818 for now and then decide on the name when we formally introduce the car (at SEMA in November this year is the goal).

I like the name process as it has been great fun so I don't see a reason to close the conversation... 'spose it can live or die on its own.


How about this, I've added 818 to the spreadsheet as an official entry into the naming contest (giving Dave Smith credit for it of course).

A "name" is cool but a alpha-numeric designation I think really fits the language us car-building guys talk with anyway. It's tekky, vague and intimidating to outsiders. Think of an FFR 818 against an "Aurora" in a fistfight...FFR 818 is what i'd name a robot designed for world domination, "Aurora" is what my niece would name her unicorn doll...

If I'm the type of guy who will build a car from start to finish and will spend time picking out turbos named things like 18G-XT and GT3582-R and discuss the differences between an EJ257 and an EJ20 engine, I'm pretty comfortable...even extremely fond of fast things with numbers and letters as names....

Why do you think Mazda changed the name of their 2 seater roadster from "Miata" to "MX5"? Answer: Miata sounds like a type of scarf, MX5 sounds like a race-car.

I'm voting for FFR 818

[Big-Foot]

ZOT! The thing is ////THAT FAST////
http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad321/pinboy3niner/Zot.jpg


ZETA (Roadster - Coupe - Spyder - 33 - GTM) - Zeta is the 6th letter of the Greek Alphabet and the 6th offering from FFR.

[Vman7]

For those who like Banshee, this is some graphics I did in poster size for my Banshee Project (65 Coupe Banshee Edition), I might upload design ideas of it to the 65 Coupe section later.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=941&d=1299631430

Enjoy!
David

[Flashburn]

818 Special

818 Sport

[PhyrraM]

Aston Martin Vantage

Chevolet Venture minivan

David

I like Venture, other than the fact it was used recently on a minivan.

[PhyrraM]

Apex 818 for the roadster.
Apex 820 for the hardtop coupe.
Apex 918 and 920 for the turbo H6 world beating, skull crushing, anurism inducing, end-all-be-all, suicide machine versions.

[Oppenheimer]

818 for an interim name works for me! If the target weight is met, it might even work as the final name. If the target is off a little (plus OR minus), the name could just be tweaked a little (808 anyone?)

Lots of us have offered names that highlight the 'lightness', since its such an important part of the appeal to us. Perhaps a number does that more effectively.

[keys2heaven]

Well, Jim stated the goal was to design an elemental sports car and he mentioned the Atom as being similar to the design goals.

The Atom's name (to me at least) is a twist on the "element" styling, so I took a look at the elements on the periodic table.

8 = Oxygen (O)
18 = Argon (Ar)

And, we know that this is going to be a Roadster.

Therefore, R + O + AR

ROAR

[crackedcornish]

tsunami
demon

[Kc_Shane]

All names added to this point.

[UpstateCobraGuy]

How about "Thunderhill"?

[redsharK]

Every time I see 818 I read it as BIB

[DARKPT]

I've been out of town and was trying to find the post that added 818 to get caught up (I did find it). However, the Forum search won't return results on a search term of 3 or fewer characters.

Just sayin... :-)

[MDRex]

FFRx
FFRex

Not sure if either of those are new or not. They do play to the Subie base of the car without being obvious to many non-Subaru fans. I think something too based on a Subie nickname or term is actually off putting, even to me as a huge Subaru fan.

[Randy Jones]

818

Area code for where I grew up. San Fernando Valley, Ca.

I like it!

R :)

[kach22i]

I like the Zeta suggestion myself, which lead to a Google image search.

http://www.carlustblog.com/2008/08/lightburn-zeta.html
http://www.carlustblog.com/images/2008/08/26/zetabrochure.jpg

http://magazine.uvawise.edu/node/6
http://magazine.uvawise.edu/files/images/ZetaA.png

The "Zeta," a concept car Herron designed using the solidThinking 3D design software.

Economical cars top Zeta Interactive’s "most buzzed" automotive list
http://mychinaviews.com/2011/01/economical-cars-top-zeta-interactives-most-buzzed-automotive-list/

GM Zeta platform
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Zeta_platform

Zeta was the original name for General Motors' full-size rear-wheel drive automobile platform. The architecture was engineered by Holden of Australia and was most recently referred to as the "Global RWD Architecture".

Does this kill it?

.................................................. ..............................................



Subaru uses six stars representing it's founders. right?

Maybe not:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218002830AAZD5Sp

Anyway, 6th car by FF, and Subie uses six stars.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10603087580/subarus-six-star-badge
http://cdn2.worldcarfans.co/2006/3/medium/5060308.002.1M.jpg

The term Subaru comes from the Japanese language meaning "unite". It is also a term identifying a cluster of six stars, which the Greeks called the Pleiades - part of the Taurus constellation. According to Greek mythology, Atlas' daughters turned into this group of stars.

The six-stars cluster featured in the Subaru badge design is known in Japan as mutsuraboshi (six stars), and FHI was the first vehicle manufacturer to use a Japanese word for a brand of automobile.

Read more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/10603087580/subarus-six-star-badge#ixzz1GEhONLCx


Factory Five Six?

The Star?

M45?
http://www.space.com/11092-crescent-moon-pleiades-star-cluster.html

The 6th Star?

TranStar.......but there is TranStar Racing with the Dagger.
http://www.gtr-xs.com/

MidStar?

StarCar?

CarStar?

The Factory Five Star........................that's the best I can do.

Hope it helps.

[Dave Smith]

I must have closed this by mistake... This is why admin rights should be saved for guys who know what they're doing. Monkey on a keyboard here.

[WhirlpoolBrewer]

I've thought of a few goodies:
FFR Storm
FFR Red Storm
FFR Fire Storm
FFR Wave
FFR Rogue Wave (Nissan unfortunately already has Rogue)
FFR Cuda (pronounced like Barracuda... 'Cuda)
FFR Cano (pronounced like Volcano.... 'Cano)
FFR Blizzard

[Gollum]

I've thought of a few goodies:
FFR Storm
FFR Red Storm
FFR Fire Storm
FFR Wave
FFR Rogue Wave (Nissan unfortunately already has Rogue)
FFR Cuda (pronounced like Barracuda... 'Cuda)
FFR Cano (pronounced like Volcano.... 'Cano)
FFR Blizzard

I take it the weather is still on people's minds that are on the east side of the country?

[Seagondollar]

I find the name amusing. I am an alumni of the Theta Tau engineering fraternity and my pin number is Rho (the chapter at NCSU) 818

What other greek letters are there that are appropriate for this engineering excercise?

[WhirlpoolBrewer]

@Gollum
Lol, actually no. I borrowed some names from Supercomputer companies and then made some up from inspiration off those names. Red Storm was the code name for Cray's XT5 series of Supercomputers, Rogue Wave is the name of a software company that produces code debugging software called Totalview, and Cuda is actually the name of a programming language that Nvidia made to assist programming on GPUs. GPUs are quickly growing in popularity in the high performance computing community and CUDA is possibly the most popular language out now for GPU coding. I saw a trend in bad weather names sounding pretty cool.

[crackedcornish]

Habanero
Wasabi

[Platinum]

Spool

[PhyrraM]

How about:

FFR (roof) Debate? :p

[JC Drew]

ffunami

[riptide motorsport]

tsunami

[Wayne Presley]

tsunami

Your sense of timing is just wrong...:D

[Kc_Shane]

all added to this point

[labmonkee]

Engineering/Physics inspired? 21st century world car, a name that matches the new direction FFR offerings.
FFR Shockwave
FFR Catalyst
FFR Epic, Titan
Or for a tongue in cheek nod to the WRX, the 'FFR Evolution (evo)'

[Big-Foot]

SwitchBlade

Apogee (The furthest point from the earth of an orbit)

ICE (It's COOL)

Rattler (As in Rattle Snake) FFRattler....

ASP - (Snake) - As is ASPerformance ((sound familiar?))

[slopoke]

how about Storm for the "storm" of controversy it has created ...?

[kach22i]

Jambalaya.............because it will be made from a jambalaya of parts.;)

Just kidding.

[MDRex]

Or for a tongue in cheek nod to the WRX, the 'FFR Evolution (evo)'

Love it. Love the name, love the play on the Evo vs. WRX.

[dv/dt]

Hex = 6

Hexis ("In Aristotle then, a hexis is an arrangement of parts such that the arrangement might have excellence, being well arranged")

Hexane ("Hexanes are significant constituents of gasoline.")

Hexene

Hexion

Hexagon

Hexonol

Hexyne

Hexose

Hexyl

Petrol

[Wayne Presley]

Octane

[CHIMPreza]

To reflect its weight:

PENTA-GRAM
"like a bat outta hell"

If you want alphabet soup names:
F5F4
Factory Five Flat Four
F5 or F4 could also be from the Fujita tornado scale

FFFFF or F^5
Factory Five Flat Four...
...Frenzy
...Freak (you want a Freak in the street and a lady in the bed...or is that backwards?)
...Funkenstein (with props to George and Bootsy)
FabrikfünfflachevierFerdinand (if the styling cribs too much Porsche)
FFFFF... is also the last truncated sound you'll hear out of your passenger's mouth as you depress the skinny pedal.

Or if the styling winds up being extremely Italian:
fortissimo
def - to be played loudly
symbolized by:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Music-fortissimo.png

[Gun Bunny]

FFR Forte

Forte (n)

1) A strength, aptitude or strong suit

FFR excels at taking a great car, and making it even better than before (q.v. the GTM performance numbers vs. its C5 donor)

2) (musical term) strong, loud

This thing is going to be a pocket rocket and a half, especially once people drop a turbo in the engine bay.

3) My suggested badging: 4TE

This signifies 4 (cylinders) Technologically Evolved

[PhyrraM]

FFR Forte

Forte..............

Kia Forte and Forte Coupe.

[Jeff Kleiner]

FFR Forte


Kia Forte and Forte Coupe.

To avoid conflict with Kia instead of FORTE just call it Mike---same,same! (If you don't get that you're obviously new to FFR ;))

Jeff

[mad-blacksmith]

How about the Anvil...

[Gun Bunny]

Sorry, I really don't pay too much attention to Kias...

You can still keep the badging (4TE), just have Forte be the unofficial name.

[BrandonDrums]

I hate to say it, but I like 818 the best. It defeats much of the purpose behind having a naming competition but it just works!

Factory Five 818.

"I have a 818 with an EJ257 and a 18G-xt pushing 19 psi. I'd go over 20 but I need to get a good set of Nitto's before I put much more than 330hp to the wheels, otherwise it just gets nuts when you do anything over 65% throttle or so."

It fits right in the inevitable conversations I'll have about the car. +1

[Kc_Shane]

all added...

[PhyrraM]

Sorry, I really don't pay too much attention to Kias.........

It's alright. Most of us don't. :p Although Hyundia/Kia are making some really good cars if your looking to replace a Accord/Camry/Civic/Corolla/Plain-mobile. :eek:



I hate to say it, but I like 818 the best. It defeats much of the purpose behind having a naming competition but it just works!
.......

Just put the Apex in front of it. Still kinda hate the 'German numbers game'. Technical sounding? Sure, but also soul-less and uninspired sounding. The opposite of what everyone's hopes for this car are.

[crackedcornish]

I agree...this car needs a name, not just some numbers...unless FFR plans on doing a series of cars and the numbers actually tell you what the car is, sorta like the way BMW used to name their cars in that you had a series number followed by an engine displacement number.

you could pick the wheelbase or the weight to use as part of the name, and something about the donor vehicle for the rest of it.

but even then, I'd still prefer a name over a number (o;

[Big-Foot]

For those who like numbers;

SIX
or just

6

[Cooluser23]

818 is not my favorite, but I'm sure once the car is built, the name can be changed to reflect the final design.
It's pretty good as a working title.

(before I have to go back 12 pages, what's the rationale behind "818 anyways?)

[keys2heaven]

^^^

Car is designed to weigh 1800 lbs. Car is also supposed to be a "world" car. So 1800 lbs = 818kg.

[Kc_Shane]

I was meeting with Jim this weekend on this subject. The names are really good and I like an actual name as opposed to an acronym... but you can see the complexity of a name.

The in-house designation of 818 seems appropriate for now. The target weight of the car is 1800 lbs and that equates to 818 kilograms (it is a world-plateform car). There was a Mazda 810 that was also sold as an 818 in Europe back in the 70's, but there is no trademark on numbers and it just feels right to call the car the 818 for now until a name is vetted. I'll throw it out there for the heck of it... What if we use the short-term designation of the Factory Five 818 for now and then decide on the name when we formally introduce the car (at SEMA in November this year is the goal).

I like the name process as it has been great fun so I don't see a reason to close the conversation... 'spose it can live or die on its own.


818 is not my favorite, but I'm sure once the car is built, the name can be changed to reflect the final design.
It's pretty good as a working title.

(before I have to go back 12 pages, what's the rationale behind "818 anyways?)

Here ya go.

[Cooluser23]

Cool, thanks for the quick response. I like 818 now.. Could we add a small "kg" next to the name. Then Factory Five can choose to trademark the name if they need to.

Be careful: Some numbers are trademarked: i.e.: x0x (206, 207, 306, 307, etc.) for Peugeot. Porsche had to fight with them over that and renamed the 901 to "911" (which is probably also trademarked)
_____
(obviously change the name to reflect final production weight.)

[JJ'snakepit]

FF5's TAZ
FF5 Tasmanian Devil
FF5 Zero (rising sun)
FF5's "O"
FF5 Rising Sun
FF5 Rising Son
FF5 Tsunami........ (No disrespect intended) I have felt so bad for those people I haven't been on the forum very much.

JJ

[Cinci]

Call it what a fun, fundamental car represents.

Freedom

- Descriptive
- A fine name for a product that will represent american craftsmanship
- guys who like acronyms can refer to it as the F3, (Factory Five Freedom)

[Rscocca]

xlratr
outrunner
icbm

[Big-Foot]

Jazz


Blitz


Hammer

[Dave Smith]

Thanks for the updates. We added a "project 818" web page with a bit more expanded detail, but nothing more than most here already know. There is this truck project that I want to start in on and its driving me crazy with limited resources!!!! Thats a story for another day.

Dave

[kach22i]

Okay, I've named my two schemes and maybe the names only make sense if you see the actual designs.

1. TARDIS 2.0
............no it doesn't travel in both space and time (Dr. Who), but then again maybe it does. The 2.0 also indicates one of the engine size choices. It does not look like a police box, but could be the same color blue.

2. FAMILIA GTM2
.........in the FFR family of cars and the second mid-engine offering.

[PhyrraM]

Mazda Familia was the overseas name for the Mazda 323/Protoge/Mazda 3 family of cars.

[kach22i]

Mazda Familia was the overseas name for the Mazda 323/Protoge/Mazda 3 family of cars.

I knew I should have Googled it first.

Back to the name game on that one, sounds too Italian anyway.

Maybe they let the name expire? Ford did that with the GT-40.

EDIT: Going back to a 1980 concept car.
http://trendsupdates.com/tokyo-motor-show-2009-classical-cars-on-display/
http://trendsupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009-Tokyo-Show-Classics-0000.jpg

The 1980 Mazda Familia hatchback

[crobin4]

Okay, I've named my two schemes and maybe the names only make sense if you see the actual designs.

1. TARDIS 2.0
............no it doesn't travel in both space and time (Dr. Who), but then again maybe it does. The 2.0 also indicates one of the engine size choices. It does not look like a police box, but could be the same color blue.

2. FAMILIA GTM2
.........in the FFR family of cars and the second mid-engine offering.

OOooo..... like Tardis. Don't know why I didn't think of that. I've been threatening to get Tardis on the number plate of my Auto-X car for some time now. I'm sure the BBC would have something to say, though.

[PhyrraM]

EDIT: Going back to a 1980 concept car.
http://trendsupdates.com/tokyo-motor-show-2009-classical-cars-on-display/
http://trendsupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009-Tokyo-Show-Classics-0000.jpg

Wow, I know concepts don't always look like the cars they become, but that's about as far from the compact people moving appliance that the Familia became. Well, the GTX and GTR version weren't exactly appliances.....

[kach22i]

Latest brainstorm..................

STREETFIGHTER

All as one word, from what I can tell with a Google search it can also mean a customized motorcycle.

Also found it to be a name for a Steeda Mustang...........don't know what the legal department has to say about that.

http://www.autodezine.com/aerodynamics-kit-steeda-q550-mustang-streetfighter-edition/

http://www.hspnnews.com/index.php/C453/

FFR Streetfighter.........................has a ring to it.:cool:

[Big-Foot]

Dagger

[Hiryu]

Factory Five Furion?

[MurrayT]

Dave

I have just a few name suggestions.

Zan

Sport

FFS

Ike

Thanks

[kach22i]

Ike?

[kach22i]

Factor Five FORCE

All this Star Wars talk just got to me I guess.

[Oppenheimer]

Factor Five FORCE

All this Star Wars talk just got to me I guess.

Hey, I kinda like that. May the Force be with you. Use the Force. Force to be rekoned with.

[Kc_Shane]

Sorry I have been busy. I have the list updated to this point.

KC

[kach22i]

KC, I just clicked the link in your signature.

I'll stop posting names now.

574 names............I had no idea someone was putting those into a spread sheet.:eek:

[Arrowhead]

S/R-515

Street / Race and the 5th FFR car launched in 15years

[Kc_Shane]

KC, I just clicked the link in your signature.

I'll stop posting names now.

574 names............I had no idea someone was putting those into a spread sheet.:eek:

No worries. Add all you want. I'll stop when Dave tells me to.

[Kc_Shane]

S/R-515

Street / Race and the 5th FFR car launched in 15years

added

[Disarray]

Anyone suggested Vagabond yet? Since it's going to be a smaller and zippier car, give it a little attitude. =P Or if you didn't want to sound so young, call it Valor.

[Kc_Shane]

Vagabond
Valor

Nope your the first and these have now been added to the list.

[Bob D]

Being my first post here, I would have to say with all the names that cars have had I would lean on the FFR 818. 8 Cylinders and 1800 pounds. Can beat the meaning or the name.

[Oppenheimer]

Being my first post here, I would have to say with all the names that cars have had I would lean on the FFR 818. 8 Cylinders and 1800 pounds. Can beat the meaning or the name.

Um, except it won't have 8 cylinders, it'll be 4 (or 6). 818 represents 818 Kg (world car, so metric)

[Bob D]

OOps my bad, was thinking wrong, Well if its six then pop a T bird SC in engine it. 91-95 carried a supercharged 3,8 L in it.

How about the FFR Dragon

[Oppenheimer]

OOps my bad, was thinking wrong, Well if its six then pop a T bird SC in engine it. 91-95 carried a supercharged 3,8 L in it.

How about the FFR Dragon

Neglected to welcome you in last post, apologies.

The 818 is based around a Subaru powerplant, specifically the 4 cylinder turbo from the WRX. You could also use the non-turbo from the RS 2.5. Its possible the Subaru 6 could fit as well. These are all flat 'boxer' engines. A V6 isn't going to fit.

[Bob D]

HMMM, Have read the whole thing I guess, Subaru's are very plentiful here, I may go get one for the release, I built a Locust a while back with a 4 cylinder in it from a ford ranger and it was an awsome platform. Very fast. I think this would be more my speed anyway. Thanks for the Welcome.

[Jack FFR1846]

I'm not reading all the pages of suggestions. The new name should be:

Starscream

jack

[Chris Canning]

Alright I admit I didnt read all 13 pages of suggestions so it may have already come up but for any "Salties" out there.
Im think'n along the lines of creatures of the Sea.
It's fast, streamline, aggressive, roams world wide and certainly will attack if provoked.
Anyone who's seen one caught or even hooked one Im sure will agree its an unforgetable experience, they jump and thrash about and its one creature you release rather than bring on board.
Its name strikes fear into anyone who knows it and the part I like best is it has "Nasty Sharp Pointy Teeth!!".
Just like the new 818 it will bite you if you dont show it respect.

Its the New FFR "Mako"...Ok I admit its a personal fascination but it does sound cool.

[bromikl]

I hope I'm not the only one who had to look up what a Mako is.

[Bob D]

Without looking its a shark, But only knew it after I cert'd in scuba lol

[Gollum]

I knew what a mako was. I guess I watch too much discovery channel.

[16g-95gsx]

Perhaps it's just the engineer in me but I like the name 818. I'm not a fan of off the wall names and rather the name imply something about the car, which in this case is one of it's best aspects the absurdly low weight. Ferrari, Lexus, Nissan, Infiniti, Mercedes, BMW, etc all use names that imply something about the car rather than just a made up name. To me the name 818 cuts through the frills of a meaningless name and gets right to the spirit of the car.

[Bill_H]

Mako shark is a cool name, but GM already used it for a Corvette concept.

[Gollum]

Perhaps it's just the engineer in me but I like the name 818. I'm not a fan of off the wall names and rather the name imply something about the car, which in this case is one of it's best aspects the absurdly low weight. Ferrari, Lexus, Nissan, Infiniti, Mercedes, BMW, etc all use names that imply something about the car rather than just a made up name. To me the name 818 cuts through the frills of a meaningless name and gets right to the spirit of the car.

Ferrari, Lexus, Nissan, Mercedes, BMW are all names that are meaningless without their history. Mercedes Benz is based off of a name - Benz. BMW is also based on names I believe (but could be wrong). Either way it's just three letters that could mean anything. Nissan's name dates back to 1934 and from what I know was just made up by the owner at the time. Lexus was a pure branding name created by toyota, the only one on your list that actually might have been created FOR implication of luxury and style. Ferrari as we all know is a name as well...

Sometimes there isn't much meaning in a name, and a name does very little to tell us anything about the car. But with time the name can become something more than just a name, it can become an identity. That identity doesn't happen overnight and requires a culture to cultivate it's meaning.

818 at least has some basis on real world fact's but I guarantee when you first tell someone about it they're know going to have a clue as to what it means (especially if they're american)

I think it will be better for the car's future if it has a name that can become it's own icon/identity. Ford's mustang was a perfect fit for a name, and that car wore the name like a badge of honor and still to this day you can't say mustang without someone thinking of a car, instead of a horse. That's what every car manufacture should be shooting for with a name.

[16g-95gsx]

I'm saying their MODELS use numbers that represent something about them, like a ferrari F430, BMW 335i, MB SL65 AMG, etc. Just my thought, like I said Im an engineer so I tend to stick to data more than names that just "sound cool". Either way I'm sure it'll turn out great, but Im putting in my opinion on things.

[Gollum]

Ahh, well it wasn't clarified. Thank you for clearing that up for us (or me at least).

Though I can appreciate naming cars with numbers, I still hold that the general public has no clue what they mean. It really doesn't help that all these companies want to use a unique naming structure, and explain different things about the car, but without a code cheat sheet it just doesn't work unless you're a car nerd.

[Twinspool]

After the protracted legal issues with Carroll, I think Mongoose is a good moniker

[Steve91T]

Z28 Camaro. SS and RS have meaning. Z28? I think it just sounded cool. It worked though.

I still like Apex.

[Franze]

here is my latest refinements
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5584887245_abd3bd68b1_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5584887535_2882190790_b.jpg

[PhyrraM]

Z28 Camaro. SS and RS have meaning. Z28? I think it just sounded cool. It worked though.

I still like Apex.

I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first, but Z28 was the option code for a package on the early Camaros.

Most all Chevy (all GM?) suspension packages come with Z-codes on the order sheet. Usually it's nothing more than a tow-package, self-leveling, heavy duty shocks, etc. The popular ones get turned into 'packages' and slapped with a badge. ZR1, Z06, Z24 (old Cavalier), Z32 (Baretta), etc...

I agree, Apex is still on the top of my list too.

[Franze]

Sorry this is wrong thread

[Steve91T]

I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first, but Z28 was the option code for a package on the early Camaros.

Most all Chevy (all GM?) suspension packages come with Z-codes on the order sheet. Usually it's nothing more than a tow-package, self-leveling, heavy duty shocks, etc. The popular ones get turned into 'packages' and slapped with a badge. ZR1, Z06, Z24 (old Cavalier), Z32 (Baretta), etc...

I agree, Apex is still on the top of my list too.

Exactly, but how did they come up with the Z packages. Honestly, it has no meaning. Somebody said, "hey, let's call the new suspension package ZXX".

It's not like MR2, which actually has a meaning.

Steve

[LifeIsOnTheWire]

I like the idea of using a Roman Numeral, i think something subtle like VI would be cool (6, representing the 6th car in FFR's current lineup?).

or maybe use a number representing the winning design, if they are being portrayed in any order.

i'm not opposed to an acronym, however cliche it may seem.

I personally don't like when car companies name cars using a Noun or an Adjective, especially like an Animal or something. because this project is so open, and every is looking at it from a different angle, this car will mean different things to different people. it isn't a production car that is being unveiled to the world all at once, with the company telling every "this is exactly as it is, take it or leave it", we all already have our creative juices working here, dreaming exactly how ours will look and run.

because different people have different visions of this car, perhaps it should be something simple, like a number, roman numeral, or an acronym. giving it a Noun or Adjective based name (Integra, Impreza, Corvette, Viper, ect..) would just confuse the direction of the project, the builders, and any onlookers.

[LifeIsOnTheWire]

Exactly, but how did they come up with the Z packages. Honestly, it has no meaning. Somebody said, "hey, let's call the new suspension package ZXX".

It's not like MR2, which actually has a meaning.

Steve

GM's Z-codes arent intended to mean anything. they are just GM's RPO codes. they are really just internal numbers GM dealers use to order certain option packages. catalogue numbers, really.