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Mad Dog
10-02-2019, 10:26 AM
The Mk4 Roadster build videos are back! It's been a while, but we've got several new build videos filmed, and we've been working on getting them edited for you. One of the most requested videos has been on body work. We've broken the steps up into a few videos, and in the first one, Tony and John give you an overview of the steps they take to get the body ready for paint. Click here to visit our YouTube channel to watch more build videos and subscribe - https://www.youtube.com/factoryfive/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9W_Dzao3M
Railroad
10-02-2019, 02:20 PM
Great timing for me, other than I filled the wheel well lip as shipped. Nothing a body saw cannot handle.
Really looking forward to the rest of the body work tips.
delta0014
10-02-2019, 04:27 PM
Thanks for making these, I enjoyed watching the earlier ones. Perfect timing for some more videos for me.
TMartinLVNV
10-02-2019, 04:43 PM
I watched the first one already and am looking forward to the rest of the series.
jrcuz
10-03-2019, 06:41 AM
Thanks for these new videos. Getting ready to tackle some body work.
JR
Mark Eaton
10-04-2019, 08:35 AM
Thanks for this video and I look forward to the others.
Aircontroller
10-04-2019, 08:49 AM
Thank you much for this vid. Saw it last night. :cool:
rsw81
10-04-2019, 10:18 AM
Thank you much for this vid. Saw it last night. :cool:
Intentional double entendre?
Jeff Kleiner
10-04-2019, 10:46 AM
Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted ;)
Jeff
rich grsc
10-04-2019, 11:45 AM
Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted ;)
Jeff
YEP, you guys sucked all the gravy for far tooooooo long. :rolleyes: :p
Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted ;)
Jeff
No way, Jeff. That video will likely cause you more work in the long run as more of us amateurs start hacking up the wheel arches and over trimming doors, hood, and trunk based on gapping them on poorly positioned bodies. Looks more like job security in the making to me.
Dave
Aircontroller
10-04-2019, 12:52 PM
ROFL!!!!! Oh that’s rich! Nice! But not, not me just yet. ROFL!!!!!
Intentional double entendre?
Jeff Kleiner
10-04-2019, 01:53 PM
No way, Jeff. That video will likely cause you more work in the long run as more of us amateurs start hacking up the wheel arches and over trimming doors, hood, and trunk based on gapping them on poorly positioned bodies. Looks more like job security in the making to me.
Dave
Or not... Remember when Mom would say "You made this mess, now you clean it up"? It might be kind of like that :p
Jeff
delta0014
10-04-2019, 02:01 PM
Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted ;)
Jeff
While I enjoy watching the video, there’s zero chance I’m gonna attempt to do it.... Don’t sit on that porch too long, I need someone to paint my car next summer.... ;)
RBachman
10-04-2019, 03:08 PM
Errrr,
Paint & Body is one of those things where you need to know what you don't know. I know I don't want to do the necessary prep it will take to get the finish I want, my wife won't left me have a spray booth, and I'd do a rather poor job at it anyway. Then, when I take it to a guy that knows what he's doing to fix my mess, I'll embarrass myself, shaming pictures of my failed craftsmanship get posted on the internet, and it cost more...much more.
Or not... Remember when Mom would say "You made this mess, now you clean it up"? It might be kind of like that :p
Jeff
I hear ya, Jeff. I know when my dad was doing body & paint that he would not accept anyone's attempted body work. His reputation was more important than cranking out quick product.
BTW - Thanks for the update and pictures on my car today! It looks incredible. ;)
Mad Dog
10-17-2019, 09:34 AM
Part 2 of the Mk4 body work videos is now live. In this video, John goes over the tools he uses and then starts trimming the fenders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuKFcJ3wpM
erstanl
10-17-2019, 10:06 AM
Love the videos. Please keep them coming...
delta0014
10-17-2019, 07:15 PM
Yes, keep the videos coming. More the better, I enjoy watching them.
Mad Dog
11-07-2019, 01:42 PM
In this video, John and Tony go over how to trim and gap the doors on the Mk4 Roadster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqB41XSW7KY
FF33rod
11-07-2019, 02:23 PM
Timely, starting to do this kind of stuff on my '33
brewha
11-09-2019, 10:59 AM
If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
edwardb
11-09-2019, 11:11 AM
If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
:rolleyes: I thought exactly the same thing as I was watching it.
ptstew
11-09-2019, 11:17 AM
Hey, daBat, watching all these videos makes me appreciate even more all the work you did on my car! I was pretty clueless at the time.
If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
Ha! I noticed they chose to show the "easy" one as well. Still a good set of videos for those that want to take on the bodywork themselves. I used the same method of running a tape line to do the initial hood fitting just to get it to sit in the opening. I left the rest to Mr. Kleiner.
j.miller
11-09-2019, 06:55 PM
Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !
Jeff Kleiner
11-09-2019, 07:42 PM
Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !
Yeah, the jig is up and our days are numbered but I'll be just as happy sitting on the porch with you---we'll even invite Brother Ken over! One thing I've learned the hard way though; don't shoot the bushy tailed black squirrels with the white stripe :(
O-Ring
GoDadGo
11-10-2019, 06:01 AM
Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !
Yeah, the jig is up and our days are numbered but I'll be just as happy sitting on the porch with you---we'll even invite Brother Ken over! One thing I've learned the hard way though; don't shoot the bushy tailed black squirrels with the white stripe :(
O-Ring
Jeff & Jeff
Have you guys thought about coming to Louisiana to shoot some Nutria for a living as a new career path?
The state pays you $5.00 per tail, which is proof they are dead, so come on down and start your new careers.
https://youtu.be/8TU_IZzxNyQ
Just need an airboat, a club and a 10/22 and you guys will be in business.
It's like playing Wack-A-Mole, Only Better!
Steve
Jeff Kleiner
11-10-2019, 08:40 AM
Jeff & Jeff
Have you guys thought about coming to Louisiana to shoot some Nutria for a living as a new career path?
Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.
O
GoDadGo
11-10-2019, 12:04 PM
Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.
O
You can sit in your Air Boat and hoist a few as long the boat isn't running and the game wardens aren't around.
https://youtu.be/Yfau8ewTkEo
Mark Eaton
11-10-2019, 11:50 PM
Damn, I want an airboat. I've got the rimfire...
rich grsc
11-11-2019, 12:29 PM
Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.
O
Well invite me over, you an D'bat work on your rocking and sip's, I'll protect you from the tree-rats. I hate those things. :cool:
SSNK4US
11-13-2019, 11:11 PM
After watching those videos I’m SO ready to start my own bodywork!!!!!!
(then fork over twice as much money to daBat to fix it!)
I’m not touching a thing until I get yay or nay instructions from Jeff.
Kurt
If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
But the driver side door is just so much fun!
https://i.postimg.cc/C5zXkqQy/IMG_0024_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Body filler to build it up is extensive before you start sanding.
https://i.postimg.cc/Fzdfr5ZJ/IMG_6465.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Passenger side is much better to get it perfect.
https://i.postimg.cc/PJP3z4bk/IMG_6463.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Jeff Kleiner
11-15-2019, 12:15 PM
But the driver side door is just so much fun!
https://i.postimg.cc/C5zXkqQy/IMG_0024_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Body filler to build it up is extensive before you start sanding.
https://i.postimg.cc/Fzdfr5ZJ/IMG_6465.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Passenger side is much better to get it perfect.
https://i.postimg.cc/PJP3z4bk/IMG_6463.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Like almost everything in life there is more than one way to do things. Back 10-12 years ago I used to load the doors up with some pretty heavy mud (not as much as shown in the pics above) but have learned other ways to go about making them fit that don't take anywhere near as much filler or labor:
https://scontent.fewr1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/76677998_2380879375368090_1538018545927979008_o.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmh-LG_RnOGaeymvJP5fhVKihhflKw97oV-YhIZUXfFne0GtJn3iI5fj6V5HMY4Pk8&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-4.fna&oh=0227b56f505950d544a714ea0f49b512&oe=5E8723BD
https://scontent.fewr1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/75258599_2381156532007041_2658805676456804352_o.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQlwnKOsbdqrf_wa6wpvIJTKYJbteP1C2685--js_z6759AG-K9mPfmrPz9vST-4Qas&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-4.fna&oh=b84e1e92951d14de2f5b3b933b0878f7&oe=5E433913
https://scontent.fewr1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/67686481_2191877380934958_4959163789095206912_o.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQlH_uGuu6e1qMQMdrKGmyKzOpmO8oqgrwYozFKrvbz 1n08GHN7aX1WvaD5K9HtXc3I&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-4.fna&oh=4c1d95a4054a058b18c0c3aee05b0597&oe=5E4A3A8C
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/50639482_1881665425289490_2255303695249965056_o.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQmoophWinVKJlMC4-_4FxKWNhw64QUdx6hqdz4FXQipwQyyZx8xP0UHEmvg0TyP2lQ&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=5eb014e4481a35d81a490ed9548ae241&oe=5E4A1D75
No right way or wrong way as long as you get the results you want just use whatever method that works for you!
Jeff
GoDadGo
11-15-2019, 12:59 PM
If your body is NOT as nice as mine, then send it to Jeff K. or his buddy Jeff M.
https://youtu.be/_3sLamdkIFg
https://youtu.be/meBYeI96_A8
If you stuff a Chevy in your car, then I suggest you paint it yourself!
rich grsc
11-15-2019, 01:54 PM
If your body is NOT as nice as mine, then send it to Jeff K. or his buddy Jeff M.
https://youtu.be/_3sLamdkIFg
https://youtu.be/meBYeI96_A8
If you stuff a Chevy in your car, then I suggest you paint it yourself!
I think you should stand in the corner. :rolleyes:
GoDadGo
11-15-2019, 02:10 PM
I think you should stand in the corner. :rolleyes:
Sporting A Pointy Cap Too!
WIS89
11-15-2019, 03:52 PM
But the driver side door is just so much fun!
https://i.postimg.cc/C5zXkqQy/IMG_0024_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Duke-
Your body work turned out beautifully!! And, that is doubly tough on a black car. Your car is truly stunning!!
I can't imagine how much work went into it, but it is awesome!!
Regards,
Steve
brewha
01-15-2020, 07:08 PM
Hey Mad Dog
When do we get some more bodywork videos? The ones you did were great but I’m sure you have lots more information to share. Oscar nominations are coming soon. You don’t want to be left out...
Megascott
01-30-2020, 08:20 AM
These Videos came out just in time for me. Sure I had already read up on the forums about the idiosyncrasies of the MkIV body and especially the dirty little secrets from Jeff Kleiner on how to get the drivers side door lined up and the trunklid lower section using the Jack studs.
After making sure the Body was in place and the windscreen was installed, I adjusted the doors Trunk and hood to be evenly centered in the opening as close as possible and adjusted as flush with the body as possible (all at the same time). I used a 3/16 wide black marker and went over the edges of each panel, removed the panel, then trimmed the black line off using my battery powered 4" angle grinder with a 220grit "flap disk" oh boy, does it take off the edge fast. A light touch is all that is needed using this method. Anyway, get the gaps roughed in and the front edge of the doors, hood and trunk lid beveled inwards. I sanded the gaps straight by hand with some 220 grit sandpaper wrapped around a paint stick. I'm pretty happy about it now. of course this is just the beginning. lots more sanding to do and filler to spread...repeat.
Now where are those video's from FFR about adjusting the hood and trunklid?
i watched a couple of these as well
and they are quite informative
iowa
GoDadGo
03-08-2020, 11:18 PM
Here is a better solution that truly fixes the driver's side door.
https://youtu.be/6UK6K2jcwTU
Hope this helps everyone.
Here is a better solution that truly fixes the driver's side door.
https://youtu.be/6UK6K2jcwTU
Hope this helps everyone.
Interesting solution. Thanks for sharing.
Mad Dog
03-12-2020, 12:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTEoSe0mlwA
Sorry for being away from getting the next video posted, but here it is! Tony and John work on trimming the rear wheel well and fitting the trunk. They also discuss some tips on fitting the Aston LeMans gas cap and tail lights.
jrcuz
03-12-2020, 05:01 PM
Good to see another video, thanks Dave. By the way what is a truck?
JR
GoDadGo
03-12-2020, 08:09 PM
Thanks For Posting This New Video!
These have been great videos. Thanks for taking the time to put them out.
GoDadGo
03-26-2020, 07:24 PM
Factory Five Just Published This Video Today:
https://youtu.be/qrjs9jeAS9w
Mad Dog
03-27-2020, 12:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrjs9jeAS9w
Tony and John fit the hood on the Mk4 Roadster, and give you tips on how to make the hood scoop cut-out. Tony also gives some tips on trimming the inner edge of the cockpit for the dashboard and rear cockpit aluminum.
Kmcallahan
03-27-2020, 01:48 PM
I watched pt 1-5 and this is very helpful. At this time I am fitting my doors, hood and trunk. These are awesome.