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Packer fan
08-01-2019, 08:10 AM
Hi,
My use is for around town and an occasional track day or auto cross.
I am wondering if there are any air dams that are adjustable so I can use it around town and then lower it for the track. I like the look of them for every day use and then the effectiveness on the track. I saw the DWC splitter and may also put that on but it sounds like a air dam is more effective.
Bob Cowan
08-01-2019, 09:03 AM
I used the Dark Water air dam a while back. Easy to install, easy to adjust. Created a lot of down force, and allowed for higher cornering speeds. BUT, it also created a lot of drag, and decreased my lap times on the bigger tracks. I took it off, and I think it's still in my basement somewhere.
Dewey McBride
08-01-2019, 09:54 AM
I've been thinking about this too. Over 100mph the car isn't as stable. I saw on facebook a guy got an air dam or front spoiler and rear diffuser. He said it's night and day over 100mph.
Bob Cowan
08-01-2019, 10:28 AM
Spoilers and splitters are much more efficient than dams. I have seen these Backdraft spoilers fitted to the FFR body. The results are said to be good. For a street car, this would be my first choice.
https://www.iconicparts.com/front-spoiler.html
BEAR-AvHistory
08-01-2019, 12:29 PM
Nice looking. Wonder about driveways & speed bumps though.
Jeff Kleiner
08-01-2019, 12:54 PM
I made one 10+ years ago using 1" square aluminum tubing and 3/8" thick conveyor belt rubber. The metal frame ends 2" or so above the rubber so that it can deflect if necessary which rarely happens.
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60636962_2040193596103338_2984278680399773696_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQlgvZvUqjKrs-2GuNBohA2lIeimGpKYNPdw9gYFNjkzP4D50COloErukuIjXf8a 7S8&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=36032163079a370ee5e0578381e5528a&oe=5DDE7161
It uses 2 pins and 2 thumbscrews to attach and can be put on or removed in one minute. The rear struts are intentionally sacrificial so that it can hinge/fold under with a hard impact such as digging in during an off track excursion (thankfully untested!). Dig around with a search on the other forum and you should find a write up with some photos that I posted when I made it.
I experienced much the same as Bob...it helps plant the front at triple digits but you can feel the additional drag at that speed.
Jeff
Avalanche325
08-01-2019, 01:19 PM
For autocross, you need pretty big high angle spoilers / wings to be reasonably effective. They would be pretty silly looking on the street. Most autocross is a 2nd gear, less than 70mph event. Look at what they run at SCCA national Solo. It looks like they stole parts off of a sprint car. The track is different.
Here is one of the fastest autocross cars that there is. They'd be sweet on a Cobra! LOL
111684
The track ones do look good. I am pretty much an old school look guy though.
I was going to do a Track Night in America at Daytona tonight, but had work stuff get int the way. It is pouring down rain anyway and there is no way I would run a high speed track with nothing but concrete walls in the rain in a Cobra. Watching footage, 140 is common and I saw 160. I am sure some aero would be a big help on the high banks. I was honestly sweating a little thinking about signing up.
What speed would you guys say these start getting light?
Jeff Kleiner
08-01-2019, 06:07 PM
What speed would you guys say these start getting light?
100ish
I don't think an air dam such as mine really adds downforce so much as it prevents some of the air from getting under the car and lifting it.
Jeff
frankeeski
08-01-2019, 11:20 PM
One thing to remember is that ride height is going to play a big part in how/what the front air dam contacts. Kleiner runs his car pretty low as do I. I run mine 3-3.5" in the front and about 4" in the back. At that height my air dam was dragging on everything, it's no longer on the car.
Packer fan
08-05-2019, 03:49 PM
Spoilers and splitters are much more efficient than dams. I have seen these Backdraft spoilers fitted to the FFR body. The results are said to be good. For a street car, this would be my first choice.
https://www.iconicparts.com/front-spoiler.html
I think this might be a good option along with lowering the car a bit more.
Thanks all,