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JohnK
06-11-2019, 05:20 PM
OK, time for today's rant...

Last week I made life unnecessarily complicated for myself when attempting to dial indicate my bellhousing with a cheap Amazon dial indicator gauge and magnetic base that never gave repeatable results and broke on the third use. I ended up buying a suitable tool and getting the job done with far less frustration.

Well, this is apparently a theme in my garage at the moment. I'm now starting to do some mock-up of brake and fuel lines (templating with Nicopp first before making the real ones out of stainless steel). I purchased several tools from Eastwood - flaring tool, tubing straightener, tubing cutter, deburring tool, and the tubing bender that can handle different tubing sizes from 3/16" - 3-8". You know the one... it's sold under a bunch of different names all over the place. Who wouldn't want a tool that can bend all the different sizes of tubing on the car, right?

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=108722&d=1560290160

All the Eastwood stuff is working beautifully except for that tubing bender, which has been an endless source of frustration and wasted tubing for me. I started by trying to make the section of tubing that connects the two front brakes... the one that "V"s at the front cross brace. I ended up scrapping two 5' sections of tubing as I couldn't get accurately placed bends with that tool. Accurate angles. Sure. Accurate position? Forget about it. In the photo above, you can see that it's darn-near impossible to figure out where the "0" "R" and "L" marks are for 4 different tubing sizes.

I spent some time studying up on how to accurately bend tubing on Youtube, and the common theme was to get a good quality tubing bender (duh). So I picked up two Ridgid 600-series tubing benders (model 38028 for 3/16" tubing and model 38043 for 3/8" tubing). Wow. What a difference. Now, I'm not suggesting that one necessarily needs to spend this much to get good results, but I will suggest that there are three key features on these benders that make them FAR more accurate than the other bender:

1) dedicated bender for a single size of tubing
2) a clamp that locks the tube in position before bending
3) ability to clamp it in a vice to work (this one is not absolutely necessary but makes life sooooo much easier).

Here's the 3/16" bender clamped in my vice making some practice bends. I'm amazed at how accurately I can bend with this thing. I'm sure that a master tubing bender could easily make do with the cheaper tool but for someone like me that's doing this for the first time unnecessarily handcuffing myself with a cheap tool was driving me nuts.

(Rant over)

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=108721&d=1560290152

Jacob McCrea
06-11-2019, 05:34 PM
At least you got a good flaring tool on the first try. I tried the Harbor Freight one and the wing nut snapped and hit me in the eye the first time I used it.

JohnK
06-11-2019, 05:41 PM
We should start a "don't buy this tool" thread.

R. Button
06-11-2019, 10:15 PM
Good tools are with you for life!
I still have some Mongomery Ward screwdrivers that just fit my hand right and some older craftsman tools. They are the tools I reach for when I'm working. My old faithful snapon timing light always works ... the new xenon timing light sometimes does not fire... I can't get it to work the same every time. I'm sure others have had the same experience.
Good tools do last a lifetime!

Tree
06-12-2019, 02:12 PM
Dang, I just bought a multi sized tubing bender from OTC on amazon. Hopefully it will work a bit better then the Eastwood one. I have been a bit worried about this stage of the build but I am just going to use the Nickle Copper line to make it easier. Do you think I should just buy a Rigid tool now and not even bother trying the bender that is made for three different sizes?

JohnK
06-12-2019, 02:39 PM
Since you already bought it, give it a try. Nicopp is relatively cheap. I think I got a 25' roll on Amazon for $23 so it's not the end of the world if you give it a try and it doesn't work out. I know others have used that tool with success.

Papa
06-12-2019, 02:43 PM
I agree good tools make any job easier. I used that convoluted Eastwood bender to do my brake lines, and it does work. However, it is a real challenge to get the bend in the right place and with the right orientation. I used a Sharpie to mark the lines as I went. The clamping feature would be worth the cost difference alone!

AZPete
06-16-2019, 10:52 PM
For locating the bends and the orientation, are you using clothes hanger wire to make a model before bending the tubing?

JohnK
06-17-2019, 10:25 AM
No, i haven't been. I supposed I could but I'm using Nicopp as the template for the eventual stainless steel lines so making a template before making my template seemed a little redundant. My problem so far has not been figuring out where I want my bends, it's been being able to put that bend in the tube where I want it, so I'm not really sure that making a template out of wire first would help a whole lot.