Carpet Glue

[Al_C]

Tomorrow is carpeting day. (standard issue FFR carpeting + whatever I find for the trunk later today). I'm mounting it on top of Cool It Thermo Tec.
I've been reading a number of carpeting threads and it seems that some use the 3M product and some use silicone. Left to my own devices, I'd probably go with the 3M77 as that's what the manual suggests.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=107699&d=1558450925

I have both on hand. Any strong opinions either way? Any other valuable "lessons learned"?

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Did the FFR carpet over Thermo Tec. Used 3M 90 spray adhesive. 10K miles DD & no separation. Also used 3M 90 on the dash, console & transmission cover.

Not sure but IIRC the 90 has better resistance to heat then the 77.

[michael everson]

Ditch the 77 and get the 90. You will need at least 4 cans.
mike

[swwebb]

I just did my carpet a few months ago. I like silicon because it gives you a chance to move the carpet around. With the glue, there was a limited opportunity to move it around.

[Papa]

3M77 or 90. Easy to apply to the carpet pieces and then put the carpet in place. You can also remove it and reposition it if you need to while the adhesive is still tacky. Even after the glue dries, you can get the carpet off if you need to and simply reapply adhesive to put it back down.

[Jeff Kleiner]

I've had good experiences using 77 on both surfaces. If your cockpit insulation isn't black pick up a can of spray paint and shoot all of the inside corners and places where the carpet pieces meet so that any small gaps will be pretty much hidden:

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=107700&d=1558466491

Wear nitrile gloves!!! If you don't your hands will be covered in black fur :)

Jeff

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[skidd]

I only finished a few months ago with the carpet in mine. so, I can't comment on the longevity of my method.. but.. I used indoor/outdoor double-sided carpet tape from Home Depot. Think I needed about 8-9 boxes of the stuff.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Roberts-Indoor-or-Outdoor-15-ft-Double-Sided-Carpet-Tape-Roll-50-605-12/204470902
https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/e2ef6f31-3169-4351-8d77-1e48f2b69467/svn/roberts-floor-tape-50-605-12-64_145.jpg
No mess and schmoo everywhere. I'm pretty pleased with how it has turned out so far. But, only time will tell if it stands up. Optimistically, I think if I have to replace any part of my carpet, this method will be easier to remove compared to glue. It's supposed to soften up enough with heat to be removed. But.. won't know until that day comes. Warning though.. similar to Contact Glue, the carpet is not really re-positionable once stuck down. Any attempt to pull the carpet back up, pulls the black fibers right through the backing. So.. good aim matters!!

[Joecobr]

I used almost a full gallon of DAP Wellwood Contact Adhesive intended for vinyl landau tops. I did the dash, cabin and trunk with it. Caution, it is very tacky and you have just seconds to get the piece in place. The driver's footbox was particularly challenging. Results are terrific. The stuff can tolerate high heat. I figured if it can resist all that is thrown at it on the roof of a car it must be OK. I brushed it on.

[GFX2043mtu]

I used weldwood jell. It doesn’t run as it’s applied with a brush so no overspray and it’s solid as can be when set up. Plus it’s not as expensive as the spray can stuff.

[rich grsc]

Second Wildwood adhesive. No messy overspray, and you can apply it to sections of the carpet as you go, thus being able to 'roll' the carpet into place on those tough spots.

[swwebb]

I used almost a full gallon of DAP Wellwood Contact Adhesive intended for vinyl landau tops. I did the dash, cabin and trunk with it. Caution, it is very tacky and you have just seconds to get the piece in place. The driver's footbox was particularly challenging. Results are terrific. The stuff can tolerate high heat. I figured if it can resist all that is thrown at it on the roof of a car it must be OK. I brushed it on.

TOTALLY AGREE that the driver's footbox is a real challenge in positioning the carpet pieces. The passenger footbox is not as bad but still has limited access.

[Al_C]

Thanks, everyone! I'll post photos when it's complete.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

I carpeted the outside panel of the footbox last as a separate piece. Did the inside pieces then riveted the carpeted outer panel on. Made the job pretty easy.

[silver_pilate]

For those that used silicone, how did you do it? I have an Koolmat from Mark at Breeze that has a silicone-based back, so I will need to use silicone to secure the carpet. Are you laying down beads and then placing carpet? If so, how close together are the beads? Are you laying down beads and then spreading out the silicone prior to placing the carpet?

I guess my question is how much and where to secure the FFR supplied carpet? Thanks!

--Nathan

[j.miller]

NAPA brand spray adhesive is about as close to upholstery gorilla snot in a can that you can get. I love the stuff....daBat……..and a paper bag and I'm good to go. TMI

[Railroad]

Use black silicone, no need to paint the corners black, clean the surface before applying.
Spread the silicone, do not use beads or lines.
Use a spreader, like used for bondo.
Use the roller on the carpet, same as Cool Tec. Do not get silicone on the roller.
The carpet will move, and can be lifted, if necessary.
I have some tips for the trans tunnel and cover, if you are using the supplied carpet.
Do the sides first, the floor last.
Put the carpet out on a flat surface, let set, to get the wrinkles and folds out.
I used bags of shot, on sheet metal and boards to hold the carpet down, until set. Bricks or weights will do the same. The spring loaded plastic clamps are good for holding the edges in place.
If anything comes up, just holler.

[silver_pilate]

Use black silicone, no need to paint the corners black, clean the surface before applying.
Spread the silicone, do not use beads or lines.
Use a spreader, like used for bondo.
Use the roller on the carpet, same as Cool Tec. Do not get silicone on the roller.
The carpet will move, and can be lifted, if necessary.
I have some tips for the trans tunnel and cover, if you are using the supplied carpet.
Do the sides first, the floor last.
Put the carpet out on a flat surface, let set, to get the wrinkles and folds out.
If anything comes up, just holler.

Great information. Thanks!

[Railroad]

Great information. Thanks!

I added a few more tips.