Hallibrand rims with or without allan key screws?

[UpNorth]

Hi all,
First real build question here.
So I received my Hallibrand rims and I noticed an allan key hole on the side of the spinners.
See picture please.
But no allan screws in the box...
The question is: Should I have received some allan key screws with them spinners?
Thanks in advance.

[Papa]

Mine came with the set screws, but I've seen a few posts that recommend against using them as they can damage the threads on the hub and cause the spinners to get stuck. I haven't installed mine yet, so I have no experience either way.

[Jeff Kleiner]

They should have come with the wheels...and if they had the best thing to do is throw 'em away. So at this moment you're right where you need to be :)

Jeff

[UpNorth]

Lol! Thanks guys!

[John Dol]

They should be Allen heads with a nylon tip so they don’t damage the threads.

Jeff why do you say not to put them on?
I lost mine but bought some at McMaster

John

[Jeff Kleiner]

They should be Allen heads with a nylon tip so they don’t damage the threads.

Jeff why do you say not to put them on?

John

Because I've gotten cars in that have had the threads boogered even when the nylon tipped setscrews were used. When the hub and spinners are installed on the correct side of the car they don't want to loosen (unless you do lots of high speed driving in reverse :))

Jeff

[Papa]

If you want to be sure they won't come off and for an authentic look, you can safety wire them on.

[JohnK]

If you want to be sure they won't come off and for an authentic look, you can safety wire them on.

This is what I plan to do. Not only because I like the look, but because I bought a pair of safety wire pliers for the Wilwood rotor bolts and now I'm in search of what else I can safety wire so these darn pliers aren't a 'one time use' item. As they say, "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail." LOL.

[P100DHG]

This is what I plan to do. Not only because I like the look, but because I bought a pair of safety wire pliers for the Wilwood rotor bolts and now I'm in search of what else I can safety wire so these darn pliers aren't a 'one time use' item. As they say, "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail." LOL.
Lol fantastic. I was thinking the same thing.

[John Dol]

Because I've gotten cars in that have had the threads boogered even when the nylon tipped setscrews were used. When the hub and spinners are installed on the correct side of the car they don't want to loosen (unless you do lots of high speed driving in reverse :))

Jeff

Ok good to know, thanks Jeff

John

[Erik W. Treves]

I never installed mine and only put them on hand tight... just make sure you put them on , on the correct sides so they don't loosen as you drive. Make sure you still use anti-seize on the threads as well!

[Derald Rice]

TIP for those who want to use safety wire, get a section of aquarium clear rubber tubing to put over the wire so that the wire does not harm the finish on the wheels or spinner. The reason for the specific aquarium tubing is that it is rubber not vinyl, and it will not deteriorate due to UV .

[UpNorth]

TIP for those who want to use safety wire, get a section of aquarium clear rubber tubing to put over the wire so that the wire does not harm the finish on the wheels or spinner. The reason for the specific aquarium tubing is that it is rubber not vinyl, and it will not deteriorate due to UV .

Can you please provide a pic of your wire installation for the uneducated like me?
TIA

[Papa]

Here's a picture of a non-pin drive wheel with safety wired spinner.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=100697&d=1547413667

[mburger]

I would put more slack in the wire. If the spinner starts to loosen, which it never should, the wire would be tight and you’d know there’s an issue.

[Dave Howard]

There's lots of discussion about spinners. A few mods oUT there too. I've got a boat load of miles on my Coyote/MkIV and have never had a spinner issue. Mounted on the correct side, the spinners are handtight...not pounded on with a rubber hammer. They are for show only...no function. The supplied set screws have never let me down. AGAIN, don't over do it when you tighten the setscrew. Get a bite and that's enough. I like the looks of safety wire, but don't like the idea of installing new wire every time I take a wheel off.

[cgundermann]

IF you choose to use the set screws (and I appreciate the logic not to use), the nylon tips on the set screws are not substantial and do fall out. You can simply cut a short bit of neon weed eater nylon and use in lieu of...

Chris