guardsman blue paint code

[BAUTO]

looking to see if anyone has the paint code for guardsman blue
thank you inadvance Bob

[Jeff Kleiner]

Guardsman Blue is Ford #1622-A. The OEM code is F, also D-F. I use all PPG products and their number is 12832. If you go with PPG I really suggest that you use the Deltron line which produces a richer color in this formula.

Jeff

[Hotyacht]

Jeff is the expert so he knows where to look, but just to give an additional option......I have been looking at various colours and one is the good old Guardsman Blue with Wimbledon White stripes. I have also looked at using the PPG range and there are 2 different Guardsman Blue options - one is the Ford colour that Jeff has noted, the other is the AC Cars colour of the same name. My understanding is that the Ford colour was used on the Mustangs, Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxy etc. and the AC colour was used on the Cobra, at least the earlier ones. Essentially the colour is the same, but the metal flake is different with the AC colour having a much finer flake - I think it looks nicer than the Ford version.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?autocolor=4424M&rows=50&syear=1965&smanuf=AC%20Cars&smodel=&sname=Guardsman%20Blue

[Jeff Kleiner]

Jeff is the expert so he knows where to look, but just to give an additional option......I have been looking at various colours and one is the good old Guardsman Blue with Wimbledon White stripes. I have also looked at using the PPG range and there are 2 different Guardsman Blue options - one is the Ford colour that Jeff has noted, the other is the AC Cars colour of the same name. My understanding is that the Ford colour was used on the Mustangs, Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxy etc. and the AC colour was used on the Cobra, at least the earlier ones. Essentially the colour is the same, but the metal flake is different with the AC colour having a much finer flake - I think it looks nicer than the Ford version.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?autocolor=4424M&rows=50&syear=1965&smanuf=AC%20Cars&smodel=&sname=Guardsman%20Blue

This is why I recommended going with the PPG Deltron line vs. PPG's Omni Plus/Shopline---the Deltron Guardsman formula has two different size metals rather than one as well as additional toners. Here are a couple of Deltron Guardsman blue cars that I've done. This color in a sample by itself doesn't look like much but when it goes on the shape of these cars it totally transforms!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97541&d=1542313635

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97540&d=1503936392

Cheers,
Jeff

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[FLPBFoot]

This is why I recommended going with the PPG Deltron line vs. PPG's Omni Plus/Shopline---the Deltron Guardsman formula has two different size metals rather than one as well as additional toners. Here are a couple of Deltron Guardsman blue cars that I've done. This color in a sample by itself doesn't look like much but when it goes on the shape of these cars it totally transforms!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97541&d=1542313635

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97540&d=1503936392

Cheers,
Jeff

9754097541

Jeff,

I know you've sent me these pictures before but I have to say it again - Man you do nice work!!

Steve

[j.miller]

Omni plus is nice but ya otta see it in water base....jus sayin....lol....da Bat

[Bob Brandle]

This post question is directed mostly to both of the Painting Master Jeffs (Miller & Kleiner). The below one-off Tribute to Carroll Shelby Cobra GT500 (Mustang), that was built in 2012, is described by Ford as Guardsman Blue with Wimbledon White Stripes. This "Guardsman Blue" is certainly not the more traditional hue nor darkness (etc.) we typically see used and nor at all what is shown above as Guardsman Blue. I fully respect the accuracy of the Guardsman Blues seen above in this thread, but I'm drawn to this GT500s version of "Guardsman Blue" due to it being different and also a middle ground bridge between FFR Vintage Racing Blue and the above shown Guardsman Blues. To me, besides the hue and darkness of this Tribute GT500 Guardsman Blue it looks like the paint a custom mix and is not a metallic, but might be a pure pearl. Do either of you think that this paint could be re-created?...by you? I received my FFR Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe just two months ago and thus probably have nine months to a year before it's ready for painting, but I'm doing my advanced research. Such a re-creation wouldn't have to be perfect, since I'm not trying to match paint for repair of some body panels to be placed on a car already with this paint. Jeff Miller, since I'm located in Arizona, this is probably a more pertinent question for you for a possible painting. Your thoughts.

Bob

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97558&d=1542401721

[Hotyacht]

This post question is directed mostly to both of the Painting Master Jeffs (Miller & Kleiner). The below one-off Tribute to Carroll Shelby Cobra GT500 (Mustang), that was built in 2012, is described by Ford as Guardsman Blue with Wimbledon White Stripes. This "Guardsman Blue" is certainly not the more traditional hue nor darkness (etc.) we typically see used and nor at all what is shown above as Guardsman Blue. I fully respect the accuracy of the Guardsman Blues seen above in this thread, but I'm drawn to this GT500s version of "Guardsman Blue" due to it being different and also a middle ground bridge between FFR Vintage Racing Blue and the above shown Guardsman Blues. To me, besides the hue and darkness of this Tribute GT500 Guardsman Blue it looks like the paint a custom mix and is not a metallic, but might be a pure pearl. Do either of you think that this paint could be re-created?...by you? I received my FFR Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe just two months ago and thus probably have nine months to a year before it's ready for painting, but I'm doing my advanced research. Such a re-creation wouldn't have to be perfect, since I'm not trying to match paint for repair of some body panels to be placed on a car already with this paint. Jeff Miller, since I'm located in Arizona, this is probably a more pertinent question for you for a possible painting. Your thoughts.

Bob

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97558&d=1542401721

It is always difficult to tell from photos as the filtering of the photo and each person's screen settings may be different, but I agree that this is more like the AC version of Guardsman Blue and I have often heard people say that the Guardsman Blue is not metallic - I think that this is because it has the very fine metal flake. I prefer the more subdued look as well and it does worry me when I see the more intense blue of the car that Jeff has posted.

[j.miller]

It is always difficult to tell from photos as the filtering of the photo and each person's screen settings may be different, but I agree that this is more like the AC version of Guardsman Blue and I have often heard people say that the Guardsman Blue is not metallic - I think that this is because it has the very fine metal flake. I prefer the more subdued look as well and it does worry me when I see the more intense blue of the car that Jeff has posted.


BINGO. It's a picture of a color …..sorry it = nada. The only way to get as close as possible is to get the color code from that car...or a part from the car to match it. Looking at the picture I see no less then 12 shades of the same color. Customers show me a picture and say "I want this blue" I point out all the different blues and say "which one"....they say "Oh". Then we go to the chip book and they pick the one they believe is the closest to what they have seen.....IT'S JUST BLUE...HOW HARD COULD IT BE ! lol...da Bat

[Bob Brandle]

Jeff, Thanks for your response. As I expected, there are so many variables, colors on screen images differ from PC/screen to PC/screen, as well as even the eyes of people do vary, plus different surface parts of the car reflecting the light differently. I guess I could pick one specific limited area of this car and try to go from there, but bottom line it's not paint we're actually even looking at here. Something for me to explore next year with actual paints, paint codes and test mixtures. LOL, maybe I'll just have to find this one of one GT500 and get the needed information.
Bob

[Jeff Kleiner]

.....IT'S JUST BLUE...HOW HARD COULD IT BE ! lol...da Bat

Color code JAC ;)

Jeff

[j.miller]

I know ! Right !