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karlos
10-19-2018, 08:36 PM
It’s with a mixture of joy and sadness that I submit MK4 #8641 for graduation. Joy because, well…just look at the thing! Sadness because this means the end of what has been a rewarding and fulfilling journey. One door closes, another one opens…

Would like to start by acknowledging the good folks that helped along the way, particularly the folks that participate in this forum. Kleiner, Miller (more on him later), Edwardb, DaleG, carlewms, cgundermann, to name just a few. Hard to say how many times you all saved me from myself. Thanks for keeping a rookie builder out of trouble.

Also should acknowledge the handful of really outstanding vendors that supplied superior parts and equally superior support to go with. Mark at Breeze, Mike at Replica Parts, Russ at Russ’s Roadster Shop, Chris at Dark Water Customs. I should have just ordered one of everything Mark sells, as I think I ended up there anyway. Pretty much the same with Mike.

MK4 kit #8641 received in July of 2015. Almost exactly 3 years to the day to get the car on the road, licensed, titled, and registered. No record build time here to be sure, but not too bad considering I’m still chained to a desk for 40+ hours every week. My goal was to build a modern interpretation of the original car. Not an exact replica per se, but a car that’s true to the original while incorporating modern updates (fuel injection, big brakes, keyless start, etc.). I’m particularly happy with how the engine came out. Because of the clever way Pro-M is able to hide the MAF sensor within a standard looking air cleaner, the motor appears like an old school carbureted mill. But it’s a full computer-controlled, port injected, OBD-II compliant, fuel and spark controlled wolf in sheep’s clothing.


On to the specs.

MK4 complete kit
Independent rear suspension w/3.55 gears, Eaton Detroit Truetrac, and Ford Racing girdle
Wilwood brakes, 12.88” front, 12.19” rear, w/remote balance bar adjuster
Ford Racing Z427 w/Pro-M EFI engine management system
TKO600 5-speed transmission w/McLeod mid shifter & Hurst line lock
Bodywork & paint by Jeff Miller
Paint protection film & ceramic coating
Full leather interior w/competition dash including glovebox & keyless start
Koolmat insulation applied over entire cockpit
Heater w/electronic control valve
Breeze quiet pipes, top & bottom radiator mounts, radiator shroud, radiator hard tubes, seat mounts, front battery mount, dead pedal, alternator fuse kit, and wind wing side mirrors
Replica parts radiator aluminum, under dash panel, shifter and seat belt trim rings, roll bar and windshield trim plates, firewall support, trunk support kit, steering shaft bezel, and shifter boot
Watson’s Streetworks LED headlights
Russ Thompson turn signal system
Earl’s 13-row oil cooler w/braided stainless lines
Alex’s wheel well liners
Schroth Profi II ASM FE (cam lock) 4-point Racing harnesses
Bluetooth sound system
Powder coated Halibrand replica wheels w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 tires
Fully carpeted trunk
Rear quick jack delete


1st most asked question: does it have a 427?
2nd most asked question: who did the paint?

So on the subject of paint. Decided to send the car to Jeff Miller to have him work his magic. Decided to have him go ahead and mount the windshield as well. So as he’s reassembling the car after paint he cuts his hand on something behind the dash. Not really a cut so much as a scratch. He sends me this photo.


https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95847&d=1539998210



As I said, really just a scratch. But he’s going on and on about how my car just ruined his life. I tell him, Geez, man - rub some dirt on it. And then I get this photo back.


https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95848&d=1539998217



Check out how reflective the paint is, he says. Yeah, uh-huh, looks great, Jeff. Wait a minute - is he...? And so we now have photographic proof that, at Miller Customs, the customer is always # 1.


Customer service aside ;), the quality of the paint job speaks for itself. To my eye the roadster body style is simultaneously curvy, pretty, and bad azz. And I think black has a way of accentuating all those things at the same time. Jeff really came through with a basically flawless application of a color that is commonly acknowledged to be one of the most difficult to do well. Extremely happy with how it turned out. Jeff…you’re # 1, too, buddy!


The photos.


https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95826&d=1539996816

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95827&d=1539996823

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95828&d=1539996833

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karlos
10-19-2018, 08:38 PM
Continued from above...


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karlos
10-19-2018, 08:43 PM
Continued from above...

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karlos
10-19-2018, 08:43 PM
Continued from above...

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95845&d=1539997938

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95846&d=1539997947



As I would like to give something back as a measure of appreciation for all the people who have helped me along the way, I offer up the following.

1. Revised body buck drawings. I know many folks have no use for a body buck and are perfectly content to set the body on the floor and not worry about it. For everyone else, an update to the body buck drawings to match the contour of the MK4 body may be of use (the plans provided in the MK4 build manual are outdated and are actually for the MK3). Now maybe it doesn’t matter all that much, but if you’re gonna build a buck from scratch, it’s no harder to build it with the right profile than it is to build it with the wrong profile. Updated drawings can be found here: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?18515-Mk4-Rear-Body-Buck

2. Steering rack setup: MK4 build manual is a little lacking on the specifics regarding how to properly set up the roadster steering rack. There is interaction between the rack, the front end alignment, the steering wheel alignment, the steering shaft position, and the number of turns center to full-lock-left and full-lock-right that isn’t immediately obvious. This thread fills in some detail that the build manual leaves out: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?19175-Steering-Rack-Install-Setup-Procedure

3. Pinion angle: In my estimation, this is the single most misunderstood topic in all of roadster-land. The term ‘pinion angle’ is a large part of the problem, as proper driveline setup should involve more than just looking at the pinion angle. This may help de-mystify: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?22594-Driveline-Setup-(aka-Pinion-Angle)

Time to see what’s beyond that other door. Thinking something with a bow-tie and a 572 big-block…:cool:


Carry on,

-Karl
October 2018

Straversi
10-20-2018, 12:21 AM
Congratulations. Bad-*** and beautiful. What a great combination.
You really did a nice job with this one. Go enjoy it now.
Let us know where you drop that 572.
-Steve

wareaglescott
10-20-2018, 05:39 AM
Spectacular looking build. Congrats and enjoy many miles.

I really like how you blacked out the wheels, pipes, and roll bars yet left the chrome accents on the windshield and head/ tail light bezels and some interior bits. Really a sharp looking combo.

tonywy
10-20-2018, 06:47 AM
Stunning, absolutely stunning. I usually don't comment on other people's builds but this one is beautiful. Great job.

BadAsp427
10-20-2018, 07:04 AM
WOW, Fantastic....

Thanks for what you left for everyone to learn from and aspire to...

KDubU
10-20-2018, 07:10 AM
Beautiful! Very nicely done. Love what you did with the engine and hid all the EFI stuff. It is one of the things I don’t like about EFI is the additional clutter. Paint looks fantastic and the blacked out wheels and rollbar is really nice.

Jeff Kleiner
10-20-2018, 07:16 AM
Excellent Karl! Now go enjoy putting some miles on :)

Jeff

Papa
10-20-2018, 07:59 AM
Beautiful! Are you a member of Mile-Hi Cobra Club?

Geoff H
10-20-2018, 09:24 AM
I echo the other comments - your car looks amazing! Nicely done!

j.miller
10-20-2018, 09:24 AM
I gotta tell ya I was a little worried when you started with the whole "one door closes , one door opens" CAUSE I'M PRETTY DARN SURE BOTH DOORS WERE WORKING PROPERLY WHEN IT LEFT THE SHOP ! but I digress.....car looks awesome brother, thanks for the props....just think how it would look if I liked you.....STILL # UNO !! lol...da Bat

j.miller
10-20-2018, 09:38 AM
Oh ! Karl ! One mans scratch is another mans "coup de gras" SO DON'T TRY TO MINIMIZE THE DAMAGE TO MY BODY ! ok, it was more of a scuff on my old man thin skin.....But when I go into hysterics there is just no consoling me. "Rub some dirt on it" he says......and then what ! WASH IT OFF WITH A GARDEN HOSE !.....and then what ? Ride my Stingray in the neighborhood until the street lights come on......OOOOOHHHHHH! MY MOM USED TO TELL ME TO "RUB DIRT ON IT".....it,s all flooding back ! NOT !..da Bat

JohnK
10-20-2018, 10:53 AM
Absolutely stunning! I'm getting ready to order a Mk4 kiit myself, and I've been debating some aesthetic choices. I was pretty set in my mind that it was going to be either red or blue with white stripes and polished roll bars and side pipes. Then... I showed these pictures to the family and after we all stopped drooling enough to compose ourselves the whole family unanimously said "DO THAT!" OK then, black it is. Very well done sir!

cgundermann
10-20-2018, 04:41 PM
Karl ~

I’m not sorry I triggered or guilted you in to posting your graduation photos (I thought I had missed them). I got tell you, it’s absoluty gorgeous and as you know - I’m totally into the blacked out Batman look. Speaking of that, Miller usually has accidents when he’s drinking, so I’m glad your paint turned out so well...you don’t want to know what was reflected on my paint’s cut/polish pic...

As I imagined, your build was extremely meticulous and lots of really nice quality touches and great ideas. I like the look of the rear quick jack delete, it really accuenates the rear hips. Like Scott mentioned, the satin wheels, roll bar and pipes, but - with the splash of chrome up top plays really well. The leather interior and how you finished the front cowl opening and rear trunk is flawless. Great job hiding the Pro-M Racing wiring to keep that old school look. Perfect craftsmanship...my heart belongs to my Medusa, but your girl is a stunning head turner!

The red button on your shifter, nitrous some day? I ordered my knob from Speed Dawg and saw those...they're cool - I was tempted...

I hope you are having a blast driving it - it NEVER gets old!

Congratulations my friend,

Chris

mlewis
10-20-2018, 05:32 PM
Gorgeous ride.

Nicely done.

Congrats.

Phil2044
10-20-2018, 08:48 PM
Beautiful! Black may be difficult, but your car shows that done well black highlights every elegant element. I hope you have many years of pleasure. Phil

DANW
10-20-2018, 09:31 PM
What a beautiful car, the paint is amazing.. enjoy the ride,
Dan

karlos
10-20-2018, 09:55 PM
Comments much appreciated. Thanks all. I'll try to hit all the questions.

Steve: Where will I drop that 572? On my foot, most likely. Real Deal Steel makes brand new reproduction Camaro bodies. Make mine a 1969. Will end up being titled as an assembled vehicle, just like this one.

Scott: Thank you. Thought about powder coating some of the chrome bits, but chrome is not the easiest stuff to remove. Decided to go with a mixture of black and chrome and to try to tie it all together. Pretty happy with the outcome.

Dave: Not a member of the Mile High Cobra club yet, but I owe you all a debt of gratitude for pushing through the legislation to exempt assembled vehicles from the state emissions requirements. Cause I gotta tell you, this thing would never pass!

Bat: Thanks for the visual. Please tell me you don't wear spandex when you cruise the neighborhood on your Schwinn.

Chris: Thanks for the push to finally get some photos posted. The red button is for the roll control (line lock). Allows me to liquefy the rear tires without any need of nitrous :)

GoDadGo
10-21-2018, 06:51 AM
Looks Like A Future Best In Show Winner To Me!

....Congratulations On An Over The Top, Yet Tastefully Executed MK-4!

cgundermann
10-21-2018, 09:45 AM
Comments much appreciated. Thanks all. I'll try to hit all the questions.

Steve: Where will I drop that 572? On my foot, most likely. Real Deal Steel makes brand new reproduction Camaro bodies. Make mine a 1969. Will end up being titled as an assembled vehicle, just like this one.

Scott: Thank you. Thought about powder coating some of the chrome bits, but chrome is not the easiest stuff to remove. Decided to go with a mixture of black and chrome and to try to tie it all together. Pretty happy with the outcome.

Dave: Not a member of the Mile High Cobra club yet, but I owe you all a debt of gratitude for pushing through the legislation to exempt assembled vehicles from the state emissions requirements. Cause I gotta tell you, this thing would never pass!

Bat: Thanks for the visual. Please tell me you don't wear spandex when you cruise the neighborhood on your Schwinn.

Chris: Thanks for the push to finally get some photos posted. The red button is for the roll control (line lock). Allows me to liquefy the rear tires without any need of nitrous :)

Very very trick location for the line lock button. Referring to the Camaro, that’s my wife’s dream ride and I’ve recently priced out one of their new/modified repopped bodies.

Chris

Al_C
10-22-2018, 08:48 AM
Very, very nice! Selfishly, it makes me feel better that it took you three years. You're just 9 frames ahead of mine! Congratulations on a beautiful build!

Paul2STL
10-22-2018, 01:43 PM
Very nice love the blacked out look!

RMB
10-22-2018, 05:50 PM
Car looks awesome! What color are the wheels, and are they powder coated?

Rob

karlos
10-22-2018, 09:26 PM
Yes, wheels are powder coated. Here is the specific powder. There's also a clear top coat to enhance the gloss.


https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96040&d=1540261360

frankb
10-23-2018, 07:51 AM
I will echo what others have already said...Beautiful! Nice work!