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Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 10:51 AM
Hi Guys,

Where is a good place to find pictures of engine compartments of the original Cobras? I just want to get some ideas for making mine look more vintage. When I do a search on google I'm not sure if what I'm looking at is authentic original or a recreation.

Thanks!

Big Blocker
08-23-2018, 01:57 PM
Yama-Bro,

type "Shelby cobra engine compartment" in Google [images] and then pick out the ones that match your build - 289 or 427, they were completely different.

If the picture has too much chrome, it's probably not "original", if it has a Coyote, it's definitively not "original". Look for the generator regulator mounted on the firewall along with the wiring connection / fuse blocks, those were "original" builds.

If it's too clean-n-shiny, it's not real . . .

Doc

Derald Rice
08-23-2018, 02:30 PM
Go to the shelby museum open house on sept 1 in boulder co. There will be originals in the parking lot and you can take all the photos you want.

The cars inside the museum will be roped off and close up access is not allowed, but those outside usually have the owners nearby and are very willing to let you take the photos and ask anything you want to know.

Any photo credited to Dave Friedman is an original.

KDubU
08-23-2018, 03:36 PM
Are you looking for the 289 or 427/428?

Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 03:50 PM
Go to the shelby museum open house on sept 1 in boulder co. There will be originals in the parking lot and you can take all the photos you want.

The cars inside the museum will be roped off and close up access is not allowed, but those outside usually have the owners nearby and are very willing to let you take the photos and ask anything you want to know.

Any photo credited to Dave Friedman is an original.

Man, I've really wanted to go to that place for several years. That sounds like the perfect weekend to go. I think I have other things going on...like my 8 year olds bday party. Thanks for the heads up though.

Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 03:51 PM
Are you looking for the 289 or 427/428?

289/small block, but I'm interested in seeing the differences.

Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 03:52 PM
Yama-Bro,

type "Shelby cobra engine compartment" in Google [images] and then pick out the ones that match your build - 289 or 427, they were completely different.

If the picture has too much chrome, it's probably not "original", if it has a Coyote, it's definitively not "original". Look for the generator regulator mounted on the firewall along with the wiring connection / fuse blocks, those were "original" builds.

If it's too clean-n-shiny, it's not real . . .

Doc

Thanks, good tips

cnutting
08-23-2018, 04:03 PM
289/small block, but I'm interested in seeing the differences.

Street, race....? Sorry, more choices for you instead of narrowing it down...

CraigS
08-23-2018, 04:33 PM
Google.

Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 07:50 PM
Street, race....? Sorry, more choices for you instead of narrowing it down...

Probably leaning more towards the competition side, but not completely sure. I'm not necessarily going for a dead on recreation, just want to make it look a little more vintage under the hood. If there are elements from the street and comp versions, I'd be ok with it.

Jimtmich
08-23-2018, 08:40 PM
Hi Guys,

Where is a good place to find pictures of engine compartments of the original Cobras? I just want to get some ideas for making mine look more vintage. When I do a search on google I'm not sure if what I'm looking at is authentic original or a recreation.

Thanks!
Csx2350 at road America a few weeks ago. 289 car, tracked a lot, wrecked so it got More 427 looking rear...

Gumball
08-23-2018, 08:51 PM
I'm sort of a Cobra stalker.... so here you go......

CSX2350 is a WI car, so I also have a bunch of pics, but won't share them as you already have a few above.

Here's CSX2323, Gurney's Targa Florio car....

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/CSX2323_gurneytargaflorio648ip_zps2238bf0b.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/CSX2323_gurneytargaflorio648ip_zps2238bf0b.jpg.htm l)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111514009_HDR_zpscdcd3f82.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111514009_HDR_zpscdcd3f82.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111507150_zps61e08b75.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111507150_zps61e08b75.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111503914_zps1b4879b7.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111503914_zps1b4879b7.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111213351_zps4c67370a.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111213351_zps4c67370a.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111138604_zps0e326e23.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/CSX2323/IMG_20140718_111138604_zps0e326e23.jpg.html)

Gumball
08-23-2018, 08:53 PM
Various cars from the Shelby American Collection in Boulder, CO....

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3548.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3548.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3563.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3563.jpg.html)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3568.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/Shelby%20American%20Museum/img_3568.jpg.html)

Gumball
08-23-2018, 09:01 PM
And here is my FFR dressed as a big-block (really a 347 with adapters and big-block valve covers)....

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/IMG_20140906_170352452_HDR_zps77bc48f2.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/IMG_20140906_170352452_HDR_zps77bc48f2.jpg.html)

And as a small block.....

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/CCRsAC/IMG_20150901_195649037_HDR_zps68opfdfv.jpg (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/CCRsAC/media/IMG_20150901_195649037_HDR_zps68opfdfv.jpg.html)

Straversi
08-23-2018, 09:48 PM
Look up the FFR 289 built by Erik Treves called Black Mamba. That’s about as true a reproduction of an original as you will find. I looked at that build and compared it to some photos from a book on Cobras that I had borrowed from a friend. Black Mamba is dead on.
Steve

Yama-Bro
08-23-2018, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the pics! I really, really, like those webers. I just wish they were cheaper. :(

Gumball, your car is one of my favs. I found your old list of upgrades from a post from years ago. I went thru it and marked the ones I am planning to do. Getting some ideas. I also ran into your post about making a degas tank. I may give that a try.

Staversi, I'll do some looking for the black mamba.

phileas_fogg
08-24-2018, 06:50 AM
Here's Erik's build thread for the Black Mamba: https://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-factory-five-roadsters/434569-black-mamba-289-fia-build.html


John

Erik W. Treves
08-24-2018, 07:02 AM
Thanks Folks...

here is the thread on this site in the 289 section...I hate all the advertisements on the other forum

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?14736-quot-The-Black-Mamba-quot-build

good luck... i spent countless nights doing research ...

Yama-Bro
08-24-2018, 02:04 PM
Wow! Erik, that's amazing work. I'm not sure how I missed that one. I've been a background reader on this site for years. I just don't spend a lot of time in the 289 forum. It kind of makes me wish I ordered one of those instead. I read thru your whole build thread. I definitely got some ideas. Thanks! One question...do you still have the car? I noticed you built several. I wasn't sure if you keep them all or cycled thru them.

Erik W. Treves
08-24-2018, 08:41 PM
Thanks.... I get bored pretty easy and need to keep moving...so I sold the mamba to a great fellow... I do miss that car though... it was quite a fun car … sounded awesome