Herb's 35 CHEVY truck build

[herb fraser]

90815Let the festivities begin !!!! ( did I spell that right ?) Picked up my truck number 10 thanking Dave smith for a great product !!!!
Well I now have number 10 in my garage and started the build , can you guess what color I am going to paint !
and yep I am putting in a chevy 350 small block 360 hp

running no fenders no hood and no side engine panels!
well maybe motorcycle type fenders on the front
here are a couple of pics
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so I need a little practice adding pic LOL

[wallace18]

Looking good Herb! You are on your way now.

[herb fraser]

Looking good Herb! You are on your way now.
going to be a long road without the build manual LOL

[FFinisher]

Let the festivities begin !!!! ( did I spell that right ?)
Well I now have number 10 in my garage and started the build , can you guess what color I am going to paint !
and yep I am putting in a chevy 350 small block 360 hp

running no fenders no hood and no side engine panels!
well maybe motorcycle type fenders on the front
here are a couple of pics
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so I need a little practice adding pic LOL

Yellow?



Do I get free door panels?

[GoDadGo]

Chevy Engines Love Any Color, Except Blue!

Just Kidding From: The Dad-Zone

Sorry Gang, But I Just Had To!

[herb fraser]

you guys are too funny !

[herb fraser]

its almost a half of roller now just the rear end but waiting for the third link !



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[wallace18]

Looking good! Herb you may want to reverse your top front shock bolts. If you ever want to change your front shocks or springs after you are done you would have to remove radiator or loosen all the brackets up. With the bolts reversed it it is easy for front shock work down the road. Just my 2-cents worth. I really like that yellow color.

[herb fraser]

Looking good! Herb you may want to reverse your top front shock bolts. If you ever want to change your front shocks or springs after you are done you would have to remove radiator or loosen all the brackets up. With the bolts reversed it it is easy for front shock work down the road. Just my 2-cents worth. I really like that yellow color.
Thanks Tom that why you are DA Man !!!!

[erlihemi]

I just gotta ask... will you put a chevy nose on it and a bow tie tailgate??? Looking great. Love the yellow. Pops out at ya.

[herb fraser]

thinkin about a bow tie ? nose will stay the same it ,will screw with people mind LOL

[herb fraser]

well did a little more making my own motorcycle fenders for my 35 , this is just a rough cut finished will of course be much nicer!
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[wallace18]

Looks great!

[herb fraser]

Thanks Tom , I still need to fab some brackets to install them

[herb fraser]

Got me a roller today !!! , we pushed it up the drive way and rode it down LOL, Here are a few pics of my progress !89249892508925189252

18 inch wheels on the front and 20,s on the back !

[wallace18]

Looking good!

[herb fraser]

Looking good!
Thanks Tom, it,s on its way , just need the build manual

[herb fraser]

Not much done on the truck, waiting on parts , but man its been very hot and the humidity is very high. So I spent tons of cash installing climate control in my garage ! Took days to install !

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[herb fraser]

Got a bunch done today
installed engine
installed headers - VERY tight fit but the made it ,the forth pic shows how close the headers are to the frame 3/8 inch clearance ?

installed tranny - have to make new tranny mounts they don't fit the chevy T350 , on the second pic you can see that the T350 tranny is not even close to the mount ,the reason it is to short is that the chevy engine has to move forward about 3 1/2 inches so ff make a plate that bolts onto the block and move the engine forward., thus make the tranny 3 1/2 short of the mount. but not big deal will make up a new mount plate.


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the guy in the pic is my buddy helping me

[GoDadGo]

Looking Good Fellow Chevy Guy, Looking Good!

[wallace18]

That is plenty of room. Looking good Herb!

[herb fraser]

That is plenty of room. Looking good Herb!
Yep it fits ! LOL

[David Hodgkins]

Hey Herb, the firewall looks great! Who did the engine turning? That engine bay gets 2 very enthusiastic thumbs up!

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[herb fraser]

Hey Herb, the firewall looks great! Who did the engine turning? That engine bay gets 2 very enthusiastic thumbs up!

:)
Thanks Dave , I did the turning. I used 3m pads on the 2 inch in my drill press , marked out with a sharpie . only took about one hour , I am very happy with the way it turned out , thanks Herb

[herb fraser]

Well after talking with Tony, I decided to move the engine back 3/4 of an inch to give more clearance for the headers .

here is a sketch of what I did 91079
Tony and guys at blue print approved this mod.

[herb fraser]

well I am thinking about removing the roll cage ( just the front and top sections and leaving only the roll bar on the back not sure I like the look of it . Any thoughts would be good.

[wallace18]

There must be a good reason FFR added that from the SEMA truck. I personally like the added safety. But to each his own.

[myjones]

well I am thinking about removing the roll cage ( just the front and top sections and leaving only the roll bar on the back not sure I like the look of it . Any thoughts would be good.

Herb
Is there anywhere high and up front that the cab attaches to the cage for support?
That cab looks pretty tall and with the fiberglass body and front hinged doors I would be worried
about cab shake at speed changing how the doors fit the body and rubbing away some paint.
DB

[herb fraser]

I am a little confused on the exhaust set up , does not look right to me , what do you think ?92304

[wallace18]

Herb, the early kits just got the 33 side exhaust. You will have to modify that pipe so it exits under the bed pointing down. That is why I had some custom stuff done. If you look in the Beta manual you will see what I mean.
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[herb fraser]

Well making a little progress. I am using copper tubing for many of the lines in the engine bay, overflow line , gas line, also will use copper for the heating lines.
going old school with a mechanical fuel pump.
For the wise observer you might notice that the alternator is now on the passenger side and not on the drivers side where I first put it, when it was on the drivers side it stuck past the engine compartment so it had to be moved.
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[herb fraser]

Herb, the early kits just got the 33 side exhaust. You will have to modify that pipe so it exits under the bed pointing down. That is why I had some custom stuff done. If you look in the Beta manual you will see what I mean.
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Tom well that kinda stinks , I guess I will talk to tony and see what they can do . If not I guess I will reconfigure it , Thanks again ,Herb

[Marv]

Actually I asked FFR about the pipes to bring the exhaust behind the cab shown in the manual and they will be supplying them to builders soon.

[herb fraser]

Actually I asked FFR about the pipes to bring the exhaust behind the cab shown in the manual and they will be supplying them to builders soon.
Excellent !

[rponfick]

Thanks for that good news on the pipes. I want them out the side also.

I did get a package from FFR yesterday with some new emergency brake components. Evidently there have been some changes there from the '33 parts, which I got with the kit. The toothed bracket is shorter and has some new attachment brackets.

Now, if I could just get the threaded shock adjusters.

Ralph

[herb fraser]

GOT SEATS !
full leather,came out of a 2018 mini van mid row seats
notice anything missing on my roll cage ?
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[wallace18]

Cool!:cool:

[Carl Hughes]

How do you get the beta manual?

[herb fraser]

How do you get the beta manual?
call Tony Zullo at factory five he will email it to you
Herb

[Carl Hughes]

Thank you!!!!!

[KDubU]

Really liking the build Herb. Honestly did not like the look of the truck when I first saw FF was creating one but have seen their completed one in the beautiful blue and it’s really nice. Totally changed my mind and can’t wait to see more trucks built and know yours will be a beauty!

[herb fraser]

Really liking the build Herb. Honestly did not like the look of the truck when I first saw FF was creating one but have seen their completed one in the beautiful blue and it’s really nice. Totally changed my mind and can’t wait to see more trucks built and know yours will be a beauty!
Kyle, thanks so much , I really love this truck !!!!!!!

[herb fraser]

Working on the gauge cluster. The veneer is chesnut burl, the finish is not even close to done still more coats and buff out , what do you think ?
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[wallace18]

Wow!

[herb fraser]

Wow!
Tom so I guess you approve LOL
Thanks Herb

[KDubU]

Very nice! Nice choice on the wood and those gauges look great.

[Marv]

Very nice, great idea!

[CVOBill]

Herb, the panel looks awesome and you have good taste in gauges...I put the same gauges in my 33.

[herb fraser]

Thanks Guys I am also using chestnut burl on my door panels that i am making and also on the insert area on the dash

[herb fraser]

Herb, the panel looks awesome and you have good taste in gauges...I put the same gauges in my 33.
(: !!!

[sturigus83]

Herb everything looks dam good i will be glade when i order mine. Just to let you know there is a new company out that carries custom hose clamps and they look dam good the name of the company is TKO clamping systems.com check it out and i bet you change your hose clamps

[herb fraser]

Herb everything looks dam good i will be glade when i order mine. Just to let you know there is a new company out that carries custom hose clamps and they look dam good the name of the company is TKO clamping systems.com check it out and i bet you change your hose clamps
Thanks I will check them out

[herb fraser]

Working on my dash while I wait for parts !
covered the dash in leather

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[Marv]

Beautiful!

[cgundermann]

Working on the gauge cluster. The veneer is chesnut burl, the finish is not even close to done still more coats and buff out , what do you think ?
Herb


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Killer!!!

[herb fraser]

Dash Board is now done !!! Tell me what you think !
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[wallace18]

Herb that looks fantastic! you are one gifted builder. Way to go!

[herb fraser]

Here's a pic of my door panel
its only in the rough state , lots of work to go
trying to keep in line with the dash
it will of course be covered in same leather and chestnut burl
window up and down switch will go in the door handle towards the upper front
And the round hole will be filled with a speaker
But have a look anyway .
Herb
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Also put a little more bling on the engine, copper lines for fuel , overflow and heating lines
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[KenWilkinson]

How did you attach the wrench on the driver side valve cover? Hehehe

[rponfick]

JB Weld is good for everything.
Ralph

[WIS89]

Herb-

Everything is looking really nice. I admire your craftsmanship! You know, as nicely as the door card is turning out, you might consider selling something like that! HA...

You do nice work, and I am enjoying following your progress!

Regards,

Steve

[herb fraser]

FINISHED DOOR PANELS !!!!!!! what do you think ?

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[CVOBill]

Door panel looks great Herb! Decide to move the power window switches?

[David Hodgkins]

Herb,

I want to ask about you about those copper fuel lines. Are you concerned about metal fatigue? Won't the vibrations from the engine running loosen the fittings, if not the lines themselves?

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[herb fraser]

hi Dave fuel line no because it is hard plumbed on both ends and I used K copper which is VERY flexible and strong, there are compression fitting should also be fine . the heater lines should be OK for the same reason and where there pass through the firewall I have installed rubber grommets. BUT I plan on keeping an eye on them, thanks for your concerns, Herb
OK well now lets get to the good parts. how do you like my Door Panels ??

Herb,

I want to ask about you about those copper fuel lines. Are you concerned about metal fatigue? Won't the vibrations from the engine running loosen the fittings, if not the lines themselves?

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[herb fraser]

Door panel looks great Herb! Decide to move the power window switches?

Yes I did decide to move them ,I thought the pulls ( doo Handles ) looked out of place the other way . And I like the clean look od the panels, I plan on putting the switches in or on the center console > I love the clean look of the panels and dahs So I will most likely put all or most of the switches in the center console out of sight

FED EX called today bring a BIG pallet of backordered stuff tomorrow :)

[Marv]

FED EX called today bring a BIG pallet of backordered stuff tomorrow
Cool, hope this means for all of us.

[herb fraser]

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The seats of course will be dyed a light brown
and the steering wheel will be covered in the same lesther

[herb fraser]

steering wheel is now tan leather, took it apart , stripped off the black leather and installed tan, only took about 2 hours
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[Marv]

Wow, beautiful work Herb. Your truck is going to be very nice!

[herb fraser]

Center console. Not done but starting to take shape
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[Jason_Rockwell]

Definitely showing off those skills Herb! Looks awesome!

[herb fraser]

door panels, center console and dash board done and temporally installed
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seats will be dyed to match the tan leather

[herb fraser]

door panels, center console and dash board done and temporarily installed
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[CVOBill]

The interior looks amazing Herb. What are you using for seats?

[herb fraser]

got the seats on Ebay, there are from a company that does conversion vans for disabled people they are brand new leather , only cost $200 for the pair delivered !
I will dye them to match the rest of the leather, Herb

[Mitch Wright]

Herb, the truck looks great and now you guys got me thinking a 35 might have to be my next project.

[1volfan]

Herb that interior is absolutely stunning! I have not posted anything for a while now but I had to complement you on your build. My daughter just graduated from college so I've decided to start scrounging up my parts for a truck build as well. I've got a '98 silverado that will be giving up the engine and trasmission so mine will be a Chevy powered hotrod as well. My son just started college so it may be a year or two before I can order the kit but by then they will have all the bugs and kinks worked out. I had already planned on engine turning the firewall, as this was common way back in the day, and also on the dash and door panels. I'll be watching this build and can't wait to see how it comes out!

[Marv]

Herb what type of adhesive are you using with the trunk liner?

[herb fraser]

Herb what type of adhesive are you using with the trunk liner?

3M 90 high strength spray on from home depot ,works great

[herb fraser]

Getting back on the truck build , hope to have it running next week , doing lots of little things that need to be done before starting
also I added another piece to the dashboard to hold the switchs, will also install warning and blinker lights in that piece, I want the dashboard to be as clean as possible, nothing on it !
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[wallace18]

Herb, that is the start of one fantastic looking interior. Way to go!

[herb fraser]

Herb, that is the start of one fantastic looking interior. Way to go!
Thanks Tom

[herb fraser]

Just added these radiator support rods, made them out of 1/2 stainless steel tubing. kinda old school look, I love em!
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[rponfick]

Good idea. I am concerned with the lack of support also.
Is that another brace I see in your second photo down above the suspension arm?
Ralph

[herb fraser]

Build thread will stop for almost 3 months as I am going to Tucson for the balance of the winter
ASLO:Shipping my cobra out there. where the weather is fine !

[rponfick]

We will miss you. You can post from Tucson.
Ralph

[herb fraser]

of course I can and I will ::cool:

[Jwheels]

Did you remove the bar behind the seats or just move it up along with the angled brackets? Or is it still in the same place just can't see it behind those seats? Which look very comfy for long trips by the way.

[herb fraser]

Did you remove the bar behind the seats or just move it up along with the angled brackets? Or is it still in the same place just can't see it behind those seats? Which look very comfy for long trips by the way.
yep I cut it out , never like the look of the cross bar and with it removed I moved the seats back almost 2 inches and that helped a lot in giving extra leg room. my seat belts have a shoulder strap that will mount right where I removed the cross bar. Herb

[Houdini]

sp how badly is the extra 2 inches needed ?? on seat will be using stock seat raised my cruise area is 750 miles a day on road I need comfort am 5 ft 8 in

now the question I really need answered how did you do the layout on the engine turning
getting all tuck en rolled so want the engine turning to make it retro show

[herb fraser]

sp how badly is the extra 2 inches needed ?? on seat will be using stock seat raised my cruise area is 750 miles a day on road I need comfort am 5 ft 8 in

now the question I really need answered how did you do the layout on the engine turning
getting all tuck en rolled so want the engine turning to make it retro show
Took a sharpie and marked off 1 inch squares on the firewall , using a 2 inch 3m pad in my drill press , I tried it on the back side first to make sure I was happy with it. Have to admit it I stole the idea to do the engine turning form Tom !

[herb fraser]

oops

[ThickCobra]

GOT SEATS !
full leather,came out of a 2018 mini van mid row seats
notice anything missing on my roll cage ?
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Herb,

Are the top sections of the seats now behind the roll cage frame? And, if so, are you certain they will fit inside the body? I'm asking as I don't know how close the roll bar is to the inside of the back of the cab.

[KenWilkinson]

Herb,
We mechanical engineers call that structure "Statically Indeterminate" . Here's a wiki on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statically_indeterminate

Do you have plans to replace it somewhere else maybe or eliminate it?

Nice seats by the way! :)

[herb fraser]

Herb,
We mechanical engineers call that structure "Statically Indeterminate" . Here's a wiki on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statically_indeterminate

Do you have plans to replace it somewhere else maybe or eliminate it?

Nice seats by the way! :)
Hi Ken , on my way back home from Tucson , not sure what you are talking about ? Removing the cross member ?

[KenWilkinson]

The missing parts

[ztoolman44]

Working on my dash while I wait for parts !
covered the dash in leather

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wow, impressive. Sophisticated look.

[herb fraser]

Jus made and installed a third brake light. I used a LED light strip and 1/4 plexi glass .It is flush mounted
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[herb fraser]

So not sure if you seen this on the 35 post but I rolled the edges of the truck bed side , I never liked the hard square edge and now I think it looks more original110056
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[herb fraser]

How did you attach the wrench on the driver side valve cover? Hehehe
Just noticed your post now LOL

[bnelson]

Much better :)

[herb fraser]

I used 1 inch PVC , cut a slot in it and pushed it over the square metal, it was a very tight ift so its not going anywhere . Then just rage to fill in the bevel
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[bnelson]

Great idea Herb! Looks great. I might have to use that idea. I also wanted to get some SS angle and weld all the SS bed pieces together. But they now come glued to fiberglass sides! Not sure if feasible now without tearing everything up trying to get the sides off.

[herb fraser]

Ok, so here is a couple of pic of my tailgate , now the tailgate does not function , (notice the third brake light )I smoothed it out .alos made the tailgate lip rolled along with the bed sides, frenched in the chrome tail pipes , have lots more finish body work to do on it yet ! not sure if tis your cup of tea ,but I love it
The license plate of off my 62 willys
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[sperger72]

Looks really good. I am thinking of making my tailgate fixed as well. Really not needed to go up and down. Some dumb *** will sit something heavy on it if it is down, like me probably not thinking.

[Marv]

Very nice !

[bnelson]

Herb what trans did you use with your SBC? I have a 4L60E which I completed installing and put in floor over the weekend. After mocking up trans tunnel looks like I will need to modify the right side of tunnel to fit over the rear corner of pan. Did you run into this?

[herb fraser]

PM sent , but I had to modify the mounts ,but I think because I used a shor t tail tranny (T350)

[RuffShod]

Cool build!!!

Can't wait to see the interior finished!!!