California Registration Success! (so far)

[BB767]

The car will be out of the paint shop on July 9th so I went to the California DMV today, June 18, 2018, to get the registration process started. To my great delight, it went better than expected! #9160 will be on the road in the not too distant future!

Had all the paperwork in hand and filled out as far as possible;

FFR Body and Chassis receipt
BluePrint engine and transmission receipt
FFR certificate of origin (not actually needed for this part)
California insurance card
REG 343 form
REG 5036 form

Paid lot’s of money to the fine (*******) politicians of the peoples republic of kalifornia.

But get this! I received an SB 100 number! What a score, I was sweating that one!
Plus, a 60 day operating permit, I can legally drive it on the road!
Plus all necessary paperwork to schedule appointments for CHP, BAR, and CARB inspections!

I am posting this because I have not seen a recent update on the registration process in California. I was sweating this part partly because of some of the stories I’ve heard and partly because there is no recent info posted. I’ll try and keep this thread updated as I progress in hopes of helping those who are coming after me.

[Itchief]

Sounds great I’m sure you can’t wait to get the car back from paint and go cruising

The registration process in CA sounds like a pain here in WV it was a 30 minute process complete a couple of forms and give them your money

Congratulations

Rick

[slpro1207]

I would suggest that you contact your local CHP and find out which office does the inspection. Not all do. Then call them and check what the lead time is for your appointment. I had to wait 5 weeks for mine. Slowed the whole process down. Also I could not make a appointment with the smog check referee until I had the CHP certificate. The inspections were easy but I didn’t know to plan my appointments way ahead. Good luck and congratulations on your SB100. BTW what SB number did you get?

[BB767]

SB was only 122, in June! Plenty left this year.

Already have a CHP appointment here in Placerville, officer has done FFR Roadsters previously and has a good reputation.

CARB says they are about two weeks out for appointments.

Glad to hear you say the rest are easy, hope it plays out that way.

Thanks Rick, can't wait to join the rest of you out there!

[Vspeeds]

Brien, thats great news considering some of the DMV horror stories we heard in the past. You gotta take a shake down road trip down to my house and show off your car.

[BB767]

Brien, thats great news considering some of the DMV horror stories we heard in the past. You gotta take a shake down road trip down to my house and show off your car.

You'll be one of the first destinations! I'll need a lot of "excuses" to take the car out, "helping" you will be a good one.

[Jim Haar]

Brien, congrats on getting your SB number, the DMV Oceanside opened a file and took
some registration money, but would not give me the SB number until I had a completed REG124
from the CHP. I got that done today and they told me I was the only one they have done in
June and they would not do any more until Sept.

This is the 3rd FFR car I have built and the whole procedure is different than the previous
two times I did the SB100 process.

Seems all the DMV offices are a little different .......

[TheBabyBadger]

SUBSCRIBED! I'll be doing this early (I hope) next year! AWESOME OT HEAR!!! I got my trike legal pretty easily, so it can't be too much harder. Let us know how you made it through each step so we can take similar stances and vernacular. :) Congrats! so far!

[BB767]

Thanks guys, I think you're right. it seems like each office does it their own way and Sacramento seems to go along with this. Just got word the paint shop is two weeks behind. This may screw up my whole schedule, the CHP inspector is booked about 5 weeks out! Oh well, like I have been telling myself throughout the whole build, it will be great whenever it gets on the road. And there is that 60 day permit...........

[lewma]

Please continue to post updates as you progress through the registration process :D I'm nowhere near the registration process, but would appreciate any tips in getting the car on the road. I'm a couple weeks away from installing the engine/transmission.

[BB767]

Please continue to post updates as you progress through the registration process :D I'm nowhere near the registration process, but would appreciate any tips in getting the car on the road. I'm a couple weeks away from installing the engine/transmission.

Will do.
With the delay I mentioned the car will be back in my shop on Monday night the 23rd of July. The CHP VIN inspection is scheduled for the next morning, leaving me no time to reinstall the seats and lights, not to mention the mirrors and remaining aluminum. I emailed the inspecting officer and he replied “no worries”. I am assuming that means he is good with it like that. I’ll try my best to get what I can together before the inspection anyway and let you guys know how it goes.

[bcshannon5448]

I am in the same boat as you. Went to DMV for the second time on Monday. No CHP inspection, they will accept the FFR Serial # and verify this at DMV office. Waiting on seq # from Sacramento then make Bar appt.

[BB767]

I am in the same boat as you. Went to DMV for the second time on Monday. No CHP inspection, they will accept the FFR Serial # and verify this at DMV office. Waiting on seq # from Sacramento then make Bar appt.

Can I ask which DMV office you went to? I was told the CHP would issue a "VIN plate" that must be installed on the vehicle where they designate. Will you get this from the DMV office? My DMV office received the sequence number over the phone from Sacramento. As Jim said, they are all really different in their methods.

[bcshannon5448]

I am using the DMV in Modesto. The information I received was also after a very long call to Sacramento. The last info I got was that I will not get a separate VIN sticker, but they will use the FFR serial # plate and FFR number on the frame. Now this could all change when I go for my next visit. My seq # is 121. My car is running and driving on a 30 day operating permit. I am in Groveland, just a few hours south of you.

[slpro1207]

Can I ask which DMV office you went to? I was told the CHP would issue a "VIN plate" that must be installed on the vehicle where they designate. Will you get this from the DMV office? My DMV office received the sequence number over the phone from Sacramento. As Jim said, they are all really different in their methods.

CHP office I went to just verified the FFR serial number on the frame and the number on the FFR plate I installed in the engine compartment. My registration and pink just has the FFR serial number as the VIN.

[BB767]

slpro, that's what I expect to happen here in the end.

bcshannon, cool, you just beat me out, I am #122. Keep us posted here how the next appointment goes, I'll do the same. My CHP appointment is the 23rd (of July).

[BB767]

Well, despite the return from paint being two weeks late, things are moving along well. Got the car back yesterday evening. Got a seat back in it so I could drive it but did not have time to install lights, mirrors, under body metal, etc. CHP was fine with that, he said he just wanted to see chassis number, engine number, paperwork and receipts. After about 30 minutes inspecting the engine and chassis, and 30 minutes more doing paperwork, received a blessing using the FFR serial number stamped on the frame as the VIN number. Gave me a few options on where to place the VIN number tag supplied by FFR after I have it engraved with the number. He did say the pipes were to loud when I drove it out of the trailer but didn't mention it again. I'll update again after the brake and lamp inspection and the CARB ref inspection, both this Thursday.

[bcshannon5448]

I am still waiting for my DMV letter so that I can make my BAR appt. Called DMV and after a long time on hold was told it should be in the mail soon. I have all ready done the Brake and Light inspections. I am very interested to hear about your BAR inspection. That is my next hurdle.

[Jim Haar]

I too am still waiting for my DMV letter to be able to make a BAR appt. (almost 3 weeks now) Called
Sacramento DMV and they were no help and said to keep waiting as they were very busy and behind
schedule.

[OnlyAndy]

Wow, this is great news too me. I am in Yucaipa, CA and Kalifornia registration was one of my biggest fears to order kit or not. Saw Dave Smith at Huntington Beach event, he was very nice too me, and told him this event would get me off the fence,, YES or no. He said.... Yes, He was Right. Ordered 33' Rod Rod in early July, said to be ready mid Aug. Then shipping. Sent a couple emails to Stewart about cost,,, no response. Not a huge issue yet but will ditch emails and go to the old phone call method. I read this forum everyday to fill my little brain with as much cool stuff as I can. I know I will need it when I start. Let the Games Begin.

[Jazzman]

My gosh, what a process you prisoners of the People Republic of California have to go through just to register a car! The whole process for me took less than two hours! It would have taken less, but I did it in two trips to the DMV, only about five miles away! Good luck. I sure hope you get it done soon.

[bcshannon5448]

I am total getting the runaround from DMV. I was able to get a hold of a live person to talk to, she took my information and said if I did not get my papers in the mail by the end of the week to call again. Then I get a call and another person tells me they will overnight it right away. Next day and no overnight in the mail. I just don't get why they can't do what they say.

[bcshannon5448]

Just received special delivery of SPCNS. Called for BAR appt. and they informed me I had to have CHP VIN verification prior to BAR inspection and DMV office couldn't do verification. I told them that DMV office told me they could do it. They did make the BAR appt. Just to be sure I made CHP appt for verification. Now I have CHP on 7/30/18, Bar on 8/6/18 and DMV on 8/10/18. Good thing I am retired or I don't know how I would be able to make all of this happen. Hopefully all of this will work out and I can get my registration finally.

[1932]

CHP on 7-31 then BAR

[BB767]

Went to Beta Smog and Tune in Sacramento this morning for brake and light. Very quick and easy, I would highly recommend them for your inspection. Went to the referee this afternoon, didn't go so good. Since I applied in early June I had totally forgotten about my SB100 certificate. I had not received it but had it in my mind that I had. Referee did his inspection and said it passed (looked at the PCV valve and oil fill cap breather tube plus VIN number) but would not give me paperwork without the missing certificate. Called SB100 phone number, they said the certificate was mailed "three weeks ago". Guess what was in the mail box when I got home? It's funny how these things work. Anyway, I'll contact the referee again and see what he wants to do now.

[Jim Haar]

What is the SB100 phone number ? ,Maybe I can get some help calling them.........

[bcshannon5448]

The number I called was 916-617-7690 but I could only leave a message.

[BB767]

What is the SB100 phone number ? ,Maybe I can get some help calling them.........

Direct line to the SB100 person, 916-657-8525.

[Jim Haar]

Thanks guys, Iv'e called and left messages at both numbers !! We'll see what happens.....

[Jim Haar]

Certificate came in mail today and BAR appt. is Aug 7......

[1932]

33 - but went to CHP and was told to go to BAR and then come back to CHP.
Haft to get alternator charging first, ford control pack, new regulator, must be in wiring?

[lewma]

Certificate came in mail today and BAR appt. is Aug 7......

Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress :)

[Straversi]

I got my SB100 number at the DMV today. Callling for my inspection appointments tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if I get the same instructions as you all.
-Steve

[bcshannon5448]

On Tuesday I had my appointment with CHP to verify the VIN. It was the easiest part of this process so far. The officer looked at the FFR serial number on the frame and agreed when I told him the DMV had suggested that as the VIN number. He completed the paperwork quickly and gave it back, the only other question was the current number of miles on the car. Next is the BAR on Monday Morning.

[BB767]

Went back to BAR referee this morning, with the certificate in hand this time, fortunately same guy as last time. Did not even do another inspection, just updated the mileage (have over 300 miles on it now!), did another 15 minutes worth of paperwork, had me place the sticker on the car pretty much wherever I wanted, and now it's officially a 1965 model as far as the smog man is concerned.

Then returned to DMV (no appointment, 4 hour wait!) and got the plates! I am officially DONE with CA DMV and registration! I'll post pictures when the plates are on to finish up with this thread. Hope this has helped those in the process or planning it.

Summary;

1. Go to DMV with application for title or registration (form 343), Statement of construction (form 5036), Certificate of origin (from FFR), receipts for kit, engine and transmission, and lots of cash for the man. Receive a temporary operating slip, receipt, and a list of things to get (below).
2. Go to CHP (appointment) for VIN number assignment, they will provide the application for assigned vehicle identification number plate (form 124). Go to any shop designated as a California brake and lamp inspection station (usually a smog station), get these inspections done and receive compliance slips from the shop. Hint, I found there is a LARGE variance in prices charged and what they were going to require to pass the tests. Some of the shops had a ridiculously large list to comply with, such as adding reflectors all over the car and allowing THEM to drive the car! I think not. Ask questions and shop around.
3. After you have received your certified copy of the SB100 form in the mail, go to a California ARB referee station (appointment, locations found on line), get sticker and receipt from them.
4. Return to DMV with all the paperwork you have collected and receive your plates.

This took me about 7 weeks.

[Straversi]

Is there a specific form the brake and light inspectors need to fill out?
-Steve

[BB767]

Is there a specific form the brake and light inspectors need to fill out?
-Steve

Yes, but they are just little slips of paper, looks like a receipt from a 10 cent store, one for each (brakes and lights). I thought sure they could not be official forms, but the lady at DMV liked them and that's all that counts.

[Vspeeds]

Thats awesome. It sounds like the process was fairly straight forward. Congratulations!

[lewma]

Went back to BAR referee this morning, with the certificate in hand this time, fortunately same guy as last time. Did not even do another inspection, just updated the mileage (have over 300 miles on it now!), did another 15 minutes worth of paperwork, had me place the sticker on the car pretty much wherever I wanted, and now it's officially a 1965 model as far as the smog man is concerned.

Then returned to DMV (no appointment, 4 hour wait!) and got the plates! I am officially DONE with CA DMV and registration! I'll post pictures when the plates are on to finish up with this thread. Hope this has helped those in the process or planning it.

Summary;

1. Go to DMV with application for title or registration (form 343), Statement of construction (form 5036), Certificate of origin (from FFR), receipts for kit, engine and transmission, and lots of cash for the man. Receive a temporary operating slip, receipt, and a list of things to get (below).
2. Go to CHP (appointment) for VIN number assignment, they will provide the application for assigned vehicle identification number plate (form 124). Go to any shop designated as a California brake and lamp inspection station (usually a smog station), get these inspections done and receive compliance slips from the shop. Hint, I found there is a LARGE variance in prices charged and what they were going to require to pass the tests. Some of the shops had a ridiculously large list to comply with, such as adding reflectors all over the car and allowing THEM to drive the car! I think not. Ask questions and shop around.
3. After you have received your certified copy of the SB100 form in the mail, go to a California ARB referee station (appointment, locations found on line), get sticker and receipt from them.
4. Return to DMV with all the paperwork you have collected and receive your plates.

This took me about 7 weeks.

Congrats!!!

[1932]

How did you get around CHP wanting to have engine Cal. smog compliant?? Ford A50-ex

[BB767]

How did you get around CHP wanting to have engine Cal. smog compliant?? Ford A50-ex

It is not their responsibility nor jurisdiction. Their job is to determine where the parts (mainly body, frame, engine, transmission) came from, are they legitimate, are they stolen, have they been bought or salvaged, and have the taxes been paid for them. Once that has been determined they then issue a VIN number for the entire collection of parts which makes it a legitimate vehicle. If an officer is trying to enforce some kind of emissions law at this point, they are way out of line. So, to answer your question, I did not need to get around anything, the officer was only interested in the above referenced items. (Although he did comment that it was kind of loud, but I won't have to deal with that issue until he pulls me over on the road.)

The BAR referee will designate the vehicles smog status after his inspection of the vehicle and it's paperwork, but that's a whole 'nother subject.

[Ray]

How did you get around CHP wanting to have engine Cal. smog compliant?? Ford A50-ex

From the California Health and Safety Code:

HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE - HSC
DIVISION 26. AIR RESOURCES [39000 - 44474] ( Division 26 repealed and added by Stats. 1975, Ch. 957. )
PART 5. VEHICULAR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL [43000 - 44299.91] ( Part 5 added by Stats. 1975, Ch. 957. )
CHAPTER 5. Motor Vehicle Inspection Program [44000 - 44126] ( Chapter 5 added by Stats. 1982, Ch. 892, Sec. 2. )

ARTICLE 2. Program Requirements [44010 - 44025] ( Article 2 added by Stats. 1982, Ch. 892, Sec. 2. )

44017.4.
(a) Upon registration with the Department of Motor Vehicles, a passenger vehicle or pickup truck that is a specially constructed vehicle, as defined in Section 580 of the Vehicle Code, shall be inspected by stations authorized to perform referee functions. This inspection shall be for the purposes of determining the engine model-year used in the vehicle or the vehicle model-year, and the emission control system application. The owner shall have the option to choose whether the inspection is based on the engine model-year used in the vehicle or the vehicle model-year.

(1) In determining the engine model-year, the referee shall compare the engine to engines of the era that the engine most closely resembles. The referee shall assign the 1960 model-year to the engine in any specially constructed vehicle that does not sufficiently resemble a previously manufactured engine. The referee shall require only those emission control systems that are applicable to the established engine model-year and that the engine reasonably accommodates in its present form.

(2) In determining the vehicle model-year, the referee shall compare the vehicle to vehicles of the era that the vehicle most closely resembles. The referee shall assign the 1960 model-year to any specially constructed vehicle that does not sufficiently resemble a previously manufactured vehicle. The referee shall require only those emission control systems that are applicable to the established model-year and that the vehicle reasonably accommodates in its present form.

(b) Upon the completion of the inspection, the referee shall affix a tamper-resistant label to the vehicle and issue a certificate that establishes the engine model-year or the vehicle model-year, and the emission control system application.

(c) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall annually provide a registration to no more than the first 500 vehicles that meet the criteria described in subdivision (a) that are presented to that department for registration pursuant to this section. The 500-vehicle annual limitation does not apply to the renewal of registration of a vehicle registered pursuant to this section.

(Amended by Stats. 2002, Ch. 693, Sec. 1. Effective January 1, 2003.)

[1932]

Yes i have read all the info, but i cannot get away from the yuba city office. The other offices all send me back to officer Nokes!

[BB767]

There you go, Ray just did all the legwork for you. What he posted is what makes up SB100.

[BB767]

Yes i have read all the info, but i cannot get away from the yuba city office. The other offices all send me back to officer Nokes!

Well that is frustrating! Can't you just take your paperwork that you have from the DMV and make an appointment at another CHP office? I don't think anyone has the authority to tell you where you can and can't go do they?

[1932]

I have done all the work to, i know how it is set up. But officer NOKES will not verify the Vin #. He is out of line, and i can't go to a different office.

[David Hodgkins]

I have done all the work to, i know how it is set up. But officer NOKES will not verify the Vin #. He is out of line, and i can't go to a different office.

CHP stations that do this work are assigned by area so if you are walking into local DMV offices around where you live they will all tell you to go to officer Nokes.

Find out where the regional CHP office is outside of your immediate area and walk in there. POLITELY ask to see the officer and bring a print out of Ray's post above FOR BACKUP. Assume he knows the law. Explain the situation regarding emissions requirements at the other CHP office, without disparaging officer Nokes AT ALL. Then ask if you can make an appointment for him to handle the VIN assignment. If he gives you any pushback explain that you understand the law differently and that you brought a copy of the statute for him, IF he'd like to see it.

If that doesn't work, find ANOTHER CHP office.

my .02

:)

[1932]

I have called Three different CHP offices and they look up your address and send you to your office, even if i got to another office my address is all over the paper work. Maybe go to regional head office??
The officer wants to know that engine is cal legal not just smog exempt (race engine or street legal) Dam it is just parts!!

[David Hodgkins]

Were all 3 VIN assignment offices?

A lot of us in So-Cal have gone through officer White at the Santa Ana Office:
(675) Santa Ana
2031 E. Santa Clara Ave.
Santa Ana, CA 92705
(714) 567-6000

:)

[boat737]

I had no problem with the Torrance, CA CHP office. (I would have to see if I have the officers name in my paperwork.). Here is my process of last year. https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?23073-California-SB100-Title-and-Registration

[Ray]

Were all 3 VIN assignment offices?

A lot of us in So-Cal have gone through officer White at the Santa Ana Office:
(675) Santa Ana
2031 E. Santa Clara Ave.
Santa Ana, CA 92705
(714) 567-6000

:)

David,

Each CHP office has a "VIN Officer." He may well have several other duties along with VIN's, but each Area has one. There is also a VIN Officer at Division (Valley Division in Sacramento.) Here is a link to all the Office's in Valley Division: https://www.chp.ca.gov/Find-an-Office/Valley-Division.

Ray

[1932]

Then i was told i had to go to the office that is in my address area. They checked.

[Dewey McBride]

Congrats!! I just got my registration today! Mine was a bit different because I bought a car that was originally built in California with SB100 then moved to Arizona. When I brought it back to California, it took over 5 months and more than $3k in fee's to get DMV to clear me. If they understood their own rules it would have taken an hour. Thanks to the BAR/DMV liaison for straightening everything out.

Are you going to Snakes to the Lake next month?

[BB767]

Then i was told i had to go to the office that is in my address area. They checked.

So who is telling you this? When DMV issued my paperwork they told me nothing but to come back with the rest of the forms complete and that is it, no other instruction whatsoever. Here is the direct email address of the officer in Placerville; dfrizzell@chp.ca.gov (Officer David Frizzell). Try sending him an email directly simply asking for a VIN inspection appointment. Do not mention any of your problems unless he asks, or asks why you are going out of area. Tell him that another Factory Five builder recommended him because he was familiar with them (FFR kit cars), (I don't care if you use my name or not but he probably will not remember it anyway). Can't hurt to try and it's not that far for you. I drove to Yuba City multiple times for my paint job, about a 90 minute drive, and a pleasant one at that if it is not during rush hour in Sacramento.

[bcshannon5448]

I finally got my registration done. Modesto DMV didn’t seem to care about who did my vin inspection, but it may have been because I was the registered owner of the donor vehicle that my engine and transmission came out of. I did have to turn in the title and pay to have the donor junked by the DMV. The BAR inspection was very straightforward. It sure can be frustrating dealing with the DMV when you have a different person staring at your paperwork each time and trying to figure out what they need to do. Each time I delt with the DMV I came away shaking my head wondering if I would have what I needed for the next visit. It was such a relief to walk out with the liscence plates at the end of 7 1/2 weeks. Now I need to get the insurance taken care of before I’m going to start driving the car and before DMV sends a notice of failure to have coverage.

[1932]

Officer nokes talk to officer Garcia and DMV & BAR then went to DMV and got my SB100 number. YES!!

[BB767]

Officer nokes talk to officer Garcia and DMV & BAR then went to DMV and got my SB100 number. YES!!

Great! Happy for you. What a relief!

[1932]

Got my certificate of sequence in mail, will go to BAR with TIN not VIN because chp would not do VIN until bar is ok with engine.
Thanks for the help!

[BB767]

Whatever works to get you through the process!
Something that may or may not make any difference to you. SB100 allows the owner to chose if it is registered as the year of the body or the engine. In my excitement to just get it over with I did not notice what the examiner was using for the year and he did not ask. He used the engine year (1965), I would have prefered the body in case I ever want to change out the engine. I could reapply if I really want it changed but will not bother now. Just a heads up for those if you heading to the BAR referee, state yor preference when you show up.

[1932]

Called for an appointment, same story must have VIN. Told lady my story and she took info to referee, they will get back to me??

[Straversi]

Walked into DMV this morning at 8:30 with all of my inspection paperwork, without an appointment. Walked out 15 minutes later with my plates and registration. Not sure what was going on, but there was no line. Miracles do happen!

After completing the car, I spent an entire day at the DMV (7/31/18). I paid my taxes and registration fees and I had my SB-100 number assignment. I booked the first CHP inspection available (9/18/18). Shocked that it took that long to get an appointment but nothing you can do. I tried to book my BAR Inspection at the same time but they would not allow me to make an appointment until I had the official SB-100 document in hand from Sacramento. DMV copy did not count.

CHP inspection took all of 20 minutes. Half of that was talking to the CHP Captain who wanted to impound my car for a couple of months. Great guy, just loved Cobras.

I drove to a brake and light inspector on the way home from CHP. They charge $90 if you pass. $30 more if you fail and have to come back.

I got a cup of coffee and when I came back he said I failed because I needed reflectors on the sides, needed to have my back-up light permanently mounted (I had mine zip tied to my over rider) and I needed to know what the nominal thickness of my brake rotors was for his form.

I had the Wilwood documents with me but the thickness was not indicated. I said just measure since they only has 50 miles on them. Nope. I called Wilwood and one of their engineers talked to him and he was satisfied. I drove home and made a bracket for the back up light and drove to O' Riley and picked up some reflectors. I stuck these on my fresh paint as lightly as possible with double sided tape and pulled them off as soon and he had his photographs for the file. I was back within an hour, so he didn't charge me the extra $30.


My SB-100 doc arrived from Sacramento a few days later and scheduled the first available BAR inspection - 10/18/18. They just love to make you wait.

I dove into the BAR inspector and opened the hood. He confirmed that I had a closed loop PCV system and went to the back room. 30 minutes later he came out with my sticker.


I thought today would be an ordeal but as mentioned earlier, I hit the DMV lottery and was done in a flash. Whew!


The process was easy but you can't be in a big hurry, especially in Los Angeles.

-Steve

[Rsnake]

After reading these dmv stories and going through the process this week I now realize DMV doesn't have a set process for the sb100. I went to DMV on Monday and was told I need a brake and light inspection before anything can happen. Of course they took my money, lots of it, before sending me on my way with a 1 day temporary operating permit. The brake and light inspection was done yesterday and took about 5 minutes and cost $187.50, ouch. So back to DMV and a 30 day temporary permit in hand and they are not sure about my sb100 number. So I am trying to set up a vin check with the chp and continue moving forward and hope this process works as I don't think DMV has a clue.

[1932]

Steve you are a winner, it can work that way if the stars line up!