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jwebb
10-16-2017, 09:29 AM
The scoop that came with the kit appears to be plastic, is there a scoop that's made of the same material as the body? Body shop has concerns with bonding the two together (no rivets).

GoDadGo
10-16-2017, 09:48 AM
For a period correct look, consider a rivet on aluminum scoop.
If you prefer no body seams, then bond on a glass scoop if you are not a fan of the rivets.

Hope this link helps:

http://www.csxparts.com/search.aspx?searchterm=hood%20scoop

Also, I'm not a fan of bonding dissimilar materials so I'd suggest getting a glass scoop; however, it may be Polyester instead of Vynlester Resin which are more compatable than glassing ABS Plastic.

Jeff Kleiner
10-16-2017, 12:58 PM
Correct...do not bond the ABS scoop to a 'glass hood. It'll come back to haunt you later. I've found early Mk4 fiberglass scoops (what was supplied for the first year or 2) in the forum classifieds from guys who went scoopless. Try posting a "want to buy" and you might get lucky!

Jeff

Itchief
10-16-2017, 05:03 PM
Factory five still sells a mk III hood with a fiberglass scoop you may want to check and see if the mk iii and iv
Use the same hood

May cost more it but would accomplish the look you wanted

Just a thought

Rick

Jeff Kleiner
10-16-2017, 06:44 PM
Factory five still sells a mk III hood with a fiberglass scoop you may want to check and see if the mk iii and iv
Use the same hood



They are not the same.

Jeff

j.miller
10-17-2017, 08:17 AM
No bonding ABS to glass. If you don't find one in the classifieds get ahold of me 951-676-0191 Jeff Miller. I have molds to make the scoops.....just not a lot of time to do it so I don't advertise that fact....well, I didn't until now.....damn!

jwebb
10-17-2017, 11:22 AM
Jeff,
Since you don't advertise, if I asked you to make one what are we talking on time and cost?

Jim

Avalanche325
10-17-2017, 11:53 AM
The screws that are usually used are called button head. They are a domed head that uses an Allen key.

michael everson
10-17-2017, 01:21 PM
Sent you a PM
Mike

j.miller
10-17-2017, 05:36 PM
$100, two weeks...da Bat

jwebb
10-18-2017, 10:03 AM
Responded, let me know

jwebb
10-18-2017, 12:23 PM
Thanks Jeff, but I found one local and freed up your time!!

Jim

hugo-k
10-19-2017, 11:48 AM
Using rivets, what kind of rivets are you using? And if you are using different rivets than the one for aluminium panels, where do you get them?

Chuck Sloggett
10-19-2017, 09:27 PM
Using rivets, what kind of rivets are you using? And if you are using different rivets than the one for aluminium panels, where do you get them?

As mentioned before in post 8 above I used button head stainless steel screws and nylock stainless nuts with stainless flat washers under the nuts. The fasteners were acquired from Fastenal. -- Chuck

jwebb
10-23-2017, 03:19 PM
Now that I have a fiberglass scoop(thanks Mike), recommendations on bonding materials??

Jeff Kleiner
10-23-2017, 04:35 PM
Vinylester resin, fiberglass mat and Rage.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75808&d=1508794160

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75809&d=1508794188

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75810&d=1508794207

Note that the scoop is black because it was cut out of a Mk3 hood NOT because it's ABS plastic.

Cheers,
Jeff






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Bren
10-23-2017, 09:13 PM
If the scoop will be riveted to the hood, is the plastic scoop recommended or not?

Jeff Kleiner
10-24-2017, 05:51 AM
If the scoop will be riveted to the hood, is the plastic scoop recommended or not?

I like the plastic scoop---more symmetrical and less lumpy than the 'glass one plus it doesn't need the edges trimmed or the underside smoothed and finished. I do cut back the turndowned lip at the front and use buttonheads and nuts instead of rivets though.

Jeff

jwebb
10-24-2017, 06:19 AM
Vinylester resin, fiberglass mat and Rage.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75808&d=1508794160

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75809&d=1508794188

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75810&d=1508794207

Note that the scoop is black because it was cut out of a Mk3 hood NOT because it's ABS plastic.

Cheers,
Jeff





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Jeff,

Appreciate the info, thanks again!!

Jim1855
10-24-2017, 06:09 PM
A slight change, hope no one minds.

Are there any taller and wider fiberglass scoops? Can one be fabricated? I believe that I'll need to cut a hole of 14 - 15 inches in diameter through the hood to fit my air cleaner. Just curious for now but this will get more important as the build progresses.

Thanks,

Jim

j.miller
10-25-2017, 06:21 AM
Jim1885 ,Shell Valley had a couple of scoops. You might give them a look