4 "guys" in the garage!

[broku518]

Hello there!

I am a widowed father of 3 boys, ages 3, 5 and 7 years old. My wife passed away last year from cervical cancer. I am hoping to build this car with my boys, coworkers and friend along the way. I would love to have my wife here, but can see now, life is short. No more dreaming about things, start living and doing!

I always wanted to have a sports car of some sort. I have been pretty frugal in my life and just dreamt about building a Cobra. This year I started looking at some older cars, like Fiat 124, MGM midget or Porsche 911. But then I realized and asked myself a question - "What car would really make you tickle?" I would be Shelby Cobra 1965 for sure!
So I dropped plans on purchasing anything else. Did some research and placed an order with Factory Five this month. Also called Mike Forte and placed an order there.
I really like this forum with many helpful hint and tips. Thanks!

Here is what I am getting:
MK4 Complete kit
17"/front 9"/back 10.5" wheels
+Appearance Package FREE

from Mike Forte:
SB FORD DART 347 TURNKEY ENGINE PACKAGE carburated
manual TKO600
3.55 8.8 REAREND
REAR DISC 11.65" KIT

I already spend some time and build the body buck. I am also talking to Al_C user and going visit his place this weekend. Very excited!

So this is for now.....more to come.

Thanks,
Martin

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I edited your title.

Ray

[GoDadGo]

I'm very sorry about the loss of your wife.

I'm fortunate to still have mine after she survived a stroke in 2006.

Welcome Aboard!

[Jdav]

Welcome and good luck! This has been such a fun experience for me and I hope and expect it'll be the same for you and your boys.

[wareaglescott]

Welcome to the forum. Look forward to following your build. Sounds like a great project for you and the boys. My condolences on the loss of your wife.
The forum is here to help. Fire away with any questions.

[Royteamcobra]

Sorry to hear about your wife, I'm building #9009 with my son right now, he's 17. It's been a great experience so far and we've enjoyed our hours in the shop together figuring this stuff out as we go along. Enjoy the build, look forward to hearing your progress and how the boys are enjoying it.

[broku518]

Hello,
Thank you all. I have couple questions.
How do I email admin? I would like to add a picture in my profile, location and couple other things.
But it is blocking me from making any changes.
Also, how do I add that nifty signature line with link to my build?

[broku518]

Hi Ray, no worries, thanks.

[broku518]

here is the body buck (not sure why is it upside down, tried this multiple times, still ended up this way....ugh)

[Motorsicklemike]

Martin,
So sorry for your loss. Sounds like a great plan to keep you and your boys occupied. Looking forward to following your build :)

[Yama-Bro]

Broku, Congrats on joining the "club" and good luck on the build!

[Papa]

Hello,
Thank you all. I have couple questions.
How do I email admin? I would like to add a picture in my profile, location and couple other things.
But it is blocking me from making any changes.
Also, how do I add that nifty signature line with link to my build?

Those features will become available after a certain number of posts, so start getting chatty and welcome to the fun!

Edit:

For new members with less than 20 posts these restrictions are as follows:

•You do not have access to your blog.
•You cannot post a new thread in the FOR SALE classifieds. You can still create a new thread in the WANTED portion of the classifieds. Posting a FOR SALE thread in a WANTED classified forum will be treated as a direct attempt to circumvent the rules and you WILL be penalized, up to and including a temporary or permanent ban.
•You can't create a picture album.
•You can't create a group of post new threads to a group. You can still post to existing group threads.
•You cannot update your profile or have a signature.
•You cannot have a custom title
•Calendar access is restricted (Thanks for the catch kwb160!)

[broku518]

Those features will become available after a certain number of posts, so start getting chatty, and welcome to the fun!
Hi Papa, I emailed admin and got those perms now :)

[AC Bill]

Welcome to the Builders Club..:)
Sorry for your loss. Building one of our cars, is actually pretty good therapy. That, or it will drive you insane..one of the two..:p

You will be a busy, busy man, with three boys at that age. How will you ever find the time to work on the build, is beyond me? Do you have a nanny?

[David Hodgkins]

Hi Papa, I emailed admin and got those perms now :)

Yep, anyone who signs up and lets me know they have a FFR (or one on the way) can get promoted. It's not really a "new user" thing, but more like a "spam control" thing.

:)

PS Congrats on the build! You ordered a lot more than a fun project; get ready for lifelong memories!

[broku518]

Welcome to the Builders Club..:)
Sorry for your loss. Building one of our cars, is actually pretty good therapy. That, or it will drive you insane..one of the two..:p

You will be a busy, busy man, with three boys at that age. How will you ever find the time to work on the build, is beyond me? Do you have a nanny?

I know, but I am not worry at all. The last couple years I went through a hell, and this feels relaxing. I don't have a nanny, boys go to a house care.
Also, my neighbors noticed and offered some help as well. My coworkers did the same :)

[Al_C]

I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday! I can help you fix your upside down photos, too.

[Venom61]

I'm very sorry for your loss. I am building ours with my oldest son. I cannot put into words what a great experience it has been so far. The people on this forum are awesome.

[WIS89]

Martin-

Welcome to the forum and to the Factory Five community!

You are really going to enjoy this amazing project with your sons. I have been building mine with the help of my two boys, and I cannot express just how much pleasure it brings to me. It seems that time spent in the garage allows us to share more than would be shared in other settings. It is an unusual form of therapy for me, and I hope them. I anticipate that it will provide them with some meaningful memories after we are no longer able to be in the garage together.

Best of luck to you and your boys! Don't hesitate to ask questions. There are countless folks with plenty of experience who are very giving of their time and advice! It has helped me a great deal, and I suspect you will benefit as well.

I look forward to seeing your progress. I hope your build brings you some of the same happiness mine has brought me!

Regards,

Steve

[mburger]

I am sorry for your loss. Your sons will remember the time spent with you their entire lives. As you said, life is short. Do what makes you happy! Look forward to following your build.

[stevo7896]

"Also, my neighbors noticed and offered some help as well. " Joining this forum ,your neighborhood just got alot bigger . So much knowledge of these forums ,you will get thru any hurdle . Your boys will also learn so much tinkering around the car with you . Welcome to the Forum

[broku518]

Yesterday visited Al_C place with my boys. He graciously agreed to show us his project car. Even let me touch it and sit in it! Awesome :)
I was very impressed with the amount of work completed. We talked and I picked up some valuable tips and hints. Very thankful.

Today I went to a local hardware store and picked up some tools (break line pipe bender and riveting tool).

Thank you all for the welcome and support.
Martin

[GKindle]

Condolences on the loss of your wife!! Congratulations on your purchase and good luck on your build. I'm not to terribly far away in Jefferson City, MO and do get to the Bolingbrook area a couple times a year for work. I'm in the beginning stages of the build myself and the guys on this forum are great (although they will help you spend your money). The folks at Factory Five are also great to work with. I sent them a list of items I was missing from my inventory late Friday afternoon and they have it taken care of and preparing to ship today (Monday). Best wishes!!!

[Lowrod]

Welcome to the group and the madness!

Have fun with those boys

[MPTech]

Congratulations on your purchase and good luck with your journey! It will be a great project for you & your sons.

If you get down to the St. Louis area, give us a call and we'll schedule some garage visits or a day-cruise. If you can make it on the second Tuesday of the month, join us at a meeting!

[mach'er]

Martin, I hope this project helps you and your kids, and helps bring comfort as you continue to heal. I'll agree with AC Bill that the build process can be therapeutic. Heck, even the hours I spent in my garage just cleaning and organizing was helpful to me - my head was sort of cleaned and organized a bit with each peaceful hour sometimes.

It seems there's a bunch of us starting out at about the same time. I'll be following your build, and looking for tips from you and all those others that are going to be in process at about the same time (and of course, those that proceeded us). I hope to provide one or two of my own as well, or at least try.

Your signature says delivery is ~10/14. Enjoy that day (it is pretty EXCITING), and those that follow!

[broku518]

SO, car is still not here. It was finished on 10/14, but Steward Transport pick up is still delayed. Should be getting a call today and ETA sometimes this weekend.

Update on engine. Mike Forte complete the build, yes!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3YUQKe7_EbpR3hlR1NOSkQ3aWs/view

Dyno test:75949

[WIS89]

Martin-

That torque "curve" though!! Not much curve at all, and it should give you all the grunt you need! Plus 400 HP should give you all you want.

The boys must be getting excited about the delivery, huh?

I am going to enjoy following along.

Regards,

Steve

[broku518]

Martin-

That torque "curve" though!! Not much curve at all, and it should give you all the grunt you need! Plus 400 HP should give you all you want.

The boys must be getting excited about the delivery, huh?

I am going to enjoy following along.

Regards,

Steve

Hi Steve,
I think I am more excited!

I was quoted 368HP initially, but ended up 410HP. Mike used a different header. Can't really complain about this :)

Thanks,
Martin

[JRL16]

Sorry for your loss and welcome. You and your sons are about to begin an incredible experience all will remember fondly for the rest of your lives. So true we must live and enjoy are days while we may and always appreciate our blessings. Good luck and most importantly have fun.

[Mark Eaton]

Martin,

Your engine is awesome and looks just like mine! I got an email from Mike Forte Tuesday that my DART 347 stroker shipped. The dyno testing showed it a 377hp and 389 torque. It has EFI, maybe that why HP is lower? I also got the TKO 600 trany and a hydraulic clutch. I don't know which speedometer set up you are going to use but if it is not the mechanical type make sure you order the "plug" for the transmission.

cheers,

Mark

[Joel Hauser]

I finished my roadster earlier this summer. My two adult sons, adult daughter, and teenage son helped out along the way. I couldn't have done it without them. Make sure you get lots of pictures of the kids working on it. That is the best part of the build, having the kids around to help. Remember that. and when they're older, let them drive the car. It'll give them a reason to come home to visit. have fun.

[Al_C]

keep us updated on the delivery date!

[broku518]

Martin,

Your engine is awesome and looks just like mine! I got an email from Mike Forte Tuesday that my DART 347 stroker shipped. The dyno testing showed it a 377hp and 389 torque. It has EFI, maybe that why HP is lower? I also got the TKO 600 trany and a hydraulic clutch. I don't know which speedometer set up you are going to use but if it is not the mechanical type make sure you order the "plug" for the transmission.

cheers,

Mark

Hi Mark.
Thanks! I don't think carbureted setup would make any difference. Mike told me he used different headers, better performance and same price. Also, I don't know what you mean by the "plug."
I am getting the "whatever comes standard free" speedometer setup.

Thanks,
Martin

[broku518]

keep us updated on the delivery date!

Hi Al.
Driver called me this morning, I am his second stop. First is some lucky guy in Georgia.
ETA Monday or Tuesday.

[rrrose]

Welcome to the community so sorry for your loss.
I got my kit earlier this month. This forum and community is a great place to be. I will be following along.
My delivery was later than planned from Stewart as well. Those dang hurricanes and wildfires really create havoc on logistics and things back up, such is life.

Ron

[Mark Eaton]

Martin,
When you do your inventory it will be very helpful to have a device to measure bolts and thread size. These are two things I found on Amazon that helped me a TON!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XUU0UMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FJW0GK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mark

[broku518]

Look what the cats dragged in today! :cool:
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[broku518]

Martin,
When you do your inventory it will be very helpful to have a device to measure bolts and thread size. These are two things I found on Amazon that helped me a TON!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XUU0UMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FJW0GK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mark

Thanks Mark, great tips!

[Al_C]

That's a pretty good treat for this Halloween! Looks like you've got your work cut out for you!

[wareaglescott]

Awesome congrats!
Your little guy in the picture is already figuring how many years until he can take this thing out to impress his buddies! haha

[Yama-Bro]

Awesome. Must be something about holiday deliveries. Mine showed up on Labor Day. Good luck with inventory!

[sbhunter]

Dittos on the sorry and congrats. I have been following FFR since they opened and am pulling the trigger next week on a roadster. Looks like there will a bunch of us in the Midwest! I am 2 hours south of Chicago. Where did you all find the plans for the body and frame bucks? I am planning on complete kit with most options checked and a coyote combo from Forte.

[broku518]

Dittos on the sorry and congrats. I have been following FFR since they opened and am pulling the trigger next week on a roadster. Looks like there will a bunch of us in the Midwest! I am 2 hours south of Chicago. Where did you all find the plans for the body and frame bucks? I am planning on complete kit with most options checked and a coyote combo from Forte.

I found the specs on this forum. You can also google for cobra body buck and find those PDFs.

[broku518]

Hello,
So kit is in the garage, I have been doing an inventory for last couple days. Great way to familiarize yourself with the parts and manual.
Kids are busy looking good in the car :)7646676467

[broku518]

Quick question. I noticed that I need a gas pump.
What would you recommend for my setup? 347 engine, carbureted. Do I need a regulator as well?
Ideally, if I can just get the whole thing someplace and plug it in would be great :)

Thanks,
Martin

[Straversi]

Quick question. I noticed that I need a gas pump.
What would you recommend for my setup? 347 engine, carbureted. Do I need a regulator as well?
Ideally, if I can just get the whole thing someplace and plug it in would be great :)

Thanks,
Martin

Mike Forte can help you with all of that. Makes it easy since he already knows the rest of your set up.
-Steve

[broku518]

Mike Forte can help you with all of that. Makes it easy since he already knows the rest of your set up.
-Steve

Hi Steve, thanks! Yep, called him and good to go :)

Martin

[broku518]

Nice to see something happening. Last night we removed the fiberglass body. I noticed some misalignment in front hood area, but after a quick forum search discovered this is a 'normal.'

Labeled and removed panels last night. I think I like the metal finish. I was contemplating the color choices, but will keep it the way it is. Plus, it is pretty cold and every time I sprayed a sample it would stink the high heaven here. Also, it snowed here last night, ugh!

So with the panels removed, we started working on F panels and lower control arms. It went pretty smoothly, riveting/caulking. Bolts were easy to torque, no brute force needed :)

Since the upper arms are on back order we started to assemble the koni shocks. (note: didn't have a ring snap tool, neighbor saved the day :))

I was thinking about doing other parts, but FedEx is delivering 2 boxes from F5 on Monday. Hoping those are the upper control arms. So I will wait.

[broku518]

HELP: Is there a simple way of uploading pictures from the local machine? I have them on my laptop right side up, they still come out upside down?!
I am not interested in hosting them someplace.

Thanks,
Martin

[Straversi]

HELP: Is there a simple way of uploading pictures from the local machine? I have them on my laptop right side up, they still come out upside down?!
I am not interested in hosting them someplace.

Thanks,
Martin

Not sure about easy, but this works.

Create a photo album on the Forum:

Start on the Forum home page and go to Gallery,
Select Add Album, Name it and make it public.
Now you have a place to store your photos that is independent of any 3rd party carriers.

Upload your photos into your album and then you can either attach your photos or imbed them in your posts.

There is a size limit on the photos you can upload, something like 1.5MB but they don't need to be that big. Various ways to resize your photos.

There is a very detailed description of how this all works in the Welcomes and Introductions Forum.

All that being said, occasionally, I still get a photo that does the up side down trick.
-Steve

[broku518]

Not sure about easy, but this works.

Create a photo album on the Forum:

Start on the Forum home page and go to Gallery,
Select Add Album, Name it and make it public.
Now you have a place to store your photos that is independent of any 3rd party carriers.

Upload your photos into your album and then you can either attach your photos or imbed them in your posts.

There is a size limit on the photos you can upload, something like 1.5MB but they don't need to be that big. Various ways to resize your photos.

There is a very detailed description of how this all works in the Welcomes and Introductions Forum.

All that being said, occasionally, I still get a photo that does the up side down trick.
-Steve

Hi Steve,
Thanks. I will deal with this another time. I would have to change the resolution on camera or crap my pics after upload. Seems pretty easy, but after working on the car with my boys, this is the last thing I want to do.

[Straversi]

Hi Steve,
Thanks. I will deal with this another time. I would have to change the resolution on camera or crap my pics after upload. Seems pretty easy, but after working on the car with my boys, this is the last thing I want to do.

I take most of my photos with my phone. I store them on my computer at full resolution.
For the photos I choose to post, I email them to myself. When I hit send the phone asks what size and gives me small, med, large or full res option. I pick med or large. When I get the email I drag those images to my desktop. When I upload the photos into the gallery, they are easy to find on the desktop. Then I drag them into the trash.

Now that I write it down is seems like a PITA but I guess I'm just use to it.
-Steve

[Papa]

I use Flickr to post pictures to the forum. It is really simple to use and is free. The only issue is if Flickr ever decides to go the way that Photobucket did and decide to start charging for third party postings.

Here is a quick how-to for Flickr:

1. Sign up for your free Flickr account.

2. Once signed up, go to the upload screen.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4517/38330720562_ee12a9cffa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21p9XNs)

3. Drag and drop the photos from your PC to this screen.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/38330722142_2586af451d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21p9YgG)

4. Create or select a previously created album to upload your photos to.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4532/38361185911_690a9a9944_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21rR766)

5. Click the upload button.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4518/38361186511_741b2fbe20_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21rR7gr)

6. Now from your "Photostream", click on the photo you want to post and then click on the share icon.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/24490836018_a350660c82_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DjaWiq)

7. Copy the BB Code link and select the size you want (768 x 1024) is what I use, and paste the link into your forum post.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4579/38361558221_cb549d0c51_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21rT1Le)

And you're done!

[Yama-Bro]

I took papa's advice and use Flickr. It's easy and I think it does a better job maintaining the quality and details of the pictures when it downsizing them vs other methods of downsizing for sharing on this forum.

[broku518]

Let see how this works. Dang! Sweet! :) Thanks Papa!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4544/26641094939_2be5bf4b18_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GAbzn6)IMG_3165 (https://flic.kr/p/GAbzn6) by Martin Ondrus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157201414@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4529/38417761551_772ef60760_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21wR54a)20171112_201412 (https://flic.kr/p/21wR54a) by Martin Ondrus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157201414@N07/), on Flickr

Baby is already testing his Shelby Cobra replica box :cool:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4572/26641305499_559947d5f0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GAcDXr)20171112_133704 (https://flic.kr/p/GAcDXr) by Martin Ondrus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157201414@N07/), on Flickr

[Al_C]

I see progress! Good for you guys! (The little guy needs a steering wheel...)

[broku518]

Making some progress here. Boys are interested. The only tiny problem is when I have them all in the garage, mad house! :)
So I have them take turns or come and go as they please.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4519/26724818769_46da27d436_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GHzFxp)20171114_181958 (https://flic.kr/p/GHzFxp)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4573/37613918205_65a787bbac_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZiPar8)20171115_182019 (https://flic.kr/p/ZiPar8)

I was thinking about paiting the engine bay panels, but after my oldest engraved his initials into the firewall with a screwdriver I dropped those plans :D:cool:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/24628448508_a56c268c59_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DwkeGy)20171117_181026 (https://flic.kr/p/DwkeGy)

[Vette1972]

Awesome! Enjoying the family pics. Keep us posted.

[broku518]

Baby got sick last night, I had to stay home today and work from home. Well, things just worked out and we got this delivered today.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4584/37677355595_1b9ffd461a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Zpqiae)20171121_101420 (https://flic.kr/p/Zpqiae)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4524/38533823072_2ffffcc863_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21H6V6S)20171121_102023 (https://flic.kr/p/21H6V6S)

[mach'er]

"Baby got sick last night." While I hope your kid is okay, my boss would probably never completely believe that excuse knowing what I've got cooking in the garage.

Your engine looks great.

[Yama-Bro]

Making some progress here. Boys are interested. The only tiny problem is when I have them all in the garage, mad house! :)
So I have them take turns or come and go as they please.

I was thinking about paiting the engine bay panels, but after my oldest engraved his initials into the firewall with a screwdriver I dropped those plans :D:cool:

I know what you are saying about the mad house! I only have two, and it looks like they are older than yours, and I still have to separate them.

I think that autograph is worth a lot more than Carol Shelby's! You better not paint it.

The progress is looking good!

[broku518]

"Baby got sick last night." While I hope your kid is okay, my boss would probably never completely believe that excuse knowing what I've got cooking in the garage.

Your engine looks great.

Thanks. Baby is feeling somewhat better, last thing I need is to have him sick during holidays.

[broku518]

I know what you are saying about the mad house! I only have two, and it looks like they are older than yours, and I still have to separate them.

I think that autograph is worth a lot more than Carol Shelby's! You better not paint it.

The progress is looking good!

Oh yes! That is what makes this build really special! These little crazy moments when kids work on the car...walking around with a screwdriver or hammer.
My wife was pretty OCD she would have flipped. I am more easy going guy. Just as a precaution, I taped the brake line closed and other critical openings, just in case ;)

[FLPBFoot]

Your boys are going to be so mechanical and so handy as they go through this with you! Great experience for all! Will be "Gear Heads" I bet too. Enjoy the time spent with them! I did with my two and they love doing brakes, suspension, all kinds of work on cars. Very relaxing and something fun to do as a hobby.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Oh yes! That is what makes this build really special!...

Start 'em young :cool:

No boys myself but our daughter presented us with a Grandson who likes nothing more than "Helping Pawpaw with the racing cars". He was not quite 4 when this pic was taken a couple of years ago :)

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77023&d=1482230716

Cheers,
Jeff

77023

[Gromit]

Making some progress here. Boys are interested. The only tiny problem is when I have them all in the garage, mad house! :)
So I have them take turns or come and go as they please.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4519/26724818769_46da27d436_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GHzFxp)20171114_181958 (https://flic.kr/p/GHzFxp)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4573/37613918205_65a787bbac_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZiPar8)20171115_182019 (https://flic.kr/p/ZiPar8)

I was thinking about paiting the engine bay panels, but after my oldest engraved his initials into the firewall with a screwdriver I dropped those plans :D:cool:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/24628448508_a56c268c59_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DwkeGy)20171117_181026 (https://flic.kr/p/DwkeGy)

Hey your making great progress with all the distractions. Memories that will last a life time.

I think you want to take a second look at the upper control arms. they typically need to have the ball joint mount flipped so it points out to the wheel not in to the frame. As delivered they are typically pointing the wrong way.

Chris AKA Gromit

[broku518]

Hey your making great progress with all the distractions. Memories that will last a life time.

I think you want to take a second look at the upper control arms. they typically need to have the ball joint mount flipped so it points out to the wheel not in to the frame. As delivered they are typically pointing the wrong way.

Chris AKA Gromit

Hi Gromit,
Thank you so much for pointing this out! I had no idea. Just to be clear, it is that upper golden looking thingy, right?

Thanks,
Martin

[Jeff Kleiner]

...Just to be clear, it is that upper golden looking thingy, right?

Thanks,
Martin

Yes, "golden looking thingy" and yes the way you have thm assembled is backwards.

Jeff

[broku518]

Flipped those golden looking thingys last night. Thank you guys again for pointing this out!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/26823855559_7c4d27ffe5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSkgJg)[url=https://flic.kr/p/GSkgJg]

[Gromit]

That's looking better amazing progress keep those photos coming

Chris AKA Gromit

[FormulaGod]

Building one of our cars, is actually pretty good therapy. That, or it will drive you insane..one of the two..:p



Yup. This. This right here.

[broku518]

Hello there. I need some feedback about break fluid reservoir mounting location. I did this based on manual, but noticed couple comments here that the canister should be located above the master cylinders. Do I need to fix this?

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[broku518]

Some updates. The pic above, I removed the reservoir and ordered double canister. Will have to mount it to the frame member to gain some elevation.
I also ordered the Mechanical Throttle Linkage.

With the banana welded on, fluid in, we were able to install the moser 8.8 without much trouble. Everything went pretty smoothly. Only needed to clean couple holes from having too much paint inside of them. No brute force needed. And yes, put on the tires, although there isn't any reason to do that. It just looks cool! :)

One thing I wondered how to make sure that axle is aligned with engine/tranny/shaft? I guess no way to tell until the combo is in place.
Also I noticed one front tire would rub the f panel when turned all the way. I guess this can be adjusted during alignment?
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/38810621881_d7694dec5a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/228yzK8)

The boys were playing who can spin the tire more and tug a war with them. Also learned about fuel system, aka what happens when you pump the gas at the gas station.
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I started to work on fuel lines, installed the fuel filter.
Mike Forte installed inline fuel pump that doesn't utilize a return line. So I guess I don't have to run one, just cap it off.
I am purposely leaving the floor and cockpit panel off, they are all drilled now. I think this will make things easier for me run; brake lines, emergency brakes, fuel line...

[Yama-Bro]

One of my front tires kisses the F panel when at full lock too. Not sure what can be done about it. Possibly limit the travel or bend the F panel slightly so there is clearance?

[Straversi]

One of my front tires kisses the F panel when at full lock too. Not sure what can be done about it. Possibly limit the travel or bend the F panel slightly so there is clearance?

Breeze sells some plastic clips that limit travel. You can trim them as needed and they can be added at any time. When you set your alignment some of the travel might change. My wheel travel seemed extreme and then I tightened everything up and aligned the front and it was less dramatic.

FF Metals makes a Wide Tire F Panel. You can see the extra bends in the bottom of the photo.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69388&d=1498435659

I installed the wide tire panels and they don't rub but might need to add the limit blocks anyway to keep from pinching my brake lines. One thing leads to another...

-Steve

[broku518]

One of my front tires kisses the F panel when at full lock too. Not sure what can be done about it. Possibly limit the travel or bend the F panel slightly so there is clearance?

I am thinking this will change once alignment is done.

@Steve ...Breeze sells some plastic clips that limit travel. You can trim them as needed and they can be added at any time.
Good to know, thanks!

Martin

[GoDadGo]

Hello there. I need some feedback about break fluid reservoir mounting location. I did this based on manual, but noticed couple comments here that the canister should be located above the master cylinders. Do I need to fix this?

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/26937589859_dde8321e84_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H3obYt)

You need to raise your reservoirs when you get the new double canister set up.
The top of those puppies needs to be above the height of the Master Cylinders.

You can see the height of my triple reservoir set up about 20 seconds in to this video:

[url]https://youtu.be/PCngiKoopkA (https://flic.kr/p/H3obYt)


PS: You've Got Some Great Helpers!

[broku518]

Thanks GoDadGo! Since taking this pic I already removed the single canister. I should be getting the double setup today. Saw your video, awesome build!

[broku518]

Oh, a lot of work done this weekend. Ran brake line front and rear, ran a fuel line on driver side. My fuel pump is located on left side, no return line.
Also got my portable welding machine from Amazon for $90 bucks. Went to a local hardware store and got some metal for $30 bucks.

I cut this out after marking the lines. I couldn't get long metal pieces to make it edge to edge. But I am happy with the final results. :) I am planning on getting carpet and the end.
I didn't do anything with the battery. I kinda like it there tucked away. I may just install those jumper plugs someplace more accessible.
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Used some metal to make up for the lost angle braces. I heard a lot of back and forth about the rear end collision, but I am sticking with this.
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Did some quick google search on how to weld. Then practice on spare metal to adjust the wire speed and amps. The setting is only low/high. So it was pretty simple.
Setting is on low and speed on 3 to lay nice bead. Cleaned and painted the bare metal.
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Here it is! Now I have a space to hall a welding machine around, or something else bulky....box of diaper, beer keg :)
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Next:
Bleeding brakes
wiring harness

Hints and tips are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Broku518

[Mark Eaton]

Wow Martin, I'm amazed! You haven't welded since high school and then you knock it out in a weekend. Looks great!

[Yama-Bro]

Good job on the welding. If you would have done this a month ago, I could have said you created the first FFR pickup, but I think they beat you to it. ;)

[broku518]

Wow Martin, I'm amazed! You haven't welded since high school and then you knock it out in a weekend. Looks great!

Thanks Mark. I am glad I practiced on some spare metal first. I was burning some serious holes there :)
I needed to knock it out fast since my boys would be getting there. Also, I didn't want to have this work on week nights.

[broku518]

Thanks Yama-Bro.
I am building a daily commuter car with some usable space there. Having said that, I am still paying attention to details and safety, just not taking it to that 'showcar' level. That upkeep and cleaning would drive me crazy..with 3 boys around. :D

[broku518]

Couple days ago I started working on wiring harness. At first I was scared looking at these wires, but after sending some time it isn't that bad. I wired the ignition switch. Was sitting there and turning the key; not much to start, but it felt goood. :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4592/25204579728_4d341b6892_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Epf4rs)20171215_090821 (https://flic.kr/p/Epf4rs)

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[broku518]

Last week or two were pretty exciting, learned how to remove bell housing, clutch and dial indicate the bell housing.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?26733-join-347-dart-with-tko600-tranny-anyone-knows-how-to-dial-them

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Now working on attaching the tko600. I am bit puzzled by how the fork should be installed.
Opened: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?26818-tko600-CLUTCH-FORK-amp-THROWOUT-BEARING-INSTALL&p=305918#post305918

[broku518]

Also, PackerFan/ Jim showed up today. Thank you for your help.

Looking at his ride, I guess he is a real fan or something :)
hm, this paint scheme may work on your mk4 as well, huh??

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[broku518]

Daddy's been pretty busy the last couple days. I was able to put the tko600 in today. It wasn't that hard, just to make sure that darn fork stayed on the pivot bolt.
Everything was already greased and adjusted. I only had to learn how things worked so I can come to the same conclusion. (Mike Forte is pretty awesome)
Also made sure TOB is installed the correct way.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4599/39181010262_6bb45e0205_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22GhViG)

Then I needed to figure it out how to pick the engine up. Called Mike F, told me that lift plate should be just fine., They do that all the time in their shop. Also, researched this technique and it seems pretty safe and quite common.
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Boys really enjoyed tha engine hoist handle, up and down, up and down :)
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Once I got it up I checked the engine mounts. And yes, same problem like Mark with his dart block. Luckily an easy fix.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4739/38501244334_2f4824d22d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21EdWzu)

Called GM dearlership and they told me that #12345349 carries new part number: 88900333.
Ordered tko600 oil from Amzon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026JK8FA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Now, what else is needed to put this baby in the crib??

[robertjamesellis]

Great progress! Sitting here showing off your helpers in the garage to my wife. Looks like you are enjoying the build. so you know, i was also researching the same about aligning the bell housing and was a little iffy if I needed to do it. Got my engine and tranny from Forte also. So I did like you and ordered up the tools and will be attaching my TKO600 to my 427 soon and making sure all is ok. Better safe than sorry. Thanks for taking the lead and letting us know how it went!

[broku518]

Great progress! Sitting here showing off your helpers in the garage to my wife. Looks like you are enjoying the build. so you know, i was also researching the same about aligning the bell housing and was a little iffy if I needed to do it. Got my engine and tranny from Forte also. So I did like you and ordered up the tools and will be attaching my TKO600 to my 427 soon and making sure all is ok. Better safe than sorry. Thanks for taking the lead and letting us know how it went!


Thanks Robert,
I am happy that you find this info helpful. Right now I am getting ready to drop the combo in.

items to check:
-transmission oil (ordered, pending)
-transmission plug cover (ordered from Forte, pending)
-mount blocks (done)
-clutch fork (done)
-A frame (checked and it fits, done)

questions:
-what else should I prep for?
-how do I check that everything is in line? tko600-driveshaft-rear end (I could do a visual check for straight line, but not sure what else...)
-to level engine, do I just place a level on intake manifold and level it?

[Papa]

You and the boys are making great progress! Just one recommendation - hold off on adding the trans fluid until after it is installed in the car. You are going to have a fairly severe angle on the trans when you install it and the fluid will be pouring out of the tail housing at the yoke.

[broku518]

You and the boys are making great progress! Just one recommendation - hold off on adding the trans fluid until after it is installed in the car. You are going to have a fairly severe angle on the trans when you install it and the fluid will be pouring out of the tail housing at the yoke.

Thanks Papa. I thought about that part. You are right. I can fill it up later and don't have to deal with any spills.

Thanks
Martin

[Gromit]

Crack open the fill plug while its out and on the floor, Someone else reported theirs was really torqued in tight and a pain to get it free after installed.. and X2 fill after drive shaft is in... the yoke is the seal on that end with out the Yoke in place there is noting to keep the fluid from poring out. I keep a spare yoke for when I am dropping my Trans

Chris AKA Gromit

[broku518]

Engine combo is in!
What a day, nice -7F outside. I got couple guys come over this morning. We talked about the plan and overall safety. We were using lift plate. You picked it up with a single hook. It was really easy to swivel in any direction. (I researched the lift plate option and it is pretty safe method) No need for engine leveler.

Site crew, some were Union members, so we needed an extra drinks and pre-meetings :)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4595/39317896221_e70cab229f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22UouJr)

Lifting up, making sure the tilt is right.
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I photobombed the engine install :)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4728/39317877711_db88e1a338_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22Uopei)

Checking the view, nice and low...:cool:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4596/27541203549_8fd95cb256_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HXHSi4)

note: I need to get a tko600 spacer to clear the round frame member.
I didn't installed the driveshaft, missing screws. FFR is shipping those.
Will have to check the angles once spacer is installed.

[Jazzman]

Congratulations! It looks like you had a great team and great time. But -7 degrees?!!!! And you opened the garage door? I'll be dead six weeks and I won't be -7 degrees. You are a hardy bunch. It's a great feeling to get that power plant installed, isn't it!! (By the way, that smile doesn't go away.)

[MPTech]

Congrats on the milestone.
It's NEVER TOO COLD to drop the engine in for the first time! :cool:

[Yama-Bro]

Looking good! You are more hardcore than me. It was 12 degrees when I went into my garage last Tuesday and turned on the heater. I was planning to work on the car all week. The heater ran for four or five hours and it only got up to 40 degrees. I decided I didn't want it that bad. There will be warner days.

[broku518]

Congratulations! It looks like you had a great team and great time. But -7 degrees?!!!! And you opened the garage door? I'll be dead six weeks and I won't be -7 degrees. You are a hardy bunch. It's a great feeling to get that power plant installed, isn't it!! (By the way, that smile doesn't go away.)

Thanks Jazzman. Yes, it is very satisfying. As far as the cold, nothing I can do about about, Chiberia...We should get a heat wave later this week, low 30s. :cool:

[broku518]

Congrats on the milestone.
It's NEVER TOO COLD to drop the engine in for the first time! :cool:

Thanks, this was the first time in my life I ever done anything like this.

[broku518]

Looking good! You are more hardcore than me. It was 12 degrees when I went into my garage last Tuesday and turned on the heater. I was planning to work on the car all week. The heater ran for four or five hours and it only got up to 40 degrees. I decided I didn't want it that bad. There will be warner days.

Nah, I am sure every time you walk by your project you have to stop for a moment and check on things.
Here in Chiberia, the cold will stay for a while. Sometime I need to move parts inside the house for couple days to warm up and be workable. For example, plastic connectors on dash gauges would crack in this cold. Also the heat shield material doesn't stick well in this cold.
Never mind the blue painter tape, I needed to use a heat gun to soften it and peel it easier

[broku518]

Not much progress, just bunch of small things that needs to be finished. Some parts don't fit right. And it is cold here.

One thing I finished was the e brake clevis with pulleys. It turned out pretty nice, no more rubbing.
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Also worked on the gas throttle linkage today. It is looking pretty good so far. Found out that I need to cut the rods to size and threat one size. (these are the small things that will require multiple trips to stores)
Now I need to get a drill bit size #3. No idea, but will need to get one before working on the threat.

I will cut the rods and leave there some room for adjustment later. It should be pretty easy to adjust the gas pedal response.

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Also finished the fuel pump connection. This was some task to find a male connector. Finally got one it looks just fine.
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Also got a angle protractor today. Preparing for the "pinion angle task." Not super excited about that, but I guess it should be done.
Do I need to adjust the ride height first?
Do I need to have the car on wheels or stands?

[Jeff Kleiner]

Preparing for the "pinion angle task." Not super excited about that, but I guess it should be done.
Do I need to adjust the ride height first?
Do I need to have the car on wheels or stands?

Adjust ride height first. Rear suspension has to be loaded; i.e. stands under the axle with the car's weight on the springs.

Jeff

[broku518]

Adjust ride height first. Rear suspension has to be loaded; i.e. stands under the axle with the car's weight on the springs.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff.
I need to do some research on 'normal' height and get one of those wrenches to adjust the koni shocks.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Thanks Jeff.
I need to do some research on 'normal' height and get one of those wrenches to adjust the koni shocks.

"Normal" is about 4 1/2" + or - 1/4" or so. No wrench needed; with the weight off of the springs the collars can be turned by hand.

Jeff

[edwardb]

Thanks Jeff.
I need to do some research on 'normal' height and get one of those wrenches to adjust the koni shocks.

Your final ride height is going to be in the 4-inch range, floor to bottom of the 4-inch tubes. Often a little more in the back, a little less in the front. But they will settle when new. For now, I'd recommend 4-1/2 to 4-3/4 front and back.

You don't need any special wrenches for the shocks. You have two already. On the ends of your arms. :o Unload the springs with a floor jack when adjusting. Don't try to adjust them under load. Some recommend some anti-sieze on the threads, and green Loctite (the wicking kind) for the sleeve to the body to keep it from turning. I've never done either and not had a problem. But keep an eye on it and do what works for you.

[broku518]

@Jeff + edwardb

Thanks guys for the info. For some reason I would loose a focus with a simple task. AND with a complex one I would finish in no time. :D
(keep it simple, use common sense, step back and reevaluate)

[broku518]

Pinion angle party

Please comment on this. I am working on this tonight and likely this weekend. I am not technically versed in mechanical parts terminology.

Here we go: Been tweaking and turning up down things. Here is where I will stop and get some beer and pizza.
Tranny: the end is pointing down 2 degrees.
3link solid axle/ pinion is leveled, 0 degree. (measuring the front of the pumpkin for future reference)

I feel like I should lower the pinion about 2 degrees , so when this thing kicks up during 'hard acceleration' it will go back to 0.
(I only plan to hard accelerate on Friday afternoon and weekends :)

The part I am kinds confused is the parallel view. If I have tranny pointing down 2 degree, then the pinion should go 2 degrees up to be parallel. But this would make the gap 4 degrees.

Thanks,
Martin


So what do I do now? I

[Jeff Kleiner]

I think you mean parallel, not perpendicular.

I know you watched the pinion angle saga a couple of weeks ago. Please don't overthink it and make it harder than it needs to be. Does this help:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78314&d=1514586767

All you're looking for is about 2 degrees difference in the orientation shown in the diagram. Print this image and rotate it so that the line through the transmission is pointing down front to rear if it helps you visualize it. You have my number if you get stumped but it really isn't voodoo or black magic.

Good luck,
Jeff

[broku518]

I downloaded the Tremec driveline app and it mentioned there..However, angles that are 'equal and opposite' are most desirable...

So based on this logic I should be fine. Right now I am at 0 and down 2 degrees. So when I hard accelerate hard it may kick up to 2 degrees up. That would make it equal and opposite.

[broku518]

Making progress. Huge thanks to Jeff for simplifying the pinion angle! Got it lined up and works line a charm :) Ended up using 7/8" spacer under tko600.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4650/25822166248_cee44fe1ba_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FkPmoU)

Worked on couple other things. I know the oil relocation isn't needed for my small block, but it really clears the way for the clutch cable. So I did it and like it very much!
[url=https://flic.kr/p/FkNW4b]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4608/25822084368_a12e3dc7f1_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FkPmoU)

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Now looking at this, I think I need to relocate the battery as well...:)

[broku518]

Radiator lower support.

Originally I wanted to go with the set from Breeze site. After looking at this I figured, heck I can make my own! Don't get me wrong, I don't really have a budget for the build, but like to use a common sense and make my own parts and safe money for things that I can't figure it out. Pus like to say; I build it! :)

Went to Home Depot and got some parts. 1/2" x 36" threaded rod, 4x 1/2" nuts and some wooden porch steel plate.
I got some leftover hose from the oil relocation kit and it fits nicely over the 1/2" rod.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4602/39061020524_19f83531ce_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22vFWx7)20180118_184606 (https://flic.kr/p/22vFWx7)

After ~30min of drilling and using angle grinder I ended up with something like this:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/24901171517_6efb2967ae_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DWr1Kp)20180118_191326 (https://flic.kr/p/DWr1Kp)

Then measured 51 degrees on radiator, drilled couple holes and installed it.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4723/38871983975_c724e6db8d_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22dZ5yg)20180118_193152 (https://flic.kr/p/22dZ5yg)

I think it looks pretty slick with some room to adjust, if needed.
Parts: 10 bucks
45min sweat labor.

[Jeff Kleiner]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4717/39663180132_654042eb7e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23qUaBj)[url=https://flic.kr/p/23qUaBj]



Coming along nicely Martin! Maybe this photo is deceptive but it appears that your reserviors may be a little too far forward; you need them to be no less than 20" back from the radiator cross tube to have adequate hood gas strut clearance.

Jeff

[broku518]

Thanks Jeff. Looks like I am right there with some room to spare :)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4610/24910201607_c5cbda420f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DXei5B)20180119_091449

[broku518]

I finished installing the foot boxes, firewall and tunnel. Considering doing the back wall and floors as well.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/24969421407_b8f0b68b1b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E3sP4D)

Also finished the water cooling. The inline filler neck in complete kit comes with tubes on both ends. Those are too small for stainless pipe. I cut them and used other tubes. Also went to Autozone to get couple tubes with size and angle I needed. The clerk kept asking for a car model...not very helpful....ended up going to back and visually picked the ones that I could use/cut apart needed.
(it was from Dodge and Nissan :)

hint: when connecting the tubes. It is pretty hard to slide the rubber over the tube. Perhaps the cold. I warmed up the rubber to soften a bit and used a bit of oil on inside to slide in easier. Worked like a charm.

installed one of the headers (bolts are only hand tight). Didn't do the starter side, will need to work on the wiring part first.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/23GuLjX]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4654/39839678171_c309e7989c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E3sP4D)

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You can see the rear brake line in close proximity to headers, couple inches, but I will cover this with some heat shield tape to be safe. Originally I ran it inside the foot box, had a leak and needed to rework it. Real pain doing this inside.



I thought about moving the battery to the front. But then realized, heck I would like to have a disconnect switch, so I need to run the cable back and forth.
So, battery will be in the trunk with charge post [url]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BZZA5Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 (https://flic.kr/p/23DDTfS)

Then will install the disconnect switch under dash and some terminal block or stub post (likely in engine bay) and one lead wire to solenoid. All will be streamlined, no going back and forth.
One thing I noticed other people do is "starter relay" Not sure what that is or if I need it.

[broku518]

My little one decided to help out last night. Cutting, cutting....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/39146875194_9428cda52b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22DgY93)

Yes boy, I think it's going be a loud one!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4656/39146875274_bf4316670c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22DgYaq)

Started with this 'spaghetti dinner' last night. After couple hours it looks pretty slick. I wired blinkers, and hazard switch, but need to decide where to drill hole for those.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4700/38958183555_624eced667_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22mASFV)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4613/39146875394_754d854219_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22DgYcu)

[Straversi]

Wiring is looking good. Intimidating at first but it eventually falls into place. Looks like you have it under control.
-Steve

[broku518]

Wiring is looking good. Intimidating at first but it eventually falls into place. Looks like you have it under control.
-Steve

Right Steve. I was really dreading doing this. I found every excuse to work on something else :)
Last night I put the boys in bed and worked on it. Nice and quiet, it was a breeze.

Thanks,
Martin

[John Ibele]

Nice work, Martin, and thanks for all the build detail. So much to keep track of. Now I need to put some tape on the frame where I need the reservoirs to go...

[broku518]

Nice work, Martin, and thanks for all the build detail. So much to keep track of. Now I need to put some tape on the frame where I need the reservoirs to go...

Thanks John. I started a list with various tasks. I just couldn't keep it all in my head, so many things. Also, some small projects are one step forward and two steps back as you go.

Glad you found this build helpful.

[SelectivePC]

Awesome build, still tons to do but loving the pictures. Now that you finally got them figured out, haha.

[Papa]

Looking good, Martin! Can't wait for the first start video. You're getting close.

Dave

[broku518]

Looking good, Martin! Can't wait for the first start video. You're getting close.

Dave

Me too, me too. Been sick with the flu last week or so. Recovering now. Hoping to pick up again later this week.

Thanks,
Martin

[broku518]

I think I can , I think I can...start it up very soon.
Hooked up the battery, got lights on and my boys tested the horn. Loud and clear, multiple times.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4624/25227959327_5bb8072e84_z.jpg

Went with the red top in the trunk. Also debating if I should drill the roll bar or use Tangent screw kit.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/FXtts7]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4707/26225681598_0320c743c7_z.jpg

Couple things left: install side pipes, engine coolant, premium gas and extra oil due to relocation kit.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/EriTjH]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4697/25227959137_3b569851fa_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EriTnZ)[url=https://flic.kr/p/EriTjH]

[Yama-Bro]

The engine with the headers sticking out looks so cool it's almost a shame to put the body on. Keep up the good work!

[broku518]

So I took week off and visited FL Orlando/ Clearwater and Legoland with my boys. Much needed break and now I asking myself why do we still live in Chicago? :)

Anyhow, I attempted to start up the car today. Got gas, battery and cooling done. Was hoping for some nice rock&roll show today!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4678/38558554900_08f98d59f7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21KhF1G)

Hm, after cranking for awhile and checking that fuel was getting to the mechanical pump, but not up to carburetor. Called Mike Forte and it was recommended to pour some gas in carburetor to get engine start up and spin the pump faster.

Will work on this Friday or this weekend.

Almost there :)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4678/39471890835_1be43ca7ab_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/238ZKXZ)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4672/38558555500_af2352eb5c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21KhFc3)

I would post a video, but it was a whole bunch of tatatatatatat ;)

[Al_C]

I'm looking forward to your video. Especially if the kids are in the driver's seat!

[broku518]

I'm looking forward to your video. Especially if the kids are in the driver's seat!

Thanks Al. I will attempt to start it again later this week. Feel free to stop by.
Kids may have to wear some ear protection. They sure like to push buttons, they can turn the key as well. :)

[broku518]

Yes!! it started! Oh boy, that sound, wonderful :)

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOejS-zuqon5u00BstEp60jJN4jLFxmlxfhUtWxyTCP_sfNDB8WxgPMO AJdgFeyiA?key=dWs2X3NkVkdVa1ppejZULUNHNVpuODhtTUxK N0FR

PS: boys don't like the sound, scary machine :) may take some time to get used to it....

[Jeff Kleiner]

Congrats Martin!

Jeff

[Al_C]

I love it! (tell the boys the car has super powers and they won't think it's a scary machine!)

[Mark Dougherty]

Congrats and enjoy the build

[broku518]

Thanks ALL! It is a wonderful feeling.
https://youtu.be/jh4onCeyM3w

I keep chugging along, one day at a time.

[Yama-Bro]

Congrats man!

[broku518]

Congrats man!

Thanks! I may make this my default ring tone on my cell. Imagine, this ringing during a meeting. Hilarious.

[broku518]

Ok, more updates. After the start up I noticed couple things leaking.
1/ The gas line was leaking - fixed.
2/ The brake lines were leaking - fixed.
3/ The coolant was leaking and busted open, one of the rubber tubes wasn't properly hooked up - fixed.
4/ I forgot to run the coil wire feed. Noticed the wire in EFI bundle. I wasn't paying it much attention since I am carburetor. - fixed.
5/ Noticed missing fan temp sensor. Luckily, I noticed the temp getting high and stopped - part in mail.
I forgot to connect the green fan switch wire in sending bundle. For some reason I was thinking that the temp gauge wire would trigger the cooling fan. I was obviously wrong.

Other than that it went pretty good.

I also installed the vinyl dashboard using rivnuts. I used those on brake line cover as well.

I worked on finishing the sound/heat insulation. Used up 3 rolls and it was just about right amount to cover.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24Vceut]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4707/40639728751_ce2554631e_z.jpg

Kids make their own version of Cobra, with way more buttons :)
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24RtQvJ]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/40597702372_6b20588d8f_z.jpg
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24RtQCN]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4714/40597702782_d33f79b9df_z.jpg

[Scubasommer]

Ok, more updates. After the start up I noticed couple things leaking.
1/ The gas line was leaking - fixed.
2/ The brake lines were leaking - fixed.
3/ The coolant was leaking and busted open, one of the rubber tubes wasn't properly hooked up - fixed.
4/ I forgot to run the coil wire feed. Noticed the wire in EFI bundle. I wasn't paying it much attention since I am carburetor. - fixed.
5/ Noticed missing fan temp sensor. Luckily, I noticed the temp getting high and stopped - part in mail.
I forgot to connect the green fan switch wire in sending bundle. For some reason I was thinking that the temp gauge wire would trigger the cooling fan. I was obviously wrong.

Other than that it went pretty good.

I also installed the vinyl dashboard using rivnuts. I used those on brake line cover as well.

I worked on finishing the sound/heat insulation. Used up 3 rolls and it was just about right amount to cover.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24Vceut]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4707/40639728751_ce2554631e_z.jpg

Kids make their own version of Cobra, with way more buttons :)
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24RtQvJ]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/40597702372_6b20588d8f_z.jpg
[url=https://flic.kr/p/24RtQCN]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4714/40597702782_d33f79b9df_z.jpg

Hey Martin
Things are looking good in your garage!!
I love the boys cobra....you can NEVER have too many bottons on the dash at that age ��
I have a similar situation....lost my wife suddenly just before New Years (never sick a day in her life and then...)
We had always said when we hit 50 I would build us a cobra for her and I to tool around in ( she wasn’t to keen on all the race cars ). However that didn’t happen....so a month ago I jumped on the train in Chicago and went to Factory Five and placed my order. My MK4 will be delivered in July and I will build it in her honor!
If you feel like a visit or need a set of hands I am only 45 minuets from you and would love to pick your brain.
Thanks and I am REALLY enjoying your build with the boys!
Jimmy

[broku518]

Hi Jimmy,
I am sorry for your loss :( I know, everything is blur and there isn't any sense of direction or purpose. Sorry. I am 15 months out, things do get better on some level.

You are welcome anytime! Feel free to txt/call @919-412-5956 anytime. This weekend I am planning to do some go carting around my neighborhood.
We can talk cars, grief or whatever you have on your mind. Or just have a beer :)

Martin

[broku518]

Working on some odd things.

Started to assemble the hood hinges and noticed they are bit loose. The nut is tightened all the way and still room to play. I may need to use additional washer to make it snug.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4787/40718527751_2636aaea96_z.jpg

I am not sure how far in the steering wheel goes, but it looks like it should be flushed with the base. You can see the rod still needs to go. Still room to go, but pretty tight. May need to sand the side a bit.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/Fo2yiZ]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4802/25847180667_d70fcbcb0b_z.jpg

I heard people mentioning something about door handles, so I tweak them as well :)
Found some spare bolts from toilet and they fit pretty good! (note: new, never used ;)
I still need to to do the handle knob, but don't have the proper tools.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/Fo2yoD]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4799/25847180937_9ced80eae1_z.jpg

[url=https://flic.kr/p/253a73B]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4799/40718528951_1bf178a96c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/253a6FV)

And, I finally got the fan sensor installed. Left is the fan sensor (single wire), right temp gauge (two wire).

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4796/25847181207_c8b0c07181_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Fo2yti)

...tomorrow will check the radiator fan on/off and will do some go carting.

[Scubasommer]

Hi Jimmy,
I am sorry for your loss :( I know, everything is blur and there isn't any sense of direction or purpose. Sorry. I am 15 months out, things do get better on some level.

You are welcome anytime! Feel free to txt/call @919-412-5956 anytime. This weekend I am planning to do some go carting around my neighborhood.
We can talk cars, grief or whatever you have on your mind. Or just have a beer :)

Martin

Cool cool may take you up on the offer and see how the build is going in person next weekend if your available!
Jimmy

[broku518]

Ok, today was just awesome! took the car out, tested the fan sensor., It works like a charm, starts at 85C and run even with the ignition key removed. So we did some go carting today, yeah!

I can't even remember how many times I took these kids around the neighborhood :) They LOVED IT!! I can't wipe the smile off of my face, sweet.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4798/40025826614_9719936428_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23YWPLS)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4789/40693195942_fff3cd9282_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24ZVgqA)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4798/40693197532_7b9393c0fb_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24ZVgU1)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4782/38925735580_0a6eb34a50_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22iJz35)

Then inspected for leaks and missing parts. Got 3 leaks, gas line, oil, and tranny leaks where I used the speedo instead of spending more money (lesson learned, need the correct plug)
Other than that, temp is ~80C,
No major noise or vibration,
smooth ride.
Brakes can use a bleed again, kinda spongy.

[MPTech]

Looks great! Don't .forget to properly break-in your pads too.

[broku518]

Looks great! Don't .forget to properly break-in your pads too.

Stupid question. I have no idea what that means? Are you talking about brakes?

[speedfreak1211]

R the kids liking the sound of the car now?

[broku518]

R the kids liking the sound of the car now?

Haha, noone even cares( they were scared of the sound before)! They love ride, feel of it, wind blowing and being nice and low:)

[steno]

I’m glad you had a chance to get it out! With a couple nice days here and there, I get anxious to pull the cover off and go for a spin! I have a couple little things to do first.
Congratulations!! Sten

[broku518]

I fixed the steering wheel, it needed some hand sanding and it fit right in.
I got rid of the oil relocation kit, 8 less connection to keep track of.
Ordered couple pastes for the gas line. Also ordered the proper tko600 plug from M. Forte.

I also put on some seat belts to keep my monkeys in. (got only 4 points for now, will do the fifth after seat is mounted)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4789/39874563385_96144ff202_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23Kzyua)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4775/39874563565_e887d0ba55_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23Kzyxg)

[Yama-Bro]

Looking good!

[WIS89]

Martin-

Congratulations! The car looks great, and the kids look even better!! They are clearly completely engaged in this project with you. I love their smiles; they look so happy!!

Keep up the great work, and please keep posting pics. It's great seeing the kids -- oh, and your progress too! HA

Regards,

Steve

[broku518]

Martin-

Congratulations! The car looks great, and the kids look even better!! They are clearly completely engaged in this project with you. I love their smiles; they look so happy!!

Keep up the great work, and please keep posting pics. It's great seeing the kids -- oh, and your progress too! HA

Regards,

Steve

Thanks Steve! With the go carting stage, the kids are way more involved testing :) I feel like I should charge 25 cents per ride!

FYI - I will be in Raleigh from 3/27-4/2. Perhaps we can ohh and ahh your creation? :cool:

[broku518]

Last night I was able to finish the door handles. (used some toilet screws and 6/32s for the handle knobs)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/794/26956724908_bbb42a3e97_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H55ga7)

Also worked on side pipes hangers. I am not sure if they provide any support at all. For now I will leave it like it is. I left the (pipe side) inner screw out to allow for movement up/down. Considering mounting the second rubber support to the frame. Thoughts?

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/795/40826448631_2d85e1d361_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25cGdNK)

[Martin]

Your build is so clean. Nothing like mine. I was told that the hangers for the side pipes need to be under some tension so that's what I did. Might be a few threads on it if you do a seach, but I was told by the Traveling Builder (Mark Dougherty) and he knows his stuff so I took it as gospel.

[broku518]

Your build is so clean. Nothing like mine. I was told that the hangers for the side pipes need to be under some tension so that's what I did. Might be a few threads on it if you do a seach, but I was told by the Traveling Builder (Mark Dougherty) and he knows his stuff so I took it as gospel.

Hi, thanks. I am trying, but it isn't a show car level :)
Can you share a pic, please? I am thinking, to get some tension, to install the second rubber mount on the frame side. This will make things a bit tighter and still allow for movement, if needed.

[edwardb]

Also worked on side pipes hangers. I am not sure if they provide any support at all. For now I will leave it like it is. I left the (pipe side) inner screw out to allow for movement up/down. Considering mounting the second rubber support to the frame. Thoughts?

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/795/40826448631_2d85e1d361_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25cGdNK)

You need to add the second rubber support on the frame. That will provide the necessary support.

Using only one bolt on the pipe itself, and leaving it slightly loose so it can pivot, is recommended by many. Prevents possibly breaking off the tab on the pipe.

[broku518]

You need to add the second rubber support on the frame. That will provide the necessary support.

Using only one bolt on the pipe itself, and leaving it slightly loose so it can pivot, is recommended by many. Prevents possibly breaking off the tab on the pipe.

Thanks Edwardb. I felt like it should be attached as well. Will finish it.

[David Hodgkins]

<interruption>



Using only one bolt on the pipe itself, and leaving it slightly loose so it can pivot, is recommended by many. Prevents possibly breaking off the tab on the pipe.
Hmm. I've never heard about that, although it makes sense. Thanks for the tip!

:)
</interruption>

[WIS89]

Thanks Steve! With the go carting stage, the kids are way more involved testing :) I feel like I should charge 25 cents per ride!

FYI - I will be in Raleigh from 3/27-4/2. Perhaps we can ohh and ahh your creation? :cool:

Martin-

I think if you charged $.25 per ride, you could likely pay it off in a couple of weeks; those smiles tell the whole story!

If you would like to stop by, just let me know. My creation is far behind yours in progress. However, you are welcome to come take a look. Shoot me a PM if you'd like.

Congratulations again on your progress!

Regards,

Steve

[broku518]

Yesterday we started to work on trunk carpet. I like the look and feel. Went to Menards and got some car carpeting, they have multiple colors. Baby wanted to get a green, I choose the plain and boring gray.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/807/39052156100_bf1faa669c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22uUvsd)

Boys needed to test the cushion and sleep comfort level. It was approved!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/785/39052157190_30c2e90aa2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22uUvM1)

I started working from the seat belt area and slowly work my way out. No need to measure much, this stuff is pretty flexible and forgiving.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4795/40153310534_236ea514d2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24bddiu)

Working more on trunk areas. The paint glue is more expensive than the whole carpet! :)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4779/40153308194_8f52992d4c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24bdcB9)

Final results. I really like it! Super cheap and easy thing to do.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/803/39052158710_2657bd0fc0_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22uUwed)

[broku518]

...and, finally, it is baby approved! ;)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/818/39968057335_fa67f8ef4e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23TQJYP)

[Jeff Kleiner]

Looking good Martin! I've used that exact same Menard's carpet in the trunk of 3 or 4 of 'em.

Jeff

[Scubasommer]

Final results. I really like it! Super cheap and easy thing to do.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/803/39052158710_2657bd0fc0_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22uUwed)[/QUOTE]

I had the distinct pleasure of visiting with Martin (and his youngest helper) today. What a great guy and a great build. Took the time to go over questions I had for 2 hours and proudly show me what he has done on his build to-date!!!
I am truly thankful for the time spent with me and his build looks even better in Person!

Thanks Martin keep up the great work!
Jimmy

[broku518]

[/QUOTE]

I had the distinct pleasure of visiting with Martin (and his youngest helper) today. What a great guy and a great build. Took the time to go over questions I had for 2 hours and proudly show me what he has done on his build to-date!!!
I am truly thankful for the time spent with me and his build looks even better in Person!

Thanks Martin keep up the great work!
Jimmy[/QUOTE]

Hi Jimmy,
It was pleasure to have you over. Sorry, we talked so much about the car, I didn't even offered you a beer!

[broku518]

The last couple days we have been driving around (~32 miles) our neighborhood.

-fixed leaks and don't see any new ones.
-engine temp is ~80C and fan working great.
-no parts missing
-no strange/usual noise
-brakes works better after I bled them again
-speedo is working, forgot to attach gps cable
-tach is working, forgot to run a cable to coil to pick up the pulse.
-noticed fuel pump needs config, later
-clock (heard that some people use the radio/mem cable from resetting it over and over)

Never seen so many thumbs up driving around :cool:
We even saw a police car, got bit scared - cop just looked and gave us a thumb up!

[broku518]

I decided that I would need to charge my electronic devices, phone and such. So I ordered this USB and 12v charging kit from Amazon.
From leftover cover I cut out bracket and mounted under the dash. To power it I used one of the unused cables heat/radio/wipers/light, works fine.
Out of sight and supports the dash as well. :)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/818/40062575305_605ae8b7c2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/243caSZ)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/804/40914230252_3a140dca3f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25ks8dY)


I also used the radio_mem feed to power my clock.

I am in the process of installing the cockpit carpet. I was surprised how easy it was to the trunk areas, so I started this as well. Got most of it done, a lot of black in pictures :)
Hint: get a really sharp knife and don't cut your fingers! Lay carpet pieces before gluing. That way you can see how the seems lines up and minimize the trimming.

[Yama-Bro]

Nice charging ports. Those are a must nowadays.

[broku518]

Hello,
I felt like trying the body on today. It was two man job, surprisingly easy. I haven't done front wheel alignment, so it may still look off.
I heard that is kinda important to line up the door opening with the lock thingy. I am not sure what else to look for. To me it look pretty good!
But again, I have no idea

The side exhaust pipes aren't lining up with the cutouts, but I think that is somewhat expected and will be tweaked later.
I am thinking I should finish the wheel alignment first.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/822/27120106008_f878898ce7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjvCEC)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/821/27120106928_75a503e38d_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjvCWu)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/792/27120107928_16a80118d5_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjvDeJ)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/819/27120108928_1c0bceeaa0_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjvDwY)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4784/26120216407_c8a32f9661_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FN9WjK)

[Jeff Kleiner]

It appears that you don't have the body all the way down so that the rockers can wrap around under the chassis. 3 link rear? If so the rearward position of the back wheel in the opening may indicate that the pinion angle is not set properly however until the body is fully down and located front to rear we can't know for sure if that may simply be because the body needs to move.

Jeff

[broku518]

It appears that you don't have the body all the way down so that the rockers can wrap around under the chassis. 3 link rear? If so the rearward position of the back wheel in the opening may indicate that the pinion angle is not set properly however until the body is fully down and located front to rear we can't know for sure if that may simply be because the body needs to move.

Jeff

Hi Jeff, Thanks! Right, it moved down a bit, now the under body lip in under the body. Will post more pics...

[broku518]

So today is another 'body on and body off' day. I noticed couple spots where the bulbs seal was pretty tight - trunk sides and lower areas. Also, the door striker area could use a trim.
I was thinking about trimming the dashboard lip part, but first I only removed couple washers that I used under the screws to hold it in place.

After I trimmed all these areas and removed the washers, the body was super easy to install. Like 30sec :)
Next I installed the rear and front QJ bolts. Check the gap in hood opening in relation to the frame, pretty close.

Now I am prepping for the windshield fit....more to come.

[broku518]

...I was bit spooked about the wheel position, but realized later that alignment is still needed.
To make me feel better I turned the upper arm bolts and move the wheel in favorable angle

Summary:
My door strikers are about 1/4" recessed in relation to the fiberglass door opening. On both sides.
Body is wrapped around the bottom edge (on sides).
I will trim the dashboard rolled edge. I noticed it isn't entirely even and see some gaps there. It isn't a must, but it bugs me.
Trimmed trunk area, sides and lower plates about 1"4"
Trimmed both sides out panels to get better fit. Panels behind the seats where the bulb seal goes.
Front body centered in relation to the frame. Measured front multiple frame members.

Ignored the front wheels, no alignment done. The rear looks pretty good.

Overall body fit experience: Scared the heck out - talked about it - got some beer - simplified - super easy

[Scubasommer]

...I was bit spooked about the wheel position, but realized later that alignment is still needed.
To make me feel better I turned the upper arm bolts and move the wheel in favorable angle

Summary:
My door strikers are about 1/4" recessed in relation to the fiberglass door opening. On both sides.
Body is wrapped around the bottom edge (on sides).
I will trim the dashboard rolled edge. I noticed it isn't entirely even and see some gaps there. It isn't a must, but it bugs me.
Trimmed trunk area, sides and lower plates about 1"4"
Trimmed both sides out panels to get better fit. Panels behind the seats where the bulb seal goes.
Front body centered in relation to the frame. Measured front multiple frame members.

Ignored the front wheels, no alignment done. The rear looks pretty good.

Overall body fit experience: Scared the heck out - talked about it - got some beer - simplified - super easy

Looking good brother!

[broku518]

Looking good brother!

Thanks Jimmy!
Baby was working on the body, smoothing out dings, or rather making new ones!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/883/27164357818_243cb4f873_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HoqrbS)

Also tested the backlight on gauges, sweet :)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/889/27164366288_37358ce357_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HoqtGU)

[broku518]

Alright, back to work. Today was working on some loose ends on carpet area.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/794/39516774330_7d24aa84b4_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23cXNgm)
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And did the most important mod of all, cup holders!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/808/41326468621_985c6499b5_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25XSXk4)

Also got some cheap floor mats and trim them to fit, not bad.
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[MPTech]

Looks Great!
The cheap floor mats are a great idea, but be CAREFUL they won't stay put, unless you anchor them some way or mount them to something stiff.
The drivers side will push forward and can get bunched up under your gas and/or brake. Just be careful.

[Pat427]

Are those the upgraded polished pipes?

[broku518]

Looks Great!
The cheap floor mats are a great idea, but be CAREFUL they won't stay put, unless you anchor them some way or mount them to something stiff.
The drivers side will push forward and can get bunched up under your gas and/or brake. Just be careful.

Thanks for the tip. Right now they feel very snug, I trimmed them very tight, can't even pull them out without a significant effort. But will watch out for this.

[broku518]

Are those the upgraded polished pipes?

Are you referring to these side pipes? Yes, they are.

[Pat427]

Thanks. I'm debating if I should get the polished side pipes or not. The upgrade for the polished pipes is pretty expensive and I'm trying to decide if that's worth the cost or if polishing the side pipes is something I can do on my own.

[doddmoore]

Thanks. I'm debating if I should get the polished side pipes or not. The upgrade for the polished pipes is pretty expensive and I'm trying to decide if that's worth the cost or if polishing the side pipes is something I can do on my own.
I was having this same debate myself but have decided on going with Gas-N pipes because of the sound. They are pricey so it will be an add on for later, which means I will be going with the bare pipes that come with the kit first. No sense spending on the upgraded polished pipes when I'm just going to replace them later.

[broku518]

Thanks. I'm debating if I should get the polished side pipes or not. The upgrade for the polished pipes is pretty expensive and I'm trying to decide if that's worth the cost or if polishing the side pipes is something I can do on my own.

Right, I guess this would be based on your overall scheme idea. I like the chrome look on outside, matching the rest of parts. You can also get them bare and paint it yourself,wrap it or coat it.

Thanks,

Broku518

[edwardb]

Thanks. I'm debating if I should get the polished side pipes or not. The upgrade for the polished pipes is pretty expensive and I'm trying to decide if that's worth the cost or if polishing the side pipes is something I can do on my own.

Kind of apples and oranges there. The polished stainless sidepipes from Factory Five are just that. Polished stainless steel. The base pipes (I'm assuming that's what you're talking about) are mild steel with a standard mill finish and not made for polishing. They need to be painted, ceramic coated, whatever. HTH

[broku518]

Last couple days. Started on alignment. To be honest, I don't like it. My floor isn't leveled, I needed to measure each time I moved to other wheel. Also, keeping up with 3 different angles isn't that easy. First aligned the rear, then ran some kite strings and measured toe. The caster and camber is another story by itself. I got it close, but still need a professional shop to dial it perfect. No worries there.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/809/41416915552_b9fd1daf14_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/266Sw3U)

Worked on lighting connectors, got some handy testers, lights on, off, on, off, on, off, repeat :)
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[Boydster]

I found it easiest to set ride heights, square the rear, set front camber and caster, yes it requires going back n forth a bunch and sometimes you're turning the upper adjusters 1 flat at a time. Once I get the caster and camber where I want it, repeatable and accurate, I set the toe. Go back and double check and be proud.

Make sure you have your steering rack centered in the frame and then have the steering wheel marked for the center of the rack. When you do toe, make damn sure the front wheels are straight ahead. You can have 1/16 toe and still be 5* to the right...

I went through a lot of questions and re-dos on mine, but I got it and on Go-Kart, the Boss was straight and cool....

[broku518]

I found it easiest to set ride heights, square the rear, set front camber and caster, yes it requires going back n forth a bunch and sometimes you're turning the upper adjusters 1 flat at a time. Once I get the caster and camber where I want it, repeatable and accurate, I set the toe. Go back and double check and be proud.

Make sure you have your steering rack centered in the frame and then have the steering wheel marked for the center of the rack. When you do toe, make damn sure the front wheels are straight ahead. You can have 1/16 toe and still be 5* to the right...

I went through a lot of questions and re-dos on mine, but I got it and on Go-Kart, the Boss was straight and cool....

Thanks Boydster, but I will let this one go. With 3 kids around and time constrains it isn't as enjoyable.
I figured I will need to get a hitch to tow this rocket to Jeff Kleiner for paint this winter. So I getting the hitch sooner, to tow to alignment shop/

[Boydster]

Understood, man. We all have limitations for different reasons and need to know where and what they are. Mine is bodywork... ��

[broku518]

I am working on brake vents. I saw some on ********** site, but figured I can make my own. In my case this just to cover the openings, not to cool my brakes.
Went to Menards and got this wire mesh, 7 bucks, smallest they got :)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/786/41430826522_ffb08d2310_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2686Pid)

Little a bit of cutting and bending, not bad!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/897/40759769604_05ea367f50_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/256Ntsm)

[broku518]

Busy, busy last couple days. I needed to double check my alignment. I did it myself, but wasn't entirely trusting it. So I did something I shouldn't - I drove it to nearby Firestone shop. It was about 2 miles.
When I got there, the entire shop stopped working and came over and started taking pictures and asking questions.
Same while driving in traffic, it felt like I was in a parade - people smiling and staring :)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/807/41632362531_e83d490ff7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/26qUJVZ)

Then went home and hired this painting crew, they did awesome job on painting the inside. Black rubber paint.
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Then I worked some random stuff.
Trimmed dash edge,
installed the body,
fitted back and front bolts, using 3/4 sleeve and rubber grommets.
installed lights,
roll bar,
trunk lock and plate/light.
Windsheild, pain in the butt, used shims
fitted door, passenger side looks better, driver is ok
install door lock, drilled out the lock opening on driver side for easy unlock
install door rubber hinges
gas tank cap

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/39824312690_5e455e0a74_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23F91GS)
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Noticed that it would be a pain to work on rear mirror, pending...
Need to research the rear and front chrome bumper install hints.

[GoDadGo]

You've Got The Best Helpers On The Planet!

Glad they are able to help you with your build.

[broku518]

You've Got The Best Helpers On The Planet!

Glad they are able to help you with your build.

Thanks Steve. They are helpful, but it all depends on their moods :)

[Yama-Bro]

Thanks Steve. They are helpful, but it all depends on their moods :)

I'm sure the pizza helped motivate them. ;). Looking good!

[broku518]

Busy, busy, busy. Worked on many things I can't even recall them. Looking at the pictures:
-lights
-front bumper kit
-rear bumper kit
-cut and fitted side pipes
-drilled seats and bolted in place
-drilled submarine belt, HUGE thanks to Jacob McCrea for shipping the brackets!!!

Also, did a Doughnuts and Starbucks run to test out the cup holders. For some reason we drove ~20miles. :)

Observations:
-59 miles total
-smiling for no reason :)
-noticed oil pressure fluctuating a bit. For some reason I thought it would stay still
-no missing parts
-no leaks
-turn signal relay bad. It worked before, not it doesn't. I switched it with the flasher relay to validate it. Ordered a new one from Amazon.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/903/27894312918_fd537f1918_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JuVDpC)

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[Papa]

She looks great, Martin. You are moving right along. I hope to start making more progress in a couple of weeks. Right now it's all about getting the spring property chores done.

Keep up the great work,
Dave

[cv2065]

Really nice work Martin! You and your helpers pace is very encouraging, as I hope to get mine by July and am shooting to have completed by Christmas. Thanks for the build thread!!

[broku518]

She looks great, Martin. You are moving right along. I hope to start making more progress in a couple of weeks. Right now it's all about getting the spring property chores done.

Keep up the great work,
Dave

Thanks Dave! It may seem fast, but I am only doing minimal body work/fitting. This will done by Jeff in winter.
The main goal right now is to get it inspected. After that I can keep on working...

[broku518]

Really nice work Martin! You and your helpers pace is very encouraging, as I hope to get mine by July and am shooting to have completed by Christmas. Thanks for the build thread!!

Thanks! Don't be fooled, it still requires a lot of hours and prep work (research). You can spread it over the time, but the results are same.
I see you are in Fl, you can chug along any day. Here is IL it was brutal during winter time :)

Speaking of FL, we may be a neighbors soon :cool:

[broku518]

ok, I knew this would come at some point...oil leak. I noticed one last night. Couple oil drops in pan/bell housing area.
notes: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?28298-Oil-leak-how-bad-is-this

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/911/27969259598_7347fd4e21_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JBxLrL)

First, I freaked out. I envisioned taking everything apart and spending days working on it :(
Then, started tracing it. I figured to start in highest spot - that would be valve covers. And yes, I felt some oil there! Called Mike F. got the proper bolts torque and torque them. While doing this I noticed more oil seeping. For now I will monitor and keep my fingers crossed.

[broku518]

It is so nice outside, I don't want to work on this car. I want to drive more :)
about 225 miles so far.
-valve cover is leaking,
-fan heat sensor is leaking (tiny)
-the car feels very stiff and solid. As I keep finishing various parts, it feels really solid.
-no missing parts.
-some work shoes are bit wide :)

Getting there, working on rear splash guards.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/948/41258946414_55dd5a96e6_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25RUTk5)
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Boys helped me to align the hood, it is pain to do from outside. They are the right size
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I did the spindle mod. Boy, this was pain. I messed up the first, but it worked out well. Used a bit of oil to lube the spindle thread. Some are very rough to turn.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/961/41258946724_eee9d575c6_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25RUTqq)

[Straversi]

That's cheating! Those little dudes are awesome helpers. Could have saved my back a number of times with half sized labor. Priceless photos.
-Steve

[broku518]

That's cheating! Those little dudes are awesome helpers. Could have saved my back a number of times with half sized labor. Priceless photos.
-Steve

Right?! I would twist and turn, they fit right in. :)
They asked to be paid 5 bucks, I figured it was a good deal :cool:

[Yama-Bro]

They asked to be paid 5 bucks, I figured it was a good deal :cool:

That's hilarious.:rolleyes: kids...

[David Hodgkins]

Those kid pics are priceless! You'll be happy you took those.

Car is looking GOOD! Wait until you drive one of the youngin's to school. They will be royalty for the day!

:)

[broku518]

Today is the day. I am ready to submit the pictures and paperwork.
Fingers crossed

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A HUGE thanks to this community!!! You folks are awesome. I wouldn't be able to get to this point without your help!

Thanks,
Broku518

[Fixit]

Should be a breeze compared to getting a carry permit in IL!!

[Scubasommer]

Martin
You need to rent those boys out!

Jimmy

[broku518]

Well, well, well- it looks like we may be moving someplace warmer, Florida!
I had to call the IL office and withdraw my application. Will have to finish it down there :cool:

[KenWilkinson]

There's a bunch of guys here in Florida, Where exactly are you coming down to?

[broku518]

There's a bunch of guys here in Florida, Where exactly are you coming down to?

Jupiter

[Jeff Kleiner]

I have 2 wonderful long time Factory Five friends in Jupiter; John Phillips and Richard Bailey. Pretty much rank #1 and #2 on the list of the world's greatest guys :) Both have owned & built a number of FFRs dating back to the very beginning (I always used to tell Dave Smith that John was responsible for selling more of his cars than anyone who didn't draw a paycheck from FFR). I'll hook you guys up when you get there. Also my wife and her horses spend every winter just about 15 miles north in Stuart and I visit frequently so we'll for sure make it a point to get together when I'm there.

Best of luck to you and your boys on this new adventure!

Jeff

[broku518]

I have 2 wonderful long time Factory Five friends in Jupiter; John Phillips and Richard Bailey. Pretty much rank #1 and #2 on the list of the world's greatest guys :) Both have owned & built a number of FFRs dating back to the very beginning (I always used to tell Dave Smith that John was responsible for selling more of his cars than anyone who didn't draw a paycheck from FFR). I'll hook you guys up when you get there. Also my wife and her horses spend every winter just about 15 miles north in Stuart and I visit frequently so we'll for sure make it a point to get together when I'm there.

Best of luck to you and your boys on this new adventure!

Jeff

Wow, thanks Jeff! I don't know anyone down there, but now I know couple people :)
I will sure keep in touch.

Thanks,
Martin

[JOE A]

I'm building a 65 Coupe and live in Tequesta, a small village just north of Jupiter. My car is at Whitby's in North Carolina awaiting paint. Contact me when you get settled in.

[broku518]

It's done! The officer came this morning, took couple pictures and drilled/riveted VIN plate in my PS box.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?28398-4-pics-and-paperwork-)-Title-and-registration-in-IL-PASS!!

I was expecting that we would do some functional checking, lights, horn, safety...nope.

(it was raining and I ordered a hand windshield wiper from Amazon. Didn't even ask if I have one. I guess IL doesn't require one.)

Car is registered as 1965.

Now waiting 7-10 days to get the title and plates.

[q4stix]

Congrats! That's awesome it was that easy and you were able to get it done before the move

[cv2065]

Welcome to Florida. Jupiter is a nice place. Quiet and affordable. Maybe all us Florida guys will hook up sometime in the future on a cruise of some type.

[mcwho]

Hello there!

I am a widowed father of 3 boys, ages 3, 5 and 7 years old. My wife passed away last year from cervical cancer. I am hoping to build this car with my boys, coworkers and friend along the way. I would love to have my wife here, but can see now, life is short. No more dreaming about things, start living and doing!

I always wanted to have a sports car of some sort. I have been pretty frugal in my life and just dreamt about building a Cobra. This year I started looking at some older cars, like Fiat 124, MGM midget or Porsche 911. But then I realized and asked myself a question - "What car would really make you tickle?" I would be Shelby Cobra 1965 for sure!
So I dropped plans on purchasing anything else. Did some research and placed an order with Factory Five this month. Also called Mike Forte and placed an order there.
I really like this forum with many helpful hint and tips. Thanks!

Here is what I am getting:
MK4 Complete kit
17"/front 9"/back 10.5" wheels
+Appearance Package FREE

from Mike Forte:
SB FORD DART 347 TURNKEY ENGINE PACKAGE carburated
manual TKO600
3.55 8.8 REAREND
REAR DISC 11.65" KIT

I already spend some time and build the body buck. I am also talking to Al_C user and going visit his place this weekend. Very excited!

So this is for now.....more to come.

Thanks,
Martin

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I edited your title.

Ray

Sorry to hear about your loss, I have been away from this forum since last sept cause of a house purchase. Getting back to it now. Where in Florida are you going to be. I am in a small town called DeBary, halfway between Orlando, an Daytona Beach.

[broku518]

88084

So my plates showed up in the mail today, yeah!!! I am legal now :)

I did some totally unnecessary trips to random place, like get groceries and gas.

Wonderful drive and I can't wipe the smile off my face! :)

[Scubasommer]

Congratulations!!!

[Jeff Kleiner]

Wow! Looks like you were so excited you parked the car on the ceiling :)

Congrats Martin!

Jeff

[broku518]

Congratulations!!!

Thanks Jimmy! Hope everything is well with you and your build will be fun.

[broku518]

Wow! Looks like you were so excited you parked the car on the ceiling :)

Congrats Martin!

Jeff

Thanks Jeff! I still have couple cosmetic things to do...and then it is all yours! :) To work your magic!

[broku518]

Approaching 500mile mark. So far so good! Car is steady, fast, and loud :)

Couple things I learned the last couple of weeks:
- It isn't easy to order Starbucks
- Very thankful that I did the trunk mod. I can do Costco/groceries trips!
- I find every excuse to drive the car.
- This isn't commuter car, but I am still in denial :)
- I may have ~410HP, but I am only using ~120HP
- Make sure to lock the door while driving, the DO open wide!
- The sun screen and hat is a must!
- Manual steering is a work out while parking.
- I haven't done any more work on the car.

Boys did some custom paint job and hand prints!
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1790/42610035494_80d2078916_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27Viz3o)


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[JoeAIII]

Ive got loud exhaust on my truck, and my solution to #1 is I pull up to the window and shut it down. Only way I can order or pay tolls without shouting or the person in the window choking on fumes.

[Flyguy561]

I don't know if you are down south yet but welcome to Jupiter! Its a great place to live and raise children. Let me know when you get down this way and i can show you some nice places for a ride west of town, we have 12 months of good driving weather too. Quite a few cobras around here.
Terry

[broku518]

I don't know if you are down south yet but welcome to Jupiter! Its a great place to live and raise children. Let me know when you get down this way and i can show you some nice places for a ride west of town, we have 12 months of good driving weather too. Quite a few cobras around here.
Terry

Hi Terry,
I am still in Illinois, moving out in 3 or 4 weeks.

[Yama-Bro]

Love the "paint job"!

[broku518]

Hello!

Finally here in Jupiter! What a place, really nice place and wonderful folks around here, blessed.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1896/30372598868_7e45577082_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NgVvtJ)

[broku518]

Doing some much needed improvements. This trunk mod is pretty slick, I was afraid I may have to cut the rod and have a less height, but didn't have to. It was pain to add the retaining pin without dropping the gas tank, but couple curse words and it was right in there.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/44991110034_57b8543f25_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bxHcxG)20181103_180539 (https://flic.kr/p/2bxHcxG)

The way is closes it appears like it wouldn't go under, but with a small nudge it is right there!
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done, this is how it looks when trunk is closed. Done!
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[broku518]

Also worked on my safety gear, got this 1.4lb Halotron canister. I tried couple location, but found this to be the most practical, easy to reach and stable.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1948/45665085082_7db9de7824_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2czguR9)20181104_104410 (https://flic.kr/p/2czguR9)

[broku518]

My first 1/4 mile run, great experience, room for improvement. Practice makes it better, have fun!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?29906-Prepping-for-my-first-1-4-mile-run-DID-IT!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4893/45954922921_41f8818cfd_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2d1SZxg)

[broku518]

PBIR Track Night.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?31096-First-track-night-rodeo!-UPDATE&p=354779#post354779

[broku518]

Hello,

So here I come again. I built my car, and been driving in gel coat for over 2 years. Always planned on having someone else to do the body prep and paint.

Now I am considering doing the body fitment and body work myself. I live in Florida and the summer can be brutal, so this is considered my off season.

Can someone share some existing forum treads please? I would welcome really basis steps and pictures.

Thanks!

[mcwho]

Hello there!

I am a widowed father of 3 boys, ages 3, 5 and 7 years old. My wife passed away last year from cervical cancer. I am hoping to build this car with my boys, coworkers and friend along the way. I would love to have my wife here, but can see now, life is short. No more dreaming about things, start living and doing!

I always wanted to have a sports car of some sort. I have been pretty frugal in my life and just dreamt about building a Cobra. This year I started looking at some older cars, like Fiat 124, MGM midget or Porsche 911. But then I realized and asked myself a question - "What car would really make you tickle?" I would be Shelby Cobra 1965 for sure!
So I dropped plans on purchasing anything else. Did some research and placed an order with Factory Five this month. Also called Mike Forte and placed an order there.
I really like this forum with many helpful hint and tips. Thanks!

Here is what I am getting:
MK4 Complete kit
17"/front 9"/back 10.5" wheels
+Appearance Package FREE

from Mike Forte:
SB FORD DART 347 TURNKEY ENGINE PACKAGE carburated
manual TKO600
3.55 8.8 REAREND
REAR DISC 11.65" KIT

I already spend some time and build the body buck. I am also talking to Al_C user and going visit his place this weekend. Very excited!

So this is for now.....more to come.

Thanks,
Martin

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I edited your title.

Ray

Martin, would be glad to kick around some ideas w you. My son did the bodywork a d paint. We both built it. Took me 8 years, life is short.

I am in debary fl

Bob

[broku518]

Started taking the parting lines down. I went bit deep as I noticed a lot of imperfections and bubbles. The worst are was around the gas cap.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49886775561_f89c18243c_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2j1jLm2)20200512_101041 (https://flic.kr/p/2j1jLm2)

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[broku518]

Here is to more sanding. One thing I am learning is that nothing is straight on this car. And when something feels and looks right, it is the right way.
I am glad that Jeff K. is just a phone call away and willing to help out and give advice.

I worked on trunk and it turned out pretty good. I used a 1/4" tape and it took me about 3 or 4 times to get it in right shape. After that it was just more sanding and blocking. I think the hardest part was to attach the trunk to brackets !!! I got it pretty close, but it can get better, so much pain in a butt :)

I do realize this will take time and I can't cut any corners as the body work is the most important part in paint job. I don't plan on painting it myself, I have couple painter leads and plan.
All I am doing is the best job I can. I won't hold my painter liable for any bodywork mistakes.

The good thing is, the more I spend sanding and fitting the panels, the more confident I feel about doing this work. (also, having the right tools helps, big air compressor, air sander, air saw, air grinder)


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[broku518]

Here is tool corner.

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Here I was working on the hood. Same process, taping with 1/4 inch tape and sanding in stages, took 3 or 4 times again to get the gaps right. The hood looks recessed, but that is due to missing rubber seal.

Again, this is challenging, but very rewarding when I see the gaps are even and it looks right. (in pictures the hood is just loosely sitting there now. I had to move it so many times, so I just took this picture today)

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[Al_C]

You're making great progress! Good for you!

[miller7448]

Great to see someone else crazy enough to do the body work themselves. Maybe based on inexperience I tended to use the Rage Gold hardner up before reaching the end of the gallon. You can order the harder online for 10 bucks or so. I think I went on the high side because one time early on I was on the low side and even after 12 hours of cure it tended to gum the sandpaper. Used 2 gallons but I'm sure more than a gallon was sanded off.

[broku518]

You're making great progress! Good for you!

Thanks! BTW Your car looks great!!! Enjoy :)

[broku518]

Great to see someone else crazy enough to do the body work themselves. Maybe based on inexperience I tended to use the Rage Gold hardner up before reaching the end of the gallon. You can order the harder online for 10 bucks or so. I think I went on the high side because one time early on I was on the low side and even after 12 hours of cure it tended to gum the sandpaper. Used 2 gallons but I'm sure more than a gallon was sanded off.

Yes! I was overwhelmed how much work that is. Right now I am focusing on one task at a time and it is more manageable. It will take some time to get this right, but I am patient and sanding along :)

I am still just sanding, Rage Gold is next. One thing I am learning I need to rely on my fingers a lot, how things feel and flow. If it feels right it is likely good.

[miller7448]

In one of your pictures it looks like you went all the through the fiberglass on the rear of the passenger side door. Assuming the horizontal lines are some type of internal channels. Had a similar high spot but I chose to build up around it. Curious what the experienced guys have done in this type of situation.

[broku518]

In one of your pictures it looks like you went all the through the fiberglass on the rear of the passenger side door. Assuming the horizontal lines are some type of internal channels. Had a similar high spot but I chose to build up around it. Curious what the experienced guys have done in this type of situation.


Oh no! That is a sticker my boys put there. I haven't started working on doors.

[broku518]

I guess we are done, well at least for now! ;)

I outsourced the body work and paint to a body/paint shop. It saved me my sanity! Glad I DID.

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[Papa]

Great picture! The boys are looking so "cool". Paint looks great.

Dave

[GoDadGo]

Great picture! The boys are looking so "Cool". Paint looks great.

Dave

More Like: "Yep, We're Bad!"

These boys are going to be 100% Motorhead Dudes for the of their lives!

PS:..Nothing wrong with knowing when to call in professional help when you reach your skill limits.
.......Congratulations On This Major Milestone!

[RJD]

Congratulations!

[Al_C]

Love the poses! Car (and the boys) look great. I'm guessing that relocating to Florida was a good move for all of you!