'33 Pickup?!? NO! '35 Hot Rod Truck!

[David Hodgkins]

Saw this linked from the other forum. It came from a HotRod article. Is this the new 33 PICKUP?!?

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70805&d=1500435852

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/sneak-peek-27-project-cars-2017/

The article says this will be at SEMA this year. It has a STEEL BED!

:)

[flynntuna]

Yikes! This would be my first choice for a build. I'm barely half way through my 818. How do I convince the boss I "need" this truck?

[ursa5000]

Did FFR add a bit more room in the frame and firewall for a Coyote plus A/C and a heater?

Da Bear

[myjones]

Saw this linked from the other forum. It came from a HotRod article. Is this the new 33 PICKUP?!?

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70805&d=1500435852

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/sneak-peek-27-project-cars-2017/

The article says this will be at SEMA this year. It has a STEEL BED!

:)
WOO FFen HOO

That looks like the loft where they do the fiberglass at FF and it's the 33 frame. Dave said he might do a truck and the 33 needed a refresh soon.
I'm already registered for SEMA so it will be fun to see this in person along with the rest of the body parts that were still in design for the steel
33 coupe they had there last year. I like the grille shell design better too.
Dale

[GoDadGo]

I'm Smelling A Corvette Donor Build In The Distant Future!

https://youtu.be/svZX2BMSDEs

Baby Go-Dad Just Needs To Get Though College Like His Two Big Sisters First!

[wallace18]

Pretty cool!

[erlihemi]

WOO FFen HOO

That looks like the loft where they do the fiberglass at FF and it's the 33 frame. Dave said he might do a truck and the 33 needed a refresh soon.
I'm already registered for SEMA so it will be fun to see this in person along with the rest of the body parts that were still in design for the steel
33 coupe they had there last year. I like the grille shell design better too.
Dale

Still needs a roll cage, but the gas tank should be easier to deal with...:) no restriction on the rear meat, back half tubing must have some changes?

[David Hodgkins]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70805&d=1500435852

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70822&d=1500481997

I grabbed and flipped an image from factoryfive.com.

Looks like the door length is roughly the same on top... But the overall legroom is reduced or the same?

[Arrowhead]

I grabbed and flipped an image from factoryfive.com.

Looks like the door length is roughly the same on top... But the overall legroom is reduced or the same?

From what I was told at the open house, the cab is shorter but taller so by sitting up higher you'll still have good leg room.

[KDubU]

Like! Been looking at an old pickup for a while. I guess I will wait a bit longer.

[Svtfreak]

Looks to me like the door is just cut straight down and not slightly angled forward. The front body line is still angled. If so, legroom would be the same once in it but you'd have less opening down there than current shape.

[David Hodgkins]

From what I was told at the open house, the cab is shorter but taller so by sitting up higher you'll still have good leg room.

Wait. You mean a FFR where I DON'T sit on the floor??! Well now all of a sudden I'm liking the taller roofline!

:)

[Rodster]

YAY! Dave listened to me when I asked for a pickup something like 5 yrs ago!

[2FAST4U]

If the do it, I'm in

[flynntuna]

It does look like there's a big change in the frame. Looks like the passenger space was shortened to make the the truck look right. Making a more upright seating position that was mentioned nessasary .

[Arrowhead]

I think it would be tough to keep the tall perimeter frame too. Combine that with the shorter door it will make getting in and out a bit tight. Wonder where the gas tank will go? Maybe low and behind the axle like the roadster?

[Yama-Bro]

This is sweet! I still wish they made a version of the hot rod with a '32 front end.

[MPTech]

Bench seat?

Wasn't the '33 Pickup more vertical? more like a '32 Coupe?

[FFinisher]

Bench seat?

Wasn't the '33 Pickup more vertical? more like a '32 Coupe?

Yep, as were the 34's, this will be more '35 .... ish.....

[myjones]

Still needs a roll cage, but the gas tank should be easier to deal with...:) no restriction on the rear meat, back half tubing must have some changes?

It likely has the 8.8 IRS since that's where the FF builds are moving to. The roll cage could have decent headroom in this one and the down bars coming out
through the back of that cab and into the bed just adds to the look IMO. The doors wrap all the way around the glass so it should seal up nicely as far as
wind noise etc. The way the cab ends looking forward is shaped just like the new steel 33 coupe so I'm thinking it uses the same chin pieces they are stamping
now. That gives me hope that the new hood and grille shell will become standard on the coupe as well. Can't wait to see it in person at SEMA this year.
Dale

[myjones]

I'm Smelling A Corvette Donor Build In The Distant Future!

https://youtu.be/svZX2BMSDEs

Baby Go-Dad Just Needs To Get Though College Like His Two Big Sisters First!

GDG
A vette donor would be perfect for the truck if you can stand a chevy powerplant :rolleyes:. The 33 coupe Glenn did had a C5/6? drivetrain.
The torque tube had to be shortened but I don't recall by how much. Anyone have Glenn Sommers contact still ?

The truck WB is 7" longer than the FF coupe Glenn used so it may be a better fit now. The plus was the torque tube is much smaller than a
bellhousing so you gain a lot of footroom/pedal box width. On the coupe, the down side was the transaxle put the TC right at the drivers
elbow so HEAT and space was an issue at the back of the pass box instead of the front. The truck cab rear wall is actually 4" forward on
the chassis so the TC should be outside of the passenger compartment if it works out the way I think it would. Go get em Dad.
Dale
7L Hemi 33< Not a little baby Hemi like that other old fart is using :eek:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[myjones]

Still needs a roll cage, but the gas tank should be easier to deal with...:) no restriction on the rear meat, back half tubing must have some changes?

The gas tank is moved all the way back and yes the back half tubing is different. At this point it's a longer 3 link with the springs moved forward of the axle.
A roll cage should be much easier because of all the new headroom. Rear meat has lots of room, maybe even enough for a BIG Hemi (cough) without a carb .
Seeing the truck this week really got me pumped and thinking about building another FF when the Hemi coupe is done.
Dale

[myjones]

Wonder where the gas tank will go? Maybe low and behind the axle like the roadster?

DING
Winner winner chicken dinner
Dale

[flynntuna]

The gas tank is moved all the way back and yes the back half tubing is different. At this point it's a longer 4 link with the springs moved forward of the axle.
A roll cage should be much easier because of all the new headroom. Rear meat has lots of room, maybe even enough for a BIG Hemi (cough) without a carb .
Seeing the truck this week really got me pumped and thinking about building another FF when the Hemi coupe is done.
Dale

So at this point it uses an 8.8 axle?

[David Hodgkins]

The gas tank is moved all the way back and yes the back half tubing is different. At this point it's a longer 4 link with the springs moved forward of the axle.
A roll cage should be much easier because of all the new headroom. Rear meat has lots of room, maybe even enough for a BIG Hemi (cough) without a carb .
Seeing the truck this week really got me pumped and thinking about building another FF when the Hemi coupe is done.
Dale

PICS?!?!

Longer wheelbase is a good thing, IMO. I'm sure other rear end options will be engineered as well. This is an exciting development!!

:)

[flynntuna]

Will it come only as a coupe or will a roadster version be avail. with a hardtop option?

[myjones]

So at this point it uses an 8.8 axle?

Yes it does,
but "at this point" is a good thing to remember because "it will evolve a bit from the beta to production if it moves to that"

The lower control arms are 7" longer than the coupe version and they have spring perches just in front of the axle housing.
I hope it will eventually have an IRS option but the new rear stub on the chassis is mostly to carry the truck bed and protect
and support the rear mounted fuel tank. That rear stub design would have to be changed a bit to be able to mount the IRS.
Dale

[myjones]

PICS?!?!
Longer wheelbase is a good thing, IMO. I'm sure other rear end options will be engineered as well. This is an exciting development!!
:)

David
I felt very fortunate to be at FF at the right time to see this concept and be allowed into the skunkworks area.
Jim S. was very patient with all my questions and spent a lot of time showing me what changes were needed to
make the 33 chassis work with the truck body. I didn't take any pictures and I didn't even ask because of SEMA.

After I returned home I sent a thanks to Jim for his time and asked if there was anything that could be shared
in advance or if they wanted to keep it all secret until the reveal. Jim said that feedback is what helps move
a concept forward so starting a buzz now is fine with him.

One other tidbit and one correction;
The truck doors will be hinged at the front so the hinge mount structure will move to that location on the chassis.

I mentioned a 4 link prior but IIRC the truck is currently a 3 link with a panhard <> I'm not 100% on that but
I do recall the extra length there was making the live axle swing in a bit different arc and that changed the
anti dive anti squat forces a bit.
Dale

[myjones]

Will it come only as a coupe or will a roadster version be avail. with a hardtop option?
FT;
This is where known facts and my impressions and opinion need to be carefully parsed because I don't
want to interfere with their product development in any negative way.

We didn't talk about kit options because it's still too much in flux to say where it will all evolve to,
and is the kind of thing that will be sorted out later IF/When it gets the green light for production.

What I saw was a few truck cab bodies that all looked like the same mold.
The doors do have a full frame around the window glass IIRC.
We did talk about a roll cage for the truck but it was still just a twinkle in Jim's eye at this point
so it will be fun to see how he approaches that when the truck gets to SEMA.

A hot rod truck with a soft top would be a kickass option if it all moves forward.
Dale

[erlihemi]

The gas tank is moved all the way back and yes the back half tubing is different. At this point it's a longer 3 link with the springs moved forward of the axle.
A roll cage should be much easier because of all the new headroom. Rear meat has lots of room, maybe even enough for a BIG Hemi (cough) without a carb .
Seeing the truck this week really got me pumped and thinking about building another FF when the Hemi coupe is done.
Dale
By bigger HEMI you must mean John Kaase heads on a real ford? Needs the rack moved forward a little for the big blocks... I hope the back half is robust enough for a trailer hitch. I would consider a Vicki or Panel version. Changing the doors could lead to a MKIIHR. I guess I could always convert the tailgate to FARGO and put Dodge Fenders on it. Narrowed dually rear maybe. hmmm hope they do this in steel also. With taller cab the blower doesn't affect visibility as much. Maybe we'll see a 4BT cummins in an FFR? Of course I would go with a 3-53T Detroit just to make noise.

[Cobradavid]

I've been dreaming about a 33 HR build "some day." This new model is exactly what I want: a small truck with great body styling and FF design. Plus, I get to build it! I'm looking forward to hearing about pricing and availability.

David

[myjones]

.. I hope the back half is robust enough for a trailer hitch. .

Jim and I actually discussed that this week. The new rear clip surrounds the fuel tank but the bigger tube is at the top across the back
and the lower tube is much smaller. We talked about how to add a couple diag braces to the center bottom so a hitch could be added.

Dually meat on the truck would be very cool. The body is all glass except for the inside of the bed, that will be metal on the concept truck
but it will still evolve some from the beta unit. The rack needs flipped to front steer so there is room for other big blocks to fit.
At this point IIRC it won't have fenders so tire choices will be wide open.

I will keep pushing for the panel vice the Vicky because that would allow a very robust 6 point cage without hurting useable space.
AND it fits the more than 2 passengers that customers have been begging Dave to do for years.
Dale

[Cobradavid]

...After I returned home I sent a thanks to Jim for his time and asked if there was anything that could be shared
in advance or if they wanted to keep it all secret until the reveal. Jim said that feedback is what helps move
a concept forward so starting a buzz now is fine with him...

If Jim is listening, tell him to make sure there's a full fenders/running boards option. The dream truck in my brain has fenders (and period-correct bumpers).

David

[flynntuna]

Since we're making suggestions, the ability to "bag" it. Love to be able to adjust ride height.

[myjones]

If Jim is listening, tell him to make sure there's a full fenders/running boards option. The dream truck in my brain has fenders (and period-correct bumpers). David

David
I am in that camp too. Those options would be a second phase in my mind once the basic kit and body is in production.

I know he has a lot to do before SEMA so I don't know if he is reading this now or will follow up after the show to add these comments to the feedback.

How would you guys feel about a rollbar and down bars behind the cab vs the hoop in the cab and only the downbars showing in the bed.
I say this because the back of the cab is 4" forward of where the coupe roll bar normally lands.
Dale

[David Hodgkins]

GDG
../The truck cab rear wall is actually 4" forward on
the chassis so the TC should be outside of the passenger compartment if it works out the way I think it would. ../

Does this mean the cab has lost 4" of legroom? I realize you can sit higher but 4" is a lot to me...

:)

[erlihemi]

Dually meat on the truck would be very cool. ... The rack needs flipped to front steer so there is room for other big blocks to fit.
At this point IIRC it won't have fenders so tire choices will be wide open.

I will keep pushing for the panel vice the Vicky because that would allow a very robust 6 point cage without hurting useable space.
AND it fits the more than 2 passengers that customers have been begging Dave to do for years.
Dale
More than 2 passengers?!!? I may have to go from a 3-53T to a 3-71T Jimmy for that option...

Moving the rack forward and "baggin" the suspension would go along with trailer hitches and Big Blocks. This one is a little out of FFR's box.

[myjones]

Does this mean the cab has lost 4" of legroom? I realize you can sit higher but 4" is a lot to me...
:)

David;
The cab is 4" shorter front to back but the seating height will be much higher so Jim says there is still more legroom and headroom.
It wasn't really ready to sit in yet but in 6 weeks you can do that at SEMA. Are you going this year ?
Dale

[myjones]

More than 2 passengers?!!? I may have to go from a 3-53T to a 3-71T Jimmy for that option...
Moving the rack forward and "baggin" the suspension would go along with trailer hitches and Big Blocks. This one is a little out of FFR's box.

Brian
I hope that FF throws away the box on the next project, and whether it's 33 based or not it needs to haul more than 2 people.
In the interim the HR truck is a very cool peek out of the box for now. I think the final version will have a lot more changes to
the 33 chassis when design and fabrication time is not an issue.

I told Jim about your project with the early Hemi and slightly wider Mopar front end and that it would give more width up front.

I'm not sure how involved it would be to change to front steer but that would change a lot of space issues for motor size and
hopefully move the bellhousing forward enough to gain footroom with any engine combo.

I would be surprised to see anything come from FF with bags so that part may fall on the buyer to do, but the number of
owners with mad fabrication skills is growing every day.

A trailer hitch on a hot rod ? :rolleyes: What kind of a redneck would do such a thing.
Dale

[erlihemi]

Brian
I hope that FF throws away the box on the next project, and whether it's 33 based or not it needs to haul more than 2 people.
In the interim the HR truck is a very cool peek out of the box for now. I think the final version will have a lot more changes to
the 33 chassis when design and fabrication time is not an issue.

I told Jim about your project with the early Hemi and slightly wider Mopar front end and that it would give more width up front.

I'm not sure how involved it would be to change to front steer but that would change a lot of space issues for motor size and
hopefully move the bellhousing forward enough to gain footroom with any engine combo.

I would be surprised to see anything come from FF with bags so that part may fall on the buyer to do, but the number of
owners with mad fabrication skills is growing every day.

A trailer hitch on a hot rod ? :rolleyes: What kind of a redneck would do such a thing.
Dale
You're going to make me go measure the 460 BBF aren't you! I briefly looked at relocating the rack early in my project when I was considering a blown stroker 392. Sobered up on Sunday and scratched that idea. But, there is 1" to gain by flipping the rack brace forward of the tube behind the coil overs. It requires an angle cut above the lower control arm bushings so you can put the mount forward, flip it, and weld it back in. Something NAZ would do in less than 1/2 hour minus the paint drying. Not sure how it would affect geometry to the spindle, Ackerman, and bump steer, but, once you go BBF I doubt you need more than 4 degrees caster, so maybe the math works out. Next problem is the top of the Ford bellhousing hitting the firewall tubing. This is where my 130 tooth Mopar bell won the tunnel race. I do have a lot of set back and found foot room with shorter clutch fork mod. keeps the left quad in shape.
I would like to see a little more robust bracketry in the front and lose that FFR radiator mount attached to the upper control arm. Getting a wider, taller radiator and bumper would go along with the truck theme.
No trailer Hitch on a truck is like no turbo on an 818!! Something's gotta pull the R chassis!

[myjones]

You're going to make me go measure the 460 BBF aren't you! I briefly looked at relocating the rack early in my project when I was considering a blown stroker 392. Sobered up on Sunday and scratched that idea. But, there is 1" to gain by flipping the rack brace forward of the tube behind the coil overs. It requires an angle cut above the lower control arm bushings so you can put the mount forward, flip it, and weld it back in. Something NAZ would do in less than 1/2 hour minus the paint drying. Not sure how it would affect geometry to the spindle, Ackerman, and bump steer, but, once you go BBF I doubt you need more than 4 degrees caster, so maybe the math works out. Next problem is the top of the Ford bellhousing hitting the firewall tubing. This is where my 130 tooth Mopar bell won the tunnel race. I do have a lot of set back and found foot room with shorter clutch fork mod. keeps the left quad in shape.
I would like to see a little more robust bracketry in the front and lose that FFR radiator mount attached to the upper control arm. Getting a wider, taller radiator and bumper would go along with the truck theme.
No trailer Hitch on a truck is like no turbo on an 818!! Something's gotta pull the R chassis!

Brian;
I'm not that familiar with the FF Cobra replica line but IIRC they are front steer and I think all the geometry is dialed in better from years of
improvements on that kit. Jim kept everything very tight and thus very lightweight on the original 33 design so that limited a lot of options.

Battery size and location on the truck chassis was also something we discussed on my visit and something feedback was already suggesting.

I would love to see a MKII design of the 33 chassis that was opened up a bit in the front allowing front steer and more engine room including
further forward engine placement options. In the past we have also talked about more round tubes with bends vs sq tubes with more welds etc.

The Plymouth wider grille and the trucks more straight up style grille are both steps in the more space is better kit where options and comfort trump weight.
Changing the rack location and the birdcage the coil overs fit in would be the next 2 logical steps in that direction. I'm not a Chevy guy nor a hater of any
marque but after seeing Glens vette donor coupe and the longer 33 chassis they are just meant for each other. I may push Jim and Dave to think about all
they learned from the GTM on the Chevy stuff and offer that scenario on the final truck design. LS motors, torque tubes, transaxles and vette suspension and
brakes are all well sorted out components so why not use them here.

As far as the no trailer hitch comment the 33 is so short of trunk space that it needs one too. I did hide mine behind the license plate but it's on there.
Would you really choose the truck over a sedan delivery if both were offered?
Dale

[erlihemi]

I would go sedan delivery only due to my personal preference in body styles. Wife said she liked the pickup so I'm right on track as usual. In reality I would be more interested in changing the Hotrod to a sanctioning body friendly cage with a slightly different frame arrangement in the front. The engine must sit back and weight transfer must bias to the rear on acceleration and front on braking. Truck hot rods don't really excite me. I have a 58 town panel to build, and a 59 D200 to restore for a tow vehicle. If someone asked me to build a hot rod pickup I would, but, my next fiberglass body is more likely to be a Willy's pro street or 53 Studebaker. The chevy option makes a lot of sense if you recall the old powerglide in the back concept. Hard to beat the options available in the Bow Tie World. But let's not forget the Flatheads, nailheads, and parrot heads in the process. Once you go vette chassis you just limited options and drove cost out of reach for some. If I want to put a straight six and stick 3 speed in it I want a stripped base kit. Lose all the paraphernalia we've been throwing out anyway and get the kit price down.
What I really want is a common universal tube chassis that performs and allows multiple body selections. The Hotrod is close on that criteria, just needs a little tweeking. Try a 37-40 coupe for example.

[flynntuna]

Liking the look of full fenders.:p

[myjones]

Liking the look of full fenders.:p

Me too, but the headlights are kinda small. ;)
Dale

[erlihemi]

A reminder that chassis work is as important as paint... And get back on topic!! The hood ornament isn't on the grille.

[myjones]

A reminder that chassis work is as important as paint... And get back on topic!! The hood ornament isn't on the grille.

Give us some inspiration and post pictures of the 58 and 59 trucks.

[erlihemi]

7358473585
Found some old scans without Hood ornaments...

[myjones]

7358473585
Found some old scans without Hood ornaments...

That's what I like about hotrods now compared to the past. Nothing is out of bounds and anything is worthy
of a full restoration. I really thought IF FF ever made a truck it would be a truggy. Cool pics.
Dale

[Flyguy561]

Count me in, was looking a older pickup for next project but don't want to deal with rust. This could be it!

[Barrel]

Count me in, was looking a older pickup for next project but don't want to deal with rust. This could be it!
Perhaps by the time FFR get this kit up and available you'll be more likely having to deal with arthritis.

[TxMike64]

Perhaps by the time FFR get this kit up and available you'll be more likely having to deal with arthritis.

Ha! Made me laugh out loud at work!

[AJT '33]

Hey David, I was at FFR to pick up my 33 and yes there is truth to this, saw the near complete version of the pickup while there and they told me it would be ready and revealed at the upcoming SEMA. Could not take pictures however I can tell you it will look spectacular!

[David Hodgkins]

Thanks for the update!

Was the truck painted, or still under construction? Any other details? I still haven't seen any other pics. I suppose a week or so before SEMA they will release a couple of spy shots...

SEMA is always an exciting time of year @ FFR!

:)

[myjones]

Thanks for the update!

Was the truck painted, or still under construction? Any other details? I still haven't seen any other pics. I suppose a week or so before SEMA they will release a couple of spy shots...

SEMA is always an exciting time of year @ FFR!

:)

I'm betting it's still in Gelcoat at SEMA
DB

[AJT '33]

Thanks for the update!

Was the truck painted, or still under construction? Any other details? I still haven't seen any other pics. I suppose a week or so before SEMA they will release a couple of spy shots...

SEMA is always an exciting time of year @ FFR!

:)

Hey David,

It was not in paint however it was going off to paint yesterday. Saw the motor and transmission and it was painted (like the color, very traditional for a truck), my understanding is that the truck will match the paint color of the engine. Don't want to be a spoiler but it will have a "classic" truck hot rod color (they ask I don't say what color). The base frame is the same with modifications to allow for the bed and relocation of the fuel cell. The lines are clean and after I finish this one I will seriously be looking hard at this as a second build! Don't expect to haul anything in the bed as it is shallow, but that's fine with me.

[Motorsicklemike]

Absolutely love the 33 Pick Up concept....hope they do it :)

[Ray]

I'm betting it's still in Gelcoat at SEMA
DB

I've NEVER seen anything from FFR still in gel coat. Even the "cut-away" Roadster is fully painted. I'll be there on Oct-31st and the FFR booth is always my first stop.

Ray

[flynntuna]

Lots of pictures please :D

[Motorsicklemike]

Lots of pictures please :D

I Absolutely agree, need lots of pictures from those lucky enough to go to SEMA :)

[Mick_d]

Looks fantastic! BUt I'd rather have a Sedan Delivery or even just a Sedan version of the 33. I need to be able to move the seat baaaaaack.

[David Hodgkins]

JUST sent out via email:

"For the past year and a half, we've been working on an all-steel body for the '33 Hot Rod AND we've been secretly working on a pick-up truck version! My original plan was to introduce the steel body and then follow it up with the pick-up truck. Unfortunately, the steel body has been repeatedly delayed (although we are finally close to shipping production units more than 6 months late!), and now it looks like the pick-up truck will arrive about the same time.

The crew is busy building the first truck to be introduced at this year's SEMA Show. If you can't make the show, we will have full details, photos, and specs on our website on Tuesday, October 31st. Stay tuned!"

:)

[David Hodgkins]

Looks like the 33' pickup chassis in the background of this shot:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74796&d=1507328140

:)

[WIS89]

That engine though...

Very sexy piece of hardware!!

I thought sure we'd see some more teaser pics from Dave in his newsletter. I guess we will have to make do with the couple he shared. I look forward to seeing more details when it is unveiled at SEMA.

Regards,

Steve

[RoadRacer]

JUST sent out via email:

"For the past year and a half, we've been working on an all-steel body for the '33 Hot Rod AND we've been secretly working on a pick-up truck version! My original plan was to introduce the steel body and then follow it up with the pick-up truck. Unfortunately, the steel body has been repeatedly delayed (although we are finally close to shipping production units more than 6 months late!), and now it looks like the pick-up truck will arrive about the same time.

The crew is busy building the first truck to be introduced at this year's SEMA Show. If you can't make the show, we will have full details, photos, and specs on our website on Tuesday, October 31st. Stay tuned!"

:)

Where did you get this email David? I signed up for FFR letter years ago, but the last I got was Sept 20, titled "Three Weeks, 1,500 Miles, and 11.65 @ 115 MPH!". Is there another subscription I should sign up for? I entered my email address again just to be sure, perhaps it got dropped.

[first time builder]

Nice rear bumper.

[flynntuna]

Where did you get this email David? I signed up for FFR letter years ago, but the last I got was Sept 20, titled "Three Weeks, 1,500 Miles, and 11.65 @ 115 MPH!". Is there another subscription I should sign up for? I entered my email address again just to be sure, perhaps it got dropped.

I got the email, it's in the regular news and events newsletter you signup for.

[gpracer15]

Brian
I hope that FF throws away the box on the next project, and whether it's 33 based or not it needs to haul more than 2 people.

A master sedan body with chop top and some original looking fenders and running boards would be awesome

[David Hodgkins]

JUST posted to Facebook:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75138&d=1507652948

"This week the crew is building our very first Hot Rod pick-up truck. The car will debut at SEMA, and we will have full details on our website at the end of this month.

Dave Smith
President"

[q4stix]

That is one very pretty setup!

[CVOBill]

Dave and the crew definitely have my attention. :o

[flynntuna]

JUST posted to Facebook:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75138&d=1507652948

"This week the crew is building our very first Hot Rod pick-up truck. The car will debut at SEMA, and we will have full details on our website at the end of this month.

Dave Smith
President"

I gotta feeling it's more of a treat than trick. :)

[1volfan]

I'm like a fat kid in a candy store-or a woman at the shoe store-as soon as I make my mind up on which car to build, they bring out a fresh hot batch of hot rod truck and I'm right back where I was before I started! I guess I'll get in line and wait to see the finished product, but so far I'm really leanin' towards doin' the truck FIRST! No wait! The roadster first, then the truck! Maybe I'll hit the lottery and buy both at the same time!!

[BluePrintEngines]

I was fortunate enough to be out at factory five yesterday, and working with Tony and the crew on the truck project. It's beautiful, and of course the blueprint engine fired right up ;) Can't wait for you guys to see it at the Sema release. I think I have a new favorite FFR kit!

Johnny M
Director of New Project Development
Johnny@BluePrintEngines.com
www.BluePrintEngines.com

[erlihemi]

The copperhead road song is dancing in my head...
Very interested to see the back half of the frame. Armchair pontification if I were considering another 33 build:eek: IRS desired, but not required. Has to be a sedan delivery or Vicky. Would I put a Willy's nose on this one? I would consider a stripped stage 1 kit and then do something like this.

1) Stretched Willy's panel or chopped Vicky body. Maybe a humpback panel grafted to the pickup cab?.
2) Soft springs and stiff anti roll bars, maybe bags on the rear if a straight axle...
3) Has to be a big block this time, Dale keeps pickin' on my baby Hemi :p
4) Has to have an automatic, A/C, cruise control, and killer sound system
5) Tow Hitch rugged enough to haul #640 cross country
6) 12 way seat and telescoping column so anyone can drive it
7) Back up camera , heads up display,
8) Some crazy mural painted on each side

Hmm I know I can get a stroked 392 in it with a GM overdrive, Would stroked 460 with E40D fit? with Jon Kaase Heads? Powder coated Copper? It would compliment the Desoto Gold theme...

[myjones]

Very interested to see the back half of the frame. IRS desired, but not required. Has to be a sedan delivery or Vicky. Would I put a Willy's nose on this one?
1) Stretched Willy's panel or chopped Vicky body. Maybe a humpback panel grafted to the pickup cab?.
2) Soft springs and stiff anti roll bars, maybe bags on the rear if a straight axle...
3) Has to be a big block this time, Dale keeps pickin' on my baby Hemi :p
4) Has to have an automatic, A/C, cruise control, and killer sound system
5) Tow Hitch rugged enough to haul #640 cross country
6) 12 way seat and telescoping column so anyone can drive it
7) Back up camera , heads up display,
8) Some crazy mural painted on each side
...
My observations and ramblings on the next 33;
The back half of the truck frame was mostly just a cage around the Cobra style gas tank and a few bars to make the bed platform.
The truck cab looks pretty tall in person but I guess you could graft a vista wagon roof behind it for the "hump"
The longer wheelbase and extra weight might soften the ride enough and "bars" are a must for me too.

For the record I like Desoto Gold too.
You pretty much described my choices except for the "humpback" that wasn't something I would have come up with.
Dale

[GoDadGo]

Man, What A Teaser!

Can't wait to see the finished product.

[myjones]

Man, What A Teaser!

Can't wait to see the finished product.

Come join the party at SEMA so you can see it in person in a couple weeks, I'll buy you a barley pop on the FF night.
Dale

[GoDadGo]

Come join the party at SEMA so you can see it in person in a couple weeks, I'll buy you a barley pop on the FF night.
Dale

Would love to be there, but the finances have taken a recent unforeseen hit.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?25909-The-Replacement-Dart-Block-Arrives-Tomorrow!

Hope to be there next year, maybe with the Dark Side Dart MK-4, but that's just a sketchy plan at this point.

Please Hoist One For Me, Okay Hoist Two Instead!

[erlihemi]

The truck cab looks pretty tall in person but I guess you could graft a vista wagon roof behind it for the "hump"
The longer wheelbase and extra weight might soften the ride enough and "bars" are a must for me too.

For the record I like Desoto Gold too.
You pretty much described my choices except for the "humpback" that wasn't something I would have come up with.
Dale[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure about the humpback either and I'm all out of Vista Cruisers. The Willy's thing is getting in my head and I'm not talking Kaiser Jeep either. Maybe just a Willy's pickup vice panel. I cant' find a Willys panel in fiberglass and I wouldn't cut up an original. I can find a willy's pick up in fiberglass though. and I don't like gassers btw. so a fat fender pickup that corners is more attractive than a "tall boy" 33 to me.

[Cobradavid]

JUST posted to Facebook:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75138&d=1507652948

"This week the crew is building our very first Hot Rod pick-up truck. The car will debut at SEMA, and we will have full details on our website at the end of this month.

Dave Smith
President"

I'm liking the satin black chassis with the gold accents and copper engine bits. Really cool!
David

[KW33]

I wonder if the gold control arms are just alodined, or are they painted? Looks very cool with the brown!

[erlihemi]

Alternator needs to match and/or get mounted down low. Copper always seems to look good on vintage builds. A hood ornament to complement the colors would be nice. ;)

[q4stix]

I wonder if the gold control arms are just alodined, or are they painted? Looks very cool with the brown!

My guess would be painted or powder coated. I don't think steel can be treated like aluminum with alodine.

[David Hodgkins]

New pic made public!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75952&d=1509047485

[GoDadGo]

New pic made public!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75952&d=1509047485

David,

1. Please go to SEMA and see how well you fit in the new truck.
2. Then report back to the group on your findings.
3. No Dino Roof Modifications Allowed!

Steve

Man This Teaser Pic Looks Promising!

[RoadRacer]

There was an extra one published in their blog post too.. and interestingly it was titled "'35 pickup" ?!?

75966

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75966&d=1509053837

[ursa5000]

Holy Guacamole, that's one sweet truck ! Nice wheels, too!

[David Hodgkins]

Sorry guys,

I've been told the truck is still under wraps. The image was not to be released, and showed up in a since-edited piece.

Please, if you got it, don't re-post it.

:)

[David Hodgkins]

Sorry guys,

I've been told the truck is still under wraps. The image was not to be released, and showed up in a since-edited piece.

Please, if you got it, don't re-post it.

:)

Turns out that pic is good to go! Sorry for the confusion; was I guess a little over-zealous covering FFR's back. I've asked RoadRacer to re-post the pic(I didn't save it myself!).

Sorry RoadRacer!

:)

[GoDadGo]

There was an extra one published in their blog post too.. and interestingly it was titled "'35 pickup" ?!?

75966

Wow!

[TexasAviator]

I am not real big on the truck as I am on the color and paint scheme of the engine and body. Those colors are amazing and I love copper.

[RF RIDER]

Will there be fenders over the wheels...I am not 100% sure on rules, but I don't think you can have open tires like that. Well not in Canada (someone correct me if I am wrong). Love the truck idea, but I was thinking more of a fat tire then skinny's.

[wallace18]

Will there be fenders over the wheels...I am not 100% sure on rules, but I don't think you can have open tires like that. Well not in Canada (someone correct me if I am wrong). Love the truck idea, but I was thinking more of a fat tire then skinny's.


Fenders , hood and sides will most likely be released when the kit is. This is just a prototype for SEMA. I am sure they will judge interest in the truck and go forward from there. That is my best guess. wink, wink.

[AJT '33]

You are correct in all of the points you made. When I was there to pick up my kit last month Nate told me that there will be a full options package including running boards etc... From the back of the cab is a regular FFR33, however right after the cab is where it changes to allow for a different gas tank location and rear end.

[RoadRacer]

Will there be fenders over the wheels...I am not 100% sure on rules, but I don't think you can have open tires like that. Well not in Canada (someone correct me if I am wrong). Love the truck idea, but I was thinking more of a fat tire then skinny's.

But, yes, there are plenty of states where tires can be exposed legally.. and some where at least you're unlikely to get ticketed. But, there are places where it's a hot item, like window tint. :)

[David Hodgkins]

Shot of the bed released today.

Interesting...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76028&d=1509209860

:)

[wallace18]

Not much depth on the bed.

[myjones]

Not much depth on the bed.

The bed is shallow, Jim and I talked about that when I was at FF awhile back but I don't recall why it is.
The fuel tank is a Cobra style low and clear in the back and it is a live axle so the height isn't related to an IRS cradle yet.
The banana bracket and coil overs are likely the cause at this point but this is the beta version.
Dale

[Bguetter]

There is a SEMA setup video on Factory five’s facebook page that has a short glimpse of the truck.

[KDubU]

Well I am a bit disappointed. Don't get me wrong it does look nice but for some reason I had a slightly different picture of the finished truck. A bit higher up with a deeper bed. I guess I'll just have to get down to FF after SEMA to get a better look. I'm not a copper guy but I do like what they have done.

Edited to add now I know why it looks lower, I had in my mind a wood siding on the rear sides that makes the bed deeper, a al Waltons sort of.

[SilverFox]

Suggestion to FF....if your going to make a Pick Up make sure it's a usable truck bed.
The most sought after request from potential owners is STORAGE so a useable truck bed would be a worthwhile investment.
Maybe raise the suspension a little, it appears as if the rear axle passing thru the bottom of the bed.
If you make it a working bed at least 16" deep with an option for a cover I'll buy it :)
Just my 2 cents.

[Arrowhead]

Yea, the bed does look shallow - but we're a crafty bunch and I'll bet there's a lot of opportunities for creative storage ideas under the bed. In fact, I'd almost rather have a hinged floor and access to weather tight storage compartments.

[Arrowhead]

Here ya go!

[TxMike64]

Here ya go!

Looks like hot rod UPS truck.

Is it my eyes, the camera angle, or is there a ton of camber on the right front?

[Ringo]

I really like it!!! But would want some big wide tires.

[AJT '33]

Its Here!!!!!! https://www.factoryfive.com/hot-rod-truck/

[flynntuna]

It's an automatic! Sacrilege! Love it anyway. So many ways to build on this platform, it's going to be great to see the various ways people build it.

[erlihemi]

It's an automatic! Sacrilege! Love it anyway. So many ways to build on this platform, it's going to be great to see the various ways people build it.

OMG! Bench seat with a Stick has to be an old whiny top loader. Needs floor mount pedals and a foot starter too!! Definitely need to see more of the frame back half. Potential storage under the bed with tail gate access. The kit page lists full fenders and running boards, but I cant see putting the 33 rear fenders on it. No room for the 33" M/T's. I definitely will be looking at potential for a different back half on the body also. Wide Artillery wheels with retro tires might look good along with fat fenders.

Has potential for sure.

[mgh]

So great to see the truck added to the mix of builds, now I'm conflicted.....do the 33 hot rod or the 35 truck. I guess do the 33 first then do the 35, sounds like a plan.

Great job FFR

[erlihemi]

My advice is to go with the hot rod while they work out details on the truck. I hate being the BETA tester on my own nickel.

[mgh]

My advice is to go with the hot rod while they work out details on the truck. I hate being the BETA tester on my own nickel.

Good advice, the 33 it is, now I have to finish the built in's our my study that my wife has been asking for, hopefully I'll purchase it the first of 2018.