Side Pipe Body Cut Outs

[CobraboyDR]

The original 427 s/c had a cut out on the body where side pipes exits that did not extend to the rocker area, leaving around 1-2" of the body below the pipes.

My Superformance side pipe cut out also was a semi-square hole cut out of the body. When we fit side pipes, we had to put the square flange through the body to mount the pipes.

The FFR Roadster's I've seen has the entire area cut out of the body. I understand this makes body fitting easier, but I really like just a square cut out, not an entire area. I like the side pipes extending *from* the body, and not in a cut on the bottom edge.

Has anyone cut a side pipe hole in their roadster? Do the header/side pipe connection and angle allow this?

This pic shows what I refer to:

http://shopsuperformance.com/images/AME-427S-SET-PIC1.jpg

[edwardb]

It would take custom headers that exit higher and at a shallower angle to make that possible with a Factory Five. The commonly used setups, even when custom that I've seen, don't have enough room underneath for the body to close the opening. They wouldn't have to be raised too much. There's available room except the steering column would limit some on the DS. But probably enough if you really want to do it.

I wouldn't say it's about body fitting. It's still necessary to have the side pipes off to install/remove the body. Especially with the Mk4 and the wraparound sills. Also since the FF header/side pipe joint is very close to the body exit, having it closed would make it very difficult to take the pipes on and off. The joint is quite different than what I've seen on a Superformance.

This isn't the same angle as your pic, but representative of the standard FF opening and somewhat sharper pipe angle.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Body/th_IMG_0586_zpsnpnxslfw.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Body/IMG_0586_zpsnpnxslfw.jpg.html)

[CobraboyDR]

It would take custom headers that exit higher and at a shallower angle to make that possible with a Factory Five. The commonly used setups, even when custom that I've seen, don't have enough room underneath for the body to close the opening. They wouldn't have to be raised too much. There's available room except the steering column would limit some on the DS. But probably enough if you really want to do it.

I wouldn't say it's about body fitting. It's still necessary to have the side pipes off to install/remove the body. Especially with the Mk4 and the wraparound sills. Also since the FF header/side pipe joint is very close to the body exit, having it closed would make it very difficult to take the pipes on and off. The joint is quite different than what I've seen on a Superformance.

This isn't the same angle as your pic, but representative of the standard FF opening and somewhat sharper pipe angle.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Body/th_IMG_0586_zpsnpnxslfw.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Body/IMG_0586_zpsnpnxslfw.jpg.html)So it would take custom headers AND sidepipes, correct?

Soumds like a lot of work for marginal aesthetics.

[grluisi150]

The other issue would be, the rear mount mates to the side pipes much lower than what you would need and you would end up with the side pipes on a slope and not parallel to the ground.

Gary

[edwardb]

So it would take custom headers AND sidepipes, correct?

Soumds like a lot of work for marginal aesthetics.

I don't know about the side pipes, but something different than the usual headers. Maybe something as simple as a different angle at the heads. But still would be very hard to get the side pipes on/off. Suggest you look at one in person to draw your own conclusions. I agree it's not worth the effort. But that's just my opinion.