Crashed GTM...:(

[crash]

OUCH!!.....

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Per the person reporting on the "other forum" all were uninjured.

[riptide motorsport]

good thing it was just a fire hydrant aND NOT A TREE.

[Vman7]

Ouch!!.....wonder if the person was texting........

[David Hodgkins]

Nope, hit a bump and it spun. He went in backwards. That's all I'll say, as this is now an insurance issue.

The important thing is, he's ok.

Bummer way to end a Father's day.

:(

[GTMKris]

Glad he is alright. Always hate to see something like this but gald the driver was ok.

[Texan_GTM]

Sad way to end the day... Glad he's okay though :)

[spdnman]

good thing it was just a fire hydrant aND NOT A TREE.

I hit a tree 2.5 yrs ago in a Corvette and I will never be the same. They are more than lucky.

[snakeboost]

Trees don't move

[The Stig]

Nope, hit a bump and it spun. He went in backwards. That's all I'll say, as this is now an insurance issue.

The important thing is, he's ok.

Bummer way to end a Father's day.

:(

If hitting a bump caused this, I think that we should all pay closer attention to alignment and suspension set-up of our cars. Ted Harrision & Ron Richmond have already started an education process for the rest of us to induvidually determine the best set-up for our cars. I don't think that we can leave it solely up to the guys at the GM dealership to do a Corvette alignment and leave it at that.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?1994-Chassis-Set-Up

I am very glad to hear that Tom survived the wreck unhurt, and is doing well. It looks like he took a pretty hard shunt, but it also looks as though the cockpit area held up well. A testament to the strength of the frames and roll cage.




http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/Other GTMs/side.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/Other GTMs/pass20front20corner.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/Other GTMs/drivers20front2028long29.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/Other GTMs/fender20on20road.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/Other GTMs/wheel.jpg

[Texan_GTM]

^^ +1

[818_Fan_15]

Wow! Glad to see that FFR cars are safe!!

[LCD Gauges]

Good thing it's all roll cage!

She still looks beautiful even in pieces... :(

[John Buzoianu]

God Bless the roll cage...

@00SS agreed... even in pieces a GTM is still a piece of art...

[fastthings]

Yep, we're all glad F5R has put their heart in these kits. It would seam that they have tried.

This pic cost me a couple grand, I now own traction control.

[AC Bill]

Nope, hit a bump and it spun. :(

Any more updated information as to what caused this, other than hitting a bump? Must be more to it than that.

"Hit a bump while cornering, rear suspension unloaded, back end swung out", or "hit bump, suspension piece broke", sort of thing??
What sage advice can be provided to perhaps help others from having this happen?

[LCD Gauges]

No doubt speed was a factor when hitting that "bump". Judging by the rear end damage and the bending of the front rim, the car was likely well over and above the 60 MPH mark.

[crash]

I'm no accident expert, but I would think that a heck of a lot of damage can be done at 60 MPH by a stationary object like a fire hydrant.

Until you have experienced a step out in a mid or rear engined car...well let's just say that you haven't lived!

It is exciting. On the video with the Ferraris, Audis, etc that I have posted on YouTube, towards the end I ALMOST lose the car in a spin by going too fast over a turning ridge type of corner. I show you how to catch that particular type of issue, but just know that on street tires, on very tight streets, the outcome likely would not have been good, even knowing what to do. Let me also say that things can go south in a mid engined car very quickly. To learn the limits, I again suggest that ALL GTM OWNERS TAKE A DRIVING SCHOOL THAT USES THE PARTICIPANTS CAR IN A RELATIVELY SAFE CONDITION like a race track venue.

Here's a link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYksZ_WoUSw

Here's a link to a nationwide driving experience group:

http://www.hookedondriving.com/index.cfm

[Kempo]

Like crash said "I'm no accident expert but" on the picture of the broken rear suspension it looks like the rear shock was also being run inverted. I know that is a gen I but if those black shocks are the same as on the genII that car might as well have being just running on springs. If there was a bump, mixed up with too much speed that has disaster written all over it.

[Roger Reid]

Like crash said "I'm no accident expert but" on the picture of the broken rear suspension it looks like the rear shock was also being run inverted. I know that is a gen I but if those black shocks are the same as on the genII that car might as well have being just running on springs. If there was a bump, mixed up with too much speed that has disaster written all over it.

When I saw that this thread had been resurrected I really didn’t want to read it again. But...

Kempo brings up a good point that after this accident happened we learned more about the Black Koni’s supplied with the kit. The Koni’s have damping mounted shaft side up and no damping mounted shaft side down. So if there is anyone out there with black Koni’s mounted shaft side down, now is the time to change the orientation.

[LCD Gauges]

I'm no accident expert, but I would think that a heck of a lot of damage can be done at 60 MPH by a stationary object like a fire hydrant.


No doubt, but what I meant was: the car was likely moving faster than the speed limit. Judging by the fire hydrant and driveway, I'm going to 'assume' this was a residential
area, and the vehicle was not traveling at the posted speed (40 MPH?).

[crash]

I thought you may have known something we didn't when you posted what you did. It made it sound like the posted speed limit was 60 MPH. I thought that was odd due to the prima facia speed laws, but was using your numbers. Quite frankly, I can see this much damage being reasonable at sub 40 MPH speeds if things are hit right.


No doubt speed was a factor when hitting that "bump". Judging by the rear end damage and the bending of the front rim, the car was likely well over and above the 60 MPH mark.