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DVANSLEEN
06-23-2016, 09:23 PM
Has anybody tried to reset their password on the "other forum" as they have forced people to do. They have really screwed it up.
I'm glad I use this one most of the time.

Hotyacht
06-23-2016, 10:26 PM
Yep, I did it no problem at all. Sort of came out of left field as far as having to do it, but no problem going through the process and only took a few minutes. Most of the time was trying to dream up a new password that is longer than the National Anthem contains numbers, symbols, caps, hieroglyphics, Swahili, French, Polish and Roman numerals + my Aunty's birthdate!

chopthebass
06-23-2016, 10:26 PM
Yeah I got the email too. I just reset mine and its back to normal.
I'm never going to remember my new password!!

McObra
06-23-2016, 11:46 PM
No problem changing mine.

frankeeski
06-24-2016, 12:55 AM
The administrators of that site continue to "shoot themselves in the foot".

wareaglescott
06-24-2016, 03:25 AM
Password was reset no problem. Im more concerned what the "security issue" that caused all this in the first place was.

jrcuz
06-24-2016, 05:33 AM
I was unable to reset mine even with the new password they gave me
JR

KDubU
06-24-2016, 06:12 AM
I was able to but it's not the smoothest. I already had a complex 16 character one so wish I did not need to change but whatever.

CraigS
06-24-2016, 06:38 AM
There was a thread there maybe a week ago about the parent company getting hacked. To me this seems like when your bank decides to give you a new card w/ a new account # on it.

mikeinatlanta
06-24-2016, 06:46 AM
I haven't been there because I don't want to support them with numbers, however, other forums with the same software had the same thing yesterday.

MisterAdam
06-24-2016, 07:02 AM
Yep, I did it no problem at all. Sort of came out of left field as far as having to do it, but no problem going through the process and only took a few minutes. Most of the time was trying to dream up a new password that is longer than the National Anthem contains numbers, symbols, caps, hieroglyphics, Swahili, French, Polish and Roman numerals + my Aunty's birthdate!

I love these replies!!! made my day. reset mine no problem

Svtfreak
06-24-2016, 07:27 AM
I've had to do the same for a few forums lately. It happens. I think it's funny. People get all twisted about changing password. Do they also hit a detour on the way to work and turn around, return home, give up and just quit? Lol.

But, this is a good point to not put anything into a social media that you don't want the world to know. These forums are social media just like Facebook, etc, and you can't expect complete privacy on a system that is designed to facilitate social interaction. A little common sense goes along way.

(This coming from the guy who avoids Facebook and don't even store his credit card info on his own computer)

mikeinatlanta
06-24-2016, 07:43 AM
Do they also hit a detour on the way to work and turn around, return home, give up and just quit?

You been spying on me?:rolleyes:

first time builder
06-24-2016, 07:49 AM
Wasn't expected but change it no problem. Just have to write it down to remember it
Kenny

6t8dart
06-24-2016, 08:40 AM
I have always kept money/banking passwords different that play passwords, like forums. I often use "soft" easy to remember passwords for that stuff. Between work and everything else I have about 40-50 passwords to keep track of. I also try to change everything at minimum once a year.

Gumball
06-24-2016, 09:54 AM
I've sort of abandoned the "other" forum, since it's more commercial these days.... doing my best to help FFR build this forum into the premier site for their cars and community.

I received a couple password reset warnings from various enthusiast forums that I do or used to frequent - leading me to think that maybe the parent host company was hacked.

JIMOCO
06-24-2016, 10:24 AM
I received a new password and can log in. As soon as I try to set up a new password I get a screen about the update and instructions to change my password but it freezes and I cannot do anything after that. I have tried many times and the updated system is not working for me. I am about to give up.

Blue MK3
06-24-2016, 10:32 AM
It took me a couple of tries, but I managed to reset to my new PW. The trick is to pay careful attention to the new sign-in page setting/changing passwords. Here's how I did it:


Open the email you received from the forum and copy the supplied password into your clipboard.
Go to the "other forum" home page and log in, using your old User ID and pasting the new (supplied) password in the appropriate boxes.
Then go to to the line near the top of the page where it says "Welcome wxyz" and click on your "Private Messages."
Over on the left side of the page, click on "Edit Email & Password" in the "Settings & Options" section.
Paste the new, supplied PW into the top box. Don't use your old password here.
Then enter the PW you will use in the future. The red X's will turn into green check marks as you meet the new PW requirements (Caps, symbols, length, etc.)
Confirm the password in the second box and you should be good to go.



Then record the new PW you're going to use. I know, you're not supposed to do this, but with so many different PW's all having to meet different requirements, I have to or I can't remember them.:p

codename Bil Doe
06-24-2016, 12:10 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-steals-45-million-accounts-from-hundreds-of-verticalscope-car-tech-sports-forums/

ncbuilder
06-24-2016, 12:17 PM
Yep ! It took me 3 times but I finally got it changed. Now another new password to manage/remember !

myrtille2004
06-24-2016, 12:54 PM
I had my account on the other site for more than 5 years with many post, it just died since my email reset password and email address don't match anymore, I don't understand. I have sent a request at the admin, but I don't have high expectation. I will only use this site for now!

GoDadGo
06-24-2016, 01:46 PM
There's Another Factory Five Forum?

All kidding aside, I never could get on it and just figured they didn't want me since my car will be Mighty Mouse Powered!

Ya'll Have A Great Weekend!

David Hodgkins
06-24-2016, 02:03 PM
I had my account on the other site for more than 5 years with many post, it just died since my email reset password and email address don't match anymore, I don't understand. I have sent a request at the admin, but I don't have high expectation. I will only use this site for now!

As much as I'm temped to say I didn't see this post :D I can help you get your account over there back on track. Send me a PM with your primary ID and preferred email over there and I'll set the email into your profile. Then you will be able to use the "send password" function over there to get you back on track...

:)

GoDadGo
06-24-2016, 02:14 PM
As much as I'm temped to say I didn't see this post :D I can help you get your account over there back on track. Send me a PM with your primary ID and preferred email over there and I'll set the email into your profile. Then you will be able to use the "send password" function over there to get you back on track...

:)

Can I assume that this is the "Official Factory Five Forum" since there logo is on it and since the "Factory Five Staff, Including Dave Smith" always give us updates?

In other words, do we really need two forums?

Boydster
06-24-2016, 02:31 PM
I got in and reset password, first time, no issues.

1 manufacturer forum, 1 public / commercial forum. Much, much broader exposure and its all good for F5.

AC Bill
06-24-2016, 03:18 PM
So after all the BS of trying to think up a new password, that I might actually be able to remember, I see they just assigned me one of their own anyway. No way I could ever remember that jumble..
So WTF? Why wouldn't the new password I chose yesterday, just be used from the get-go, instead of me screwing around doing the same bloody thing all over again? They could have just e-mailed all the members a new password from the start, and then we wouldn't have to do it all over again..bloody twits..:mad:

If a person is even a half bit intelligent, they should be able to chose a password that doesn't require capital letters, symbols, and numbers. That's ridiculous..even my bank doesn't require something as complicated..:confused:

Al_C
06-24-2016, 05:37 PM
Notice we haven't had any problems here... Thanks for keeping our forum safe, David!

CobraFan460
06-25-2016, 05:35 AM
ncbuilder - that pic you attached to your post...it looks like hoofa is still hard at work on his cobra! Anyone know what ever came of it and him?

Todd

mikeinatlanta
06-25-2016, 06:42 AM
Can I assume that this is the "Official Factory Five Forum" since there logo is on it and since the "Factory Five Staff, Including Dave Smith" always give us updates?

In other words, do we really need two forums?

You are tapping into a lot of history. The other forum was around for a long time and contains an irreplaceable wealth of information, especially on the earlier cars. It started going downhill when the this forum was created and the other forum's owner sold his interest. It has(had) a real since of family that is slowly dissolving. A shame really. I left it over how they treated the paying vendors.

Is this one the "official" forum? yes. Do we need two? No we don't.

j.miller
06-25-2016, 08:21 AM
I can't get in. It recognizes nothing about me.....I'm washed up, a has been......15 years of my life and this is what I get....no kiss on the cheek. No, I love you......not even a gold watch to say "Thanks" or "Don't let the door hit on the *** on the way out" ! Oh the humanity! Standing on the outside looking in....LIKE A FAT KID IN FRONT OF A PASTERY STORE !!....really, I was a fat kid who stood in front of pastry stores so I know what I'm talkin about !!......da hasbeen

ram_g
06-25-2016, 11:53 AM
I can't get in. It recognizes nothing about me.....I'm washed up, a has been......15 years of my life and this is what I get....no kiss on the cheek. No, I love you......not even a gold watch to say "Thanks" or "Don't let the door hit on the *** on the way out" ! Oh the humanity! Standing on the outside looking in....LIKE A FAT KID IN FRONT OF A PASTERY STORE !!....really, I was a fat kid who stood in front of pastry stores so I know what I'm talkin about !!......da hasbeen

J.Hasbeen, it's probably because you're not using a password that:

is longer than the National Anthem contains numbers, symbols, caps, hieroglyphics, Swahili, French, Polish and Roman numerals + my Aunty's birthdate!

Yes it's a royal pain in the tush but I was able to get in, reset my password, etc.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=40532&d=1428867824 (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/rbs_banner.php?id=51&userid=670)

ram_g
06-25-2016, 12:02 PM
There's Another Factory Five Forum?

All kidding aside, I never could get on it and just figured they didn't want me since my car will be Mighty Mouse Powered!

Ya'll Have A Great Weekend!

Like Mike said, there's way more history on the other site, particularly when it comes to Roadsters and Coupes and configurations that aren't "in" at the moment, like 4.6 modular engines. Also a much more active Classifieds section and for paying members, a closed "hangout" forum where discussions of any nature are allowed, which would typically be quickly closed and get you banned elsewhere.

For newer 33 and especially 818 topics, this forum has much more traffic.

Personally I think there's a place for both to coexist. The problem with a manufacturer supported site is the high prevalence of "kool aid drinkers". And yes, that does happen with this site!

Oldfart01
06-25-2016, 12:05 PM
The parent company of that site, Vertical Scope, got hacked. They own HUNDREDS of sites. They had all their sites do all the passwords over. I'm not on too many forums but 5 I use are owned by them. I'm a mod on one of the hacked sites & we had some issues with a few resets, but not very many.

David Hodgkins
06-25-2016, 12:05 PM
Like Mike said, there's way more history on the other site, particularly when it comes to Roadsters and Coupes and configurations that aren't "in" at the moment, like 4.6 modular engines. Also a much more active Classifieds section and for paying members, a closed "hangout" forum where discussions of any nature are allowed, which would typically be quickly closed and get you banned elsewhere.

For newer 33 and especially 818 topics, this forum has much more traffic.

Personally I think there's a place for both to coexist. The problem with a manufacturer supported site is the high prevalence of "kool aid drinkers". And yes, that does happen with this site!

I disagree, and you are therefore banned.

David Hodgkins
06-25-2016, 12:06 PM
Just kidding!

:)

mikeinatlanta
06-25-2016, 01:00 PM
That right there was funny. At least as funny as is allowed around here.:)

AC Bill
06-25-2016, 01:37 PM
That right there was funny. At least as funny as is allowed around here.:)

Yep...David had me really chuckling with that response...:p

rich grsc
06-25-2016, 02:37 PM
I can't get in. It recognizes nothing about me.....I'm washed up, a has been......15 years of my life and this is what I get....no kiss on the cheek. No, I love you......not even a gold watch to say "Thanks" or "Don't let the door hit on the *** on the way out" ! Oh the humanity! Standing on the outside looking in....LIKE A FAT KID IN FRONT OF A PASTERY STORE !!....really, I was a fat kid who stood in front of pastry stores so I know what I'm talkin about !!......da hasbeen

"Morerumplease" is not an acceptable password.

ram_g
06-25-2016, 05:42 PM
Just kidding!

:)

Man, dodged a bullet!!

:D

Leonard
06-26-2016, 08:03 AM
The reason for the forced passwords at 'the other site' is that the company that now owns it (VerticalScope) had a security breech that resulted in 45 million usernames/passwords for 1100 web forums being compromised. If you use the same username/password for any automotive sites you should probably consider changing them all -- ideally to something unique per site.

I'm disappointed in how VerticalScope is communicating this to their users -- specifically the lack of communication. They're issuing forced password resets with vague mention of a security issue but no details. You have to dig to come up with a press release at the parent company website (http://www.verticalscope.com/about-us/security-update.html) or do a google search for "verticalscope security breach"

David Hodgkins
06-26-2016, 12:45 PM
I've gotten some requests for email changes, but I can't get to them until this afternoon, sorry! I'll post again as soon as they are done.

:)

David Hodgkins
06-26-2016, 04:19 PM
I've been able to help all who have requested it except the OP. I can't force their system to generate a random password, I can only force it to require the user change it on next login, when they will be forced to use the new password widget over there. Again, I can update the email address, so if that is your requirement let me know.

:)

CraigS
06-26-2016, 06:42 PM
I think some need to lighten up a bit. Both forums have their place. I go to both every day. A new password that they assign you has some ticked off? Jeeeeez. Happens on all the forums I am on now and again. Normal occurrence, to me anyway. There are advantages to both forums. Neither is perfect. I enjoy both, and plan to for as long as they exist.

Barrel
06-26-2016, 06:49 PM
I think some need to lighten up a bit. Both forums have their place. I go to both every day. A new password that they assign you has some ticked off? Jeeeeez. Happens on all the forums I am on now and again. Normal occurrence, to me anyway. There are advantages to both forums. Neither is perfect. I enjoy both, and plan to for as long as they exist.

Well Thank You! I think that most of us agree with you. Cheers.

tirod
06-27-2016, 05:42 AM
The password reset is more than that - because guys who deal with mechanical objects aren't that tech savvy with computers as a given. It's two different things. Add in the demographic we are considering. The average F5 owner is over 50, sure, many got up to speed with computers but they didn't grow up with them. They weren't working cheat codes on games, they were figuring out how to bolt on carbs - mechanical cheat codes.

I understand generalizations are problematic, but I suspect the 818 crowd isn't having a problem with it, nor was there much traffic there anyway.

What V has done is allowed their own negligence to sort out the casual users based on computer skills and they are going to see a lot of drop off in traffic because of the way they are handling it. It's no different than what the Army has gone thru, super secure passwords with short windows of operation weren't needed just to download a retirement check stub. They got the memo and changed it. If it's going to take that kind of encryption to sign in then a lot of the older crowd will just sign off. It's not USER FRIENDLY - which used to mean something.

Frankly hacking passwords on recreational sites doesn't seem to be real lucrative. As said, it's not like many use the same password they use for their bank account, and a lot use a different email to deadstop the spam from sites that get phished anyway. I'm much less worried over someone hacking hobby sites when 25 million secured military records were already given away by the same lack of concern from the US Government.

If TOS won't make the process easy (aka the multistep process outlined in a post above) then oh well. Their loss of hits gets reflected in revenue and that chicken will come home to roost.

It's lean here and obviously this site gets more attention from the admins than 1,100 under one roof.

supersize92003
06-27-2016, 09:19 AM
O.K. I give up. What's the other forum ?

frankeeski
06-27-2016, 05:54 PM
Why do I always feel I'm being lectured too when certain people post?

cwhoofgator
06-27-2016, 07:08 PM
I had my account on the other site for more than 5 years with many post, it just died since my email reset password and email address don't match anymore, I don't understand. I have sent a request at the admin, but I don't have high expectation. I will only use this site for now!

Same here over 10 years now I can't even log in. Admin has nor answered, think I am done with them.

Forbye4
06-27-2016, 09:32 PM
Yes, Mine seems to be messed up too. "Flo" wanted to ask me a security question...

j.miller
06-28-2016, 04:58 PM
I wouldn't care if I have to get a new password,,, I'm just locked out because it won't recognize my E-Mail.

Avalanche325
06-28-2016, 05:34 PM
I wouldn't care if I have to get a new password,,, I'm just locked out because it won't recognize my E-Mail.

I am having the same issue.

If I can't get on the forum, what am I supposed to do while I am at work?

rich grsc
06-28-2016, 05:41 PM
I think some need to lighten up a bit. Both forums have their place. I go to both every day. A new password that they assign you has some ticked off? Jeeeeez. Happens on all the forums I am on now and again. Normal occurrence, to me anyway. There are advantages to both forums. Neither is perfect. I enjoy both, and plan to for as long as they exist.

Thank you Craig. Its unbelievable that people(children) get pissed because they have to change their password. It was a very easy thing to do. These same guys would be the first one to raise holy hell if their hacked password caused their computers to be hacked at home. GROW UP

David Hodgkins
06-28-2016, 06:11 PM
Again, if your email is no longer valid, I can set a new one for you. Send me a PM or post here...

:)

cwhoofgator
06-28-2016, 09:13 PM
Again, if your email is no longer valid, I can set a new one for you. Send me a PM or post here...

:) PM sent

David Hodgkins
06-29-2016, 11:02 AM
Chuck and Jeff, your current email addresses have been set into your profile. Use the "Lost Password" functionality over there to reset your password if needed.

Avalanche325, send me your email via PM or this thread and I'll update your profile for you too.

:)

j.miller
06-30-2016, 03:53 PM
THANK YOU MR HODGEKINS ! sorry if my whining upset anyone....not really ! It was in me and needed to come out !...da Bat

Avalanche325
06-30-2016, 04:10 PM
David,

I am all good. Thanks for fixing me up!

David Hodgkins
06-30-2016, 05:44 PM
Thank you, ahhhhhhh thank you very much. I'll be here all week. Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waitress!!!

;)

DVANSLEEN
07-02-2016, 07:06 PM
Update. They finally made the pass word update work more user friendly. I went back and tried again and it updated as it should have the first 10 times. One thing to watch is if it contains a zero or the letter O. They look simular.
Thanks David H. for your help!

David Hodgkins
07-02-2016, 08:50 PM
Update. They finally made the pass word update work more user friendly. I went back and tried again and it updated as it should have the first 10 times. One thing to watch is if it contains a zero or the letter O. They look simular.
Thanks David H. for your help!

FINALLY! Glad you got in. Just hoping you still love this place too!

:)