View Full Version : Best clutch - mainly street use (Coyote & tko 600 combo)
Jester
06-12-2016, 03:23 PM
Question to Coyote experts - what clutch are you using?
I have a Coyote - TKO 600 combo with the recommended FRPP Centerforce clutch as per the FFR recommended parts list. I have just under 10k miles and need to replace my clutch (beginning to slip slightly at higher speeds when hitting the throttle). I have checked the cable adjustment and clutch fully engages. I am thinking of change to a stock Ford clutch if possible as I believe it may provide longer life. I was hoping to get 20k mi on my clutch and I am surprised I have to replace so soon - no track time and only the occasional hot launch.
Has anyone changed a clutch with a Coyote without removing the engine & trans from the car? Or can I change the clutch by loosening the engine mount bolts and tilting the engine / trans to remove the trans & clutch??
Any suggestions re best clutch to use for my replacement?
Thx in advance
Bob Cowan
06-12-2016, 04:58 PM
I was talking to some one yesterday with the same engine/trans in a mark IV. Yes, you can remove the trans w/o removing the engine. As you would expect, it's a PITA.
The toughest part is always getting it all lined up so the trans nose will slip in to the bearing. Get a couple of 7/16" x 3" bolts. Cut the heads off, and cut a screwdriver slot in the end. Use these like guide pins to get the trans aligned as you slide it in.
If the Centerforce clutch is now slipping, I would not step down to a stock clutch. I would step up to a Ram HD. The Ram HD has a slightly heavier pedal than the CF, and will chatter just a little when cold. But it will hold better.
DaleG
06-12-2016, 08:44 PM
I have the Coyote, TKO500 and the Valeo clutch Mike Forte supplied with the combo. I'm happy with it, no issues, though I only have a little over 1000 miles on it. Why not just pull the engine and tranny? I know its a pain disconnecting everything but then you would have easy access to install the critical components. Just a thought...
Jester
06-13-2016, 10:54 AM
Thx for the suggestions Bob - I will look into the Ram clutch.
I believe removing the engine will be much more work than removing the trans etc from below the car.
Any other suggestions on clutch & pressure plate would be appreciated.
Thx
Dave Howard
06-13-2016, 03:33 PM
I'm using a Centerforce clutch ( M-7560-T46 Clutch Kit ). It was part of the Coyote "recommended" parts list from Factory Five in 2012. I figured if it's good enough for Dave Smiths car then its good enough for this Dave too. After 25000 kilometer I've had NO issues. Its driving a bone stock (easy to shift) TKO600 and my 2 sons have put the car through its paces.
mrpipes
06-13-2016, 03:44 PM
I have a MK4, Coyote, TCCM1899 bellhousing, TKO600 and 3 link rear end.
I changed my clutch without removing the engine or transmission by sliding the transmission toward the rear as far as it will go.
Is your transmission tunnel cover removable?
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Jester
06-13-2016, 04:09 PM
I have a MK4, Coyote, TCCM1899 bellhousing, TKO600 and 3 link rear end.
I changed my clutch without removing the engine or transmission by sliding the transmission toward the rear as far as it will go.
Is your transmission tunnel cover removable?
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Thx Brian - yes my trans tunnel is removeable - Were the bolts on the bell housing difficult to access - any trick to access them?
Not sure why I only got ~10k on my clutch - perhaps I did not break in properly or possibly a poor/faulty pressure plate? I assume i need to replace both the disk and pressure plate.
Thx
mrpipes
06-13-2016, 04:35 PM
The bellhousing bolts are accessible from top and bottom but turning space is limited.
The most time consuming part is getting the transmission back into the pilot bearing like Bob said above.
Jazzman
09-18-2016, 01:19 AM
Finding this thread is quite timely for me. I am finalizing my clutch selection now. I have narrowed it down to three: Ford Racing, McLeod, and Centerforce. Each are the "clear choice" by someone in the know that I trust. Each one seems to have it's supporters and detractors, each claims to be the strongest, the fastest, the most dependable, etc. From what I have been able to read, Centerforce may indeed be the strongest, but it is really expensive relatively speaking, and I read that it may need some minor modification. McLeod may be the smoothest and the lightest clutch weight. Ford Racing seems to be the cost leader. Any other thoughts or considerations that I have missed?
edwardb
09-18-2016, 06:43 AM
The Ford Racing M-7560-T46 clutch (now calling themselves Ford Performance Parts) is actually a Centerforce dual friction clutch. It's the one recommended by Factory Five in their Coyote installation manual and the one I chose based on that plus forum feedback. It was a straightforward installation with no surprises or mods. I've only go-karted, but it seems fine. From a rating standpoint, certainly up to the performance level I'm planning for the build. I'm pleasantly surprised with the pedal effort. It's noticeably lighter than the McLeod Super StreetPro 75207 clutch in Mk4 #7750. I didn't come across a McLeod clutch for the Coyote when I was looking some months ago. The Centerforce it sounds like you're referring to is their dual disk version. As you said, quite expensive. Almost twice the price of the Ford Racing/Centerforce dual friction version. I guess it's a great setup and can handle a lot of power. Guys give them high marks. Not sure it's needed for a street driven stock Coyote installation though.