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will be fabbing the front bumper mounts next week. going to make clamp to the sway bar mount then back to fram. Not much to go to.
erlihemi
05-22-2018, 10:48 AM
Looking great Tom! I haven't gotten back to my running boards. The extra wide rear fenders I made look huge. Your pic of the rear bumper show how much wider these cars really are. Looks like you're having fun :D
New battery box built into rear bumper brace.86237862388623986240
myjones
05-26-2018, 07:19 AM
Nice job on the battery box, that's a good place for the weight too.
Dale
JimLev
05-26-2018, 08:11 AM
Thanks for those pics, didn't realize there was that much room there (I don't have the body on yet).
Can you tell me where you got the bumper from? As good as the car looks without a bumper with the battery in that location a bumper would be a good idea.
The stock parts came from Bob Drake ( bobdrake.com ) very good quality.
With bumper and battery on needed to move exhaust (every mod makes for more changes)! Moved exhaust out from battery and down behind bumper. Had the front pipes that had bends on flange end so used them in back.86289862908629186292
AJT '33
05-26-2018, 01:15 PM
Where did you get the bumper from? I need a front bumper and am dreading building one. The. rackets from the car will be fine but it's the bumper itself that I'm dreading to build, would like to buy and modify if necessary. THX.
First class setup on both bumper and battery
The ones i have are stock 33 bumpers from Bob Drake, but if you are going to cut up you need to find ones that you like the look, then make fit.
There is no provision for bumpers so you will have to make your own brackets as to frame .
Good i got my Quickjack and aluminum jack. 86449864508645186452 had to lift front of car to get lift under- not a problem.
Worked on mounting lights, had to mod the stock mounts and build the under fender part,more work to do on them.86453
Got the headlights where i want them,had to cut up the mounts and wield up then braze cups to fit light ball, make the wedge to fit fender, then brace to fender brace. Will clean up when i take fenders off.86633866348663586636
AJT '33
06-04-2018, 08:05 AM
Good i got my Quickjack and aluminum jack. 86449864508645186452 had to lift front of car to get lift under- not a problem.
Worked on mounting lights, had to mod the stock mounts and build the under fender part,more work to do on them.86453
Please just remember to have safety jack stands in place if you work under the car, that way if you should have a release of pressure the stand is halted at a height. Be safe.
j33ptj
06-06-2018, 06:17 AM
Do you have a front bumper too?
Robert
RoadRacer
06-06-2018, 07:05 AM
Please just remember to have safety jack stands in place if you work under the car, that way if you should have a release of pressure the stand is halted at a height. Be safe.
AJT, Quickjack does has a locking mechanism built in: http://www.quickjack.com/why-quickjack/quickjack-safe-to-use-without-jack-stands/
AJT '33
06-06-2018, 07:56 AM
AJT, Quickjack does has a locking mechanism built in: http://www.quickjack.com/why-quickjack/quickjack-safe-to-use-without-jack-stands/
Excellent, want to keep you safe to enjoy the toy later!!!
Got the front bumper brackets built and bumper on.868988689986900869018690286903
Putting on exhaust cutouts QTP low profile with a oval 45 to go into header pipe just in front of bolt flange, using all the room. Had a hell of time wielding, well the dam regulator was letting the gas out top , looked to be working but not enough gas to wield. That was enough for today, will fex tomorrow.
j33ptj
06-14-2018, 03:52 AM
Are you not worried abt the heat radiation from the exhausts on the battery? Heat and batteries don't go well together....
Oh and I take it is a yes on the front bumper then!! hahahaha
Robert
I think that battery will be cooler than in engine compartment.
Well have appointment @ DMV on 19TH and CHP on 7/31. Have read post's and talked about but CHP told me to go to DMV first, so will do!
Cut out the bad wields and fixed, have to work on down turns.8742587426
Got it all in and was able to keep all above the bottom of frame, have to stop putting parts on, no room!87440874418744287443
OK well i have Insurance with hagerty, no problem only restriction is 7500 miles a year, guaranteed value. Then went to DMV and worked thru that, had a very nice young lady that was willing to read what i brought and other info, asked two other workers and super, called sacramento four times. I ended up with Kit car as 33 replica and they used the serial number for the VIN, as per sac. Paid my tax and fees, got all my paper work with 60 day permit. So we will see i have appointment at CHP on 7/31.
Would like to have the front window in for driving , but out for paint. Thinking about two sided tape? Any ideas on this? Going to drive car for chp-lamp & bar, shakedown before paint.
AJT '33
06-20-2018, 02:26 PM
Would like to have the front window in for driving , but out for paint. Thinking about two sided tape? Any ideas on this? Going to drive car for chp-lamp & bar, shakedown before paint.
I was also looking to see how the front and rear windows install and cannot find anything in the guide, may be blind but am I? If someone knows what page number its under please tell me!! THX!!
They glue in like all modern glass.
AJT '33
06-21-2018, 09:17 AM
They glue in like all modern glass.
Thanks 1932, I have not dug in deeper right now but did yours come with the appropriate glue and any finishing trim for the inside of the window? My serial number is #1028 so I am not sure how that compares to other current or recent kits. I will be digging into this on the weekend to see what i have in my kit as I don't see anything listed on my inventory list nor do I remember my son saying anything when he did the inventory of everything.THX!
You get only the glass in kit. I will ask neighbor that does glass repair.
Have decided to go ahead and put glass in as inside paint is single stage and outside paint is base-clear coat .
AJT '33
06-21-2018, 02:25 PM
You get only the glass in kit. I will ask neighbor that does glass repair.
Have decided to go ahead and put glass in as inside paint is single stage and outside paint is base-clear coat .
Cool, My inside paint is two stage and will be satin on the interior to alleviate any unnecessary additional glare. I have SikaTack windshield glue system which i will most likely use to glue them in. I will also see if its worth getting the local windshield repair person to install it as well. TY!
Been working on door windows, went to the box i have been carefully on the shelf, got box downe and NO GLASS! Dam i will call FFR about it. I did not look or take out the glass so as not to mess it up.
Found the glass! FFR said it was in box 31 in a box of its own, so look for a different box with glass only. That is what happens when i put things in a safe place!
Working on doors & windows, windows perty good and built up Ds with fiber tec, liking that. Will start to fab the door tops with aluminum879428794387944
Having trouble with red top battery, will not charge and stay a reasonable %?
The battery was no good (new), exchanged and all is good.
I have GPS speedo, will it work through the aluminum on dynamat?
CVOBill
07-03-2018, 11:55 AM
Tom,
My GPS speedo works fine under the dash.
I have roll cage so has to go on top of that, and dynamat in top of cab. Will mount on top of middle bar and can put forward under fiberglass but would like to have it back some but will be under dynamat.
Put in all the dynamat( as used in big trucks & tractors), the floor piece in front of seats pulls out for cleaning. The line on side of trans tunnel is where the top comes off, didn't think i could find it if didn't splice it.88366883678836888369883708837188372
Made sill out of angle aluminum.
Did some cutting on front fenders , so that my big tires clear when at full turn.8850288503
Had a small crack on hood so i ground out all inside fiberglass and did over. It was some of the first glass work i did and had some problems then, found air pocket on both sides.88504
First look at lights and bumper with car on floor--I like!88505
Good day! Our son helped put in the front & back glass,this is what we used88599 The back was very eazy. Front not so much, because i wanted to fill around outside of glass to body. I went around the cab with a bure in the drill so as to get down to fiberglass and have it ruff for glue.
Need a lot of rags or shop towels, and acetone will cut the glue8860488605
Working on door handles, think i have a fix for them, more to come.
Very nice work on the glass
OK here are pics of the fix for the door handle. 88651886518865288653886548865588656886578865888659 88660
The stop needs to be strong so will not bend, you can use thicker or thinner bushings on stop tp fine tune. I used the backing plate to mark holes for handle so it lined up with stile line.
I got the car out of shop and put 19 miles on it!! Had to pull in and lift the rear about one 1 inch then all good. need tune it is on a start up tune that is good to drive, will make appointment for to get tuned.
All worked good but the reverse lock out, need to run that down it is hard to get in reverse.
I will get son to put up video later.
Pics before we go get gas.88838888398884088841
RoadRacer
07-14-2018, 12:08 PM
Pics before we go get gas.88838888398884088841
Wow, that's looking good! The headlights, repeaters and rear lights are all a nice touch. Stance is perfect!
AZREALTOR
07-14-2018, 01:37 PM
What a great look! I love the theme you went with and look forward to seeing it finished.
This car drives very good!! Wife and i went to town to eat it rides softer than my mini, she went to sleep on way home.
Running very rich till tuned.
Was to get tuned thursday but alternator went bad, had to order parts. So week or so.
CVOBill
07-18-2018, 07:50 AM
Congrats the car looks great.
Video on facebook
Thomas H R Platter
For any one that would like to use the ford alternator, the alternator that is for automatic cars comes with solid pulley. When i was looking for a one ever one told me no!
Had family over and gave rides most of afternoon, any thing to go drive!
Built a over flow tank8937789378 The only place i had left to put any thing!
Have both outside and inside door handles working8937989380
Have 180 miles on car, more later.
Two things (alternator went out after new regulator. about 100 miles or so with gage fluxing. Will take back and find out the problem)
and ( the t56 reverse lockout module did not work right, put new one on and it worked then the module grounded, checked all wiring good so put a interrupting switch on shifter all's good.)
A note on rostra cruise control, with lockout wired in it would not set a cruise, after that uas out the cruise works very good.
I can not get the Speedhut gauges to set the warning lights or fuel gage to set right ohm. Anyone had this problem?
OK how many times do we have to read the instructions to get it right??
Only plug setting switch into left side of gage. I looked at the one that worked and it was on the left and others on right, sooo read instructions!
This is my reverse lockout, no more micro electrons. Just a push button to use with side of hand.89501
OK how many times do we have to read the instructions to get it right??
Only plug setting switch into left side of gage. I looked at the one that worked and it was on the left and others on right, sooo read instructions!Why would anyone read the instructions? Where is the challenge in that :)
As you all know i have permanent top, so would like windows to work good! That is harder to get than doors. Hours and have one that is fair, it is tight on top corners but not all the way, had to have runner to back of window then put spacers were window is bolted to works to get the top in. Pics later.
Looking forward to the pics, wrestling the same issues
Ok, the window work896478964889649 pics show door top aluminum with hagen wisker strips, all will be worked to fit door top.
The added runner in back89650
The washers used89651 as spacers, may need to take one or so out, you can use fender washers for thinner spacers.
The last pic shows front runner that i moved back so glass is full in runner,spacer between bracket and runner.89652
Whent to CHP and was told i had to go to BAR first before he could give VIN#. I have a problem with alternator charging, new regulator but no charge. Ford control pack with three wires to ford alt, worked to start then would over amp then quit. New regulator then would not hold steady amp and quit. I will check for damaged wires--then???
Coyote engine (2014) with ford control pack, and ford alternator that came with engine. Can anyone tell me what the three wires to alternator do? Or how to wire around the ECM?
Have new alternator good wires but no work!
SOOO the alternator went and welded together, belt gone. Bought new alternator for auto trans ( solid pulley) put it all on and did not work as we were looking for. Today called Ford Racing gave all info and was told to NOT plug in the three
wire alternator plug! sems to work but the pulley is smaller and i had the belt for clutch pulley , it ate belt, got hot and waited for son to get belt . Car back in shop. Will get a shorter belt tomorrow.
Had to take all the pulleys off and clean groves, full of belt! 3/4 shorter belt and just bat wire on alternator worked but would heat and pop 150 amp breaker , got new breaker and all working good!!
I have to go to a different CHP office to get VIN#. The one i went to the officer will not do the VIN because he says i have a race motor and not Ca. admission legal!! Wants nothing to do with BAR or SB100.
So DMV can't do my SB100 # without the VIN #.
I just keeped working with CHP and he went to DMV and got my SB100 number!
Off to AED to get the engine tuned, been running on a start up tune, so this should be fun.
437.5 hp on dino. RWH
Have to do work to get intake heat DOWN.
Need IRS boots, both outside boots came apart and made a hell of work!
Talk to FFR and was told that 2016 mustang should work. Ordered boots and axle nuts at ford. Cleaned grease. The outside axle CV comes off with hammer on inside part- spring clip.91711917129171391714
Ready for parts!
The 2016 mustang outer cv boots do not fit, to big.
Gromit
08-23-2018, 02:41 PM
Can't help with the boot size but I did recall seeing the CV boots fail on another IRS setup. Cross over to the 65 Coupe and look at what John George did on his white #48 He was suggesting putting Zip Ties in the groves of the boots. apparently they must expand at speed. about half way down on his site he shows the boot failure, temporary fix and the suggested fix.
http://www.johngeorgeracing.com/wordpress/2017/03/27/coupe-build-weekend-5-recap-and-vir-test/#more-1200
Hope that helps
Chris AKA Gromit
Found site that gave boots by size, ended up with boot for a toyota t-100. A.L.O. cv boot kit 1318 but was told they are out of business. Looked like GM K1500 or DODGE Ram 1500 maybe work, but did not have one to look at.
Built suicide door pins, no more worrying about doors coming open at any speed! 92066920679206892069920709207192072
Made my alinement time this time, i had it fair close but very much better now. So one more thing off the list.
Tom Veale
08-30-2018, 06:12 AM
Hi Tom, Re: Alignment............
What values did you end up using? Is yours Power Steering or Manual?
Thanks,
Tom
We used shelby-shelby R mustang values. Power steering, have 265/35/19 on front so need the power.
The person i used has been doing this for a lot of years on custom cars up to big rigs, an old time shop.
Worked on door tops & window, got one 95% done.9253992540925419254292543
Good day--got my certificate of sequence in the mail and went for a drive with wife. She was happy with the windows and ac working!
Will make appointment at BAR referee and see about my TIN (the chp would not do VIN until BAR approved engine)
Tom Veale
09-05-2018, 11:01 AM
Hi Tom, How's the fresh alignment feel on the road? I looked at the Cobra R numbers and they're not too far off of what I ended up using - other than Caster, since my car has manual steering.
Congratulations on the Wife Approval, too!
Tom V.
Put some miles and car is feels good, went to some corners and o'boy will need to work up to very fast!
Built hood hold downs, to replace faucet handles93199932009320193202!
H R Lucky
09-15-2018, 10:00 PM
How do they work?
I have spacers in body with a nut, handles screw in to hold hood tight down.9361493615
After a prelim at bar for them to say car would pass BAR if it had a VIN. Went and got VIN# today, officer Nokes was nice and we got done!!
Back to butte college tomorrow to get inspection done. After two & 1/2 months to get VIN , BAR tomorrow then brack & light on tuesday.
H R Lucky
09-19-2018, 09:19 PM
looks like they will work pretty well.
I just realized they are V8 emblems something like the old Ford V8 emblems, cool!
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Going to get light & brake to day then DMV. Had to get red tail lins- N0 blue dot in ca.
Bar went good, but the chp did not put number on paper work, soo on more trip to chp to get that. Then back to bar to final. It is a good drive.94288
Son and i have wanted to do tig so this was on sale94289 need a lot more work to have good weld!
duff33
09-28-2018, 02:13 PM
Nice welder, practice, practice, practice
Got some parts943189431994320 one standard other reverse.
Yes tig is going to be practice.
Want to get light & brake done on 4th-then get plates be for taking apart to work on this. I have over 1500 miles on permit.
Done with all the paper work, got light & brake done and went to dmv. Need to wait for them to send plates and pink in mail!!
CVOBill
10-03-2018, 07:26 AM
Congrats on getting through all of that. Ohio is so much easier. I had the inspection done, title and plates all in one day at the same location. I did have to go back to have the VIN plate installed 4-5 weeks later. But was legal to drive from the inspection date.
One thing was dmv did give me two sixty day permits, so i have over 1600 miles on car.
Now going to start on the turbo project!
Air to water intercoolers, witch companies make good ones? Looking at CR, but would like one about 4T x 10W x 8L + tank ends.
TxMike64
10-04-2018, 02:06 PM
You could find a used lower intake from a GT500 etc (supercharged coyote, with a built-in intercooler) then fab an upper with a small plenum and throttlebody (or buy one of the several available) that just bolts on top of the SC lower intake.
Or... MMR has a sheetmetal intake with a built-in intercooler - not a bad price either, considering.
Or... I think someone is making an intercooler to go inside the Holley Sniper intake - but I can't seem to find it right now.
Worked on taking front apart9467194672 more to take apart and then on to working out putting it together!
Intake off my A50XS947449474594746
Dlirium
10-08-2018, 09:37 AM
Intake off my A50XS947449474594746
I need to build something like this for my A52XS - can you tell me what the "oval to round" piece is that you use to attach to the intake? That seems to be the hard bit to find!
Thanks!
I built it out of a 5 inch cast 90. I am going to twin turbos so this intake will go to a new home. Good used is half of new!
The MAF housing is 123 mm.
OK going with boss intake for boost. Talked to tuner and they have been there and the cj does not play good with boost!
Dlirium
10-10-2018, 06:51 PM
I built it out of a 5 inch cast 90. I am going to twin turbos so this intake will go to a new home. Good used is half of new!
The MAF housing is 123 mm.
Excellent, thanks!
Dlirium
10-10-2018, 06:51 PM
I built it out of a 5 inch cast 90. I am going to twin turbos so this intake will go to a new home. Good used is half of new!
The MAF housing is 123 mm.
Excellent, thanks!
This project is taking more money & work than i planned on to start, yes-yes i know what is new about that! So any way i am going with AED on tuning and help with parts i need for this to work good! Have turbos, ordered air to water intercoolers and heat exchanger from C&R,will run two pumps so both coolers get the same water temp. still looking for stock boss intake and TB. Will move oil heater-cooler-filter from front to DS low firewall. Three inch exhaust to exit in front of rear fender, outside of running board. Well need to get some work done!
Well finally got some hot rod work done, weld bungs and turbo drain fittings on and pan back on.9598995990
Learning TIG and first time building headers with NO room is a challenge 9632596326
The two outsides go up and two inside go down.
Back to working on headers, i don't see any way to tack headers up with out being on engine in car! So will keep ground close to weld. But it does make me nervous.
erlihemi
11-12-2018, 05:40 PM
Hmmm. Maybe buy a spare chassis for mockup?? If your concerned about stray current put something like an inner tube or electrical tape between the header flange and the header and use fiberglass threaded rod for fasteners. Always ground on the tube your welding. Have someone else with a fire extinguisher nearby. I hate welding on the car. I have built Faux frames on Mopar K-frames to do headers, but, this is not an option here. This is the second thread I've seen a need for a thin wall front frame mock up on one of these. Maybe we could talk FFR into welding up a few mock up fronts for these and then once a few are out there we just post them for sale as we finish??
I have more parts and need to get to work, but it is soo smoky from the camp fire north of us that it is hard to go outside. I am sad for all the people in the fire it was so fast & hot. We have been in two floods and it takes a long time to get life back together!97533975349753597536
The heat exchanger will go in trunk, air to water coolers will go under front fenders.
erlihemi
11-15-2018, 02:41 PM
Nice. Having an ice chest in the trunk will keep those 33" Goodyear's hooked!! ;) Which Garrets did you go with??
New garrett G25-550, twins. Setting up for 1000 HP if i want to run methanol at some time, but will set for pump gas as this is a driver.
Takes a lot of work to make custom headers, but one is all most done.9804198042980439804498045
erlihemi
11-24-2018, 09:55 PM
My shoulder hurts just looking at those pics! The last set I did was quite awhile back. I chamfered the head side of the flange and swaged the tube into the chamfer to weld it and ground it flush. Never cracked or warped.
sturigus83
11-25-2018, 03:39 AM
I like the framing you did to your running boards no you can stand on them. I was thinking of doing the same thing because if you dont and someone steps on them they will crack. Good Job.
One side on to make sher things fit. Need to do a little work on other side.98640986419864298644
That is really looking awesome.
PS header done, had to make it tighter for ac & heater hoses.9871498715
Not perfect but i think they will do the job!
Will not done, need to put in wastegate pipe.
Worked on down pipe and was able to make them out of a 180, but did not have the right size pipe to work on wastegate.9875098751
Few can probably appreciate the effort you are putting in to this. Constructing your own headers is nothing short of badass. are you going to clock the output/cold side outlet and run it inside the engine compartment or are you going to run it straight to the intake/intercooler?
It will go down inside fender to air to water cooler then back into front of engine- we will see about how this go's !!
Where will the BOV be? Consider a Leash Boost Controller
Need to ask tuner about BOV placement, but in piping after tubes come together and be for intake.
At this time going with standard BOV.
Just thinking outloud, would be cool to have Turbo reversed so Downpipe is exiting rearward as a side pipe. That would bring the cold side to the front, out of the path of the heat. What you are doing is really exciting.
I am trying to keep it clean as possible, with full fenders and running boards it is a challenge!! No room and no room. Water to air coolers in side front fenders with heat exchanger and AC condenser
in the trunk, plus two not yet made fuel tanks under the top tank for more gas (we will not talk mileage) and to have weight lower.
Putting another 1&5/8 DOM safety tube from front to back of roll cage along seats.
Talked to tuner and BOVs will be at turbos. So will have all the goodes in one place.
Will it takes time to get the wastegate on, one of two done, now for the pipe to exhaust9888998890.
erlihemi
12-12-2018, 10:31 AM
Tom, Great packaging work! You may be inspiring some future turbo builds. I've been eyeballing those barrel style water to air intercoolers myself for a different project. You're going to have a fun ride next summer!
Got wastegate pipes done, not easy to get all three vband joints to line up. Looking on how much to cut out of side panel.99126991279912899129
Got the turbo oil drain lines made and on, then worked on ruff cutting side panels.99181991829918399184
Making headway hangers made and coolers on!9951499515TPlatter@comcast.net99516995179951899 519
Made my two to one intake with air straightener. Had to expand the tube (3 1/2 od and 31/2 id air straightener)to fit.996129961399614996159961699617
Pipes are almost done, need to build the MAF bracket yet. Then work on exhaust, take it apart and put back together for i hope the last time.9980199802998039980499805
So you are going to run a MAF? Do they have Speed Density Tuning for Fords?
This is the way my tuner has me set it up, MAF goes within 4 inches of air straightener. will put at 2 inches.
I am working with Shaun@aedhp.com.
I ran speed density tune, eliminating math, a little more difficult to tune precisely. I did not know if Fords had that option.
The tuning is over my head. I trust SHAUN@ AED and went with parts he works with!
Think i will go with cortex EBC boost controller, like the boost by gear and overall protection.
Lost my camra card so no pics. Have turbo piping done, now under car exhaust and( Race Mufflers) waiting on them . Fixed radiator moved inlet to off center a long time back had some pinholes from using wire welder, now have tig so weld and grind till i got the garbage out. Did some mods to the finder brace to get rid of nuts on inside., Made oil drain on oil filter( filter on top) to take oil to under car, no more oil on everything to change filter! Still don't know how i will finish the grill.
Looking to put air scop or other intake behind doors in front of rear fenders. My heat exchanger and AC condenser are in trunk with fans but need air entrance and some forced air.
Have not found any that will work, so will maybe make them. Any ideas?
Got moved out of house so they can do the remodel (been there and done that) let others do it. So i can go back to working on car, but my computer is dead, so no pics till new one.
Built a tube for lower radiator hose 101562101562101563 Haft to take left shock off and it goes in from bottom, two short hose's
Had to rework finder brace(had shim in) to get it all good. So got it put together and finders even and ruff fitting of turbo pipes.
Don't think it will stay together, it has to come all apart!101735101736101737
TxMike64
02-04-2019, 11:01 AM
That's going to look awesome!
This is how it will look, needed the room on bottom end of BOV to get put together. may make aluminum band to go around outside of cutout's.101764101765101766
Working on exhaust, three inch round to oval. Will exit in front of rear wheels.102237102238
Most of hoses and wires tied down, going from front to back.
This is the 3 inch pipe from flex to muffler on left side102449102450
goes inside frame.
+ Left side done from turbo to muffler and right side just needs welding.102523102524
erlihemi
02-21-2019, 10:25 AM
I'm officially jealous Tom!! looks great.
Got two of these made ,PS is on.103267103268
Goes out in front of rear tire, under boards.
I had some leaks in my one peace water line (some of my first tig welding) and it was to hard to git on and off. Fixed welding and added a hose, so now i can get it off and on, one from bottom other from top.103699103700103701
Built manifolds for inter cooler- turbo and wast-gate. The 3/4 will be on the psi side, the 1 inch will be the return.103895103896
Working slowly on pluming and pulling seats and water fall to get tank out. Going to make two tanks under top one and have to plum them up, so need to weld bungs into bottom outside of top tank. I am into cab so will put in more side protection.
working on making the door space stronger for others bumpers104490104491104492
Well have a hinged bar from this to a hinge that well be welded to front bar. will be about 25 inches off road.
Got the back bars welded and cleaned up104532104533104534
These will be the front hing, waiting for hinges for rear.
Done with bars104638104639104640104641104642
On to removing gas tank, and making two more to go under tank, have to plum all tanks together.
Had to put battery in to pump out tank, so i put oil in engine and turned it over for oil psi-- had leak at remote filter, yes hard to get at. Put new male fitting and hoses
on now all good.
Got tank out and put fittings on to go to new tanks-- because of roll cage had to cut part of bracket off to get out.104911 took pump out and resealed, will keep sender.
Worked on making new tanks, cardboard patterns, hoping to rearrange parts for other side.104912104913104914
Got the two tanks done-psi test to 20-, now need to get the pluming going.105486105487105488Seven to eight gallons each.
Ok this a little bigger than the other tank, but it is TEN usable gallons! So if we look at nine gallons each gives me eighteen gallons + top tank!
Extra weight is low and just in front of rear axle.105518105519105520
Got all fittings welded on tanks and 25 PSI tested. Hope to fix tanks in and get pluming done!
Tanks are in, and now to magic pluming! Takes more fittings to do three tanks.106084In , out vent and return. Using ptfe hose and fittings.
Had to make a header tank because the first way i was going to plume tanks did not work. 106372106373
Still learning to TIG, the first tank i used heaver aluminium and MIG welded then TIG for thinner, but the TIG would not work with MIG weld-bad things in weld.
Then cut that off and used 1/8 aluminium with TIG- but the eage that was plasma cut the TIG did not like! Yes-clean-clean!
12 an houses from top tank to the two bottom tanks.106375106376
Got the fuel pump mount made and pump on106390 With some other shots from under car.106391106392106393106394
Heat exchanger for air to water cooler and condenser for ac.106617106618
Mounted the water pumps for air to water cooler106619
TxMike64
05-02-2019, 09:56 AM
Great build! That's 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb bag!
Yes, some things like the drive line will be a lot of work to get off and on!
RBBJ 32 HOTROD
05-03-2019, 09:23 AM
Nice. I have a June 8th date. I have the rearend, picking up the engine and trans tomorrow. Excited to get building.
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What motor is that? Coyote 5.0 aluminator?
Well after some redo's got the in and out piping done. 106880106881106882106883
Now to get the filler tube and vents from tanks done.
Yes the back side looks off, but had them looking very good but hose ran into tank. Cut out with hole saw, could not weld next to heat exchanger so cut out and built up on back side then put in pipes and filled in holes!
Gas filler, i never liked the air vent-did not work! So with my two new tanks i put vents in all the tanks106978 looks good but did not like angles on fittings, so cut it up and remade it.106979106980 Fit's now and i have high hopes it will work!
Got the ac lines and wiring done, well check for leaks. The water lines for air to water coolers are are done and ready to check. working on last part of fuel line. So we are getting down to turbo speed , and cortex boost controller, need to run both inside cab. And one thing more to run to back, the fuel return line. Then putting car back together. Ready to get it tuned and see what we get!
Having some problems with my forgeline wheels and Michelin tires, they have very small leaks at bead. Had them to tire store and they used sealer on beads , but still leaks so called forgeline, said they had only 3 or 4 Michelin that had small rubber heirs on bead. If i send wheels and tires(bought both from forgeline) the fright is 285! They are looking for a shop in my area, well see about in the next day. Had trouble with turbo water line leak, ordered parts and will make my own.
This is what happens when you start thinking you are about to see the end! All good!
Fuel tanks and hoses good. Water hoses and cooler and heat exchanger good, have a little leak on made manifold- hope it will heal. Just need to put in fuse block for pumps, fans, working on cortex EBC boost controller.
Had to make a header tank because the first way i was going to plume tanks did not work. 106372106373
Still learning to TIG, the first tank i used heaver aluminium and MIG welded then TIG for thinner, but the TIG would not work with MIG weld-bad things in weld.
Then cut that off and used 1/8 aluminium with TIG- but the eage that was plasma cut the TIG did not like! Yes-clean-clean!
If you're still fighting porosity with the TIG, perhaps lightly sand and acetone wipe your filler rod, like you would the tank, to remove any additional oxides.
Working away on the little things--had one fuel leak show --and had the small water leak, it was not small to fix. Put in breaker and fuse panel in back for the pumps and fans, waiting on relay- run after for water pumps and fans on heat exchanger. was sent one for delay on!
working on belt path for more belt on alternator, i am using the ford alternator and with my fans and pumps need more belt on pulley- burnt belt!
The way i was going with belt had water pump going backwards. So went with bigger alternator pulley and smaller water pump pulley, went with eight rib so if in need to go that way i can.109321109323
Got fans and pumps and AC done109324 with delayed off.
Built Gage mount into dash and closed hole i was going to put glove box109326
Pulleys work good. After running for short time i have an oil leak at turbo oil return, will pull pan and fix. The other thing AC condenser fan spoon on shaft, new fan but i had it for long time, so need to get new one.
All leaks fixed ! Built skid pads for the door bars and inside door handles110220110221
Air cleaners and intake pipes110222110223[/ATTACH will build covers when i come up with a idea that does not look to bad. Had to build new mount for smaller fan for ac condenser.[ATTACH=CONFIG]110224[/ATTACH
Put heat block on intake after air coolers.[ATTACH=CONFIG]110225
Will call to get engine tuned, any one want to think about HP?
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Air scoops for heat exchanger in trunk.
Air duct from scoops to in back of heat exchanger. Had to make opening to see SB100 stamp.110591110592110593110594
Air scoops are done! Am looking to get car tuned after the 23rd, then put fenders and running boards back on. Engine runs at 1000 rpm so have been able to test things and fix, but looked like a good time to make sure all was good at 8000 rpm before covering up.110660110661110662110663
When i tried The hood, engine vent hit hood bracket hit so had to remake engine vent bracket.110831110832
Setup for tuning AED on 7/8, so we will see how my setup works!
TDSapp
07-29-2019, 12:55 PM
Setup for tuning AED on 7/8, so we will see how my setup works!
Is there a way you can teach me to go back in time so I can catch up on a few things the Hot Rod needs?
Ha Ha, if there is some changes or new things you want best get with it, the longer you wait the more things get in the way!
TDSapp
07-31-2019, 09:02 AM
Ha Ha, if there is some changes or new things you want best get with it, the longer you wait the more things get in the way!
I agree with you 100%... However, you posted on 7/27 that you had scheduled a tune on 7/8 and I was wondering how you could go back in time. That's a neat trick. ;)
OK my bad
Tuning will be 8/7
Workin on side panels to clean up around turbos.111658111659111660
660 hp and all is running in the sweet spot. No turbo lag! If i want more will need to go E85 or race gas, but i want to drive anywear i want to go so will stay with 91 pump gas, i am in ca.112048112049112050
Working on getting the front parts and fitting and sanding some. Going to have it on the road next week.112162112163112164
Phil2044
08-11-2019, 12:23 PM
What an amazing build! I'm in awe of your vision and skill to make the vision reality. Thank you for taking time to document your build, photograph the work, and share your thinking as you progress toward finishing the concept at hand.
All done for this year. Waiting for throttle body then on the road!112346112347CONFIG]112344[/ATTACH]112345
getting the chin to fit is no fun, had it ready long time before but had to do it again after some changes.
New throttle body but still have problem, if i move foot real slow it works but any more than that and i only have idle or wide open.
Any one ever had this?
Going to look at wires at foot pedal.
progmgr 1
I think the only way to get a stock bumper that fits our wider car is to cut it and add some in the middle, licence plate holder and such, or find two old one's and weld in then have it fitted to your taste.
As two the front bumper the stock one fit's with stock hardware. The mounts i made went on the fway bar from dan, then two fram.112504112505112506112507
I stayed with stock bumper that is short in back and made fenders wider. Did not have two old bumpers to cut and did not to cut my new one.112508
progmgr1
08-17-2019, 10:50 PM
I didn't realize you were using Dan's front sway bar. That answers the riddle of mounting the front bumper... Thanks for posting. Keith
crspdsk8
08-21-2019, 07:30 PM
Great looking build! What part of Sacramento are you in? I am in Antelope and also built a 33.
Their are a couple of us in the area and would be great to get everyone together at some local shows sometime.
I am just south of marysville, and would like to get together with the other 33 people. Still working out some bugs.
Still have not fixed throttle new throttle body and pedal, looking at wires. If any one has ideas on this let me know! Tuned and ready to go but no go.
Well it looks like the o2 sensor processor bank 1 is bad. That is P064D. That is where we-Ford performance and tuner got to. Must have not been careful one time when welding. So new PCM, that means the body must be up to get at pcm. Some of my work makes this more work but had to happen some time. Most of parts off, but getting the doors off with hinges is hard-how did FFR think we to get hinge bolts after car is done? Have parts but need to mod some things to make it easier next time.
Pulled body (not as bad as i thought) and will be modding some mods to make it easier. Now to check wires and PCM, put aproperit parts on then maybe a little test and put it together.113469113470113471113472
well no luck, after new PCM still has same problem ( slow pedal works but blip it and no throttle ). But the P064D code is no more. Will be with Ford Performance on tuesday. I am thinking it maybe could be something in tune, so will go down that path.
OK will not get in trouble this holiday!
We are out of ideas, it seems to be cutting fuel off when throttle is moved fast but works when done slow??
Tuner has been working on tune and it works! Just needs some fine work.
With the body off doing some fixing to make it easier next time. I did not get the window wipers to work right first time ( angle not right). It is more work to get shaft
close to right angel to window, using the under dash dual wipers. Pics tomorrow.
I will say this is getting to the performance hot rod i was looking for!
Body off changed clutch master from 3/4 to 7/8 works good. Tilton 6000 oil bearing.
By the time i made the wipers work i did not like them. Removed them and will go with a unit that fits with roll cage at top.
The driver side turbo was not draining to good, so had to put oil pump on turbo drains.114633114634
Works good. Now there is no room for any thing and i don't want any!
The pump i used is from Motion Raceworks--Turbowerx scavenge pump #Twx-200m-12v
What high back seats are people using? I have to build head rest or get high back seats.
The optional Kirkey seats that FFR sells with the kit work for me.
I have car on the road, and it is the HOT ROD i had in mind! But i can't keep a alternator working, it is the one that comes with the engine and running backwards that should not make any difference. Talked to ford performance and do not use the gen wires in the control pack! Use it as one wire.
So if anyone has ideas let me know.
peterh226
09-22-2019, 06:17 PM
I have the high Kirkeys as I wanted the head support as well. 114712 this is mounted on some pretty tall mounts and sliders.
Looking at Kirkey 65 series, can any give me an idea how these are for driving. They look good but i will be driving my car and want to be pretty comfy.
The Kirkey seats are not what most would call "comfortable", at least not compared to bucket seats in most modern factory built cars. I wouldn't even compare them to something from the 60's as far as comfort goes. But they do provide support in a thin package and that's important for one of these small cars where it's difficult to find enough room to fit things.
You could play with seat angles, widths, and even custom formed padding and improve on the comfort but I doubt you can make any racing seat as comfortable for long drives as a more bulky factory style seat designed with comfort a priority over size and weight.
progmgr1
09-23-2019, 05:02 PM
I have car on the road, and it is the HOT ROD i had in mind! But i can't keep a alternator working, it is the one that comes with the engine and running backwards that should not make any difference. Talked to ford performance and do not use the gen wires in the control pack! Use it as one wire.
So if anyone has ideas let me know.
My understanding is that running the stock part backwards IS the reason you keep burning up alternators. According to the FFR Coyote Installation Instructions, most alternators have an internal cooling fan with curved blades. When the Ford alternator is spun counter-clockwise these fan blades are very efficient at pulling cooling air in. When you spin the alt clockwise, these blades are very inefficient at pushing air through the alt, and is prone to overheating for that reason. The Honda alt that FFR recommends is designed to spin clockwise so it doesn't have that problem. If you need more juice than the Honda produces, you'll have to do some research to find another alternator that is designed to spin clockwise.
HTH,
Keith
If you want to stay with the current style alternator you might want to check out the Chevy Corvair alternator fan if you need reverse rotation. Perhaps another possibility is a fan (or alternator) designed for a reverse rotation marine engine. Or aircraft alternator fan for reverse direction but now were likely taking serious $$ unless you get a salvage fan to fit.
I called two main companies about the alternator and got back that it is the fan , but no fans that would work my problem. Found some interesting alternators but not high amp or not high RPM or to big. So went back to the bench to see what i could be done to the one i had. The pulley side internal fan was making turbulent air so off with it, rear fan bent fines neutral angel to push air out. Then my son wired an outside regulator (old ford) up so as to get it away from alternator( as that is what has been going bad) Put it all back together and put over 100 miles on car and working good!
I am in LOVE, driving this car is just to much FUN! The first gas mileage check at 200 looks to be 13 .5, so will be good for 300 before looking for gas. That is every thing from spinning to 2k cruise.
With external regulator under car in wind, still going out! No problem with alternator . Any one know what would be causing this , one wire per ford performance with external regulator so not in heat.
TxMike64
10-30-2019, 10:49 AM
Is the alt grounded well? Do you have a ground strap from the engine to the chassis?
Yes and yes.
Looks like whatever it is that the regulator is overloaded, so i am going to put two rege's together and see if they will last two times as long?
This is the bracket and two regulator setup. As of now it is working!117001117002117003
Been putting more miles on car, fixing some body cracks ( when you chop and cut & shape parts need to run them and see how things turn out). Dam fun !
On the same note has any one had problems with the gas cap leaking? I have welded on it so may have made the problem, but it leakes so will have to think and work on that.
Over three thousand miles on car and more!
When i have time to work on car i would rather go for a drive--so i do!
Have blowby and noise front PS, going to pull and send out. Not fun! I am thinking rings or piston or both.
Well i have got this far, a lot of wires and all the pieces i made.118632118632
I Am going to paint car, it will be apart, don't want to take it apart any more.
TxMike64
12-11-2019, 03:03 PM
Wow! That's 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag!
This is going real slow. With a fender car FFR made it a lot of work to pull engine, and some of my mods don't help. Was going to just pull engine (and it would work) but the rear seal was leaking so going to pull all. The water lines and fuel lines are not helping and trans tunnel is going to get changed. Dam more work to build some new parts.
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Not good. Looks as i had something in fuel line after filter that leaned out two cylinders, have not got injectors back yet.
This lead to more engine damage.
AED is building me an engine at this time.
Injectors are all good---- I am at a loss as to way these went lean.
I'd be looking in the tune, do they log the tunes for those motors?
Putting in seats. This is what i came up with to brace top back of seat.130039130040130041130042130043130044130045
no pics of the bottom bolts but had to make brackets for fram, pain in the ***, Do the seats you want first so you can do brackets first, after no room, no room.
ON new engine we are waiting on new piston oil squirters national back order.
The AC vents that came with unit came apart. So i got aluminium ones that go with dash, turns out they are not the same size. Had to make donuts for DS and med and weld & grind for PS in curve.130595130596130597130598
Pics of my new engine are on AED facebook.
shmelty
07-01-2020, 01:33 PM
Do you have a link for the Facebook page?
https://www.facebook.com/AED-Tuning-108053219535234/
Any one have info on Killer Chiller water cooler for air to water intercoolers?
Time to put car back together, with some mods.131386131387
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Hope to put in tomorrow.
With help from my son and a friend we got the engine and trans in put together! Lot of work with all the wires and parts.131702131703
Headers and turbos and plumbing next.
Headers with stage8 bolts and locks, turbo parts- getting four V bands that have no give to line up is fun! Need one more oring to put the rest together.
Then intercooler131914131915 water pluming.
Ever thing engine wise is done, and primed engine with turbo oil line.132001132002132003
Talked to the killer chiller person and should have the unit end of next week, i hope!
Went to bleed clutch and can't get to pump up. Perty new but been undone for six months, any ideas?