Building a Factory Five 818C on SPIKE TV Sunday 4/10 8:30 CST

[MPTech]

I'm an FFR Fan, like all of their cars :D (and built my MK4 a couple years ago).

If this was already posted, my apologies.
Just saw: Spike TV Sunday 4/10 @ 8:30 CST - Engine Power: "Mid-Engine Madness: Building a factory Five 818C"

enjoy ;)

[no tread tommyg]

Nice! Found it.

9:30am PST
Time Warner
DVR set!

[wleehendrick]

Excellent... the description says it has the EcoBoost:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52502&d=1460044418
52502

[longislandwrx]

nice
thanks for the post.

[6t8dart]

awesome, i already have it set to record.

[AZPete]

Got it. Thanks!

[Dave Smith]

This weekend on "Engine Power," the Factory Five crew will be building the first EcoBoost-powered 818C. Ford's 310 HP 4-cylinder EcoBoost engine is standard in the Ford Mustang, and we got one of the first aftermarket engines to drop into our newest Factory Five 818 Coupe. The episode debuts this Sunday, April 10th, at 9:30 AM ET/PT on Spike TV.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGZUeZY2Po
Factory Five President Dave Smith introduces the EcoBoost 818 concept with PowerNation host Courtney Hansen.

[Dave Smith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqd1L011Z8
PowerNation’s newest hostess Katie Osborne describes this weekend line-up.

[07FIREBLADE]

Interesting episode so far. Wish it was made prior to getting my car though. Might of saved a few headaches and a whole bunch of time. Oh well at least my stroker 2.2 makes more power and its subie power.

[edwardb]

Recorded the episode and watched it early this afternoon. Once again, they make it look so easy! Never any fitment issues, do-overs, or forum searches. Seriously though, I was under the impression using the Ford EcoBoost was an R&D project that required some modifications. The show made it sound like it's an available option, but it's not listed on the order form yet. Could be interesting for me compared to the whole Subaru thing. I guess we'll have to see what happens next. I was a little disappointed they didn't drive it at the end.

[lance corsi]

Yea, I watched it too. They didn't show anyone entering or exiting the car with the top on! Also they made reference to quite a few things that were options when I ordered my car, as supplied with the kit. Wonder if I'm the only one who noticed. Coolant lines running the length of the side sails were different. Overall I liked the show, but it makes me look like a schmuck, since I've got over 500 hours into my build, while theirs was built in only 30 minutes. Including breaks!

[Samiam1017]

According to the show the kit comes with quite a bit more stuff. Must cost a lot more for the ford option

[Solidworks-Mike]

For those of us who missed it, looks like it will be available online next week:

http://www.powernationtv.com/episode/EP2016-08/mid-engine-madness-building-a-factory-five-818c

[07FIREBLADE]

I noticed quite a few little things in the episode that they mentioned. I didn't want to make many comments about them though unless others caught them too.

[Aero STI]

I watched it. This show is part of my regular "car shows" DVR folder. Aesthetically the car turned out great. The AWIC setup was unique. With that said, the power and torque they got could have easily been achieved with an EJ for half the cost. That engine setup, transmission adapter, harness, etc. would cost a regular person so much money.

The show car appeared to have headlight lenses. I wish FFR could get those figured out already. I'm still waiting for my new nose that I paid in full for 4 months ago! :rolleyes:

[07FIREBLADE]

You haven't gotten yours yet? At least you didn't have to figure out shipping to SoCal that was a mission and I'm still missing a few parts.

[lance corsi]

I watched it. This show is part of my regular "car shows" DVR folder. Aesthetically the car turned out great. The AWIC setup was unique. With that said, the power and torque they got could have easily been achieved with an EJ for half the cost. That engine setup, transmission adapter, harness, etc. would cost a regular person so much money.

The show car appeared to have headlight lenses. I wish FFR could get those figured out already. I'm still waiting for my new nose that I paid in full for 4 months ago! :rolleyes:

Don't feel bad, I'm still waiting for parts too. 6 months for me!

[longislandwrx]

I was under the impression using the Ford EcoBoost was an R&D project that required some modifications. The show made it sound like it's an available option, but it's not listed on the order form yet.

+1 You can't even get the 2.3L from Ford performance yet... The 2.0 ecoboost is 8000msrp + 1900 for the control pack. I have to guess the 2.3 is a $12000 package when its available.

[Bruce Almighty]

I'm glad I finally got to see the show. I would have liked a more torought description of the does and dont.... Maybe the could have rebuild a subaru engine !!!
They always talk about a donor, but judging by the small amount of donor they used (suspension, radiator, transmission...), they could have bought the seperate parts at a junk yard.

I dont know if that show is all we will see, but I relish for more :confused:

I'm planing to be at the open house on the 4th of June to get some more info before I plunge itno the adventure.

[FFRSpec72]

+1 You can't even get the 2.3L from Ford performance yet... The 2.0 ecoboost is 8000msrp + 1900 for the control pack. I have to guess the 2.3 is a $12000 package when its available.

The Coyote package is also 12K (engine plus, engine control), if I could get the RS 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine (350hp) with transaxle and engine management for 12K it would be well worth it

[STiPWRD]

I really enjoyed the show and I think it'll do a lot for the marketing and bringing in new builders that hadn't seen the 818 before. I did notice a few rivnuts when they were showing the chassis in the beginning, which makes me think they test fit the body before hand. Overall, it was nice for the 818 to get some national attention.


You haven't gotten yours yet? At least you didn't have to figure out shipping to SoCal that was a mission and I'm still missing a few parts.
I've also been waiting 4 months and counting.

[Mechie3]

Mine either shipped Friday or Today. We'll see what comes in it.

[edwardb]

The Coyote package is also 12K (engine plus, engine control), if I could get the RS 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine (350hp) with transaxle and engine management for 12K it would be well worth it

They're also highly discounted. A 2015-2016 Coyote package (engine, controls, covers, alternator, starter) is available in the $9k range shipped to your door. If you add the rest (bell housing, clutch, transmission, etc,) then yes it's around $12K.

[6t8dart]

I really enjoyed the show and I think it'll do a lot for the marketing and bringing in new builders that hadn't seen the 818 before. I did notice a few rivnuts when they were showing the chassis in the beginning, which makes me think they test fit the body before hand. Overall, it was nice for the 818 to get some national attention.


I've also been waiting 4 months and counting.

I noticed that a lot of parts were pre-assembled, and made into sub assemblies, it looked like they bolted together a previously built car that they took apart. I understand its a TV show, but they should inform the consumer on realistic assembly time and work.

[longislandwrx]

The Coyote package is also 12K (engine plus, engine control), if I could get the RS 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine (350hp) with transaxle and engine management for 12K it would be well worth it

as far as I know it still ran the Subaru transmission with an adapter. someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[wallace18]

as far as I know it still ran the Subaru transmission with an adapter. someone correct me if I'm wrong.

It is an STI trans.

[flynntuna]

I noticed that a lot of parts were pre-assembled, and made into sub assemblies, it looked like they bolted together a previously built car that they took apart. I understand its a TV show, but they should inform the consumer on realistic assembly time and work.

Of course they bolted a previously built car, they had 5 days to film the assembly of the car. Who knows how many takes it took to get each segment right. What I'd like to see is the raw footage , (it's got to be a min of 50 hrs of tape) . Love to see a blooper reel. :p.

I hope they bring this car to Huntington Beach.

Has anyone mounted the under car panels like they did on the Show?

[edwardb]

I noticed that a lot of parts were pre-assembled, and made into sub assemblies, it looked like they bolted together a previously built car that they took apart. I understand its a TV show, but they should inform the consumer on realistic assembly time and work.

Other of the FF build shows have been the same. Rolling in fully built axle assemblies, front suspensions, assembled and wired dash, pre-painted body, etc. Given the limited time for a half-hour show plus probably only several days of production, probably about what to expect.

[longislandwrx]

Lol I just watched it.

Man they are drowning in the Kool-Aid.

The ease of fitment was deceiving although at the end they did mention 6 guys and 5 days.


"FFR provides this tilt column"... ha nope
"FFR provides the chassis wiring"... ha nope

there were more but those were quick to mind.

It makes sense though. I guess this will be an option one day for a Ford build. Don't use Subaru column, no proprietary connectors = plug and play Painless? harness. they also showed the universal in dash ignition and switch panel.






Granted I love this car but it was REALLY oversimplified. Glad to see the car getting more press. More sales, more development, more options.

[lance corsi]

Lol I just watched it.

Man they are drowning in the Kool-Aid.

The ease of fitment was deceiving although at the end they did mention 6 guys and 5 days.


"FFR provides this tilt column"... ha nope
"FFR provides the chassis wiring"... ha nope

there were more but those were quick to mind.

Granted I love this car but it was REALLY oversimplified.

They also need to fix the Wildwood brake reservoir discrepancy! I only received 1 for all 3 master cyls. The other 2 were supplied by FFR but they cost me $43 each! Just like most other things referred to as " supplied by FFR. Supplied by doesn't necessarily mean included with the kit. Frown.

[spaceywilly]

I noticed that a lot of parts were pre-assembled, and made into sub assemblies, it looked like they bolted together a previously built car that they took apart. I understand its a TV show, but they should inform the consumer on realistic assembly time and work.

I would hope that anyone who is seriously considering building one would do a little more research than just watching this show. There's sort of an unspoken rule on these shows that they are glossing over a lot of things to keep the show moving. I thought the show gave a good high level overview of the car and the build process. These shows are usually just giant commercials so they won't say anything negative about the products they feature anyways. I'm sure Ford also threw them some money for singing the praises of the ecoboost. They know where the bread gets buttered.

[07FIREBLADE]

Lol I just watched it.

Man they are drowning in the Kool-Aid.

The ease of fitment was deceiving although at the end they did mention 6 guys and 5 days.


"FFR provides this tilt column"... ha nope
"FFR provides the chassis wiring"... ha nope

there were more but those were quick to mind.

It makes sense though. I guess this will be an option one day for a Ford build. Don't use Subaru column, no proprietary connectors = plug and play Painless? harness. they also showed the universal in dash ignition and switch panel.






Granted I love this car but it was REALLY oversimplified.

They do provide the wiring. The 4 wire trailer wiring is provided with every kit. They used it throughout the show and you can see it connecting the fuel pump also the headlights. Looks like a Ron Francis wiring kit. "OEM" quality.... Haha I don't know how many manufactures use uninsulated crimp connectors for their cars. How many people use corrugated wire insulation and leave all your power wires bundled together down a center console. I love how the hardest part of the build is the disassembly of the donor which wasn't even used in this build. Let's be real for the amount of used parts they should of just bought new or junk yard. Don't even get me started on the body panels. How can they get things fitted perfectly for this car and send out different length fenders for their customers.

This rant needs to bottle up some more for HB. I'm done now. Rant off

[Loring]

I got a kick of how they said everything fits together perfectly. Nothing on my frame was given the tolerance for the powdercoating, which means I'm using my 'big persuader' to get it all together, including the front control arms which they showed while making that statement.

Eh, commercials. I hope FFR sells some kits as a result.

[D2W]

I like how the hosts go on and on about how it only weighs 1800 lbs, and the FFR guys all stand there with a blank look on their faces knowing that 1800 isn't realistic. Has anybody actually made one that was even in the 1800's? I love marketing, just lie your *** off and see if anybody calls you on it.

[STiPWRD]

I like how the hosts go on and on about how it only weighs 1800 lbs, and the FFR guys all stand there with a blank look on their faces knowing that 1800 isn't realistic. Has anybody actually made one that was even in the 1800's? I love marketing, just lie your *** off and see if anybody calls you on it.

It's certainly possible to get to 1800 lbs. The 818 that FFR unveiled in 2013 weighed 1828 lbs, check the video at 7:40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnT-JBjjNBg

There's another thread tracking finished weights here:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?20190-Post-Your-Weights

[Loring]

818kg is the "target weight". I would imagine it's pretty easy to get it that low. The coupe, maybe not so much.