View Full Version : Coil and Starter solenoid placement
NICK C
11-28-2015, 09:35 AM
This may be in an older thread, but I would like some pics of where people have placed there coils and and starter solenoids. I'm running a 429 with a Mass Flo efi system and am looking to minimize wire clutter. If anyone is using a Mass Flo system those pics would really help. Thanks. Nick
michael everson
11-28-2015, 09:46 AM
If your starter has a solenoid on it, then eliminate the other one. Lots of people mount the coil on the driver side front of the engine. I have also mounted it on the firewall.
Mike
NICK C
11-29-2015, 01:58 PM
Thanks Mike.
Avalanche325
11-29-2015, 10:10 PM
Coil on the front of the engine.
Solenoid in the garbage can. Use a started with one.
NICK C
11-29-2015, 10:51 PM
I'm somewhat confused. My mini starter has a large and small terminal. I've looked at different wiring diagrams which show using the remote ( Ford ) solenoid and starter with solenoid together. I'm using a Ron Francis harness. I'll look at my instructions again as I may have missed something. If I wire without the remote solenoid do I connect pos battery to the large and ignition wire to small?
NICK C
11-29-2015, 11:48 PM
As I do a little more research it may turn out that what I thought is a solenoid on the starter may in fact be part of the configuration of a reduction starter. I'll find out from Summit. Thanks guys
smithbks
11-30-2015, 09:39 AM
Lots of folks use both the solenoid and the mini-starter. I did as well. It may be redundant, but the solenoid on the firewall gives me additional ease of access and, conveniently, a charging source for my battery because I have the FFMetals trunk box that is not easy to get to.
There are lots of articles on using one or both I recommend you read. I spent hours researching it and I think the conclusion is a very non-satisfying either is fine!
Avalanche325
11-30-2015, 07:15 PM
If you look at the way FFR says to do it for a reduction starter, you are not actually using the solenoid. It is just used as a terminal block.
Either will work. However, every component and connection is a potential point of failure. Keep that number as low as possible. Relays and connections do not fall into the "more is Better" category. Adding in a solenoid adds 5 failure points just on the load circuit. Wire to lug, lug to terminal, the solenoid itself, terminal to lug, lug to wire.
NICK C
11-30-2015, 09:13 PM
Thanks Smithbks. I too have the FFMetals box and was going to use external jumper buttons. Avalanche, I was also concerned about redundancy in wiring for potential points of failure. Thanks gentlemen.
cgundermann
12-01-2015, 12:06 AM
I have a mini-starter and not using a solenoid (mini-bus on the firewall and FFMetal's box). Coil mounted on driver's side top frame rail 90 degrees off of distributor.
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frankeeski
12-01-2015, 01:00 AM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa78/frankeeski/upside%20down%20cat_zpsa4nstxwi.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/frankeeski/media/upside%20down%20cat_zpsa4nstxwi.jpg.html)
NICK C
12-01-2015, 10:12 PM
Thanks cgundermann.