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Pierre B
05-17-2011, 08:28 AM
This caution comes to me from my past experience with a fiberglass-bodied 1907 Lotus Europa I had repainted. Admittedly, the Lotus fiberglass was thinner and more frail than what we have on our FFRs. But still, this fender precaution is even standard procedure in high end shops that modify 911 Porsches with fiberglass fender flares.

With the Lotus, rock hits to the underside of the fender fiberglass resulted in stars in the car's paint finish. Not good. On my MKII, I lined the underside of the fiberglass in the fender wells with foam padding. The Porsche shops I mention above typically use neoprene, but I wanted something less expensive. Camping supply stores (like LL Bean, Eastern Mountain Sports, etc.) sell foam ground mats (about 3/8-inch thick) for campers to place under their sleeping bags. I bought two for I think about $8.00 each. One of these will do both a front and rear well. Trimming is easy, since it is done in place in the actual wheel well from beneath the car. The mat is first cut to length, then pressed into the well and marked with a felt-tipped pen. Cutting and trimming is easy. I secured the pads with silicone, using about half a cartridge on each fender pad. Once pressed into place, the pads tend to stay in place until the sealant sets up. The final touches involved running a bead of silicone around the outer edge of the pads so they won't start to pick off later, then painting the padding black. Done. Now that I think of it, I may have used urethane sealant instead of silicone, since I had no problem getting the black paint (SEM from NAPA) to adhere to the sealant. Result-no stars! One last parting thought: I did this during the original build, so everything was clean under the fenders. Retrofitting is easy, but make sure to clean the underside of fiberglass first. I guess some of us may have used truck bed liner for the same purpose, but I have had no experience with that material.

MPTech
05-17-2011, 10:49 AM
Good suggestion, I've been thinking about lining the fenders with something more substantial than the truck bed liner and this sounds like a good recommendation.

One of my Cobra buddies completed his FFR about 2 years ago and right after he had it painted a rock starred the front fender. Almost made him cry!

AZPete
05-17-2011, 12:01 PM
Pierre, you must have posted this tip years ago because I did exactly what you described except I used a rubberized undercoating to adhere the pad and then sprayed more undercoating over the pad. Drove my MK3 9,000 miles in 2 years and the pad stayed in place - and no stars in the paint. Thanks, Pierre.
Pete

Dean
05-17-2011, 12:27 PM
Just was talking to my body guys this AM about this topic. Their suggestion was Dynamat after an adhesion enhancer (3M I believe).

Rscocca
05-17-2011, 06:27 PM
I ordered and have great praise for the set I recieved from Alex at Alex's custom interiors.
They are cut to order and fit real nice.

Pierre B
05-17-2011, 06:53 PM
I forgot to note above that after over 11,000 miles of travel, I haven't gotton so much as a stone-caused blemish on any of my fenders, and the foam is very much intact and tightly adhered. In other words, the stones that the tires kick up are not causing any foam deterioration at all.

DougR
05-18-2011, 07:19 PM
Sure wish I would have done this on my car. About a year and a half ago while at Willow Springs in a NASA event I went thru turn 1 after another car had gone off track and spewed rocks all over the turn. I now have stars on both the front and rear fenders. I was really upset but what's a guy to do. An ounce of protection is called for in these situations.

teebee9320
05-19-2011, 05:57 AM
Any advantages to this over a good truck bed liner? Has anybody gotten stars with the truck bed liner? because before this that was my planned approach....

bil1024
05-19-2011, 10:07 AM
I used the trunck bed liner, and had no issues

trublue
05-22-2011, 07:35 AM
A former instructor at the Build School (Mott College) strongly recommended using a protective coating in the fender wells. I asked my paint and body man to apply a bedliner for protection when he was prepping and painting the roadster. He recommended we apply a spongier agent used for rocker panels instead of a bedliner. He explained that the bedliner dries very hard and would transmit force to the painted body and produce the dreaded stars. The softer rocker panel spray(available in a spray can) from an auto supplier, would better cushion the impact and prevent stars. After 4 years of use on paved and rocky dirt roads the fenders are still pristine. I don't remember the name of the product they used, but it was "rubberized".

AC Bill
05-22-2011, 10:23 AM
trublue, perhaps this is the product that was used?

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=66666UuZjcFSLXTt48TyoXMyEVuQE cuZgVs6EVs6E666666--&fn=DFU%2005910.pdf

FritoBandito
05-22-2011, 12:38 PM
Isn't there a vendor who sells wheel well liners made from ABS plastic?
These http://acroadsterinteriors.com/Fenderliners.html
Seems like those would work pretty well. Or do they not cover the entire thing?