Who are the proud 20th Anniversary Kit Owners?

[RRussellTx]

I think this represents 11 of the 20:

001 - The Original Raffle Car
002 - BobCarter - Springfield, MO
003 - edwardb - #8674 - Lake Orion, MI
004 - ThickCobra #8658 - Kenosha County, WI
005 - SlowLeak - #8685 - Verona, WI
008 - BadAsp427 - #8690 - Summerville, SC
009 - Paul_M - Briarcliff Manor, NY
010 - RRussellTx - #8697 - Parker, TX
015 - Railroad - Heart of Dixie
018 - RR20AC - Puyallup, WA
020 - RLKfarmboy - Central Ohio

plus a prototype version for Dave's son Adam

Who else is out there

[RR20AC]

RR20AC gets a delivery in November!

[edwardb]

Great idea! I'll be watching. I'm interested too.

[RRussellTx]

Thanks RR20AC - I updated the original post to include you. EdwardB should have the build well documented for us by the time you get your kit. We are lucky to have him lead the way!

[SlowLeak]

I have #005. Delivered 8/15/15. #8685 Verona, WI

[ThickCobra]

Mine is scheduled for delivery this Wednesday. I dont know what the number assigned to it is but will post it when I know. I will also take plenty of pics and post a few when I figure out how to do it. And, if I have permission. BTW... I am really pumped.

[David Hodgkins]

The one Dave is setting aside for Adam is the prototype and is not one of the twenty.

I was "working" at FFR that Friday before open house - hanging out and answering phones while everyone set up - and spoke to a few of you who were ordering, which I believe includes edwardb. At the time I thought I had some time to order one because they were going to go to existing customers only. Then Dave walked in and said sell 'em to anyone and by the end of the first day, over half were sold. they were gone within a day or two after that.

My brother has a 15 year car as you may know and I believe it's something special and yes, will be collectible some day. You guys are a lucky bunch.

:)

[edwardb]

I was "working" at FFR that Friday before open house - hanging out and answering phones while everyone set up - and spoke to a few of you who were ordering, which I believe includes edwardb.

Yes you did! You made me wait on hold for over 30 minutes. :p Seriously though, it was my choice to wait and it was worth it. I was at a rest stop off the New York State Thruway on my way to the FFR Open House. I wasn't leaving until my anniversary Roadster was ordered.

[Gumball]

I have #005. Delivered 8/15/15. #8685 Verona, WI

I may be heading up your way with 7074 some nice fall weekend - would be happy to drop in so you could show family / neighbors a finished one.

PM me if you'd like.

[Georg]

Mine is completed on 22nd of August and still waiting in the crate for pick up. Working still on a solution to get it to my home in China. Import regulations are getting really taff and me very frustrated. Hope I don't have to look for a place for long term storage in the US... :-((

Sorry to FFR for the delay...

Georg

[RRussellTx]

ThickCobra - did you get your kit? If so, where are the pics and what #of20 are you?

Mine was completed on 8/22 and is on a Stewart truck headed this way. It was supposed to be here today but the truck had 'issues' and is now scheduled for Friday. Fingers crossed...

[ThickCobra]

RRussellTx,

My car was completed 8/1 and was delivered by Stewart, as promised Wednesday, September 2. Very exciting day. I don't quite understand the numbering system, but the front factory tag reads # 105956. Also, not certain where this sits in the 1-20 count. And, yes, I have a some pics and will try to attach a few. I am still new to the forum so I may not have pic privileges yet. But, I'll try.

And, I will chime in that it is great having Edwardb providing build progress, as I refer to them regularly. Working thru some of his tips will certainly save me time, but more importantly rework. As I loaded the car up with almost every option, I'll need all the advice I can get.

While I'm at it here, the powder coated DS footbox front panel doesn't appear to match up with the frame. The panel accompanying the wilwood pedal box does, but isn't powder coated. Anybody, thoughts?

[edwardb]

RRussellTx,

My car was completed 8/1 and was delivered by Stewart, as promised Wednesday, September 2. Very exciting day. I don't quite understand the numbering system, but the front factory tag reads # 105956. Also, not certain where this sits in the 1-20 count. And, yes, I have a some pics and will try to attach a few. I am still new to the forum so I may not have pic privileges yet. But, I'll try.

And, I will chime in that it is great having Edwardb providing build progress, as I refer to them regularly. Working thru some of his tips will certainly save me time, but more importantly rework. As I loaded the car up with almost every option, I'll need all the advice I can get.

While I'm at it here, the powder coated DS footbox front panel doesn't appear to match up with the frame. The panel accompanying the wilwood pedal box does, but isn't powder coated. Anybody, thoughts?

The tag number on the front of your car is the sales order number. Your chassis number should be on the paperwork somewhere, and you will receive a serial number tag and MSO with your chassis number probably pretty soon. In the meantime, if you look on the 2 x 2 inch tube along the bottom of the dash -- about where your left knee would be sitting in the driver's seat -- you should see an engraved number. It should be obvious because they mask the powder coat away from it. That's your chassis number. Starts with "F5R." The last four digits are the build sequence number, and the ones most use referring to their car. Mine is #8674, for example. For your count in the 1-20, this too I recall was somewhere in the delivery paperwork. At the very least, the guys on the dock knew what mine was when I picked it up. But you can tell real easily. Look at your gauges. They have your number on each face. Mine is 003. For the powder coated DS footbox front panel, I agree. Seems FF did the white powder coat on the wrong one. There are two versions of the DS footbox front panel. One for the Wilwood box. It only has one large opening in the middle for the steering column, and the clutch cable is on the outside edge. The other front panel is for a Mustang pedal box and has two large openings. One for the steering column and one for the brake master cylinder. And the clutch cable is on the inside edge. Unfortunately, the anniversary kit has the Wilwood pedal box standard, but they powder coated the donor panel. I wouldn't hesitate to contact FF if you want them to fix it. They should. I'm actually going to be replacing a number of the engine compartment panels because I'm using the King modified panels to better fit the Coyote. So I'm going to have some new powder coating anyway. It won't be a big deal to get the right front panel coated. I just hope they can reasonably match the white panels FF provided because I still will be using a bunch of them.

Glad my thread is useful! I'm still anxiously waiting for some pretty important parts, plus have been on a family trip. But making some progress and will be posting another update in the next day or two.

[ThickCobra]

Thanks for the feedback. As I was reading your response, Tony from FFR emailed me that they powder coated the wrong foot box panel and would be sending me the correct panel shortly. I will be very interested to see how close you come to matching the white powder coat panels. It would nice if they would share the color code. Also, I just checked the frame and we have #8658 and 004 on the guages and paperwork. Nice to know.

[David Hodgkins]

Georg if you can't work out the details and need to give up the kit, let me know. I'd sell my first build to do another Anniversary car. We could work out the details with FFR...

edwardb, the FFR stamped ID actually begins F5R, not FFR... :)

:)

[edwardb]

Thanks for the feedback. As I was reading your response, Tony from FFR emailed me that they powder coated the wrong foot box panel and would be sending me the correct panel shortly. I will be very interested to see how close you come to matching the white powder coat panels. It would nice if they would share the color code. Also, I just checked the frame and we have #8658 and 004 on the guages and paperwork. Nice to know.

Speaking of white powder coat, I remembered one other thing. When I did my inventory, I found that FF didn't powder coat the cover for the DS footbox. There's an access hole on the top inside panel on the DS footbox. Intended to allow easier access to the Wilwood MC's and other stuff under there. It was a mod many added to their builds, and FF made it standard for Mk4's at some point. My earlier Mk4 (#7750) didn't come with it. Anyway, there's a cover, sort of oval in shape and bent diagonally, that's meant to go over this access hole. It's 100% visible with the hood open, so you certainly want it finished like everything else. Mine was not powder coated, but packed with the rest of the uncoated aluminum parts. It's not a big deal for me, because of the King mods I mentioned before, and this part is replaced with a different one. But for those who intend to use the stock pieces, something else to check and I assume based on the response from FF regarding the front panel, they would resolve it.

[edwardb]

edwardb, the FFR stamped ID actually begins F5R, not FFR... :)

Oops, you're absolutely right of course. My bad. I fixed the post. Amazing when I do things from memory rather than actually looking. :(

[ThickCobra]

Good catch. I did notice that oval piece while taking inventory, but wasn't certain what it was . And, mine is also not PC.

[edwardb]

Good catch. I did notice that oval piece while taking inventory, but wasn't certain what it was . And, mine is also not PC.

Just to be clear, it's this one. Yeah, sorta oval... It's part number 15521.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/IMG_0130_zpssc28fbpj.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/IMG_0130_zpssc28fbpj.jpg.html)

[Jeff Kleiner]

Thick,
If it's truly oval it is probably the filler for the hole in the RH side F panel. This piece too should be coated on the anniversary cars since it's purpose is to cover a hole that is not used with the FFR radiator.

Jeff

[edwardb]

Thick, If it's truly oval it is probably the filler for the hole in the RH side F panel. This piece too should be coated on the anniversary cars since it's purpose is to cover a hole that is not used with the FFR radiator. Jeff

Hey Jeff. True enough, except the RH side F panel provided (and coated) didn't have the donor radiator cutout. Nice. So that oval fill piece isn't required, even though included in the kit.

[ThickCobra]

You guys have made me realize, I need to inventory the panels. Though I've taken inventory (a few times now) of everything else, I have not identified and checked off all panels. Today's the day. My son is coming over today so it will be a nice little project. And, he's a great puzzle solver. This being one of the reasons I haven't tackled it yet.

[ThickCobra]

Jeff, you can call me Jay. I like my handle, but it sounds funny.:cool:

[ThickCobra]

You can tell I'm in my garage working on my car by the questions. Just curious, but are all power steering racks remanufactured? And, I guess powder coating is not an option unless I dismantle the unit.?

[RRussellTx]

45526

I'm #10 of 20

[edwardb]

You can tell I'm in my garage working on my car by the questions. Just curious, but are all power steering racks remanufactured? And, I guess powder coating is not an option unless I dismantle the unit.?

I don't think you can buy a new PS rack from your local parts store. They'll all be reman's. Even the very nice Unisteer PS rack that Breeze sells is a reman unit. Nothing wrong with a good quality reman PS. Theoretically, the wear parts, seals, etc. are all replaced. I suspect you would have to get into a higher end rack like Flaming River, AGR, etc. to be all new. And be ready to pay for it. No, I don't think you can PC a power steering rack without disassembly. The 400 degree or so oven would not be nice for the boots, O-rings, seals, etc. The Breeze PS rack is powder coated (can you tell I like it?) so I'm assuming they do the coating before assembly.

[edwardb]

45526

I'm #10 of 20

I'm hoping this is a picture of your kit delivery today? I'm anxious to see it! Unfortunately, the attachment isn't loading. :(

[RRussellTx]

It was supposed to be a pic of my gauges. I tried to take it directly from the post using my iPad camera but it apparently did not work very well. I have some proper pics from a real camera but for some reason I just don't want to be inside by the computer right now...

I got the kit around 4:00pm yesterday and I'm done with the first pass of my inventory (no roll bars, sway bars, cv axles, steering wheel, brakes and a few other odds and ends). The brakes were not even listed anywhere in the paperwork so it looks like they forgot to include it in the Anniversary package.

I've taken a bunch of pics and have the body ready to come off. I'm assembling the body buck now and then I'll get some buddies to come over and check it out and help me lift the body off later today.

Happy days are here!

[edwardb]

I got the kit around 4:00pm yesterday and I'm done with the first pass of my inventory (no roll bars, sway bars, cv axles, steering wheel, brakes and a few other odds and ends). The brakes were not even listed anywhere in the paperwork so it looks like they forgot to include it in the Anniversary package.

Congrats on your delivery! Take your time with the inventory, and check every piece. I found 10-12 errors between what was said to be delivered and what I actually received. Some just plain missing, others were the wrong size, etc. Also make sure all the Anniversary Edition pieces are there. I had to call about the bumpers, door panels, and roll bar trim rings. I don't have the Wilwood brakes yet either. They appear on your original sales order, but not on any of the shipping or backorder paperwork since they come directly from Wilwood. That was my experience with the previous Mk4 as well. But I'm a little surprised they're not here yet. Last time they were delivered before the kit. Sounds like you received your IRS UCA's and LCA's. I'm officially frustrated. Still don't have mine. They told me on Monday CV axles just arrived, so hopefully they'll ship soon. Have fun! It is quite an adventure.

[RRussellTx]

I am indeed checking it all but I don't have much of a reference on most of it. I think they gave me the wrong front shocks. Are all 4 Koni shocks supposed to be the same? My rears look like your fronts but my fronts are not adjustable and are painted solid red...

I do have the uca's and lca's for the IRS.

[edwardb]

I am indeed checking it all but I don't have much of a reference on most of it. I think they gave me the wrong front shocks. Are all 4 Koni shocks supposed to be the same? My rears look like your fronts but my fronts are not adjustable and are painted solid red...

Take it a box at a time, and use the box listings FF provides. Parts are generally grouped into logical assemblies. Parts that you don't recognize can generally be identified by a process of elimination using the description on the box list. Especially for first time builders, doing a thorough inventory is a good time to learn what the various parts are and get familiar with them. The manual has a lot of pictures, and that also can be used to help identify parts. I also use a digital caliper to measure stuff where it applies, including all hardware. Most digital calipers can switch between SAE and metric which is nice because the kit has plenty of both. Most recommend leaving the parts in their original boxes once inventoried, and using the box lists to find the parts when ready for assembly. I also recommend putting any backorder parts into the box they were supposed to be in, once received. Of course, anything you can't account for or doesn't seem right, immediately report to FF once you've completed the inventory. They're generally very good to take care of it. Officially they want you to report all shortages or problems within 45 days. In fact, you probably noticed they have stickers on the boxes saying this. But they're generally pretty relaxed about it. Maybe more important is you want the parts to be all available once you start working on that assembly step.

For the shocks, yes, you should have four of the all aluminum double adjusting Koni shocks. They're all four actually the same part. The only difference between front and back is the springs. There are different weights for front and back. The red Koni's are the standard ones. They did the same thing with my kit, e.g. shipped the front standard shock and springs. I reported it, and they sent me a shipping label to return, which I did. I did receive four of the special shocks though. They were all in the same box.

[ThickCobra]

Just to be clear, it's this one. Yeah, sorta oval... It's part number 15521.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/IMG_0130_zpssc28fbpj.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/IMG_0130_zpssc28fbpj.jpg.html)

I received the powder coated cover for the DS footbox. I am finding F5R (did F5R as that's on the frame) to be very responsive.

[rickscobra]

OK guys, I am off to pick up my kit next week. I have to admit that I am having a hard time understanding all the issues I read on this forum about the packaging of kit parts. FFR has been delivering these kits for a long time and I would think that putting the right parts in the right boxes should not be big deal. Who actually packs these boxes and how hard can it be to get it right? I understand back orders, but not the issues documented on this forum. The factory is very high tech, so how can the packing process consistently be so low tech? Is there an explanation? Sorry for the rant, but what don't I understand?

[edwardb]

OK guys, I am off to pick up my kit next week. I have to admit that I am having a hard time understanding all the issues I read on this forum about the packaging of kit parts. FFR has been delivering these kits for a long time and I would think that putting the right parts in the right boxes should not be big deal. Who actually packs these boxes and how hard can it be to get it right? I understand back orders, but not the issues documented on this forum. The factory is very high tech, so how can the packing process consistently be so low tech? Is there an explanation? Sorry for the rant, but what don't I understand?

This is going to sound defensive, but I'll respond anyway. First, can you be more specific about what you mean by "all the issues?" If you're only referring to the 20th Anniversary models, yes there have been a couple glitches. For example the ones documented here regarding powder coat. Yes, they missed a couple of pieces or did the wrong ones. Powder coating aluminum panels is not something they normally do. In my kit, the first 20th Anniversary delivery, there were a few parts I shouldn't have received, and a few missed that I should have received. So mistakes on this short run of 20 kits mainly can be attributed to exactly that IMO -- a short run outside the normal process. And as pointed out, they are quick and more than willing to resolve.

Everyone is encouraged to inventory their kit when delivered. You will find the documentation is actually very good. The boxes are all numbered, and you will get a detailed list of exactly what's in each box. It's very structured, and easy to check things off as you go through each box. For a complete kit, especially a complete kit plus the extras in the 20th Anniversary model, I'm guessing the part count is in the high hundreds (>1000?). Is it possible you will find a couple errors while doing your inventory? Yes. Report them and they will be resolved. Could it be better? Probably yes again. There can always be fewer mistakes. But I wouldn't let this take away from what you're about to do. I also think it's easy to get the wrong impression from on-line forums like this. Much of the bandwidth is about errors, problems, fixes, etc. Including my personal build thread. But what isn't talked about is the very high percentage of stuff that is received correctly, fits, works, goes as planned, etc.

One other comment. There are aspects of FF's R&D and factory operations that are most definitely high tech. But being an IT and Logistics professional my entire career, I wouldn't characterize the warehouse, kitting, and shipping processes as particularly high tech. They have computer systems, but it's still people manually pulling parts off warehouse racks and bins and staging shipments. Not a negative statement at all. It's exactly what I would expect in a business of that size. Human error can and does happen. My observation after having been around the operation and the guys working there a couple times is that they're a small and hard working group. They do a lot and care about what they're doing.

You kind of give a free pass to the backorder process. I actually think that's the weakest part. What I see is a company very aggressively marketing their products, including with frequent sales. Additionally, they are continually offering new models, new options, etc. While FF manufactures a lot of their parts, they also buy a lot of them. The supply chain doesn't always seem able to keep up, and long backorders sometimes result. Specific example: The 20th Anniversary model includes a very cool Wilwood brake setup. Something FF hasn't offered before plus it has first time/custom aspects because of the new 2015 Mustang IRS. The 20th Anniversary model was announced in June. First deliveries were in August. Wilwood just now has the brakes in production. None have been delivered as I understand. I'm trying to keep this in perspective as the price of being an early adopter. But I've never been accused of being very patient.

[RRussellTx]

check your wheels too - these are my fronts:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71466&d=1501450615

[rickscobra]

OK guys, I am off to pick up my kit next week. I have to admit that I am having a hard time understanding all the issues I read on this forum about the packaging of kit parts. FFR has been delivering these kits for a long time and I would think that putting the right parts in the right boxes should not be big deal. Who actually packs these boxes and how hard can it be to get it right? I understand back orders, but not the issues documented on this forum. The factory is very high tech, so how can the packing process consistently be so low tech? Is there an explanation? Sorry for the rant, but what don't I understand?

This morning, my rant of yesterday seems pretty silly. Edwardb did an excellent of putting it all in perspective. Must be the one week to go jitters. I have visited the FFR plant and have nothing but admiration for the entire team. As has been pointed out here, the assembly process does not need to be followed per the big book. A big plus is I only live four hours from FFR and easily drive down to solve any problems I have. I am beyond stoked at this point. Being retired, I will be working on my kit full time.

[ThickCobra]

I'm just checking in and curious as to how all the 20th Anniversary owners are doing. I'm making steady progress on my car with a few hick-ups here and there but overall enjoying the build. And, I'm very appreciative for all the patience displayed towards me as I have and will continue to have many questions and requests for guidance. Sometimes even minor annoyances can get to you. I have learned quickly that if something doesn't work or fit, it's best to tackle the next day. Amazing how a fresh look, and reaching out for guidance, can bring clarity of an area one may have struggled with. Very rewarding. I'll post pics of my progress as soon as I figure out how.

As a side note, I found it interesting that we received return mailing labels for the extra shocks and springs shipped with the components along with the new upgraded shocks. I guess enough honest people posted F5R on the error. Good to hear.

[edwardb]

I'm just checking in and curious as to how all the 20th Anniversary owners are doing. I'm making steady progress on my car with a few hick-ups here and there but overall enjoying the build. And, I'm very appreciative for all the patience displayed towards me as I have and will continue to have many questions and requests for guidance. Sometimes even minor annoyances can get to you. I have learned quickly that if something doesn't work or fit, it's best to tackle the next day. Amazing how a fresh look, and reaching out for guidance, can bring clarity of an area one may have struggled with. Very rewarding. I'll post pics of my progress as soon as I figure out how.

I'm making decent progress with mine. I've received nearly all the backordered and missing parts, so fast running out of those excuses. As of Monday or Tuesday I will have everything except the Wilwood brakes. I'll post an update to my build thread probably mid-week or so. Tease: Will be pictures of the completed IRS, assuming the CV axles that are in transit to me fit properly. While I've been waiting for backordered stuff, I've worked on a bunch of other little things that will make the build faster when I get there, like the gas tank, hood hinges, e-brake handle, radiator, sheet metal, etc. In the next week or so I'm going to order the Coyote for my build. That will be another big step.

Your point about sometimes walking away is a very good one. I've found repeatedly that something that won't work, won't fit, whatever, late in the day magically is easily resolved the next day when I'm fresh. I've also learned (the hard way...) that when something doesn't fit or seems wrong my first impulse should not be to start cutting or drilling.


As a side note, I found it interesting that we received return mailing labels for the extra shocks and springs shipped with the components along with the new upgraded shocks. I guess enough honest people posted F5R on the error. Good to hear.

Yea, I received that email too. I think it was sent to all 20th Anniversary customers. I found the extra shocks and springs during my initial inventory back in August. I also had a set of Coyote headers (the $600 ones) that I didn't order. I reported this stuff to FF and they sent a label and it was all back at their place several days later. I don't know why anyone would expect to keep stuff they didn't pay for. Especially when it's right there on the box inventory list.

[RRussellTx]

I'm having a lot of fun with my build! It seems like 2 steps forward and then wait a week or two on parts, tools or research (which I find fun). I got my random steel parts powder coated in black last week and had them do a couple of the non-white panels as well to see how it would look (and they looked sweet so I'll be getting the rest of them done at some point).

I received my Eastwood flaring tools with the AN kit so I'll be practicing with that soon. I also got my in-tank fuel pump from Forte. I figured out that I'm missing the spacers on the front lower ball joint so I need to contact FF tomorrow before I can finish up the front end. Still waiting on everything else from FF so I have not been able to finish much.

Right now I'm trying to figure out what kind of reservoir and mount to get for a 3 compartment brake/clutch setup.

[ThickCobra]

So...how do we update the 20th Anniversary list?

[RRussellTx]

So...how do we update the 20th Anniversary list?

Just let me know in this thread and I'll update my original post. What do you want to add/change?

[Courtnie Provencher]

I put up a post with the color codes :)

[ThickCobra]

I was just curious who the 20 were and what state they reside in.

[RR20AC]

Don't know what number I am. Build school in a couple of weeks and the my kit arrives around thanksgiving.

[ThickCobra]

Enjoy the school and take notes. It is well worth the experience.

[edwardb]

Does anyone have their Wilwood brakes yet??? My updates from FF have gone from "They're in production..." some weeks ago to now no updates. Not ranting (yet) but wondering if anyone else is having any better luck than me. :confused: I've seen them on the prototype (of course) and I see them in build pictures of the Ohio Cobra Club raffle car. But haven't seen or heard of any others.

Not holding my build up, but I'm getting very close to where I need to run brakes lines, then also fuel lines and e-brake cables. I don't want to do that any of that until the calipers are hung on each corner and I can get the routing exactly right. Plus there's a side of me that just wants to make sure the new design bracketry is going to work OK with the new Mustang IRS stuff. Any fitment issues could be more long delays.

[rickscobra]

Does anyone have their Wilwood brakes yet??? My updates from FF have gone from "They're in production..." some weeks ago to now no updates. Not ranting (yet) but wondering if anyone else is having any better luck than me. :confused: I've seen them on the prototype (of course) and I see them in build pictures of the Ohio Cobra Club raffle car. But haven't seen or heard of any others.

Not holding my build up, but I'm getting very close to where I need to run brakes lines, then also fuel lines and e-brake cables. I don't want to do that any of that until the calipers are hung on each corner and I can get the routing exactly right. Plus there's a side of me that just wants to make sure the new design bracketry is going to work OK with the new Mustang IRS stuff. Any fitment issues could be more long delays.

No brakes here in Maine. I did just receive a long awaited package containing my super shocks. Also received the 16 IRS control arm bushings I was missing. Now I can get the rear suspension finalized, with the exception of the BO axels.

[SlowLeak]

No brakes here either. After that the only things still backordered are axles and the door latches.

[ThickCobra]

Brakes, axles and door latches. Same here.

[2bking]

From this post in Edwardb's thread, looks like Paul_M has #9.


Hey Edward, This is my first build, I'm #9 for the 20th anniversary cars. Wanted to say thanks for all your suggestions and detailed postings they've been extremely helpful as I move along. I'm still waiting on the brakes as well, I was told a few weeks ago they would be shipped soon. I'm planning on PC all the non white panels gray to match the frame, has anyone come across the powder coat paint codes for the chassis so I can match the panels exactly? Thanks again

[RRussellTx]

From this post in Edwardb's thread, looks like Paul_M has #9.

Thanks King! I updated the original list to include Paul.

Paul, if you want to give us your chassis number and location I'll add that too. Welcome to the group!

[Paul Mischenko]

Hey guys,
Yep, I'm #9, live in Briarcliff Manor, NY. Build is coming along, wish I had more time...basically weekends and some nights after work...took a little while to get the garage organized and rolling body buck sorted. Front suspension is done and now been working on cleaning up the IRS parts and hoping to start installing next weekend after I get a new jack. Found a powder coater near me, and eduardb posted the colors codes on another thread, thanaks agian, so will be coating all the non-white panels gray to match the frame. Still need to find a painter and debating the engine choice and where to buy it from. I was originally thinking Summits M-6007-Z427FRT, but Roush has a pretty sweet 427 IR and Engine Factory has a nice 427W, both have similar output, engine factory is a little cheaper. Anyone have experience we either of these shops or any other recommendations? Thanks

[Paul Mischenko]

Also I'm still waiting on the brakes, CV Axles and Door Latches...

[ThickCobra]

Paul,

I heard we may be seeing some axles this week...fingers crossed. But, I can't imagine what the brake hold up is with wilwood as mine was ordered by ffr in August. August!! On a good note, I purchased my 427w from Mike Forte of Forte Parts Connection and it arrived last week. Can't wait to drop it in to see how everything fits. I'm sure it will be in and out out a number of times, but thats the way it works.

[edwardb]

Paul,

I heard we may be seeing some axles this week...fingers crossed. But, I can't imagine what the brake hold up is with wilwood as mine was ordered by ffr in August. August!! On a good note, I purchased my 427w from Mike Forte of Forte Parts Connection and it arrived last week. Can't wait to drop it in to see how everything fits. I'm sure it will be in and out out a number of times, but thats the way it works.

The brakes were supposed to start shipping late last week. But still haven't heard anything or received any tracking info. (Or seen anything on my porch :o) I heard second hand the problem was the special color. Could be. Couple of 2015 Mustang IRS builds going on in my area here and they have their new Wilwood brakes, and have for some time apparently. But they are black not the special Anniversary silver. 427W was what I was going to do until I changed course and went with the Coyote. Let's see some pictures of that bad boy!

[Paul Mischenko]

Thanks guys. I'll have a look at Forte's. Spoke to Chris today at Engine Factory and Tony at FF. Leaning towards the 427w from Engine Factory, looks pretty sweet and more than enough power... They set it all up on the Dyno ready to go. They also offer it with TKO 600. Was thinking about EFI, they use Atomic, but I'm leaning towards keeping simple and go Carb. Both suggested upgrading to 3/8 fuel lines. Still researching in tank vs exterior pump. They both suggested with 500+ that I should go with power steering. Edward, I saw you ordered your rack from Breeze, I assume #70563, I think you mentioned the centered mount kit instead of the offset #70634 which they offer?

[edwardb]

Edward, I saw you ordered your rack from Breeze, I assume #70563, I think you mentioned the centered mount kit instead of the offset #70634 which they offer?

Yes, I installed the 70563 PS rack. Have the same rack in my last build and very happy with how it works. I installed the offset rack bushings 70634. This will be the third time installing those parts. The steering rack chassis mounting locations on the Mk4 are well centered. But these bushings allow the rack to be moved forward and slightly down. Forward helps clear the boots off the frame. Down is supposed to help with bump steer, although with the Factory Five designed 2-piece spindles, likely bump steer won't be an issue.

[Paul Mischenko]

Great thanks very much Edward

[ThickCobra]

Dash panel. I am considering using the dash panel, made of a composit material and vinyl wrapped, which was provided with the 20th anniversary roadster. As many may know the car was also delivered with a blank aluminum dash if your inclined to design your own. My question relates to mounting the pre cut panel. The edges are rolled top and bottom and I'm not certain whether I should hang the top rolled edge onto the 3/4" square dash hoop or lay it flush to the top of the hoop.

On a relatedd note, does FFR have instructions for this particular dash panel?

[edwardb]

Dash panel. I am considering using the dash panel, made of a composit material and vinyl wrapped, which was provided with the 20th anniversary roadster. As many may know the car was also delivered with a blank aluminum dash if your inclined to design your own. My question relates to mounting the pre cut panel. The edges are rolled top and bottom and I'm not certain whether I should hang the top rolled edge onto the 3/4" square dash hoop or lay it flush to the top of the hoop.

On a relatedd note, does FFR have instructions for this particular dash panel?

I received that dash with my Anniversary kit, and chose not to use it because I wanted a competition layout. But I am familiar with it. The bottom edge you should be able to leave as is. It's similar to the regular aluminum version. The top edge though may need some trimming. There's not enough clearance from the body to put over the top of the 3/4 inch tube. It has to go in front. A regular wrapped aluminum dash with padding can be 1/4 inch thick or so, and they fit OK. So if you're in that range, it should be OK, although I would monitor very carefully when installing the body. The body lip may need to be trimmed back or straightened a bit. Depending on how you mount it, you may need some spacers between the dash and the 3/4 inch tube so that it sits properly with the edge remaining. If you do end up trimming the dash top edge, I would be very cautious. There was a thread some months ago from someone who trimmed theirs and it was enough to cause the covering to start separating from the backing. They were understandably not happy. I've not seen any instructions from Factory Five, but wouldn't hurt to call them and ask. They've installed at least one. On the Anniversary prototype. It looks OK, but of course with the body on can't tell how much or little they may have trimmed that top edge.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Instrument%20Panel/IMG_3368_zpseirjsh3s.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Instrument%20Panel/IMG_3368_zpseirjsh3s.jpg.html)

From this image on the Factory Five Anniversary edition news release, clearly they mounted it with screws through the front.

http://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/55A1361.jpg

[ThickCobra]

Edwardb,

As always, thanks for the response. I have some thinking to do as to whether I want to use this dash. Being a first time builder, I want to know my installation options before I'm committed. I am regularly running into "analysis paralysis". I'm sure your familiar with the term. However, as I mounted the high beam indicator light a little too high in the pre cut dash,, and as I see no easy way to repair/plug my mistake, the decision as to which to use may have just been made.

Thanks, again.

[Paul Mischenko]

Back up Light? Hey guys, so in NYS for registration I need a back up light. I've seen some have used a flush mounted mini-cooper light. Just wondering if others have the same requirement and what you were thinking. I'm thinking of something temporary similar to the defroster requirement.

[briankauf]

Whoa Slowleak -- Verona? I'm in Fitchburg, Wi. #8722 -- not 20th Anniv, but optioned similarly (2015 IRS, powder coat, etc.)

[ThickCobra]

I thought maybe it was time to ask whether some more of the 20th crew want to be added to the list at the start of this thread? I haven't asked ffr yet, but I'd be curious whether all 20 were sold/delivered. I'm #004.

Btw, briankauf and slowleak...I'm in Burlington, WI.

[edwardb]

They're definitely all sold. That has been confirmed multiple times. The last I heard -- a couple months ago -- was that one still hadn't been delivered. That was the last one and I'd guess is shipped by now.

[briankauf]

I thought maybe it was time to ask whether some more of the 20th crew want to be added to the list at the start of this thread? I haven't asked ffr yet, but I'd be curious whether all 20 were sold/delivered. I'm #004.

Btw, briankauf and slowleak...I'm in Burlington, WI.

Awesome! It's surprising there are at least 3 builds going on in such close proximity.

[ThickCobra]

And all of the 20th purchased. That is so cool!

[RRussellTx]

I hope to see 001 at the Texas Cobra Meet in a couple of weeks! I'll probably buy some raffle tickets and try to pick up another one!

[2bking]

Per RR20AC post #8 of his build thread (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?19580-RR20AC-Build-Thread&p=229403#post229403), he has #18 of 20. Thought you might want to update the first post of this thread.

[RRussellTx]

Per RR20AC post #8 of his build thread (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?19580-RR20AC-Build-Thread&p=229403#post229403), he has #18 of 20. Thought you might want to update the first post of this thread.

Done - Thanks King!

[ThickCobra]

Are several of you considering adjustable seat rails for your anniversary roadster seats. There seem to be quite a few from several suppliers with prices that vary based upon, as I see it, the complexity of the rail installation and function. I would appreciate hearing thoughts on individual's experience. And, one of the 2 Breeze units requires relocating the e brake handle. How difficult would this be to do?

[edwardb]

I'll post this in my build thread, but will post it here for the other Anniversary Roadster builders. I had occasion to need some touch-up paint for the Tiger Drylac DB 703 Glimmer, 49/84340 power coat used on the Anniversary frame. The reason is in my build thread. After some searching, found a company in Texas that packages touch-up paint for powder coat and include some of the Tiger Drylac colors. I contacted them about this specific color, and they said yes they could provide it. Received it today and the match is perfect. I don't think you could find the repair. And even if I pointed it out, you might not be able to see it. I'm impressed (and relieved...). Here's a picture of the spray can with the company name and website. $15 plus shipping. Not bad.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/th_IMG_0321_zpsabcjvilr.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/edwardb123/media/Factory%20Five%2020th%20Anniversary%20Mark%204%20R oadster/Misc%20Pics/IMG_0321_zpsabcjvilr.jpg.html)

[edwardb]

Are several of you considering adjustable seat rails for your anniversary roadster seats. There seem to be quite a few from several suppliers with prices that vary based upon, as I see it, the complexity of the rail installation and function. I would appreciate hearing thoughts on individual's experience. And, one of the 2 Breeze units requires relocating the e brake handle. How difficult would this be to do?

I'll go ahead and respond since no one else has. I've driven two Roadsters five+ seasons without adjustable seat rails. I personally have not found them necessary. I'm very average size (5'10") and have the standard seats back as far as they will go. For me the fit is fine, and I wouldn't want them any further forward. I'm still below the top of the windshield and the roll bar, but I also wouldn't want the seat any higher and the adjustable tracks do add a little height. Unless you have different seats that go further back than the standard ones, or are short or have other short drivers, personally I don't see the need for adjustable tracks. Just more complexity. Another consideration is the anti-submarine belt. The seat pan attachment is just long enough to bolt in the belt with the seat all the way back. I'm not sure what guys are doing if they have adjustable seats and slide them forward. It would hit the belt attachment location. Leaving them off? Mounting them in the aluminum floor? Neither are good or safe options IMO. Maybe this has an easy answer, but I haven't seen it. Moving the e-brake handle isn't all that hard I guess. Guys do it. Typically using a Lokar setup. But I haven't seen the need, so can't comment about that.

[2bking]

I'm about 5'-6" and have the adjustable seat track on the drivers seat with the FFR standard seats. It adjusted all the way back and I wouldn't feel comfortable with it any closer. I think you need to have a driver shorter than me before a seat adjuster is needed. It took extra time to install it and for me, I don't think I would do it again. The only advantage for me is the ability to move the seat forward to retrieve objects lost behind it.

[ThickCobra]

Edwardb and 2bking,

Thanks for the response. As I am close to 5' 8", I clearly fit within your ranges. If a modification or upgrade adds value I'm all for it. But, I tend not to spend money on "nice to have" items. Well, it's not always the case but with this 1st build I'm careful not to go mod crazy nor try to take on so much that it loses its "fun factor". Also, though I always have questions I'd like to ask, I try to limit it to those questions which may be of interest to other anniversary builders. Thanks again.

Great find on the paint touchup. Maybe now I can hit some rivits with touch up.

Jay

[RRussellTx]

Welcome to the club Railroad! I added you to the list in Post #1 of this thread.

[David Hodgkins]

Georg no longer belongs on the list; he never finalized his deal for a 20th anniversary roadster.

[RRussellTx]

Georg no longer belongs on the list; he never finalized his deal for a 20th anniversary roadster.

That's too bad...
List has been updated.
Thanks!

[Railroad]

Welcome to the club Railroad! I added you to the list in Post #1 of this thread.

Thanks, I appreciate the welcome.

[Railroad]

Back up Light? Hey guys, so in NYS for registration I need a back up light. I've seen some have used a flush mounted mini-cooper light. Just wondering if others have the same requirement and what you were thinking. I'm thinking of something temporary similar to the defroster requirement.

I do not know how a tag frame will look on your car, but some have the back up light incorporated into the frame.

[Engine Factory]

Hey guys anyone needing a powerplant, talk to us. Have been helping FFR Guys for 15+ years.
www.fordcobraengines.com 1-800-704-5385 thanks Chris

[Georg]

That's too bad...
List has been updated.
Thanks!

At least I can follow closely all the builds and love to see the progresses you guys are doing. There will be another chance for me, im pretty sure about it and im looking forward to...

All the best to all of you, Georg

[RLKfarmboy]

And # 20 resides in central Ohio , currently in the paint shop

[RLKfarmboy]

# 20 , central Ohio

[2bking]

I suppose #8 can be added to this list as belonging to BadAsp427

[RRussellTx]

I suppose #8 can be added to this list as belonging to BadAsp427

Done! Original post updated to include #8's new home.
Great find BadAsp427!

001 - The Original Raffle Car
002 - BobCarter - Springfield, MO
003 - edwardb - #8674 - Lake Orion, MI
004 - ThickCobra #8658 - Kenosha County, WI
005 - SlowLeak - #8685 - Verona, WI
008 - BadAsp427 - #8690 - Summerville, SC
009 - Paul_M - Briarcliff Manor, NY
010 - RRussellTx - #8697 - Parker, TX
015 - Railroad - Heart of Dixie
018 - RR20AC - Puyallup, WA
020 - RLKfarmboy - Central Ohio

[wareaglescott]

Interesting to see this thread revised.
Obviously #8 is not on the road but of the other known cars do we know how many are on the road?

[Railroad]

#15 is not on the road. Getting very close to 1st start, ie battery, CAI and a few wires, Oh and some gas.

[edwardb]

Interesting to see this thread revised.
Obviously #8 is not on the road but of the other known cars do we know how many are on the road?

These are the ones I know are on the road either because of forum posting or direct contact:

001 - The Original Raffle Car. It's certainly done and running. Saw it. Don't know anything more about it though.
002 - BobCarter - Springfield, Yes
003 - edwardb - #8674 - Lake Orion, MI. Um, yea... :o Second season, turned 3K miles this weekend.
004 - ThickCobra #8658 - Kenosha County, WI, Yes. Body and paint underway.
005 - SlowLeak - #8685 - Verona, WI, Yes
010 - RRussellTx - #8697 - Parker, TX, Yes
018 - RR20AC - Puyallup, WA, Yes

Balance:

008 - BadAsp427 - #8690 - Summerville, SC, New owner as just posted. Just starting
009 - Paul_M - Briarcliff Manor, NY, Getting ready to go to paint
015 - Railroad - Heart of Dixie, Close to 1st start, per previous post
020 - RLKfarmboy - Central Ohio, unknown

11 of 20 accounted for. 7 that I know of are on the road.

[Jeff Kleiner]

#4 is currently in my shop for body & paint. Color choice was finalized last Thursday.

Jeff

[BobCarter]

No. 2 is on the road!
Yesss
91743

[edwardb]

No. 2 is on the road!
Yesss
91743

Awesome Bob! Congrats.

[David Hodgkins]

No. 2 is on the road!
Yesss
91743

That's how I would have built it!

:)

[BobCarter]

David you might enjoy a look at the engine turned dash. You can appreciate the hours of time this involved. ;)91789

[BobCarter]

David you might enjoy a look at the engine turned dash. You can appreciate the hours of time this involved. ;)91789

91790

Never can get my orientation right on pics. :mad:

[David Hodgkins]

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=91791&d=1534981178

Holy smokes that's puuuuuuurdy! NICE JOB!

[Higgybulin]

The license plate is awesome!!
Higgy

[BobCarter]

Thanks for the compliments guys.

Paul you were a great help throughout my build.

David it was your engine turned prowess that led me to choose the dash finish.

As far as the license plate- well that’s a coined phrase from Dave Kindig of Kindig design (see the Velocity channel).
“Building custom cars is *****en”.
FFR’s says “Built not bought”. I will add- during an FFR build you will have fun and meet a lot of great folks allong the way. All true.
If you want to really enjoy a car, build a Factory Five, I did and I love my FFR Roadster!!

[rickscobra]

Not intending to hijack your thread, but my question goes along with the 20th Anniversary limited edition cars. I have one of four de-badged 20th Anniversary cars that Dan and FFR offered to people that did not make the cut when it was announced that there were only several 20th kits left.

This rare Stealth Edition only lacks the white powder coated chassis and the 20th badges. Mine resides in Maine and will reach the 5000 mile mark before the snow flies.

A big thank you to Dan for making it happen. I feel I have a really special car.

[BadAsp427]

Hey everyone. I was wondering if any of the 20th Anniversary owners had a problem with missing the Chrome package when you got your kits 3 years ago. Specifically I'm asking about the Chrome roll bar. The kit that I just purchased has been stored very neatly and organized for the past 3 years and in fact, none of the boxes were even opened until just this month when the previous owner was looking to send me some photos of the documents and such before I made the 270 mile drive to see and purchase the kit. So here is what I'm facing. According to the inventory list, the DS Chrome Roll Bar was suppose to be in box 10B. Well as you can see by the attached photos, 10B was not big enough for the bars, but it did have EVERYTHING listed except the bars themselves. Now, I know it is way past the initial time to complete an inventory and identify missing items, but if it was a common problem then perhaps I can get FFR to help. As of now, they are not willing. Thanks for any input you can share. FYI, FFR is going to send the chrome bumpers that were also missing as they do not show them as ever having shipped.
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[edwardb]

Hey everyone. I was wondering if any of the 20th Anniversary owners had a problem with missing the Chrome package when you got your kits 3 years ago. Specifically I'm asking about the Chrome roll bar. The kit that I just purchased has been stored very neatly and organized for the past 3 years and in fact, none of the boxes were even opened until just this month when the previous owner was looking to send me some photos of the documents and such before I made the 270 mile drive to see and purchase the kit. So here is what I'm facing. According to the inventory list, the DS Chrome Roll Bar was suppose to be in box 10B. Well as you can see by the attached photos, 10B was not big enough for the bars, but it did have EVERYTHING listed except the bars themselves. Now, I know it is way past the initial time to complete an inventory and identify missing items, but if it was a common problem then perhaps I can get FFR to help. As of now, they are not willing. Thanks for any input you can share. FYI, FFR is going to send the chrome bumpers that were also missing as they do not show them as ever having shipped.
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My Box 10B had the same exact parts list as you're showing (roll bar hoop, leg, and hardware) and all were included with the initial kit delivery. As you said, that box isn't big enough for the roll bar. My box 10B was the same larger size box as most of the other kit boxes. That small box picture with the original marking would seem to be good evidence. But it's also been a couple years and well beyond the official time to claim shortages. Tough situation. It's too bad the original purchaser didn't at least take the time to do an inventory. I've never had a kit delivery that wasn't missing something. And not always minor.

[BadAsp427]

I think this represents 11 of the 20:

001 - The Original Raffle Car
002 - BobCarter - Springfield, MO
003 - edwardb - #8674 - Lake Orion, MI
004 - ThickCobra #8658 - Kenosha County, WI
005 - SlowLeak - #8685 - Verona, WI
008 - BadAsp427 - #8690 - Summerville, SC
009 - Paul_M - Briarcliff Manor, NY
010 - RRussellTx - #8697 - Parker, TX
015 - Railroad - Heart of Dixie
018 - RR20AC - Puyallup, WA
020 - RLKfarmboy - Central Ohio

plus a prototype version for Dave's son Adam

Who else is out there

So does anyone know where numbers 006, 007, 011, 012, 013, 014, 016, 017, 019 are at? These represent nearly 50% of them.

[BadAsp427]

So #8 of 20, 20th Anniversary Factory Five Mk4 Roadster 8690 is 100% street legal and the fun begins/continues. I'm excited to say that I'll be driving it in Gel Coat for the next several months and then it is off to Jeff K for his amazing paint/body work to finish it off. And for anyone keeping track, I picked it up on Aug 18th, 2018 and it is street legal on Feb 22nd, 2019... 6 months.... can't wait to get the paint on it, but Jeff says I have to.

102588

[Paul Mischenko]

Hey guys, time to graduate #9 of 20 FFR 8692.
Working on creating a thread with some more photos. Hopefully this one loads.

[Paul Mischenko]

Can't seem to figure out how to post pictures from the ones I uploaded in gallery to thread. Will research a little more and try again

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111407&d=1564324538

[ChasNMe]

on another note, I saw Dave at the build school in April and then after went to the shop in MA. Dave gave me the tour of the shop and said that the black roadster in the shop is 000 because they oversold by 1. apparently sales did the same thing with the 15th anniversary edition also . . . he said he is not sure if they will do the same for 25th coming soon, if they do it wont be by accident this time

[BadAsp427]

Awesome photo Paul... Cant wait to get mine painted and "graduated" I think there are only about 6 -8 of the 20th on the road... Yours looks fantastic...
Carl

[Paul Mischenko]

Thanks Carl, The body work paint process was certainly a big milestone, once done its the home stretch. Will hopefully get the graduation thread started tonight with some more photos and details of the build. Cheers