LCD Gauges Product Release & Promo!

[LCD Gauges]

Hello Everyone,

I’d like to announce the product launch of the LCD gauge system – The PRO-LCDi-100!
This kit will be sold under my existing business name of Procision-Auto.
New updates as I'm changing servers!

New email and URL will be:

info@lcddash.com
www.lcddash.com (http://www.lcddash.com)

News and updates to follow within the next few weeks!

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Aventador Skin shown (available for download, as well as many others):
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65582&d=1490396176



If you have trouble retrieving the file, send me a message with your personal email and I’ll send it
your way.

**Note: You do not have to tear apart your dash to install the system. The following post will outline
Basic wiring, and hardware installation. Specific details, and instructions for wiring and install will be
sent with your product in PDF format.




Introductory pricing is as follows:
CDN funds + taxes, and shipping (see estimated shipping costs below). If you have a compatible tablet, you can order basic systems. Inquire about tablet
compatibility before ordering your kit.
Options and pricing breakdown
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if you have already cut your gauge pod inlay/bezel, you will need to fabricate or purchase another.
I’m working with a forum member in the United States who can provide these bezels in Carbon Fiber
for $65 USD + tax, and shipping

A deposit of $350 is required, and balance due upon shipment. Allow 3-4 weeks for delivery.
Payments can be made via PayPal, Money Order, or Credit Card (soon to be established).

Thank you again for your interest, and if you have any questions/comments after reading the PDF,
feel free to post them here, or send me a message!

Sincerely,
Tino

FedEx Shipping Estimates:
Ontario - $25 (3 business days)
Canada – Toronto to Victoria BC , $45 (5 business days)
USA – Toronto to California, $100 (5 business days)

[LCD Gauges]

http://www.procision-auto.com/ProAuto/PRO_LCDi_100/connections.jpg

[LCD Gauges]

To be uploaded shortly...

[LCD Gauges]

Unfortunately, my video idea didn't work out so well. Instead, I've uploaded some photos of the install procedure.
The installation manual will be more detailed, and specific with connections and walk you through each step.
Hopefully this will illustrate the process for converting from analog gauges to the LCD screen.

Process (for those with analog gauges already installed):
- Remove the battery negative cable.
- Tilt steering column down (if equipped), and remove steering wheel for ease of access (not necessary, but easier!)
- Remove screws for analog gauge bezel
- Disconnect the signal wires for each gauge. Label them accordingly.
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- Disconnect the turn signal, and high beam wires, and label them.
- Set aside all of the gauge signal wires, high beam, and turn signal wires.
- Make these wires available for the processor box, and ensure they are long enough to reach.
- At this time, feed the supplied USB data/power cables into the dash pod area.
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- Test fit the LCD screen in the pod. Ensure you have enough clearance from the steering
column to the inside edge of the fiberglass pod.
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- You may need to install more shims to lower the steering column (2 bolts).
- Longer bolts may be required to allow the nut to screw onto the threads with the extra shimming applied
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- Once you are satisfied with the clearances, the new bezel opening can be cut
for the LCD screen size.
- The example below is a poly carbonate template, however this is for illustration
purposes only. If you have not cut your FFR bezel, you may utilize the supplied
part with your kit to mount the tablet.

For those that have already cut their bezel, you may purchase a new part through
me if needed. Similar carbon fibre finishes will be available.
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Once the opening has been cut, the supplied foam gasket edging can be applied.
This will serve to protect the face of the tablet, and also provide a gripping surface.
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All hardware required to mount the table to the bezel is included with the kit.
Some drilling is necessary to secure the brackets to the bezel. A template will
be provided.
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Before mounting the bezel to the pod, connect the USB cable to the side of the tablet.
This connection will serve to transfer the vehicle data from the processor box to the
tablet, as well as for downloading data logs, or setting up your system.
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- Once you have connected the signal wires to the processor box, the negative battery cable
can be restored.

- The installation manual will provide more in depth information for each connection, and suggested
locations. Once the processor is powered, you can begin using the LCD gauges.
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Total installation time is estimated at four hours for wiring, and about four hours for cutting/installing the bezel
depending on your comfort level.

If there are any questions, please post them here or send me a private message.

Thanks!

[LCD Gauges]

I’ve been researching several LCD gauge products and data loggers while designing my system to stay ahead of the
game, but also to track trends. The current craze is the OBDII port readers that interface with cellphones and tablets
to import vehicle data. These are generally cheaper and offer a great deal of information, however they lack certain
inputs for turn signals, fuel level, etc. which is essential for a standard gauge cluster. The OBDII data stream is also
somewhat slow making certain gauges lag, or look choppy (IE: RPM). This is my experience with most protocols to date.

While receiving comments, and reading member posts describing their wants/needs, it appears a more economical
solution is appropriate in addition to the PRO-LCDi-100 product.

The expense is largely governed by the screen as I’m using notebooks (mini laptop), or tablets to display the info.
Compared to the competition, this format keeps the cost down while allowing additional options at no extra cost.

As an alternative I’d like to offer a system that incorporates a smaller, less expensive 7-8 inch display with an OBDII
option. By using an ODBII cable instead of wiring harnesses and sensors, costs can further be reduced. Estimated
costs for the ECO (economy) setup is $750 CDN. I’m fairly confident that this figure can be met with ease, and
possibly incorporate a touchscreen at the same cost.

I’ve made a matrix for some of the more popular systems using spec sheets and MFG web sites. Pricing is sourced
from EBay, Amazon, or MFG website. Note that my figures are stated in Canadian funds when comparing; which is
a bonus with the exchange rate at the moment.

As a side note, the GTM is getting the interior installed at the moment which allow me to get a proper video uploaded
of the LCD gauges in operation. Sorry that it has taken so long to get to this point, I’ve really under estimated the amount
of work involved getting the car prepped!
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[LCD Gauges]

A good amount of prelim testing has been accomplished and everything is working well.

Aside from calibrating sensors to the graphic scales, polling delays are needed to slow down the updates for fuel level, temperature, and readings of that nature.
Without a delay, the fuel gauge is constantly changing level as the fuel sloshes around when driving.

I am also moving toward a custom printed circuit board which will eliminate most of the wiring and possibly allow the use of a dedicated ATMEL procesor. Ultimately this means there is no need for the Arduino.
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The LCD display looks great so far and has received several compliments when showing off the interior. Now that everything is working, I will be spending more time developing new layouts and skins for the display.

I'd like to try a layout that resembles the LaFerrari gauges, coupled with the Reventon display. A clean layout with some unique gauge representations. These will be made available for download at no extra cost.

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[LCD Gauges]

Before updating this thread, I'd like to apologize for the lack of continuity and communication. Not only did I underestimate the huge undertaking
to design, proto-type, and test this idea, I've been side tracked with some immediate family emergencies. These past two months have been very
difficult, however the show must go on!

Since I last posted a new 'skin' has been created to make more use of screen space. It's a complete revamp of the layout while keeping a clean,
easy to read information panel. I'm working on a "Track Overlay" to log lap times, position, etc. The accelerometer gauge still needs some tweaking,
but overall it's working well.
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For the next skin, I'm going to simulate an aircraft display. Being such a hardcore aviation fanatic, this will likely
be my display of choice!

Imagine these radial type indicators for engine temperature, oil pressure, etc.
Bar graphs for fuel pressure, fuel level and things of that nature.
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This will be the main section for Speed, RPM and accelerometer.
There is even room for elevation, heading, and other NAV aids
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I think it will be a fun task over the Winter! Before that happens I have promised a working video demo in the car.
Without giving timelines and false promises it will be coming sooner than later. Once again, I do apologize for letting
this sit for so long.

[The Stig]

Wow...! That is amazing.

Mike

[Aceflo]

Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

[LCD Gauges]

I’m excited to finally be able to post updates on this project. The tail end of 2015 has been very difficult for me, but the show must go on!
If you’ve been following my build thread, you’ll also note the starter issues with my GTM that have impeded testing and video of this project.
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Here is a quick video of the screen in the car idling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBFPth6b5Q

Preliminary testing of the LCD dash has shown promising results. Day time driving shows well on the screen with direct sunlight. The numbers
and graphics are easy to read and the contrast is decent. I feel comfortable stating that the brightness level is more than adequate for covered
cabin cars like the GTM.

With the one inch spacers on the steering column fitting the tablet in the dash pod is a bit tight. It would be wise to increase the spacing to
1.5 inches for sufficient clearance.

Battery life on the Acer Switch 10 is very good. I’ve setup the computer to enter Hibernate mode after one minute of engine shutdown. If you
don’t drive your car for two weeks from a full charge, the tablet will power up out of Hibernate when the ignition is switched on. The trouble
with going longer than two weeks is the risk of draining the tablet battery beyond recovery. This means you will have to access the power
switch to boot up the system. This could mean removing the bezel to access the power button which is a bit of a hassle. I’m going to fabricate
a harness that will allow external charging for those of us who don’t drive our cars on a weekly basis.

Aside from those little quirks, I’m content with how the beta testing has progressed. The WIFI data transfer is awesome for getting the vehicle
data log to your home computer. You can use remote email or setup a network so you can see the GTM in your directory tree.
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Currently there are four skins for use:
1. Analog style portrait
2. Analog style landscape
3. Digital gauge layout
4. Aircraft replica instrumentation (in progress)
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The next stage of the LCDi system design in underway. An ABS / Traction control feature will be offered as model designation PRO-LCDi-200.
As you can see from the previously posted chart, the 200 series systems are fully customizable and offer all features of the 100 model.
Programming has already begun and I’m in the midst of sourcing an ABS module that can be installed in our cars.

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With all hope the traction control will be ready for testing by mid-Summer. I’m also working on a new website to host all of the skins, program
updates, and PDF manuals. The target date for the new website is end of this coming March!

Thanks for your interest in reading.

[tucker298]

I love it! I'm trying to stay focused on just getting the car fired up in the next couple of months but when I see this I start wandering about things farther down the road and I get excited..... And also overwhelmed that I have so much farther to go! Keep the updates coming

[danond]

This is incredibly cool. Nice work! Great value, too. I plan to pull the trigger on a Gen 2 next year. I will be going with your LCD setup!

[LCD Gauges]

A quick update on this project. This video includes:

- Traction Control circuit
- Wide Band AFR gauge
- Accelerometer
- Light sensor

I'll have to upload another video to describe the Electronic Engine Start/Stop and other features like the Config File and Log File features.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaerCvhpblc

[LCD Gauges]

The latest and greatest in the development of this project is the addition of OBDII messaging
from the data port.

Many more parameters can now be logged and displayed with a significant reduction in wiring.
With hundreds of sensors and PID’s to poll, the possibilities are pretty much endless. Along with
displaying gauge information, the system can generate DTC codes with general fault info to help
with trouble-shooting or vehicle maintenance.

There are still some limitations with using the ODBII port exclusively as RPM, Speed, AFR, Boost,
shift light info (to name a few) are too slow for accurate gauge indications. Luckily the ATMEL chip
is able to poll these sensors in real time up to 16,000 times per second if needed! At the moment,
the software is set for 60 samples per second, or about 17 milliseconds between updates.

Here’s a quick video of the demo software working on my daily driver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfvOFVdDhDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfvOFVdDhDc

[LCD Gauges]

This is the season to complete the test stage of this system. I've made some good progress with respect to getting the base
options to work, however my efforts were cut short by an unexpected water-pump issue on my car a few weeks ago.

With my car in storage for a relocation/house sale, I won't be able to get another update until mid July at the earliest.
Until that time I can report the following:

- The screen brightness and glare is a non issue even in clear, bright sunny conditions. I've driven the car in many
lighting scenarios and there is no trouble reading the display.

- With the current bezel mounting, the light sensor of the tablet is blocked which lowers the brightness level of the
display. Even with this considered, the graphics are easy to interpret. The light sensor can be over-ridden, or
a future modification can be made to add an LED that illuminates to simulate bright ambient interior lighting.

- The following photos are taken from an over shoulder action camera with limited resolution. These photos
are meant to show the brightness of the tablet compared to the lighting in the cabin.

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- The GPS module is slick. All data is automatically saved and co-ordinates can be uploaded to many online
tracking apps to show your driven route. The current sample rate is 60 points per second which is far too
many for mapping. I'll have to reduce this interval to about 10 samples per second.

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The next step is to develop a printed circuit board and move all the discrete components from the test board
to a permanently soldered circuit board. I've also stumbled upon a source for automotive grade LCD monitors
that use CAN bus for data transfer. I'll be looking to get a quote this week and may possibly be able to integrate
a screen that is better sized for the dash pod.

[vaydor]

What size is the tablet you use?

[LCD Gauges]

The current tablet is an Acer Switch 10, with a 10.1" screen.

[LCD Gauges]

A quick update for those following the progress:

I've designed and ordered custom printed circuit board which will arrive any day now. The proto-type worked great so it's time to set everything in stone.
I'll be able to verify the circuit boards and then offer the system as a 'production grade' kit.

The next project will be designing a more entry level, lower cost option to compete with phone apps. This version will the ability of expansion for options
that are offered in the 100 series, but use a stripped down basic set of features (IE: no outside air temperature, or ambient light sensor as standard equipment).

OBDII capabilities will be introduced on all models which also reduces the amount of wiring harnesses and connections.

I'm currently setting up the option of having an 8 inch and 10 inch LCD screens for all versions to be more competitive with pricing as well as make installation
easier.

Once I have the graphics programmed for the 8 inch screen, I'll upload a photo.

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[Aceflo]

Nice. This has been quite a project for you. Glad to see it coming to fruition.

[vaydor]

any news on the updated prices? and will it work with windows still or android also?

[LCD Gauges]

A bit more of a teaser for the revised digital screen layout. This skin will be available for 10 and 8 inch screens.
There’s still more editing required, but the general “look” is starting to bloom.

The circuit boards arrived yesterday and they are A1 quality – much better than I expected. These boards will
be used for Beta Test units and probably won’t need much change (if any at all).



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Minimal gauges for a cleaner look vs. more display options. I'll still need to add the Accelerometer, and
other messages. AFR and Fuel pressure can be selected off (optional). The tachometer indicator still
needs more graphic work and a more visible line for "sport mode".
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Vaydor,

Price point for the entry level kit is still being considered as I have to test the system with the smaller screen
and ensure all of the features can be reproduced using OBDII (CAN bus and other protocols).

I’m aiming for about 50% reduction in pricing to come in around $600 CDN and stay ahead of competitive systems
with extra features. Once the 100 series is fully tested, I’ll start working on the OBDII models which will be about
end of September.

Unfortunately, development is not quick or an easy task as I’m a 1 man show. Most of the code can be pulled
from the 100 series, and the graphics are pretty much done. Programming completion for the OBDII module
is estimated by end of October.

Currently, the software only works with Window's based tablets. Android and Apple are planned for the future
if this product grabs enough interest.

[vaydor]

600 sounds a lot better would love to see the 8inch screen with aventador style gauges

[vaydor]

Also there are people producing brackets for this but none for windows I have bought one for nexus 7 inch would like to see your software working on this platform :) keep up the great work

[rev2xs]

Ooooh i doubt it unfortunately. Windows uses a different coding language to Android. C# i believe.

I have a question for Tino, can we change the GUI layout of the HUD on the LCD? For example, someone on this thread said they would want to make it look like a Lambo Aventador. Can we do this easily?

[LCD Gauges]

Tom, it's as easy as loading a different file. The skin can be changed as often as you like.

I'll definitely be working on the Aventador style gauge as it will fit nicely on the smaller 8 inch screen.

[vaydor]

The graphics for the aventador can be downloaded free online

[BigB]

When will this be available for purchase?

[LCD Gauges]

The 100 version will be ready to go in about two weeks. I just need to test the circuit board and the smaller 8 inch screen.

I'd like to offer the 100 model with an option to have OBDII expansion as well as make it more customised.

For instance, those not wanting "Twilight Sentinel" or Courtesy Lighting with Door Sensors can opt out at reduced price.

I'll make up an options list over the weekend with some price breakdowns for each feature. I will also start a new thread
and contact anyone who PM'd me about a group purchase.

Thanks for your questions, comments, and interest!
Tino

[vaydor]

I'm 100% interested please let me know
I bought the nexus 7 sls bracket please let me know if your 8 inch tablet fits in it.
http://m.fifieldfabrications.com/ANDROID-TABLET-AND-PHONE-KITS.html

And will the 100 series show the following icons:
Indicators
Door open
Lights on
Service due

[rev2xs]

Man i'm so pumped for these gauges :)

I'm figuring out a way to justify the purchase price to the misses as we speak ;)

[LCD Gauges]

Tom, here's more leverage for your cause: Tell her that you'll sell the current analog gauges and use the money toward the purchase of the LCD setup.

I've put together a chart with some options for those not wanting all the , "bells and whistles". Keep in mind, you can add to any system in the future using the
options list at the bottom of the chart.

I'm working on the OBDII module which will add several parameters, gauge options, and also act as a code reader (among other things). For those that
purchase the LCDi-100 full version early (As per PDF), you will receive the OBDII at no extra cost. You just need to pay for shipping of the module which
will be a small handheld box that weighs less than a pound.

To stay competitive with other entry level gauge products, I've broken down the features and offered a system with/without a display monitor. I'll start
another thread for formal orders for those not following this thread. Those of you whom have replied here can Private Message me if you would like to
order a system.

The Product Promo PDF can be downloaded from my website using this link (right-click, “save as”):
http://www.procision-auto.com/ProAut...PromoSheet.pdf (http://www.procision-auto.com/ProAuto/PRO_LCDi_100/PRO_LCDi_100_PromoSheet.pdf)

Please reference the first post of this thread for more details and order/shipping info.

Thanks,
Tino

Download this image to your computer for full size viewing, or use the Magnify tool in your browser once loaded.
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[LCD Gauges]

Aventador gauges in the making. The most requested style so far! It starts with an image and then I begin setting the backdrop.

Soon it will resemble the original photo with moving needles and numbers in high resolution.


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[vaydor]

also will thiss work on a 7inch windows tablet?

[vaydor]

also what componants are required to work with it such as sensor componant
thanks

[vaydor]

mabey you can pull the PSD files from this

http://kb3zow.deviantart.com/art/Aventador-Dash-1-0-469524498

[vaydor]

you bezel guy makes for all speedos?

[LCD Gauges]

also will thiss work on a 7inch windows tablet?

Yes, but I may have to redo the graphics to make it fit properly. Obviously the gauges will appear a bit smaller, but the functionality
will be the same.


also what componants are required to work with it such as sensor componant
thanks
The non-basic models will accept 5 to 15 VDC digital input and PWM, and 5 to 15 Volt analog or variable DC signal. More info is available in the PDF.


your bezel guy makes for all speedos?
My bezel guy is a forum member and friend. We initially setup bezel fabrication for GTM and FFR kit cars. When you're ready, I can
ask if he is able to work with custom setups.

As for the PSD file, thank you for the link but this has to be my material as it will be sold as a product.

[vaydor]

Ok well il be looking to get this in 7 inch if possible so I can uterlize my bracket and it will be a better fit for my dash looking forward to seeing Demo
Thanks

[vaydor]

This will work on a Infiniti g35 setup right?

[LCD Gauges]

This will work on a Infiniti g35 setup right?

I can't see why it wouldn't. What year and engine code?

[vaydor]

I can't see why it wouldn't. What year and engine code?

2004 5AT coupe
engine VQ35DE

[vaydor]

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/16297200216613893497?q=bosch+air+fuel+wideband+sen sor&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=894&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.133178914,d.d24&ion=1&tch=1&ech=1&psi=i27gV8asIobeU7bMq4gK.1474326162810.5&prds=paur:ClkAsKraX8nbqX7xASf-mLqfO-bNsJEaPzICwq4N4x0UT8sZqvyhE_LH-rIYHsX-Waxd7i94ybtHYF3jjDZUS9GBHxAyQE-dbNocS8hx0w-iMvCTNOja3GeboxIZAFPVH71hcdyGK-tms2VAY1Qzx0PzTPHZ1Q&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_r8b-xJzPAhWILMAKHfqND-8Q8wIItAIwBA

is this all i would need to read wideband? this can plug right into your box?

[LCD Gauges]

You would also need the harness that connects to the sensor and the signal line would plug into my system.


https://www.google.com/shopping/product/16297200216613893497?q=bosch+air+fuel+wideband+sen sor&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=894&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.133178914,d.d24&ion=1&tch=1&ech=1&psi=i27gV8asIobeU7bMq4gK.1474326162810.5&prds=paur:ClkAsKraX8nbqX7xASf-mLqfO-bNsJEaPzICwq4N4x0UT8sZqvyhE_LH-rIYHsX-Waxd7i94ybtHYF3jjDZUS9GBHxAyQE-dbNocS8hx0w-iMvCTNOja3GeboxIZAFPVH71hcdyGK-tms2VAY1Qzx0PzTPHZ1Q&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_r8b-xJzPAhWILMAKHfqND-8Q8wIItAIwBA

is this all i would need to read wideband? this can plug right into your box?

[vaydor]

can you provide a link to the product please?

[vaydor]

any updates on the aventador gauges ? :D

[LCD Gauges]

Still tweaking graphics. It has been a busy week, but I'll try to have a static screen by the weekend at least.

[vaydor]

cant wait!

[KENS80V]

Will this system have an odometer?

[LCD Gauges]

You can order a basic system if you're using the LCDi as a secondary display with odometer, or the complete system which has an Odometer, tripA, trib B

Options and pricing breakdown
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58667&d=1474072157

[vaydor]

no updates?

[LCD Gauges]

I did promise an update, but I'm far from finished. This is just a rough outline of what I have completed so far.

The graphics had to be programmed from scratch because the image file was not good enough for resolution.

I'm hoping to have the needles and tach ring finished by end of the week so the video demo can be uploaded, then I can worry about colours
and adding to the graphics.
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[vaydor]

any more updates

[LCD Gauges]

Getting closer to complete. A very difficult gauge to replicate because of all the layering and detail.

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[vaydor]

ah ok i was hoping it would look a little more detailed

[LCD Gauges]

As per previos post, it's not complete. Maybe 50% with graphics, but most of the functions are done.

I'll have more updates after this weekend.

[tucker298]

Nice! Can't wait to see the finished product

[LCD Gauges]

Here is the mostly finished Aventador gauge. Colour tweaks and mior graphic enhancements forthcoming, but otherwise fully functional.

I'll have this model tested in my car and release a proper video, as well as update my website.

Thank you for being patient, this is a huge project!


http://youtu.be/5Ci3LwVdcGA

[vaydor]

any pics? cant load videos at this time :S

[LCD Gauges]

Parts have arrived for the final assembly. My goal is to have a new website launched with all of the system information, downloads, videos, etc. setup for
Jan 1. 2017.

The current website is out-dated and a bit basic, but you are welcome to read the latest while I work away. Notice that some of the links don't work yet
as I continue to format the page:
http://www.procision-auto.com/lcdgauges.html

The first circuit board test is scheduled for this coming weekend as the final bits get soldered into place. These proto-type circuit boards are outstanding and
are better than some production level boards that I've worked on. I'll be using this company again for future projects, no questions asked!

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[LCD Gauges]

I'd like to unveil the new website which was redesigned to promote the LCD gauge systems. There are still a few documents to complete
and some demo software to upload for user evaluation, but otherwise I'm ready to take orders.

Also note, I am providing Data Loggers for those that don't want to change their gauges, but want
to record the performance of their vehicle.

If you have some free time, please navigate through the website and let me know if you have any questions about the software or hardware
that is available.

http://www.procision-auto.com
https://scontent.fykz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15871563_10155678295914148_5443022912575487263_n.j pg?oh=6fc84d50ad0523e6a42ed70df25513c9&oe=58EB7CFF

Once I have the User Manual, Install Manual, and Demo software uploaded I will start a new thread for taking orders. Alternatively, if you
like what you already see, feel free to message me to order your system at any time.

Thank you and Happy New Year!
Tino
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[tucker298]

i'm said early on i was interested in this product, then i was on the fence about it but with your latest videos and watching it unfold i'm getting very excited about it and getting the feeling this is a must have for my build. I'll send you a PM, nice work Tino.

[LCD Gauges]

i'm said early on i was interested in this product, then i was on the fence about it but with your latest videos and watching it unfold i'm getting very excited about it and getting the feeling this is a must have for my build. I'll send you a PM, nice work Tino.

Thank you! I've spent more time on this project than building the GTM over the last year.
Not because the car is not worthy, but because the amount of development and testing required
to reach a production level product is never-ending.


As I'm writing this I'm putting the finishing touches on the Data Logger Product Sheet which
will be uploaded to my website this weekend.


If you don't mind, I'll answer your PM questions here so everyone else can learn more as well.


Tablet Preference:


The Acer Switch 10 is what I chose after comparing several tablets. It has a low power design
with an LED backlight so it runs much cooler. This is critical for battery life, charge time,
and operating temperature while installed in the dash.


It has stereo front facing speakers which makes the tones more audible over the quite loud
GTM interior.


The dimensions also make it easier to install in the dash pod with minimal shimming of the
steering column.


Lastly, it has a 12 VDC power input which makes converting from the vehicle's electrical source
much simpler.


Start/Boot-up Time:


I've setup the tablet to enter sleep mode once the ignition is shut off. The allows about three
to four days of tablet battery life and a near instant boot-up when starting the vehicle (1-2 seconds).
You will see the gauges almost right away.


If you have to start from an "off-state" for any reason, the Acer Switch 10 will load to ready
desktop state in about seventeen seconds.


For those that don't drive their car every 3-4 days, I'm configuring a relay to charge the tablet
from the vehicle battery, or external USB port to prevent a "cold boot" condition.

[LCD Gauges]

It turns out I'll need a little more time to complete the PDF for the data logger, but here's a teaser of what i'm working on for the Playback Software. I'll most likely use an overlay style gauge cluster that floats over the video for maximum size.

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[LCD Gauges]

Data Logger promo sheet has been uploaded to the web site.

http://www.procision-auto.com/ProAuto/PRO_LCDi_100/PRO_DATA_PromoSheet.pdf

[LCD Gauges]

Software Demo release v1.0 for Windows operating systems. Try before you buy. 32 and 64 Bit versions available. Contact me to receive your trial copy. Visit www.procision-auto.com (http://www.procision-auto.com/) for more information. I'll have this uploaded to the website later this week!

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[LCD Gauges]

A little update as I continue to find more gauges to simulate. Coming soon will be some Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Custom skins.

Here are some high resolution images that can be modified and used a backdrops.

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[narkosys]

considering what happened concerning that tw4twaffle who stole your pictures, it would be a good idea to water mark your images.

N

[LCD Gauges]

Thanks Narkosys, that's a good idea moving forward.

In this instance, the image they ripped off was a hand-drawn representation of a module which had little value. More importantly,
they copied my text word-for-word that describes the operation of my system and NOT theirs. Pathetic.

I've gone as far as taking my own photos, designing logos, and editing PDF's from scratch (like most professionals do). This is what
the website images started from:

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and ended up like this with a bit of editing. Take note you thieves! :D

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The only image I haven't created was the Top-Down Icon used for the Door/Hood/Hatch status which was taken by Michael (RumRunner) and credit was given.


We'll wait patiently for the competitors to review these last messages and respond to my email. I know they are watching, and they may even drop by to say hello. :mad:

[tucker298]

Tino,

I'm floored by that low life company and by that "tw4twaffle" (thanks for the new word narkosys) Vaydor! Thanks Tino for your hard work and innovation, our community is better off for it.

[LCD Gauges]

Thanks Brent, you're a gent and a scholar! :)

By the way, your module is coming along nicely. I'll be doing a complete bench test soon (will video for you) and then an in-car trail before sending it off.

[LCD Gauges]

New skin release - Aventador for the LCDi - 100 system. For more information, visit

www.procision-auto.com

https://scontent.fyzd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16711493_1446510438706351_9005109327659329917_n.jp g?oh=f3bb583dca97dde7bbcc6068b2aec6da&oe=5934EACE

[beeman]

That is beautiful

[T4Twins]

Tino that looks incredible. Do you have pictures of that skin installed in your car. I'm trying to get a better idea for creating a custom bezel around the screen ?

[beeman]

It would be really easy to 3d print a bezel then dip it (hydrographics) in carbon fiber or whatever pattern you want.
Here's a pic of dipped plastic

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-9440-1474752830.jpg

[LCD Gauges]

Thanks for the compliments guys! I can't wait to finish the demo and show everyone.


Tino that looks incredible. Do you have pictures of that skin installed in your car. I'm trying to get a better idea for creating a custom bezel around the screen ?

At the moment my dash is ripped apart to repair a clicking in the steering column.

What I can do is photograph / video the dash pod on my desk with the screen and bezel in place to give you some idea.


It would be really easy to 3d print a bezel then dip it (hydrographics) in carbon fiber or whatever pattern you want.
Here's a pic of dipped plastic

That looks really cool! At the moment my bezel is skinned with actual carbon fiber material, but I didn't do a very good job. A 3D printer has been on my wish list for a while,
and it may be time to pull the trigger.

I'll checkout the hydrographics. Gene (FastThings) did an amazing job with his interior; this could be a better alternative to skinning with CF cloth.

[T4Twins]

Tino are you able to set this for cars running turbos also to monitor boost and such?

[LCD Gauges]

Tino are you able to set this for cars running turbos also to monitor boost and such?

Yes, this is already an option. The manifold pressure can be taken from OBDII or a quicker reacting real-time sensor.

There are other optional inputs like oil pressure, fuel pressure, TPS, and more that can be seen on Page 1 of this thread.

[LCD Gauges]

Here are some screen shots for T4Twins

Additional sensors can be added depending on options. They can be displayed full time, or switched
on/off using the configuration file or the Menu screen.
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By pressing the MENU button a selection screen will appear where you can select which gauges
you want to see, or clear the screen for a less busy read-out.
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This is an example of how the gauges might appear with just basic information showing.
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I will also do a video to demonstrate all of the features in real-time and give some details as to
how it all works.

[T4Twins]

Looks really good to me. Looking forward to the video. Should be sending you the deposit next week to get you started on mine. Want to get it in sooner then later since the wiring and such will be started on next week and hopefully also getting my engine back from getting its upgrades :cool:

[LCD Gauges]

Here is a quick walk-through video of the system in real-time. Please don't mind the video quality as I'm recording a computer screen with a camera. I really need to invest
in video capture software to illustrate the correct resolution of the display.

Even the compression used to make the video for YouTube format degrades the quality to a lower level. For that reason, I'm only going to make the video available via this
link and cannot be found by searching YouTube or my channel! Please refer to the other screen shots in this thread as they represent the actual graphic quality, NOT this video!


https://youtu.be/LOTENivKppw

[LCD Gauges]

Good news about Windows 10 - you can disable the lock screen! That means, the display will not show a Windows background when the tablet comes out of sleep mode.

It now goes directly to the gauges. I'm still testing over night to make sure, but it seems like it's going to act
like an OEM LCD gauge! I'll redo the video to show the changes.

Here's a link for anyone that wants to edit their lock screen on personal computers:
https://windows.gadgethacks.com/how-to/disable-lock-screen-windows-10-0162965/

[crash]

I know I haven't said much here about this, but this is such a cool project. I hope many take advantage of what you have created here. I have considered creating something like this for racing purposes, but then, low and behold, the major manufacturers came out with what I had in mind. Granted it costs $5k, but to do the work myself, or hire someone like yourself to do it, well, I would probably end up spending much more.

I have not seen such OEM type stuff as you are making out there yet, and hopefully you will sell a lot of these.

[LCD Gauges]

Thanks Mike, I value your opinions and comments as one of the long standing members on this forum. Aside from your experience with the GTM, you have a vast automotive engineering / racing background.


This project continues to grow and evolve on a daily basis (literally) and I'm constantly investing resources to make it better.


Coincidentally, I priced out a set of Autometer gauges earlier this week for a customer. Just the basic four (Speed, Tach, temp, and fuel level) totalled ~ $600 CDN + taxes.


Hopefully I can turn a few heads with this system and enhance the Supercar status of the GTM/818 (and others) with a more modern solution to analog/mechanical gauges.

[beeman]

Couple questions...
Do you have the option of running 2 displays - ie gauge cluster plus console display?
What are the user input options, ie for navigating menus? I'm assuming touch screen, but that seems awkward in the gauge cluster. Is there a 'joystick' option like in an Audi or other OEM infotainment systems?

[LCD Gauges]

Do you have the option of running 2 displays - ie gauge cluster plus console display?

Yes, the "200" model that I have on the backburner uses two processors and two touchscreens. One for the dash and one for the control screen (also can display additional info).



What are the user input options, ie for navigating menus? I'm assuming touch screen, but that seems awkward in the gauge cluster. Is there a 'joystick' option like in an Audi or other OEM infotainment systems?

At the moment the Basic 100 version uses the touch screen.

The advanced 100 version uses touchscreen, wireless keyboard, and a small toggle stick. It moves in all directions and has a "hat" click function to enter the selection. It's not as pretty at the Audi/BMW controllers, but it
gets the job done.

I've also toyed with the idea of using a smaller 2 x 4 " touchscreen as a controller. I have a video of that on YouTube; I'll link it when I get home, but here are some photos in the mean time. I think it would look cool integrated
just above the shifter.

Another idea that is a bit further down the road is using an in dash infotainment system to control the LCDi. I've installed one in my car that is Android based with a 7 inch touchscreen. I'm learning to write code and figure out
methods to interface both units (most likely USB).

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This is very similar to the unit in my car right now:
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[LCD Gauges]

The first modules are shipping and it's a humbling feeling. When I purchased the GTM, the thought of creating my own module and LCD gauge system never crossed my mind, let alone developing a product
to distribute.

This is the second revision of hardware that integrates an interface board and it's own 5 Volt DC power supply.
It's more compact, lightweight, and higher efficiency (less power consumption) than my original proto-type.
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As the stages of development pass, the areas for improvements continue to grow. I've found a few setbacks
with my process that include an ink-jet printer that is just shy of acceptable resolution for printing labels.
It also does not print on 11" x 17" sized paper. I'll have to find a laser printer that can handle the task,
or perhaps just have it professionally printed.

Now that I've discovered the weak links in the build flow, it will make subsequent deliveries much quicker.

I'd like to thank Brent for taking the leap of faith and being the first to try this product. I'm looking forward
to his review and constructive comments to help me improve my practices and design.

Within the next few days I'll be posting the Installation Manual and User Manual for the 100 model.

The Aventador Skin and Demo software will also be ready fairly soon!

Contact me if you would like more information or to receive a copy of the Demo software.

Thank you!
Tino

[LCD Gauges]

The Aventador skin is now functional and ready for use. Contact me if you would like a Windows based
demo version to try on your home computer.

These screen shots illustrate a few configurations that can be had (formatted for 10" LCD screen):

"Lamp Test" with most indicators shown
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Accelerometer overlay
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Basic display for a less busy looking gauge
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For future options, I'm working on a steering angle sensor that will log data for track analysis.
This sliding potentiometer can be mechanically linked to the rack to indicate front wheel angle.

http://www.potentiometers.com/Images/PS100.jpg

Lastly, I'm very close at configuring the OBDII code. CAN bus is closer than J1850; I'm hoping to
have both going for early April.
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These are the PID's that I'd like to have working for the first release, along with the ability to
clear error codes:

#define ENGINE_COOLANT_TEMP 0x05
#define FUEL_PRESSURE 0x0A
#define MANIFOLD_PRES 0x0B
#define ENGINE_RPM 0x0C
#define VEHICLE_SPEED 0x0D
#define IGN_TIMING 0x0E
#define INTAKE_AIR_TEMP 0x0F
#define MAF_SENSOR 0x10
#define THROTTLE_POSN 0X11
#define O2_VOLTAGE 0x14
#define ENGINE_RUN_TIME 0x1F
#define CYCLES_SINCE_CLR 0x30
#define DISTANCE_SINCE_CLR 0x31
#define BARO_PRESSURE 0x33
#define OUTSIDE_AIR_TEMP 0x46
#define OIL_TEMP 0x5C
#define INJECTOR_TIMING 0x5D
#define DEMAND_TORQUE 0x61

[LCD Gauges]

I'm working with another member who would like to order a custom, dual screen setup
for his car. This would fall under the LCDi-200 order number (as opposed to LCDi-100).

Here is an example of the main display screen with the console remote touch-screen
(which can also display data):

Main dash display with Aventador skin

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Remote screen (minimal clutter)
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"Stats" option selected (example of possible info).

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Note: the electronic engine "START" button changes to "STOP" when the engine is running

[The Stig]

Dude, that is so cool! And it gives you Soooooo much more functionality than we get with standard gauges.

Great Job!

Mike

[LCD Gauges]

Thanks Mike,

If it already isn't apparent, I'm aiming to have a system that can encompass all OEM system capabilities and then some!

The project has already exceeded my initial goals, and there is so much more to explore.

Self-driving GTM? Hmmm? :p

[LCD Gauges]

After a few emails of customising, the evolution of the remote screen is quite impressive.
As a promise to our mystery customer, I will not show
the latest version of this graphic.

I'm sure he will start a build thread soon and share his setup personally.

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Next on the agenda is finishing off the OBDII code and begin working on the next LCD skin/
I think it will turn out just as nice as the Aventador skin!

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[LCD Gauges]

OBDII CAN and J1850 protocols now ready to order!

This feature has the ability to read codes and display the associated fault.
You can clear codes as well as scan numerous PID's for engine information.

The OBDII will be a standard feature on all LCDi kits (excluding basic versions).
Up to 8 PID's can be logged with J1850 protocol and up to 20 PIDs can be
logged with the CAN bus protocol.

Examples of PIDs (if supported by your PCM):
- Injector Pulse Width
- 02 Sensor ratio
- Intake Air Temp
- Throttle Position
- Manifold Pressure
- Barometric Pressure
- Ignition Timing
- Engine Temperature
- Short and Long Term Fuel Trim

For a more extensive list of OBDII PID's and general info see this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs

Note that the Expanded option price has dropped because it results in
Less wiring and module development on my end. The data can be hardwired to
the DLC harness, or you may purchased a DLC to DB-9 connector for $25
that plugs into the vehicles existing port.

This is an example of the display screen on the LCDi200 system. The OBDII
data will be displayed on the main screen for the LCDi100 verions.
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Pricing for the LCDi100 kit
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[tucker298]

those future skins look amazing! can't wait to see how this products develops over time!

[LCD Gauges]

I know my bezel could use some professional help, but if you can see past my scratch work, here's a quick
demo of the boot-up time of the LCD system


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNct-Or3nEw

[beeman]

Impressive, much quicker than I would have thought. Is the table in standby mode?

[LCD Gauges]

Yes, when Ignition is shut off, a relay opens and cuts power to the tablet which allows it to enter sleep mode.

[LCD Gauges]

Pricing update and LCD size change. Now using 10 inch and 9 inch screen sizes. Pricing remains the same for the
display when going from 8 inch to 9 inch.

ODBII has two options - hardwired to harness, or dongle (plug into DLC connector).

AFR added at $50 option for wideband sensor input.

Thanks for reading!

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[LCD Gauges]

We have a game changer here!

I've been evolving the design of this system to have more OEM functionality, look, and feel. The
latest update is incorporating an embedded controller and dedicated LCD screen as opposed to
using generic tablets.

The new hardware addresses many issues with screen size, boot-up time, connectivity, and lower
power consumption. It also eliminates the need to charge the tablet batteries, or use a maintenance
charger when the car is not driven for several days.

The controller boots up very fast and can handle up to three LCD screens at4K HD resolution. I'm
not sure that having that much graphic capability will be cost-effective, or necessary but the processing
power is there to make things smooth.

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Total system weight will be equal, or less.

Power consumption will be lower as well.

This system will now be able to compete with 'the big boys' for similar costs that I have been able
to offer. Once I have figured out the module enclosures and any supporting circuitry I'll start a new
thread and announce the pricing.



Forthcoming Changes:
1.) 9" screen main LCD screen (8.31" wide x 5.0" high)
2.) 7" x 4" touch screen for remote control and auxiliary display
3.) Embedded controllers

There have been many requests for an audio MP3/Radio and backup camera have been made for
the Remote Screen which I'll be implementing as well.

[tucker298]

wow, nice work Tino. This is so great for the community! We're lucky to have you.

[crash]

I'm losing my mind right now.

For me, one of the biggest things that made a GTM stand out as a kit car was the interior, and largely the dash. With this advancement to near OEM style electronics, yet customizable for each GTM(or whatever) this takes the entire project up a notch. These days people are attracted to the outside styling of a car, but need to almost immediately get in the car and see what the interior feels like. This project has the potential to bring the interior experience to the next level. If I was building a street car GTM I would be ordering this. No doubt about it.

[LCD Gauges]

I'm losing my mind right now.

I swear, Mike hasn't received a dime for his compliments, but maybe I should mail him a big fat cheque?!

After more testing this weekend, the new screens are ready for the big stage. I just need to find some
enclosures to contain the controller boards, otherwise everything is directly compatible with the system.

The only tell-tale giving away the secret that this product isn't a 100% OEM LCD cluster, is that a small
"HDMI" icon will appear in the upper left corner of the main screen when the vehicle is powered. The icon
stays on the screen for 3 seconds, then disappears.
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There may be a method to shut off the HDMI indicator, or I can simply disguise it with a "Lamp Test"
that illuminates all turn signal, high beam, and warning icons when the ignition is turned on.

The next step is to format the graphics and touch screen areas for the new LCD sizes. An easy, but
time consuming task! The option for the end user to plug in their own screen still exists; the module
still communicates over USB 2.0/3.0 on a Window's operating system.

Stay tuned for a new thread and demo video once the graphics are complete. Thanks for reading!
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[pazzom3]

I swear, Mike hasn't received a dime for his compliments, but maybe I should mail him a big fat cheque?!

After more testing this weekend, the new screens are ready for the big stage. I just need to find some
enclosures to contain the controller boards, otherwise everything is directly compatible with the system.

The only tell-tale giving away the secret that this product isn't a 100% OEM LCD cluster, is that a small
"HDMI" icon will appear in the upper left corner of the main screen when the vehicle is powered. The icon
stays on the screen for 3 seconds, then disappears.
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There may be a method to shut off the HDMI indicator, or I can simply disguise it with a "Lamp Test"
that illuminates all turn signal, high beam, and warning icons when the ignition is turned on.

The next step is to format the graphics and touch screen areas for the new LCD sizes. An easy, but
time consuming task! The option for the end user to plug in their own screen still exists; the module
still communicates over USB 2.0/3.0 on a Window's operating system.

Stay tuned for a new thread and demo video once the graphics are complete. Thanks for reading!
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Can't wait for this to be completed!

[LCD Gauges]

Testing is complete and the first couple of kits are rolling out already!

New options for displays will be: 10.1 inch, 9 inch, and 7 inch

Some new toys for the system are: Heads-up Display (7 inch), and Audio Player, Huracan skin

I will start a new thread soon with higher resolution photos and pricing.

Low Res Samples of the screens
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Low Res Screen Shots (closer to display quality)

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Message me if you'd like to order ahead of the new thread.

Thanks,
Tino

[Fraser D]

Well done Tino on producing an awesome product!

[Edgeman]

How do you make a power window drop (half inch or so) on opening door?

Tino can this be done with your system? From another post.

[LCD Gauges]

How do you make a power window drop (half inch or so) on opening door?

Tino can this be done with your system? From another post.

Anything is possible.

In a perfect world, the module would sense when the door handle is
moved, then send a timed pulse to the electric motor.

After a preset time, the module would then pop the door open using a
solenoid.

On the closing of the door, the module would wait for the 'door close'
switch to engage, then reverse the window motor. There would
have to be a limit switch to indicate the upper travel stop… or possibly
use 'current flow ' to stop the drive signal when the motor is loaded
(Window at max travel) .

The trouble with using 'current' is that is stresses
the window motor which could lead to early failure.

[LCD Gauges]

Happy new year everyone! I hope 2018 has started out well for everyone.

I know I've been late on creating a new thread for the LCD gauges, but it has been a challenge switching
hardware and working out some bugs.

I'm just finishing up a couple of new modules and then I'll feel better about announcing the improved setup.
Until then, here's a tease of some upcoming work.

A custom touch-screen controller for an air-ride system (Accuair).
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New menu screens capable of launching 3rd part executables
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More versatile LCD screens for better fitting
(actual photo of Infiniti G35 pod with 9 inch display)
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[rev2xs]

God damn it, i need money.. lol

[LCD Gauges]

Just sell your analog gauges and you're 2/3 of the way there! :cool: