Registering a MKIV in TX issues, engine with no VIN? HELP?!!

[6t8dart]

I bought a rebuilt engine last weekend, however, when we were looking for the vin stamping on the block, I ran into an issue. The left side was a strong stamping, but it gets lighter as you go to the right, at about the half way point, its gets so light that it is illegible for the last 6 or 7 digits.

Am I screwed? Don't I need a bill of sale with the VIN of the engine to register a kit in TX?

At the worst, I could remove the crank and pistons and get another block machined to fit the parts, but I really dont want to do this.

[Bren]

Is that what is required on the TX registration form? I didn't have to provide an engine VIN number for Wisconsin. What would people do who have brand new engines that have never been in another registered car?

[68GT500MAN]

Is this a Texas requirement?

[6t8dart]

This is what the Texas website says...

Custom-Built Cars
If you have a custom-built car in Texas, the registration process is slightly different. You'll need to have your vehicle inspected to make sure all safety equipment is in working condition.

You'll also need to apply for a vehicle identification number (VIN) by visiting your local Texas DMV office with:

A completed Rebuilt Vehicle Statement (Form VTR-61).
Receipts or bills of sales for all major parts you used in constructing your vehicle.
Payment for any applicable fees.
When you're ready, follow the steps outlined on our Texas Title Transfers and Car Registration pages to register and title your custom car.

http://www.txdmv.gov/txdmv-forms/doc_download/1272-vtr-61-rebuilt-vehicle-statement

Im really a bit confused, I have heard people say you need a VIN of the engine, but the form asks for a P/N. Whats a P/N for rebuilt 302 engine?

[Arvin]

Have you talked to the engine builder and asked for one? I would require a bill of sale with the engine number on it.

[kkcalm5]

6T8DART
looking at what you are showing all you will need is a receipt you got from the motor rebuilder. to prove you bought it
P/N is the (part number)
should be on the Receipt if there is one
hope this helps
Kevin

[Paul R]

Getting a Texas Title and Registration

I bought a donor car. They do not care what the old VINs except to show that the parts are not stolen.



I know there have been some concerns about getting a Texas Title and Registration. So, here is the current process.
1. You will need to contact your local Auto Theft Taskforce. These are usually setup so that they cover several counties. Contact your local police department or sheriffs office to find out how to contact the taskforce. They will set up a time to meet and view the vehicle. You have to show that the parts on it are not stolen. Once they confirm that the parts are not stolen, they will give you a signed form.

2. Then you have to go to the TXDOT registration office for the region you live in. You have to show proof of ownership and a photo of the vehicle. You will pay them a few dollars and they will issue a VIN.

3. THEN you have to go to you county tax office to get a Title. At this point expect to pay taxes on the car just as if you were purchasing a car from a person or company. Maybe you will get lucky and not have to pay.

4. Now, you have to get the vehicle inspected as you do annually for all cars. Under the new one sticker rule, the inspector should give you a form to take back to the county tax office.

5. Back at the county tax office, you will now pay for the registration. They will verify that you got it inspected before they will register it and give you plates.

I hope this helps out. I have just gone through this process so...yes in Texas you can still buy a kit and get it registered.

[Paul R]

I have a longer post below. I wanted to add that if I were you, just call your local auto theft task force. The police or sheriff should have the phone number to call. Your new VIN will not be the same as the engine so you should not have anything to worry about.

[6t8dart]

The engine was not built by a builder, it was built by a regular Joe. I have a bill of sale with mine and his name on it, I tried to write the stamped number on it, but we could not make it out.

[Paul R]

Again I don't think you will need any of that. I did not have to show any paperwork. Maybe it is different in my county but I got mine register in June without any problems. It just took time. You HAVE to show the car to the Auto Theft Task Force Officer so that he can sign off on the paperwork. Start with that step. Then you will have a VIN and there is nothing to worry about.

[dallas_]

Go to this website and click on the "Assembled Vehicle Manual" for specific information.
Chapter 4 "Replicas"
http://www.txdmv.gov/forms

You will need to 'prove' the engine is not stolen.

[68GT500MAN]

A lot of the engines used in roadsters do not have a number stamped on the block. That is why "numbers matching" does not make any sense for early Mustangs. You can get correct casting dates and other hoses etc. but no vin or any matching number on the block (unless it was a GT350).
Doug

[ram_g]

Sorry but lots of misinformation in this thread. I and several others have successfully registered and titled FFRs under the new Street Rod and Custom Vehicle law and there is absolutely no need to see any sort of police task force and no need to get an assigned VIN (you use the FFR number for the VIN). Yes they want a motor number but they don't check it as long as you have a bill of sale for the motor. Please go to the other forums ffcars dot com and clubcobra dot com and search there. On the latter site especially there is a long recent thread on Texas procedures.

[CrosbyGreg]

I just completed my registration last week in Harris County. Only things required for motor were bill of sale and photograph of motor serial number. I took a picture of the number stamped at back of block by intake manifold.

Greg