View Full Version : Does the 818 bare any resemblance any pre-1967 car?
hawirick
02-11-2015, 03:25 PM
Looks like there may be a slight hitch in registering an 818S for the street in the ALoHa state.
Although there is a "loophole" in the DMV regulations for replica cars such as the ubiquitous Cobra kits and Lotus 7 kits there are no provisions for a non-compliant homemade car that isn't a replica.
I thought I'd ask the forum if anyone has opinions on any European roadsters the 818 has even a vague similarity to. My opinion is, the more obscure the better.
Thank YOu and ALoHa,
Rick
flynntuna
02-11-2015, 03:37 PM
A couple off the top of my head, lancia stratos, and Porsche 718. The Lancia was in the early '70s.
wleehendrick
02-11-2015, 03:48 PM
Put a tub on the back and call it a Lotus Europa!
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-jkl/Lotus-Europa-red-ra-lr.jpg
RM1SepEx
02-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Rick, there is a completed, registered 818S in Honolulu, contact Aloha818 for information on what he did and check out his car!
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?11586-Honolulu-818S-Hana-(work-build)-Thread
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?11586-Honolulu-818S-Hana-(work-build)-Thread/page21 check post 812 for AWESOME photos of this beauty, he did a great job!
wleehendrick
02-11-2015, 04:45 PM
As of his last post, he was getting ready to register, but never posted results. Hope it worked out for him.
freds
02-11-2015, 08:23 PM
Looks like there may be a slight hitch in registering an 818S for the street in the ALoHa state.
Although there is a "loophole" in the DMV regulations for replica cars such as the ubiquitous Cobra kits and Lotus 7 kits there are no provisions for a non-compliant homemade car that isn't a replica.
I thought I'd ask the forum if anyone has opinions on any European roadsters the 818 has even a vague similarity to. My opinion is, the more obscure the better.
Thank YOu and ALoHa,
Rick
67 Alfa Tipo33
Silvertop
02-11-2015, 09:42 PM
It's a stretch, but it does bear a bit of a resemblance to a Porsche 550 Spyder...........
flynntuna
02-11-2015, 11:34 PM
1966 Ferrari 250 LM
wallace18
02-12-2015, 07:25 AM
The COO of the 818 does not state the kit as a replica as does the MK4, 33 and Type 65. IMO you would have to falsify documents to get the result you want. Not a good idea IMO.
freds
02-12-2015, 02:40 PM
The COO of the 818 does not state the kit as a replica as does the MK4, 33 and Type 65. IMO you would have to falsify documents to get the result you want. Not a good idea IMO.
I have only studied the Texas regs. The fact that the FFR COO does not state it is a replica leaves the field open. The DMV treats the COO from FFR simply as another purchased component of your "Assembled" custom vehicle. It is not a COO in the traditional sense of a complete car. No fraud or document alteration required! The regs then refer to "Resembles"....which is satisfactorily vague and clearly open to interpretation..."in the eye of the beholder".
fred
hawirick
02-12-2015, 03:39 PM
Thank you Fred. That's pretty much how I understand it. I've been thinking that my intent to build a replica Ferrari (insert whatever car) may be enough. I guess I may need to "adjust" my sincere intent. That may be wishful thinking but if I need to activate my "plan B", it will, indeed, become a replica. I'm really liking the 1966 Ferrari 250 LM pictures (mahalo flynntuna). Thank you for all of the other suggestions too. The RSK looks good also. Just to bad that the Porsche 918 is not a pre-'67 because it bears an extraordinary resemblance to the 818s (or maybe it's the other way around...).
AloHa,
Rick
walt555
02-12-2015, 09:07 PM
Hope everything goes well!
Looks like there may be a slight hitch in registering an 818S for the street in the ALoHa state.
Although there is a "loophole" in the DMV regulations for replica cars such as the ubiquitous Cobra kits and Lotus 7 kits there are no provisions for a non-compliant homemade car that isn't a replica.
I thought I'd ask the forum if anyone has opinions on any European roadsters the 818 has even a vague similarity to. My opinion is, the more obscure the better.
Thank YOu and ALoHa,
Rick
Rick,
Have you taken a look through the documents on this site: http://www.bipac.net/semaga/TagTitleToolbox_HI.pdf
Hope it helps....
Ray
walt555
02-13-2015, 03:14 PM
Hey Rick,
Try taking a look at some 67 Can am cars. At least some simularities in motor layout. Maybe we can reskin to ferrari P4. That would be nuts!
Walt
hawirick
02-13-2015, 04:47 PM
Thank you, Ray. I have looked at this document and, frankly, it doesn't offer any comfort. Seems like:
"Street Rod Replica Vehicle. A vehicle that was assembled from a manufactured kit, either as:
(1) A complete kit to construct a new vehicle consisting of a prefabricated body and chassis;
(2) Components manufactured before 1968; or
(3) Components manufactured after 1967 to resemble a vehicle manufactured before 1968;
and that has been modified in its body style or design through the use of nonoriginal or
reproduction components, such as the frame, engine, drive train, suspension, or brakes, in a
manner that does not adversely affect its safe performance as a motor vehicle or render the vehicle
unlawful for use on public highways."
is the closest thing for the 818 here. The regulation does not state that "manufactured kit" needs to be designated by the manufacturer as a replica .
Mahalo,
Rick
hawirick
02-13-2015, 04:52 PM
Thank you Walt.
I always wanted a 1967 McLaren M6A! Great idea!
Mahalo,
Rick