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3kcarbon
04-26-2011, 05:33 PM
I'm having a time getting a good fit with my Mk 4 trunk. It fits well with the upper rear body and sides. When you adjust it to fit the curve along the tail lights it is pulled in on the lower rear body. I have the standard length rear quick jack spacers on it now. I made a shorter set trying to pull in the rear body but it seems a little extreme for that. Any ideas to try?
I'm starting to think my trunk may be warped for some reason. It was stored in my basement for a year with no stress or weight on it in cool temps. Could it have been released from the assembly fixture and changed shape?

Jeff Kleiner
04-27-2011, 05:24 AM
Carbon,
While we wait to see what FFR says I will tell you that the valance to trunklid intersection on my Mk3 was off every bit that much. The Mk4 was off as well, however by a bit less than what yours appears to be. In both cases I was able to bring them into alignment by adjusting the quickjack spacer AND trunk latch pin lengths.

Good luck,
Jeff (Fan wiring Poobah)

Mark Dougherty
04-27-2011, 05:56 AM
also
install the trunk seal ( came with the kit ) this will space it out.
If you need more than that there are some rubber bumpers ( in the kit ) to help align panels.
I hope this helps
Later
Mark D

Jeff Kleiner
04-27-2011, 06:23 AM
Mark makes a good point. When I commented above I assumed that you already had it installed but if not do so because it definitely changes things.

Jeff

Someday I Suppose
04-27-2011, 08:05 AM
What Mark said, the bulb seal might not be enough, on mine I will have a couple rubber bumpers at the bottom and along the top deck edge in the hinge area to make it right. The bumpers on the bottom will also help with a more positive latch as the trunk won't be able to move around as much.

-Scott

3kcarbon
04-27-2011, 03:43 PM
Thanks guys. I did remove and reinstall the body to try the bulb seal. The seal on the lower trunk floor is working against me. If I pull in on the quick jacks it totally pounds the lower bulb seal. I hate to monkey up the body if the trunk is at fault. We have had the same issue on aircraft cowl doors being curved too much and had to make relief cuts in the inner panel and rebond it to the correct curve. Don't really want to do that but it may be the most correct fix.

rich grsc
04-27-2011, 06:27 PM
We have had the same issue on aircraft cowl doors being curved too much and had to make relief cuts in the inner panel and rebond it to the correct curve. Don't really want to do that but it may be the most correct fix.

NO, you wont have to do that. My Mrk III was worse than that, but the quick jack bolts, and rubber seal makes it fit well. No way should you need to be cutting on the lid.

3kcarbon
04-27-2011, 07:52 PM
Good luck,
Jeff (Fan wiring Poobah)

Jeff use your full title.... Grand Poobah of Fan Wiring. If ya got it flaunt it...

Someday I Suppose
04-28-2011, 08:27 AM
Not the bulb seal on the aluminum, but around the trunk opening, right?

And you may need more then just bulb seal, there are also a bunch of round rubber bumpers in two sizes that come with the kit, you may need them. On the bottom lip, you may also need to have the latch in place. On mine its the bumper holding the trunk out flush with the body, and the latch holding it down tight that gets it where it needs to be. When closing it you almost pull back on the trunk as you close it, and then latch.

_Scott

3kcarbon
04-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Not the bulb seal on the aluminum, but around the trunk opening, right?

And you may need more then just bulb seal, there are also a bunch of round rubber bumpers in two sizes that come with the kit, you may need them. On the bottom lip, you may also need to have the latch in place. On mine its the bumper holding the trunk out flush with the body, and the latch holding it down tight that gets it where it needs to be. When closing it you almost pull back on the trunk as you close it, and then latch.

_Scott

Yes the lower floor seal gets pounded into nothing when I use shorter than standard QJ sleeves to pull in the rear body. It looks like its a bad fit for everybody not just me. FFR has not replied which tells me something.... I understand it has to be made to fit since it won't fit any other way. I guess thats the long and short of it. So far nobody has posted they didn't have any issue at all.

Jeff Kleiner
04-28-2011, 07:13 PM
I'm still of the opinion that most if not all of it can be made up by pulling the lower valance in with the QJs and trunk latch pin. How about pulling the bulb seal off of the rear lip of the trunk floor and trying it without to see if you can get there? If so trim the lip enough to accomodate reinstalling the bulb seal. Thinking about it now, I noticed when putting the Mk4 body on recently that it is a tighter fit along that lip than it is on my Mk3 which barely compresses the bulb.

Jeff (G.P.O.F.W.)

3kcarbon
04-28-2011, 11:22 PM
I'm still of the opinion that most if not all of it can be made up by pulling the lower valance in with the QJs and trunk latch pin. How about pulling the bulb seal off of the rear lip of the trunk floor and trying it without to see if you can get there? If so trim the lip enough to accomodate reinstalling the bulb seal. Thinking about it now, I noticed when putting the Mk4 body on recently that it is a tighter fit along that lip than it is on my Mk3 which barely compresses the bulb.

Jeff (G.P.O.F.W.)

You are correct as usual O Grand Poobah of Trunk Alignment.
Foolish me I expected the trunk to fit and align without a fight...

Jeff Kleiner
04-29-2011, 04:26 AM
Foolish me I expected the trunk to fit and align without a fight...

Ah, naïvety ;)
Have you hung the doors yet?

Jeff

Indy14
04-29-2011, 07:03 AM
With first hand and onsite observations, IMHO it should be GPFFRB.
Grand Poobah Factory Five Roadster Builder

3kcarbon
04-29-2011, 03:46 PM
With first hand and onsite observations, IMHO it should be GPFFRB.
Grand Poobah Factory Five Roadster Builder

Hmmm that would make a rather nice subject for a forum poll. We can get him a official title ordained by the membership.

3kcarbon
04-29-2011, 03:51 PM
Ah, naïvety ;)
Have you hung the doors yet?

Jeff

I'm waiting on installing the windshield before even thinking about that. Maybe this weekend. I've been fussing with the hood last couple of nights. If I can get the hood fit up perhaps the trunk will get jealous and snap in place.

Jeff Kleiner
04-30-2011, 05:10 AM
I'd really like to have "exalted" included in my title, assuming 3kcarbon (Noble Bestower of Forum Honorifics) approves.

BTW, Re; door fitting: I think you already know this but install the front splash panels before fussing with the doors. I cut slots in the rolled under portion of the rocker panels and tapped the bottom of the outer square tubing for fasteners---makes it quick and easy to adjust the lower body in or out to meet the bottom of the door. It's one of the nice Mk4 improvements; the earlier cars had to have shims added/subtracted for adjustment which was a bit of a pain.

Good luck,
Jeff

3kcarbon
04-30-2011, 10:39 AM
I'd really like to have "exalted" included in my title, assuming 3kcarbon (Noble Bestower of Forum Honorifics) approves.


Good luck,
Jeff

OK Jeff its up at the other place for the vote since thats where most of your helpfull posts have been.