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Hindsight
11-19-2014, 11:32 AM
Looks like I need yet another tool: An angle drill.
Kind of torn on what to buy. I would like to get a cordless angle drill because I have found myself needing one for home improvement projects, but they are large and I worry about them not fitting into some of the areas on the 818 that I need to drill. Air drills are smaller and cheaper and would probably get into the areas I need - down side that I'm limited to using them in the shop.
So question is: Have any of you who have used a cordless angle drill had any spots you couldn't get to with it?
I tried the angle attachments (for regular drills) mentioned in other threads but they won't work for a few of the areas I need to drill.
michael everson
11-19-2014, 11:52 AM
I stayed away from the cordless one because i was afraid that when i needed it it would not be charged. It would be used so infrequently that it might lose its charge. Couldnt find one that used the same batteries as my normal drill. Something to consider.
RM1SepEx
11-19-2014, 12:07 PM
I just bought a cheap pneumatic one from Harbor Freight, I couldn't go cordless, DeWalt changed from 18 to 20 volt batteries on me... it fits almost anywhere with a short bit
STiPWRD
11-19-2014, 12:26 PM
I tried the angle attachments (for regular drills) mentioned in other threads but they won't work for a few of the areas I need to drill.
Which areas didn't work with the angle attachment? I was thinking about getting one of those.
gwarden
11-19-2014, 12:29 PM
I have both a cheap pneumatic one from HF and an angle attachment from lowes
The angle attachment is impact ready and takes 1/4 hex bits and with short bits also from lowes gets in tighter spots then my HF pneumatic one and drills faster cleaner holes when used with my Milwaukee battery operated impact driver
flynntuna
11-19-2014, 12:38 PM
I'm in the Milwaukee camp,
dougkirkbride
11-19-2014, 12:38 PM
Ouch...... angle drills seem to be an expensive tool anyway you look at it. I bought a cheap corded model (under 50 bucks) from Menards, cant remember the brand but they probably have it made for them in china. regardless, i have used it in my build wherever i cant use a regular dewalt 18V cordless. I have had to cut some drill bits down to stubby's to get closer in the corners but overall the drill has worked great. for the money and for as often as i use it, i couldnt justify spending more on this.
I have a 12 volt Milwaukee that I am very happy with overall. It is smaller than the 18 and 24 volt drills. There are, however, places it won't get to. In some cases I found I could reach them by putting a drill bit in the flexible extension for my Dremel. The toughest piece to install is the aluminum triangle that goes on the side in the front end next to the brake master cylinder. Install it before you permanently install the master cylinder and steering column and you'll save yourself a lot of frustration.
wallace18
11-19-2014, 12:44 PM
I'm in the Milwaukee camp,
I use the battery Milwaukee one and I am very happy with it. Get 2 batteries.
wleehendrick
11-19-2014, 12:56 PM
I thought about getting an inexpensive corded close-quarters/angle drill to get in tight spots, but went with a right angle adapter instead. It's more cumbersome to work with, but it actually gets in tighter spots (lower profile), works with larger bits and was cheaper.
Hindsight
11-19-2014, 01:22 PM
Thanks for all the replies.
To answer questions above "Where does the right angle attachment not fit/work": Drilling out the additional hole in the brake pedal. A regular drill won't fit in there. The angle attachment for a regular drill fits, but the stubby bits that come with the 1/4" hex base are actually TOO short (the head of the angle attachment hits the pedal bracket before the bit can reach the pedal) and since the angle adapter has a hex base, it won't take a normal bit.
I've been trying to buy the cheap HF angle drill for three weeks at my local store but they have been out of stock. I love that a company like HF, in the year 2014, can't tell me when it's coming back in stock. I could order it online but I need it ASAP. That's part of the problem..... to buy a nice air angle drill, the price approaches a cordless unit.
kkcalm5
11-19-2014, 01:31 PM
I bought a RA drill for some work under my trailer and because I needed it for only a couple spots, cost came to be a big factor and I went with corded. I believe it is a Chicago brand, think from HF. I looked at the right angle adaptor but it would not fit in the space between the frame rails I needed to get into.
john g
11-19-2014, 01:34 PM
I bought a corded one from HFT. Not bad, but I wouldn't buy one again. The chuck is difficult to clamp tightly. But it has seen me through most of my build.
John
edwardb
11-19-2014, 01:44 PM
I bought this one through Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002SROQS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Is compact enough to get wherever I've needed it to go. I've been pretty happy with the Chicago Pneumatic brand. Not pro quality necessarily, but a cut about the HF stuff in my experience. I also have a cheap $20 right angle adapter from Lowes that works OK in my regular drills, but it's pretty cumbersome to use.
I also really like the Milwaukee branded tools. My primary cordless drill is one of those. Brushless motor and lithium ion batteries. Amazing tool. And those batteries stay charged on the shelf way better than older nicads or NiMH. I looked at the Milwaukee right angle drill, but at over twice the price plus batteries, just couldn't justify it.
K3LAG
11-19-2014, 01:49 PM
I have the 18v Milwaukee. Between it and the 'regular' one you can probably get to 95+% of the spots you need. There are a few tough spots still.
Larry
AZPete
11-19-2014, 01:53 PM
I've got 2 right-angle drill attachments but I've found that a 12-inch drill bit gets to a lot of places - not all, but a lot. The 1/8 and 3/16 bits can be bent slightly to reach some places. I know it sounds strange but try it.
Hindsight
11-19-2014, 02:05 PM
Good point.... never thought about trying a very long bit. I think a 12" bit would work for the pedal cluster.
Jeff Kleiner
11-19-2014, 02:58 PM
Although neither cordless or pneumatic I originally got this Makita right angle drill to use during a construction project but it has seen much more car building use over the years. It is so ergonomically friendly that I often find myself using it even when space isn't an issue:
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Assets/Images/Products/DA3010F/da3010f_l.jpg
Makita USA - Tool Details - DA3010F (http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=452)
Cheers,
Jeff[
Mechie3
11-19-2014, 03:01 PM
I bought a cordless craftsman without a battery. It fits the same batteries as my regular drill(s) and my weedwacker. The only spot it wouldn't fit was then I tried to put a rivet too close to a joint on the frame where the tubes met at an angle. Most riveters wouldn't fit in that same space anyways.
FFRSpec72
11-19-2014, 03:43 PM
Although neither cordless or pneumatic I originally got this Makita right angle drill to use during a construction project but it has seen much more car building use over the years. It is so ergonomically friendly that I often find myself using it even when space isn't an issue:
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I have the cordless on from Makita, only issue is that it's hard to keep a slow speed, but overall it is a great drill
adubbelde
11-20-2014, 09:29 AM
If you have a tool with a hex drive that the won't work because the bits are too short, chuck a bit holder in as an extension.
Scargo
11-20-2014, 10:58 AM
I often use a flexible hex to hex extension. For smaller bits it works well in a lot of situations where precision is not required. I swear by Milwaukee tools...
Blitzkrieg
11-20-2014, 01:20 PM
I use porter cable drill and impact. They have a good price and good build and you get two batteries and the drill. I havent found anything yet where you need an angled drill on the 818. I also have a cheap air drill from HF that works good for rivits.
Hindsight
11-20-2014, 01:45 PM
I finally picked up the HF pneumatic angle drill today. I had to drive a ways out of town to get it since my local store has been out of stock for weeks. Between that and using a regular drill with 12" long bits as someone else suggested, I should be covered. That is, until I need to drill a hole through some floor joists in my house ;)
Jaime
11-20-2014, 01:54 PM
I havent found anything yet where you need an angled drill on the 818.
There's plenty. Here's the tightest spot I've found so far (rear fiberglass to side):
http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab273/jaime398/818%20Build/20141109_145703_zpsfvoheyim.jpg
Hindsight
11-20-2014, 01:58 PM
There's plenty.
Including some of the lower firewall pieces in the front. There is no way you are getting in there with a regular drill.
skullandbones
11-20-2014, 02:22 PM
I have a pneumatic angle drill that I have used maybe once but I got a 90 degree attachment for my variable 3/8 inch drill that I have used numerous times on my roadster. What I have found after getting used to the floppy nature of the contraption is that it's like using two separate tools that are working together. So I started treating it that way from the start. I've found that placing the attachment squarely and then getting the drill in the most comfortable position worked perfectly (like a universal). It's rare that it does not fit into the confined area. The only thing I've had to do differently is to shorten drill bits on occasion but that's probably the case with the angled drills too. Don't use it that much but when needed it's a life saver. WEK.
Blitzkrieg
11-21-2014, 06:47 PM
There's plenty. Here's the tightest spot I've found so far (rear fiberglass to side):
http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab273/jaime398/818%20Build/20141109_145703_zpsfvoheyim.jpg
I have not got that far yet.
Scargo
11-21-2014, 06:55 PM
Jamie, That Dewalt tool looks like a toy. Is it worth buying? I am only talking about whether it can drill holes for rivets and have enough power to do that.
flynntuna
11-21-2014, 07:10 PM
It's an angle adapter for a regular drill, very usefull.
gwarden
11-21-2014, 07:48 PM
the dewalt tool is very good impact rated the only draw back is it uses hex head bits
Hindsight
11-22-2014, 11:23 AM
Hex bits are a bit of a drawback but for anyone looking: Harbor freight sells a set of standard length hex head bits in a pretty good variety for under $8. I'm sure they won't last super long but if treated properly, they should hold up just fine for the occasional spots where an angle drill is needed.
http://www.harborfreight.com/titanium-nitride-coated-high-speed-steel-drill-bit-set-13-pc-61621.html
Scargo
11-22-2014, 11:59 AM
As I've said, I am a big Milwaukee tools fanboy. They have hex bits that I've used over and over.
Habour Freight may say "Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Drill Bit" but I'd put Milwaukee's up against them.
I do appreciate your input. Not trying to diss you. I have lots of HF crap.