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danmi
10-28-2014, 05:28 PM
Hi,
I am new to this forum and new to the world of mechanics. I intend to build a FFR Cobra replica for daily use, so I do not look for the most powerful combination. Based on what I red so far (forums, blogs, publications), I am pretty confident I can deal with most of the building process, however, the engine and transmission choice is my biggest question mark. So please, any advise is welcomed!
The goal is to have a smal block engine (289 or 302) with an automatic transmission - is this possible? What is the best combo and who is a reliable source for both engine and transmission?
I live in Savoy, IL (near Champaign) and if there are any members in the area, I will like to meet some and learn from their building experience.
Also, if somebody knows and can recommend a good mechanic in the area, I will appreciate the info.
Regards,
Dan
michael everson
10-28-2014, 07:06 PM
Your best bet for good power and great reliability would be to use a drivetrain straight out of a mustang donor.
Mike
danmi
10-28-2014, 08:26 PM
Thanks Michael. I will prefer a new engine and transmission as I am afraid I do not have the capability and facility to rebuild an old engine
riptide motorsport
10-28-2014, 09:44 PM
^^^^ x's 2
soaringDude
10-30-2014, 01:32 PM
I am in the same boat and trying to decide what engine to go with. I am not planning on using it for a daily driver, but certainly performance is not the only factor. I am converging on using a Coyote engine with a TKO 500 transmission. I would have loved to put a 427 in it, but I think that has way too much power (can't believe I just said that!) :)
Any other suggestions/thoughts?
danmi
10-30-2014, 01:57 PM
It seems that this combo is very popular, but if I am not wrong, the TKO500 (or TKO600) is a manual transmission. My wife will never enjoy driving a car with a manual transmission so I must go with automated one. Any suggestions?
kgkeys
10-30-2014, 02:07 PM
The Ford AOD that would be found in a Fox body Mustang is a popular choice for FFR builders, because it is non-electronic and doesn't require a transmission controller. You can get aftermarket AODs built for street use or hardened for performance use, from a variety of vendors. Summit Racing has several available from different suppliers from as little as $1500 to $3500, depending on what you want.
-Kyle
danmi
10-30-2014, 02:30 PM
Thanks Kyle. Do you know if AOD is matching the FFR IV or it requires additional alterations?
kgkeys
10-30-2014, 03:17 PM
I and others have modified the removable A-frame transmission mount to make more room for the AOD oil pan, but I've heard people say that it will fit without those modifications. Widening the mount at least makes it possible to access the trans oil pan bolts, in case you ever want to change the fluid and filter.
There are some protrusion around the bell of the housing that interfere with the frame, that need to be removed before you install the transmission and the starter ear is very close to the frame, but that can be clearanced with a grinder, as well. You will also likely need an aftermarket flexible dipstick and tube for an AOD.
It sounds like a lot, but it's not that bad... :-)
Kyle
68GT500MAN
10-30-2014, 04:03 PM
Remember to get a TV cable if you are using an AOD, it is required for proper operation of the transmission.
Doug
kgkeys
10-31-2014, 02:48 AM
You will also need a trans cooler or radiator with an integral cooler, and the extra lines that requires.
CraigS
10-31-2014, 07:03 AM
I would call Mike Forte.
http://www.fortesparts.com/
The Ford AOD is an overdrive top gear trans w/ 4 gears in all and will work just fine. I would Think about making a 302 into a mild 331 also.