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charles roybal
04-13-2011, 08:03 AM
So..do you think if this is true...this why we are really pay $$$$$$$$$$ for gas?
http://youtu.be/MeH4cjNSkUg

Pierre B
04-13-2011, 09:34 AM
This is very interesting. How about an FFR steamer? The notion of generating energy by burning salt water using radio waves is amazing, as would be the use of those waves to possibly eradicate cancer cells. Makes me think that, were I to convert my FFR fuel source this way, I might need to paint my roadster pink!
Seriously, though, if this idea has practical scientific merit (which seems to be the case), having a large company buy the rights to it could result in its being shelved indefinitely instead of being put to good use ASAP. That sidetracking of good ideas appears to have happened a few times in the past.

riptide motorsport
04-13-2011, 10:25 AM
here why it wont work:

Burning water be it salt water or fresh is easy and nothing new. in fact your not really burning the water , your burning only the hydrogen molecuyle of the H2O. the problem is , you have to separate the molecules to do it, that takes energy. In this case he's separating the molecules using radio waves, I believe theyre really xrays in this case, which is why the light bulb lights up. the power needed to separate the molecules is more than the eneergy released from the burning hydrogen atom, thus you have a significant net loss of power as well as the inability to make the powersource for separating the H20 portable.........hence the reason wse're not using water for fuel...............Steven

TXBLU
04-13-2011, 10:33 AM
I think the problem is that it may require more energy to produce the rf waves than you could get out of it for fuel, and would not be useful in INTERNAL combustion engines. Steam generators perhaps, but it just seems too inefficient at this point. Cool science, though. Very cool!

Eric

astglenn
04-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Radio Frequency is a lousy way to move molecular structures with net savings as a driver. Yup. Input values are very high, subsequently, big input energy.

Now matter and antimatter. That is a different story. I think the Klingon Empire ran Dark Matter Steamers. Toot Toot.

Cobradavid
04-13-2011, 09:58 PM
Typical "human interest" story that ignores important facts. As others have said, this story ignores the amount of energy that is used to generate the RF waves which are electrolyzing the water into O2 and H2.

David

Waiting4Kids2Bgone
04-13-2011, 10:18 PM
Mods, is the filter a little amiss here? Steven didn't put those ** in the middle of the word salt water!



here why it wont work:

Burning water be it sal****er or fresh is easy and nothing new. ........Steven

David Hodgkins
04-13-2011, 10:51 PM
Our censor filter picked that up because he spelled it as one word. Fill in the letters removed to figure out why it was removed...

:)

Rscocca
04-14-2011, 02:12 PM
Is this guy still alive, Last guy who claimed to make an engine that ran on water died three days after a visit from a Gov offical to see if the engine ran. Mid to late 1988
His brother has not been heard from since his brothers death.

289FIA_Cobra
04-26-2011, 01:56 PM
Radio Frequency is a lousy way to move molecular structures with net savings as a driver. Yup. Input values are very high, subsequently, big input energy.

Now matter and antimatter. That is a different story. I think the Klingon Empire ran Dark Matter Steamers. Toot Toot.

Glenn, I'll see your dark matter and raise you a Vulcan Red Matter. :D :D :D

astglenn
04-26-2011, 04:39 PM
Glenn, I'll see your dark matter and raise you a Vulcan Red Matter. :D :D :D

A Karilian ale for my green, 3 eared friend!