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cmcintyre
06-07-2014, 12:29 PM
If anyone doesn't need it off their donor, please PM me. Apparently, CT is quite a stickler on emissions, I'll need it. Thanks.

Christian

skullandbones
06-07-2014, 01:05 PM
Christian,

Have you considered doing a DIY canister? The one I have on my roadster from the donor is butt ugly so I'm changing to a PVC tube (app 2 x 6 size may vary) with the volume of charcoal I need (TBD), and mount it right next to the filler tube. It's much cleaner and you can recharge it when it is saturated. I'm not sure you can do that with the OEM one. I think others who have actually done the project will chime in with their version. I like it because you can custom fit it to your space and it's economical and reusable.

Good luck,

WEK.

cmcintyre
06-07-2014, 09:11 PM
Now there's an idea. I get stuck on my OEM look and a thought out of the box is good. How would one determine the amount of charcoal? Guess I'll Google for a source. Activated Charcoal is all it is? I see the factory unit has an in and out fitting, but FFR is just a single hose off the tank vent. How would you know it was saturated? Smell? Love all these myriad design projects...

skullandbones
06-08-2014, 01:13 AM
Sorry I don't have the thread for you but if you search ffcars or here you will find multiple examples of the PVC version with aquarium charcoal in a net bag. I will have to determine the correct amount but I was going to measure the OEM one I have and base my size off of that. Jeff K and others have done this many times. Yes, if you start to smell gas then you have to change it out. However, mine has been in use for a long time and I still haven't gotten any odors in the garage. This is AZ where liquid of any kind evaporates much faster than just about any where on earth!

WEK.

Note: found one. Charcoal Canister? (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?8264-Charcoal-Canister)

Jeff Kleiner
06-08-2014, 06:54 AM
Apparently, CT is quite a stickler on emissions, I'll need it.

If they are "to the letter" strict then you will probably need an OEM canister along with the ECU controlled purge solenoid and the associated plumbing to return the purged vapor to the engine.

In the event that you can actually use a home brewed version that simply vents to atmosphere here is a pictorial of how I construct them using barbed fittings, PVC pipe & bushings, a couple of discs cut from loosely woven Scotchbrite and a mesh bagged aquarium filter cartrige:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/jkleiner/Mk4%207276/100_1810.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/jkleiner/Mk4%207276/100_1811.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/jkleiner/Mk4%207276/100_1812.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/jkleiner/Mk4%207276/100_1816.jpg

The lower hose is from the tank vent; the upper is tucked downward and vents to atmosphere (you don't necessarily have to put a hose on the open end). I've done this on 3 roadster builds--no fuel odors even after 7 years (and believe me if there were my wife would let me hear about every time she walked into the garage!).

Cheers,
Jeff

WIS89
06-08-2014, 10:31 AM
Christian-

I have a charcoal cannister that you are welcome to have. It is from a 1988 VW, but I think it will pass muster with the DMV. I can PM you with the specifics regarding size and shape. However, before you went through the gymnastics of creating your own which ultimately may not work for the DMV, I thought I might be able to save you some time. Shout back and let me know if you think this will be satisfactory for you.

Regards,

Steve

freds
06-08-2014, 11:06 AM
Here's my solution. Gutted sprinkler packed with activated charcoal from a pet supply store.

Works fine and easy to refill when necessary.

fred

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