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Brando
01-17-2014, 02:07 PM
Let me start by saying sorry for such a morbid question.

If god forbid a rollover was to happen at the track, and I was to end up upside down and still conscious, would you then be essentially stuck until turned right side up? Would the 818S be any different?
I hate humoring such a thought and again i'm sorry for asking

hope for the best and expect the worst

D Clary
01-17-2014, 02:20 PM
I am not sure but it looks like you may be stuck for a bit. Rubber down is always a good thing.

Brando
01-17-2014, 02:25 PM
Time trials I can only blame myself but door to door you never know

Although this guy ends up on his wheels without a scratch, this video has haunted me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIjNa4XjbLE

He can't remember who the president is, but i don't think its due to shock ;)
Edit: included video

StatGSR
01-17-2014, 02:49 PM
depending on vehicle damage, body size, seat, steering wheel, etc. i would expect that you could crawl out if your really wanted out.

Canadian818
01-17-2014, 08:33 PM
I suspect the R's side bars would make it quite difficult. The S would be easier, especially if the door still opens.

StatGSR
01-17-2014, 08:36 PM
^ good point, forgot about that

C.Plavan
01-19-2014, 09:14 PM
I'll put a trap door on passenger floor...... J/k

Aspaholic
01-27-2014, 10:25 PM
A buddy of mine rolled his old TR6 way back when, after passing a sanding truck and losing it on the next bridge. Ended up upside down, completely stuck -- no roll-bar, but he'd tucked over into the passenger seat (good thing it was empty!). A short while later the sanding truck driver came over to see if he was still alive, and he asked the fellow to open the door. With some gyrations he wiggled free. With a little help from other gawkers they rolled the car back over the way it came. 15 minutes later he'd checked fluids, started it up, and drove it the rest of the way home.

FFRSpec72
01-27-2014, 10:37 PM
I have not been in a rollover, but I have been t-boned @ 60 mph (and only fiberglass damage and the Spec E30 front cli[p had to be replaced) and I put my trust in FFR as the frame/cage they build is GREAT and I would trust it in a rollover.

Santiago
01-28-2014, 01:32 PM
Tony, I don't think the concern is cage collapse. At least, that certainly isn't my concern (FFR has gained a ton of experience with the Challenge Series and just looking at the thing makes me think "tank").

I think Brando's concern is simply if you roll with the current design (assuming a fully intact cage structure) would you have enough room to squeeze out of the area left between it and the ground? Honestly, until he mentioned it, I hadn't thought of it, and I wonder if that's why so many of the Challenge guys added additional overhead bars to their cars?

Something to consider...as is Chad's trap door idea. =)

Best,
-j

FFRSpec72
01-28-2014, 10:33 PM
Tony, I don't think the concern is cage collapse. At least, that certainly isn't my concern (FFR has gained a ton of experience with the Challenge Series and just looking at the thing makes me think "tank").

So there are a lot of factors here, your body size is one, as there are a lot of guys I know that even in a sedan they have to open the door to get in/out as no way they can fit through the window. If my challenge car rolls and the ground is even, I can get out but if the front gets damaged and rolls I may not be able to as this might reduce the angle. Also don't forget the 818 is light enough that corner workers and emergency crew might be able to lift up the front of the car for you to crawl out and there is not much in the front that will catch on fire beyond the brake fluid.

longislandwrx
02-03-2014, 07:46 AM
25849

At 5'8 175 I was able to climb through this space pretty easily wearing my helmet and race jacket, with the car inverted it wouldn't be hard. I think average size guys wont have an issue. An option for larger guys might be cutting and putting a removable section in the passenger side brace

JeromeS13
02-03-2014, 11:09 AM
25849

At 5'8 175 I was able to climb through this space pretty easily wearing my helmet and race jacket, with the car inverted it wouldn't be hard. I think average size guys wont have an issue. An option for larger guys might be cutting and putting a removable section in the passenger side brace

Was that with the door on? Doesn't the door block a good ~ 40% of that opening when mounted?

FFRSpec72
02-03-2014, 11:15 AM
Was that with the door on? Doesn't the door block a good ~ 40% of that opening when mounted?

Hopefully folks will use some fasteners like dzus fasteners that can be just yanked/pushed off

longislandwrx
02-03-2014, 11:54 AM
Was that with the door on? Doesn't the door block a good ~ 40% of that opening when mounted?

No with the door off, I'm working off the assumption that in a rollover, not much will be left of these doors, and that mine will be easily "removed"

Mitch Wright
02-03-2014, 12:18 PM
Having been upside down in a car with a similar front and rear roll hoops and didn't have a problem getting out. I am sure I was assisted by adrenaline.

Doowop
02-03-2014, 11:06 PM
I guess the real issue is if the car start on fire and that the fire system is not good enough to put it out..... Well, it's a risk to take as everything else.