Brando's Newbie 818R Build Thread [Archive]

Brando

11-29-2013, 10:14 AM

Happy Holidays!

It was around 7 years ago I was racing a built EVO 7 at Buttonwillow time attack day and left standing still by what ended up a FF5 spec racer. I spoke with the driver between heats and he educated me about factory five. That's where it all started. First question was which of the Cobra's to purchase, street or spec. Fortunately I waited a few months to attend a yearly car show FF5 participates in at Knotts Berry Farm. I don't know if you have tried sitting in the Shelby Cobra but I can tell you it's not made for a 6'5" guy. Fortunately they had the GTM and let me sit in it. Surprisingly I had plenty of leg room but nearly no visibility. I was still in love and spent the next few years growing and tanking my first business in pursuit of building this $40k supercar. My first business and the GTM didn't go as planned and I rebuilt my life. 6 years later my rebuild was successful I am not only ready to do this again, but this time I'm qualified.
Bring it on 818R, I have waited a long time for your big V8 brothers but now your my #1. Don't worry little 818, their just jealous your faster with half the cylinders. ;)

I also would like to add that Brandi and I are bringing a little bundle of joy into this world towards the end of January. This is her 2nd (lovely 11 year old girl) and my first. Her name is Raquel nick-name Rocki. I'm even more excited about that then my 818 arrival, and that's staggering in my world.
So that means January I have to put every ounce of time into this project.

Here is where I am at:
Model: 818R
Pickup Date: December 21, 2013
Delivery date: Jan 17th, 2014
Completion Date Goal: April 26th, 2014

Chassis:
Powder coated
Carbon Fiber Rear Race Spoiler
Carbon Fiber Rear Race Diffuser
Carbon Fiber Race Splitter

Motor:
2004 EJ20
16g Turbo
750cc injectors
Killer B pickup and baffle
Outfront Fuel Rails
Grimspeed ceramic coated inside/outside - exhaust manifold, cross pipe, up pipe
Cusco Motor/trans mounts
340 lpm fuel pump
BOV TBD

ECU:
VCP Wireharness and switchboard
Electromotive Tec-S ECU

Trans:
2004 Stock 5 speed
Exedy stage 2 clutch
ACT flywheel

Brakes:
Wilwood 12" Red - Slotted & Drilled
Pads TBD

Wheels:
Enkei Kojin
17x8 + 45 Front
18x8.5 + 45 Rear

Tires:
Hoosiers R6
225/40-17 Front heat cycled
255/35-18 Rear heat cycled

The Process:
23759I found this little jem on craigslist for $250. It didn't have a motor or transmission but everything else seemed in tact

http://youtu.be/_VcBR1RDQFI
Oops, broke the cabinet door.

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Stripped her clean (took me longer than anticipated ~20hr and that's without a motor removal)

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Then another trip to craigslist to find these 2 hard working fellas who tore this car to pieces in 2 hours flat then towed it off for scrap.

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Ebay led me to this motor. EJ20 turbo, 45k mi, 5 speed, wiring harness, radiator, turn key from Miami engine import. $3k delivered.

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I couldn't get out of work to meet the engines delivery time so I picked it up at the dispatch location and used a hoist to get it out of my truck

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Now its on the palette which i recently added casters too so I can roll it around. My next plan is to remove anything i don't need from the motor, but first I need to dig a bit on exactly what that is. I also want to pull the transmission and install a new clutch which will be a first for me. Honestly I'm not even sure how to properly secure the motor/trans when they separate. Can i sit the engine down on the oil pan? Perhaps I need an engine stand or something like that. LMK

Brando

11-29-2013, 10:22 AM

Earlier this month I did a 24 hour Vegas trip for the Sema Show. I hovered around the FF5 booth for quite some time, probably annoyed a few of the guys but who could help me. It was a constant shot of Adrenalin and anticipation started running high.

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I look up to these guys, thanks for allowing our dreams to come true

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This car was quite impressive. Does anyone know what the weight of this car ended up at?

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We all have seen this one pleanty of times. 2:02 at Watkins Glen and I bet next trip you guys beat that 2:00 mark.

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Waynes car was something of beauty. Looks great in pictures but even better in person. I somewhat forced my help on him to assist covering his car up EOD Tuesday. Seems a great guy, as did Dave. Thanks Gentlemen

Brando

11-29-2013, 10:34 AM

Here is a bit of Video i grabbed at the Sema Show 2013

http://youtu.be/6D7e-SEX3wk

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Ready and waiting

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It's a thing of beauty, and smell! Wifey tells the garage smells like Kraigen, I say thank you.

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Trans looks clean

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Looks like i will be ordering some aluminum A-arms (if that's even what they are called) from an 06. The one to the left is creased from the collision

Goals prior to delivery are:
Meet caliber people and make friends in my area who share the same common goal here
Figure out how to get my spindles off and get new bearings
Pull off trans and replace clutch
Clean Parts.

I'm wondering what if any parts I should powder-coat. I am not as concerned about showmanship as i plan to beat this car up. I do want durability. I see guys powder coating alot of items. Is that for rust or show?

Welp that's all I have thus far. I will do my best to share all my hurdles and hope it helps any other rooks out there.

Thanks in advance for all the help,
Brandon

wleehendrick

11-29-2013, 11:18 AM

Happy Holidays!

You, too! You're off to a great start, and your enthusiasm for the project is obvious!

Are you going to try to register the R, or will it be a pure track toy?

~ Anticipated delivery date: Dec 27, 2013 - Jan 3,2014
Delivery party?: For sure, and your welcome to join. Bring your friends &/or wifey. PM me

Let me know if you need a hand with delivery, if we're not out of town skiing, I'd be happy to head up to OC to help. Always up for a party!

My next plan is to remove anything i don't need from the motor, but first I need to dig a bit on exactly what that is.

A great reference for that is this thread (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?9288-Simplifying-the-EJ&p=91168&viewfull=1#post91168).

Brando

11-29-2013, 11:38 AM

You, too! You're off to a great start, and your enthusiasm for the project is obvious!

Are you going to try to register the R, or will it be a pure track toy?
I'm pretty darn excited. Since this year's SB100 exemption didn't exceed the yearly 500 limit i'm going to wait until its 1 month away from completion then start the process with the DMV. If all goes well then I should get my meeting with the CHP for road compliance just as I finish my 818R. After it passes I am planning on having it ref'd by the model in hopes that I get the 1960 emissions exemption. Goal is to be built and street legal by August 2014.

I am an avid snowboarder as is Brandi (wifey) but she is out of commission for this season.

I am definitely down for the support and will keep you posted. Thread reference was helpful. tnx

David Hodgkins

11-29-2013, 12:14 PM

.../I don't know if you have tried sitting in the Shelby Cobra but I can tell you it's not made for a 6'5" guy.

You, sir, need to sit in my Roadster(FFR-speak for Cobra) and you will be pleasantly surprised. I'm going to build an 818 too so there will be 3 of them west of the 405 in South OC!

I cleaned out my inbox a little; let's get in touch.

:)

wleehendrick

11-29-2013, 01:20 PM

Regarding legroom, I'm probably going to jump on the Boyd tank Black Friday sale going on now.

Brando

11-29-2013, 02:03 PM

Which tank are you looking at? Link me

David Hodgkins

11-29-2013, 04:43 PM

Regarding legroom, I'm probably going to jump on the Boyd tank Black Friday sale going on now.

Good choice, but remember FFR has a tall tank now too...

:)

THE ITALIAN

11-29-2013, 08:24 PM

Hey, don't count me out (San Clemente)
Just as soon as I take out the garbage(very long story) I will be ordering mine too ®
Brando, Dave is a very big guy(like a football lineman)-listen to him….I saw him in an 818 and he looks at home
I want to see when you guys register for a SB 100 # on this one

wleehendrick

11-29-2013, 08:38 PM

Which tank are you looking at? Link me

Here (http://www.fueltankparts.com/factory-five-818-10-gallon-gas-tank-with-aeromotive-stealth-340-pump.html) it is.

wleehendrick

11-29-2013, 08:41 PM

Good choice, but remember FFR has a tall tank now too...

Really? It wasn't an option when I finalized my order, and it's not listed under on the part website. Do you have any more info on it?

I'm still probably going to get the Boyd on sale, for the quality of construction and not having to muck with any of the internals.

K3LAG

11-29-2013, 09:48 PM

Really? It wasn't an option when I finalized my order, and it's not listed under on the part website. Do you have any more info on it?

I hear it is still several months away.

Brando

12-23-2013, 06:05 PM

All in, final payment rendered and accepted a few weeks back.

My pickup date has passed and the ball is in Stewarts court to pickup on the planned date 12/27 and ship to CA.

2014 starts with a bang. In January alone i'm getting a baby girl and an 818

Jan 6th should be the delivery date for my car.
Jan 20th should be the delivery date for our baby.

:eek:

2 feverish weeks to build my eyes out until my progress hits an eminent wall. With the exception of cleaning, i'm trying to do as much as possible to have my parts ready.

Progress and hurdles:

I never have removed a motor from the transmission or changed a clutch so this was uncharted territory for me. I hit 2 snags. First, there is a plug located behind the starter containing a 10mm hex. Remove it and take a 5 or 6mm bolt to thread inside the visible shaft and use it to slide the shaft out.Second, once all the nuts/bolts are removed from the bellhousing it takes a few flat-heads wedged between the motor & trans to get them apart.
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After that is was straight forward.
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I still haven't been able to get the flywheel off. I need a good way to keep the motor from rotating. Removing the flywheel is my action item. I also am replacing the exhaust manifold and up/downpipes. I'm still researching the best way to wrap/insulate them
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I didn't realize how much oil would spill setting my trans like this.
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Wilwood brakes arrived and gave me a taste of whats to come. It kicked up the excitement a notch
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I ran into 2 snags assembling the brakes. The first is the rear brakes not lining up with this peace to hold the calipers. My guess is my donor was a Frankenstein... an assortment of random parts. Wilwood is closed for the holidays so this one will have to wait for a bit to solve.
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The 2nd snag was the dust shield being the same diameter as the rotor and impeding its ability to completely mount. I am tempted to cut them off but will also wait to speak to Wilwood.
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My front lower arms were damaged from the donor so i purchased a set for $300 on eBay. I went for the 2006 aluminum's. I realized the ball joint had a different sized shaft between the two of them. Turns out i just need a cone shaped Boss Transverse Link, 20216Fa000 - tnx Mechie3
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I removed the front outer cv joint, removed the ball bearings and cleaned out the grease.
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The front brakes/suspension is ready to go as far as i can tell
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Tasks:

Find exhaust solution with insulation and install it.
Figure how to get flywheel off
Determine best flywheel & clutch, purchase and install
Track down some electrical diagrams and try to make sense of this wiring harness. OMG
Get gaskets for EJ20 and attempt removing the intake manifold for an attempted TGV delete

I can't remember the last time i was this excited to get something. Time has slooooowed down because of the approaching arrival date.

JeromeS13

12-23-2013, 06:42 PM

Flywheel. You should be able to place a pry bar / screwdriver between the teeth of the flywheel and the block (on the bottom passenger side).

Xusia

12-23-2013, 06:46 PM

I went with an ACT Streetlite flywheel (13.9 lbs, IIRC). It will be a while before I run it, so unfortunately I can't give you any firsthand feedback. It did seem to be highly recommended though (for street cars anyway).

Rasmus

12-23-2013, 07:46 PM

I didn't realize how much oil would spill setting my trans like this.

Did that with a '74 Cadillac Eldorado trans I had once. Excect the trans fluid was "burnt". And burnt transmission fluid stinks!

On the rear brake dust shields, just remove those with a spot weld remover. It's like a tiny hole saw. Use cutting fluid and don't go too fast or you'll burn up the spot weld removers teeth. You can get them to last a long time if you use a little lube and slow down. Shift your drill into high torque/slow mode and you won't have to worry about over doing it.

metros

12-23-2013, 08:12 PM

Nice looking Wilwood brake set up. Which kit did you end up using? 6/4 pot or 4/2 pot or?

Brando

12-23-2013, 09:11 PM

Flywheel. You should be able to place a pry bar / screwdriver between the teeth of the flywheel and the block (on the bottom passenger side). Simple enough. I will try tonight thanks.

Did that with a '74 Cadillac Eldorado trans I had once. Excect the trans fluid was "burnt". And burnt transmission fluid stinks!
I'm not sure if this fluid was burnt but is smells something fierce. I cleaned it up but the smell still lingers on. Its growing on me though because smelling it makes me think of the kit. Everything in my house and life is going PINK so this is the last bit of "tool time" left for me, smells included :)

Nice looking Wilwood brake set up. Which kit did you end up using? 6/4 pot or 4/2 pot or?
The 4 piston seemed more than adequate so i went with those.

longislandwrx

12-24-2013, 06:41 AM

I can't remember the last time i was this excited to get something. Time has slooooowed down because of the approaching arrival date.

I hope when you found out you were having a baby :p

A suggestion for you, buy a master gasket set. You may not need them all but you will spend less than piecing together all the ones you need.

And change your valve cover gaskets while you are at it. If they are not leaking yet, they will be soon.

Mechie3

12-24-2013, 07:10 AM

You can chisel or grind off the dust shield outer portion on the rear and simply unbolt them on the front. Did that on my DD without issue and saved a bit of weight.

RM1SepEx

12-24-2013, 08:02 AM

Contact fate66 for the wiring diagrams for your model... very helpful!

Brando

12-30-2013, 04:04 PM

As the story has it, Stewart Transport had a truck go down last week so unfortunately my kit didn't get on a truck. It is now supposed to ship out this week on Jan 3rd and arrive the week of the 13th. I haven't started building yet and already doing some serious racing (baby vs kit)

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I found our ping pong table to make a great portable table. Sturdy, flat and easy to move around.
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The advise given worked liked a charm and the flywheel is off and awaiting an ACT 14lb replacement and TGV delete.
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Fuel rails removed. I'm curious if these are the "green brackets of death" i keep hearing about. They seem to fit the bill.
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I am now waiting for 750cc injectors, Cusco motor/trans mount, full gasket set, agency fuel rail kit, stage 2 exedy clutch.
I am on the fence if i should stroke the motor or not and which turbo to go with. I'm bringing the motor to Outfront Sports and getting some guidance today.
Fateo66 was kind enough to forward wiring diagrams, which solidified my decision to go with Waynes harness. I'm going to cut up my harness today per his specs.
Tick tock.....

Mechie3

12-30-2013, 04:37 PM

Those are indeed the GBOD.

68GT500MAN

12-30-2013, 05:24 PM

At least your spirits are still up, too bad about the delivery problems, but it will be here shortly. Congratulation on the other (more important) delivery too.
Doug

Xusia

12-30-2013, 08:46 PM

That's kind of ironic about the truck. Mine was late because the TRAILER needed repair...

Goldwing

12-30-2013, 11:02 PM

Welcome!! I have the same completion date, and the same Stewart delay due to the break down. In Ohio they told me likely Jan 9-10 earlier today, with a pickup on the 6th. Congrats on the soon to arrive baby and the 818. Praying they both arrive safely and healthy. I'm hoping my 2-1/2 yr old is up for helping with my 818S. It'll be fun watching our builds progress. I am overdue to start my thread here, the holidays are a busy time.

Mechie3

12-30-2013, 11:02 PM

Mine was delayed a week from a truck breaking down in Kentucky. Lol

metalmaker12

12-30-2013, 11:37 PM

Brando

12-31-2013, 07:16 AM

Babies sleep a lot and your wife will to. Wake up early on weekends and do the quiet stuff
That's reassuring because every guy friend in my life has been leading me to believe I will have little time for this project once I become a father, but I am gaining some confidence that I will still find some time to build. In fact its right now 4am PST and i'm up. So all i need now is the kit and instead of sitting in bed on my laptop I could be out in the garage putting in a good 4 hours before work..... (fades off into another 818 brainstorm binge) . The baby is going to be growing up above the garage, so i'm hoping the sounds coming from the garage end up being ambient noise that soothes my new baby girl, like blowing wind, as wishful as that may be.

It sounds like there have been a few problems with the transportation. I can't deny its a bit of a stinger when you schedule holiday travels around a failed delivery but i'm using the time to get ready...calming before the storm...building garage racks one minute and a bassinet the next. The contrast is amusing me to me. There seems alot of family oriented individuals on here, it's one of the many qualities I appreciate about this forum.

metalmaker: 60hr weeks with 2 kids and built a kit in a short time frame. I think you should consider offering time management classes, count me in that's amazing

Goldwing: My family came from Mentor, a hop skip away from you. I'm glad to learn about your tandem build. Start your thread or else I might start it for you ;)

RM1SepEx

12-31-2013, 08:08 AM

I have a three year old daughter and a second halfway out due in May. I also work 60 hours a week and have a side welding business. I find the time to build, so will you. Babies sleep a lot and your wife will to. Wake up early on weekends and do the quiet stuff and than when there up cut ,grind ,bang etc. Good luck with it all man Godspeed!!

Ah to be young again... When my wife and I were newly married engineers I worked 80 hrs a week, she worked 60. We had two workers frame our 2000 sqft house, we did EVERYTHING else ourselves and moved in 6 months after the foundation was poured. I slowed down to finish the trim around a window each night. My super insulated solar house has 43 windows...

Now between my MS and I tweaked my back at 54 and it has cost me weeks of progress! It sucks to get old...

Those little girls grow up so fast! 17 year old Danielle is working on scholarship apps, cheering and is chomping at the bit to drive her Miata again, she hates the FWD Del Sol that she drives in bad weather and we have had nothing but bad weather for 3 weeks, almost continuos rain and snowy days.

Goldwing

01-01-2014, 03:01 PM

Goldwing:...Start your thread or else I might start it for you ;)

Lol. Coming soon. I might just get it started with delivery pictures, but hopefully sooner.

Above the garage could present a few challenges with sudden, loud type noises, but a baby learns to live in his or her environment. We were told that and advised not to tiptoe around during naps, or they'll never learn to nap or sleep through noises. Whether or not our efforts contributed, I can't say, but ours does well whether its quiet or loud. I'm jealous of her, lol. Mentor is indeed close. Send any doublting Thomas family members this way once the build takes shape. :)

Goldwing

01-06-2014, 08:54 PM

Just guessing by the silence, did the little one come early while waiting for the delayed 818? All good news I hope.

Brando

01-07-2014, 12:50 AM

The race is still on. Wifey looks like she is going to pop. I'm learning about all sorts of new baby stores I never knew existed. So funny walking around those places watching all the other guys as lost as I am. This isn't home depot anymore.

I spoke to Stewart today and my kit was picked up at the end of last week and is now in Ohio so there is a good chance it will make it here sometime this weekend. Speaking of Ohio, are you the reason they are there? You might be receiving your kit tomorrow no?

I finished building my chassis dolly this evening and started cleaning the build area. Clecos, rivet gun, several 11 & 30 sized drill bits are ready and waiting. I snipped apart my wire harness and shipped it off to Wayne for his ECU/harness replacement. For the motor I picked up a new killer-B baffle, pickup, pan, TGV delete, 750cc injectors, fuel rails, lightened flywheel and stg2 clutch. I'm undecided on turbo but leaning towards a smaller 16g. I hope to be mating the trans/motor before Friday. I also had to source a few rear spindles.

Other than that I'm patiently standing by...

One of the things I didn't do which it seems so many have is change my wheel bearings and change to arp wheel studs. Should I be concerned about this?

metalmaker12

01-07-2014, 04:05 AM

If you think you need bearings, than change them. With arp studs only of you feel you will need them cause of wheel offset etc. I bought wheels that did not really need much spacing if any.

longislandwrx

01-07-2014, 07:13 AM

Did you knock your axles out of the hubs yet? you will be able to feel it better once you do.

If you don't have a press, the Subie dealer can do new bearings for you. I think the going rate if you bring the knuckles in is about $250 parts and labor but talk to your local dealers.

Brando

01-07-2014, 11:03 AM

Yes the axles are off the hubs. What am I looking for to determine if they need replacing?

Xusia

01-07-2014, 11:36 AM

My thought: If you've already knocked the axles off the hubs, why not just go ahead and replace the bearings? Unless you know how many miles are on them, it's kind of a gamble - not in terms of safety, but in terms of when they will wear out and you'll need to do it. You've done half the labor already. How would you feel if you didn't replace them now, but needed to in 10K miles? Or 20K miles? I see it as piece of mind (to do it now), and more years of trouble free fun. :)

K3LAG

01-07-2014, 11:45 AM

I replaced the bearings on all 4 corners of mine. One of them clearly had water infiltration as exibited by some rust in the grease.

Larry

Goldwing

01-08-2014, 12:05 PM

I WISH I was the reason he was in Ohio, lol. No such luck yet. I called after the worst of the weather and got a weekend delivery timeframe. I only this week got the garage ready. It got pretty messed up while finishing a kayak build. The two projects have zero compatibility. Storing the woodworking tools, and readying the car tools was a project in itself. A screwdriver. That is the only tool I will use on both projects, lol. After this weeks weather, my wife wants her garage spot back, oh, I'm in trouble!

Brando

01-08-2014, 05:40 PM

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/croped/Garage-Panorama_zpse952151d.jpg

Feed me seymour!

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/littleshopofhorrors_zps27fcae3d.gif

Brando

01-17-2014, 09:56 AM

My kit arrived! Needless to say I was pretty excited. Steward has some pretty good looking LONG trucks

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0206_zps98da3ea9.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0206_zps98da3ea9.jpg.html)

So long in fact it was decided it wont fit through our gate

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0211_zps4d38c5f1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0211_zps4d38c5f1.jpg.html)

Very thoughtful to keep my car all bundled up driving through the east coast, blue blankie

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_132001_zps32e841d2.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_132001_zps32e841d2.jpg.html)

The moment of the unload. Surreal

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0218_zps31389e60.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0218_zps31389e60.jpg.html)

Yard Sale anyone? The wife is included the but the kid has to stay with me

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0216_zpsf71f34cb.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0216_zpsf71f34cb.jpg.html)

This was right at the point where school got out, so every neighbor in the community happen to drive by and stop to say hello or inquire. A familiar neighbor actually asked me if it was a factory five 818 which spawned a conversation and new friend. In fact I have 2 people already on the "design board" with a more extensive knowledge set in this arena. Much appreciated

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0224_zps2ba80dc7.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0224_zps2ba80dc7.jpg.html)

And we took an afternoon stroll in 85 degree weather. This was a climatic moment in life for me right here...no kidding. Although it 2 weeks it will be trumped

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0226_zps693ea6bf.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_0226_zps693ea6bf.jpg.html)

Brando

01-17-2014, 09:57 AM

And a mere 4 :confused: weeks after its build date chassis #102 find its home

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_145014_zps3caa173f.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_145014_zps3caa173f.jpg.html)

I used my cherry picker to lift the chassis up and get my dolly under it then did some stress testing on the entire setup

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_163900_zpsb70abce4.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_163900_zpsb70abce4.jpg.html)

Then removed all the aluminum panels

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_193622_zps32e27ac2.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_193622_zps32e27ac2.jpg.html)

And finally I got to install my first cleco

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_194148_zps99f1bfca.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140115_194148_zps99f1bfca.jpg.html)

I realize you don't need one in every hole, I was just curious how far a bag of 50 would go

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It was at this point I was glad to have purchased that $40 rivet gun from Harbor Freight.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140116_204655_zpsc2807863.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140116_204655_zpsc2807863.jpg.html)

It's now 7am which is my "agreed upon" acceptable build starting hour. Keep you "posted". Puntastick

Mechie3

01-17-2014, 10:42 AM

hehe.....

6:59:58
6:59:59
7:00:00 - air compressor clicks on :D

longislandwrx

01-17-2014, 10:58 AM

Time to start explaining muscles...

25284

LOL congrats on your new and soon to be newer arrival.

wleehendrick

01-18-2014, 12:58 AM

Hey Brandon... Congrats!

Great start, get as much done as you can before the real delivery day.

Lee

PS 1/8" rivets are easy by hand... once I started putting the 3/16" in, I wish I had the air riviter!

07FIREBLADE

01-18-2014, 03:18 AM

Congrats on both fronts. Another 818 in California. And your so close to me to. Where in Irvine are you? My kits about a month out.

Brando

01-20-2014, 01:49 PM

Thanks for good wishes on the new minion. By the looks of things an early arrival isn't out of the question.

I'm located on the Newport Beach/Irvine border just off the 73 freeway and Newport Coast in Turtle Ridge. Your welcome to stop in, PM me.

The build is going at expected, my goal for the weekend was to finish the suspension before starting this work week. As of this mornings 1hr session I think I have it as far as possible without some outside help from FFR and Wilwood.

The suspension is coming along

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_071947_zps243ca7b1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_071947_zps243ca7b1.jpg.html)

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Brando

01-20-2014, 01:49 PM

Questions/Concerns so far:

I'm a little confused about the steering rack spacers, rear Wilwood brake bracket tolerance, and the legth of the from LCA forward/inside bolt length.

The inventory list shows for (2) .925" spacers.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/4efda04f-8680-4bf0-8598-3ec1bf200845_zps9f50cdb8.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/4efda04f-8680-4bf0-8598-3ec1bf200845_zps9f50cdb8.jpg.html)

The manual states to use an undermined amount (assuming 4) of .865" spacers for the steering rack assembly.

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The contents of my kit matched the inventory sheet of (2) .925" spacers. I installed each of the 1 on the backside of the rack and as it stands the front of the rack has no spacers. Can anyone please shed some light on what i'm doing wrong here?

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_072119_zps2144c8a8.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_072119_zps2144c8a8.jpg.html)

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Also with the rear Wilwood brakes the Wilwood supplied bracket isn't quite tall enough

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_085337_zps770f3999.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_085337_zps770f3999.jpg.html)

Lastly, am i the only one who is creeped out by the fact the front lower LCA bolt only treads on 5 or 6 turns? Wouldn't you feel better about another inch more of thread or am I just being overly cautious?

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_072147_zpsd7462437.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140120_072147_zpsd7462437.jpg.html)

Brando

01-20-2014, 01:50 PM

How funny, after proofing my last post I found my missing .43" spacer missing from the front upper shock mount. Can you find it?

hint: It's on the last picture

David Hodgkins

01-20-2014, 02:03 PM

Hey Brandon,

Looks like you are getting after it!

re: that LCA bolt. Looks short to me.

I'd like to come by and see your progress soon. Have you been in touch with Erik Hansen to check out his build?

:)

Brando

01-20-2014, 02:23 PM

Heya Dave

Yes I reached out to Eric but he seemed pretty busy and I haven't heard back from him yet. I don't want to pester so I think I will wait for him to respond, which I hope he does because I really could use some perspective on this build. Lee has been quite open to assistance so perhaps another drive to see him in San Diego is in order.

Thanks again for meeting with me last week, I still have a smile on my face from the test run in your cobra. You were right, the legroom was more that adequate and wookie approved. Brandi and I really enjoyed meeting your family, and your wife really helped brandi make a few important decisions she was on the fence about ( outside the build of course! )

Look forward to seeing you here soon

Mechie3

01-20-2014, 03:02 PM

Im not sure thats the right bolt you're using. I thought FFR supplied a bolt for there. Can look later when I'm home.

Goldwing

01-20-2014, 03:06 PM

I'd be creeped out too with that short looking bolt. That nut should be fully threaded to make me feel better. I'm not that far yet to compare. I might be stating the obvious, but if you source another set of bolts, research and replace with an equal graded bolt.

wleehendrick

01-20-2014, 04:50 PM

Brandon, great progress! I noticed you're attaching your control arms at street height on a R... is that intentional? Regarding the short bolt, I think I used an oem, cant be sure. Ill be out of gown til friday, so hopefully someone else can confirm. Erik's further along than me, so see if you van check out his build. I know he's down in San Marcos today.

Brando

01-20-2014, 05:03 PM

I spoke to Wilwood and they guided me to the following pdf http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/DataSheets/ds411.pdf

On the bottom right there is a small box instructing you to remove some of the caliper bracket mounting ears. Wilwood reasured me this will not compromise the integrity of the bracket mounting area.

Using a grinder seems a bit aggressive but i don't know of another way to remove this metal.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/caliperGrind_zps4e44a34c.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/tekbroker/media/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/caliperGrind_zps4e44a34c.jpg.html)

Brando

01-20-2014, 05:26 PM

Brandon, great progress! I noticed you're attaching your control arms at street height on a R... is that intentional?
Yes, I figure i'm going to do some testing with the car initially. I will drop the car to track height when the time is right.

RM1SepEx

01-20-2014, 08:09 PM

re steering rack spacers

I have a new 05 rack with aluminum ears on the pinion end but our speced spacers, bolts and the bracket were wrong too. I ended up making my own and buying my own bolts, even through 2 revisions it was never worked out correctly by FFR. Craig (Mechie3) made his own aluminum saddle for the right side. It took us both several trys to get the rack level, FFR never sent spacers or bolts for us and the specified spacer height didn't work... it is detailed in our build threads

metalmaker12

01-20-2014, 09:55 PM

Yea I had to make my own spacers also and tweak it etc.

Xusia

01-20-2014, 11:47 PM

I am familiar with the trouble you guys had. I just installed the steering rack from my 2003 donor, and except for some spacers that are either missing or misplaced, it installed great and seems centered.

C.Plavan

01-21-2014, 12:46 PM

Yes, you have to grind the rear caliper backing plates. Take your time, grind- check, grind=check. That's what I did with mine.

Order longer bolts from McMaster Carr for the LCA.

Also, it looks like you just decided to run the stock height, not the race height?

You also want to flip the UCA's so that the grease fitting are on top. You have the new (Straight) UCA balljoint mounts, not the early ones.

D Clary

01-21-2014, 02:53 PM

It looks like your rear trailing arms are switched side to side

Brando

01-21-2014, 05:07 PM

it looks like you just decided to run the stock height, not the race height?
I plan on doing some testing with the vehicle prior to taking it to the track. During that time I want the luxury of driving the car out of my driveway, around my neighborhood, and load easily onto a trailer. After a good shakedown I am going to lower the 818 to track height. A few people have mentioned this now, perhaps I am underestimating the work involved with switching the ride height. My guess would be 2-3 hours work, am I way off?

You also want to flip the UCA's so that the grease fitting are on top. You have the new (Straight) UCA balljoint mounts, not the early ones.
If i was to disregard the grease fitting location, isn't the UCA positioned this way? I have heard both stories now so I am a bit confused.

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It looks like your rear trailing arms are switched side to side
Noted, thank you.

Xusia

01-21-2014, 11:26 PM

In regards to the UCA, I spoke directly with one of the techs at FFR (I forget who it was specifically) and they said it doesn't make much difference, but the proper orientation is with the grease fittings pointed up.

Mechie3

01-22-2014, 07:33 AM

My bolt for the lower front control arm position is 4 inches long including the bolt head. Its not pointed at the front like your bolt is but is squared off. Couldn't measure the thread because my wheels were on and I couldn't get to it. I think you might have used a bolt from the front u frame on the donor. Those are mostly pointed at the end to aid with assembly.

Brando

01-27-2014, 01:07 AM

This wraps up my last weekend before becoming a daddy. I made sure to take care of all my "honey do's" and even got to the track to race my 5th scale.

So far I have been enjoying this build. Although I don't have much to compare to I would say the experience thus far has surpassed my expectations. I am starting to understand what people mean when they say the manual is more of a guide then step by step directions. I'm very thankful we have this forum to fill in the blanks.

Progress since last post:

Installed a new flywheel, clutch, fuel rail, fuel regulator, TGV deletes, built axles, radiator, brake/clutch peddles, motor/trans mounts, mated motor/trans and installed the motor a couple of times XD

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140124_193142_zpsb14ae68d.jpg

So this was my first motor fitting, it went very smoothly. I suppose having the intake/exhaust manifolds off didn't hurt. But I will a little discouraged when I realize something was missing....

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Ahhh fork it! I mean I forgot the clutch fork. So a had to pull the motor again and learn a little lesson. I will be pulling the motor again to install a firewall on the engine bay side as many have done, so i'm not going to put much energy into the exhaust or anything else that would make removing the motor difficult. For now its a great space saver and its positioned nicely to remove the center diff.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/2999f243-8685-44af-a731-959d116b74b3_zpsb3aeb4af.jpg

I also tested my grinding skills to make the rear Wilwood calipers fit. Took a bit to get it right but eventually the brakes went on and I happily checked that off my list.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140124_171519_zpse2ff2f9e.jpg

I am scratching my head on a few things and any guidance would be appreciated.

I'm not very familiar with how the plumbing flows on a turbo.
On the next 2 pictures I have a 16g on the left and the stock turbo on the right.
The stock turbo has both coolant ports utilized while the 16g has one of those 2 plugged.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140123_203554_zps5e3c6670.jpg

If i flip them over the stock turbo has both ports permanently sealed while the 16g has another 2 locations for what i assume is also cooling, one if which is plugged.
So can I simply move the plug from the first image and throw it on the other side so I can use my existing plumbing?

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140123_203648_zpsc6f76c69.jpg

Bonus question:
The plasic TGV delete comes with its own rubber seal. Does this effectively replace the gasket or should i still be using one?

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140126_081647_zpsa5d663dd.jpg

Hope everyone had a good weekend, wishing you guys on the east coast some warmer weather so you can build more! Its been too quiet in here lately!

longislandwrx

01-27-2014, 07:18 AM

Weird, Not sure why it's plugged but you should just need to move that plug transfer the water lines over as well as your oil drain.

this blouch 16g shows the lines in stock config. I would give the manufacturer a call to verify.

25709

You just need the o-ring for the motive tgvs, there's a youtube video showing how to install the rings. that's a perfect shot to illustrate the advantage of porting the intake manifold.

here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHEUoZywfU

Brando

01-29-2014, 01:06 PM

Last night 1/28/2014 at 7:26 pacific time I became a proud father of an 8 pound 8 ounce beautiful girl. I couldn't be happier and everyone in our lives is glowing with the new arrival.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/birth/IMG_9113_zps6f1b39d7.jpg

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http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/birth/IMG_9142_zps88034912.jpg

I'm going to be staying with momma bear and baby bear at L&D for the next 3 days so LOTS of idle time holding this bundle of joy.

Cheers everyone

David Hodgkins

01-29-2014, 01:17 PM

Well big boy, did you cry?

You will NEVER create anything else more beautiful. Congratulations Daddy!

Let me know when it's ok to come by and say hello both Brandi and Raquel.

:)

Mechie3

01-29-2014, 01:30 PM

Congrats!

longislandwrx

01-29-2014, 01:40 PM

wonderful. congrats man.

ehansen007

01-29-2014, 01:44 PM

Congrats man!

K3LAG

01-29-2014, 01:44 PM

What a blessing. Congratulations!

wleehendrick

01-29-2014, 01:45 PM

Congrats Brandon! :)

Now you'll have to slow down your build, and I won't look like such a slacker in comparison. ;)

RM1SepEx

01-29-2014, 01:59 PM

Congrats! Most enjoyable and fulfilling project you will ever undertake... be sure to enjoy all the stages as she evolves!

Bob_n_Cincy

01-29-2014, 01:59 PM

Wow, Congratulations

AZPete

01-29-2014, 03:31 PM

Welcome to the Forum, Raquel! And, congratulations to all. She's beautiful!

Canadian818

01-29-2014, 03:42 PM

Congrats, you life just got turned right side up, there's nothing better!

Santiago

01-29-2014, 03:47 PM

... be sure to enjoy all the stages as she evolves!

Amen to that! Congratulations, and take the advice - really enjoy all that each different stage has to offer; you'll only see them one time around, so make the most of them, don't lament the loss of any, and look forward to the next.

Best,
-j

Xusia

01-29-2014, 03:55 PM

Serious congrats man! :)

jbackslash

01-29-2014, 04:33 PM

Congrats on the new girl. I couldn't believe how full my life really got when my two girls came into the world. If you and the wife ever need a date night down in the San Diego area, feel free to drop her off. We love having little ones in the house. (our girls are teenagers now)

Goldwing

01-29-2014, 04:37 PM

That is awesome!! Everyone looks healthy and happy. Soak it up, some of life's best moments right there!

Kurk818

01-29-2014, 05:01 PM

My son turns 7 weeks tomorrow. Congrats! :)

THE ITALIAN

01-29-2014, 07:31 PM

Way To Go!!! That is a blessing.

Start saving NOW !
Take tons of pics every month, it goes so dam fast and they seem to grow-up even faster. I miss my baby daughter, she's 13 now and she is sort of like a werewolf, only if a full moon was a warning.

metalmaker12

01-29-2014, 07:34 PM

Awwwwesome!!!congrats

Wayne Presley

01-29-2014, 08:37 PM

Congrats again Brandon, I forgot to tell you on the phone today my daughter Heather's birthday is now shared with Rocky.

Doowop

01-31-2014, 12:32 PM

Congrats Brandon!! and Super congrats to the mum, she did all the work!! :)
Beautiful baby and family!!

Brando

01-31-2014, 01:14 PM

Finally home in our own bed. It's so nice to lay down, hospital seats don't sleep so well. Brandi is lying next to me and I'm relaying all the posts you guys left as she smiles with appreciation. This community has already offered our family some great new friends and want everyone to know how special that is to me. Thank you for all your kind thoughtful words they are shared among my family with smiles and warm vibes.

Little Rocki and momma Brandi both require a considerable amount of attention which I am giving my 110% to fulfill. I love every second of it but sleep deprivation is starting to show its colors and I'm somewhere between awake and asleep. Despite the zombie feeling nothing takes away from the joy I'm experiencing and minute by minute its setting in what it means to be a dad. I am so happy.

Thank you again for all your support, it put a smile on all our faces and your good energy is well absorbed and appreciated!

I can't help but share just a few more pictures. Maybe I am bias but I think she is so cute! I am a proud daddy now….

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/BabyBirth/mybabypic_zps17090c6d.png

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/BabyBirth/baby2_zps471b27e2.jpg

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http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/BabyBirth/P1280052_zpscf73bc6c.jpg

Congrats again Brandon, I forgot to tell you on the phone today my daughter Heather's birthday is now shared with Rocky.
That is so cool! Happy Birthday Heather & Rocki!

Brando

01-31-2014, 01:16 PM

It's hard not to keep posting pictures of this little gem, but I'm going to take this thread back on track. I hope you don't mind the occasional baby picture here and there, I doubt I will be able to resist.

Test fitting the dash and seeing how well I fit with the steering wheel in. Results were pleasing, I was very comfortable with the pedal and steering placement. The shifter was a bit high but the seat is not on brackets yet so I am going to wait until that height is finalized before deciding where to mount it.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140131_085118_zps990e7d62.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140131_085129_zpsbdbb0283.jpg

I have started on the coolant plumbing and later today if time permits want to get the clutch line installed and bled. I have an itch to push a working clutch in while shifting the gears.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140131_085138_zps37139929.jpg

Questions:
My first question is regarding the shift linkage. Both pushrods are off center and bent as far as they are willing. It seems like the bracket needs to be bent a bit to get optimal placement to the lever. Is it OK to have such an extreme bend like this? I tried to bend this bracket but didn't see much progress.

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I had a fitting issue with the bolts that hold the master cylinder to the firewall. They were too short and the tolerance between the nuts and the pedal assembly was too close. Should I grind a hole on each side of the peddle assembly to make room for the bolts or use something like an allen bolt reversed as shown here? I suppose both will work just trying to figure out the best practice.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140131_085223_zps6e39cf32.jpg

AZPete

01-31-2014, 02:33 PM

Cute pictures - keep 'em coming.
I can't help on the shift cables but the best solution on the brake master bolts seems to be grinding one side off the head of the bolt and then inserting it from the inside with the nut on the outside (front). The half-head bolt is then held in place as you tighten the nut. And, don't worry if your master cylinder is slightly askew, they all are and it'll work fine.

Mechie3

01-31-2014, 02:43 PM

I think all of the shifter cables are like that. It seems to work, though probably not quite ideal. Does it matter? Don't know. I've got a long(er) term project to redesign that area as I think it could be done better (at a price).

Pete is correct about the bolt. I did the hole cutting method and when others mentioned the bolt method that seemed much easier.

JeromeS13

01-31-2014, 04:55 PM

You're not using the OEM blinker or wiper stalks?

phillig

01-31-2014, 07:36 PM

Congratulations. Those pictures of all your happiness make looking at the car trivial. Thank you for sharing. My youngest is 31 so it's been awhile for us.

FFRSpec72

01-31-2014, 07:48 PM

You're not using the OEM blinker or wiper stalks?

Don't need no stink'n blinkers on a "R" and why would we need wipers w/o a windshield ?

flynntuna

01-31-2014, 08:33 PM

You could go with these...

JeromeS13

02-01-2014, 01:41 AM

Don't need no stink'n blinkers on a "R" and why would we need wipers w/o a windshield ?

Forgot he had an R. Haha.

Brando

02-01-2014, 01:48 AM

wleehendrick

02-01-2014, 12:25 PM

Even though it's an R I wanted to keep the option to make it street legal. I went with VCP's street harness to have the flexibility to register the 818 but short term this car won't be seeing any public roads. If I do end up registering the car with CA's SB100 I will build the column back up but in the meantime prefer to keep it as simple as possible.

Hey Brandon, I forwarded you an attachment I got from BigAl from this thread (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?4393-DMV-Vehicle-Registration-Information-Thread&p=136463&viewfull=1#post136463). SB100 lets you get past current emissions requirements, but apparently CHP is getting picky with the safety inspections, enforcing DOT windshield glass and wipers, which will impact your plans to register an R.

Keep the pictures coming, she's beautiful!

Doowop

02-01-2014, 09:39 PM

Brandon,she is so cute. you should just put her in the pictures when you take pics of the car! :)

Brando

02-04-2014, 10:42 AM

Lee thanks for all the SB100 details. I planned on purchasing a FFR windshield for street driving. In your supplied link I read that Al felt the windshield wont pass the ref's inspection however i find that hard to believe since to my understanding is that the supplied windshield comes from a MR2 (correct me if i'm wrong). I do plan on purchasing a FFR windshield and if i have to replace the glass so be it. I will find a way to get the wipers working one way or another and will then build back the steering column for blinkers/wipers/lights when its needed. I'm not super concerned about rushing to get this car registered. I'm happy driving my truck around town as its safe and fits my lifestyle. My thought is to race the car for the remainder of 2014 and by next year perhaps register it for 2015. Absolute worst case is I will register the car in Nevada but I highly doubt there will be a need. Thanks for the info keep it coming.

As far as my build is going....progress has been slowed way down. In-laws are staying with us, sleep is sporadic, and this baby is addicting.
I am still waiting for my gas tank and i am running out of things to do without the missing back ordered items from FFR. I did get an opportunity to build last night so I pulled the motor and made a rear firewall out of 1/8" aluminum and EZ cool insulation. I noticed in other threads people were using rivnuts to mount the firewall but I figured since I was using silicon and had no plans to remove this firewall I would 3/16" rivets. The bottom rail didn't have enough overlap to comfortably install the rivets so i used silicon exclusively. Overall I am pleased with the results and feel much better about protection and heat into the cabin and fuel cell. My headers are ceramic coated on the inside and out so this should compliment my efforts.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140203_191649_zps520e089b.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140203_201852_zpse45eab21.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140203_203701_zps1605edce.jpg

Next on the list is to build back the motor and get it ready for Waynes harness which I believe is arriving this week. I'm probably going to purchase a boyd fuel tank since FFR does't have a definitive release date on their "tall guy" tanks that are being produced.

wleehendrick

02-04-2014, 01:14 PM

longislandwrx

02-04-2014, 02:08 PM

Tell us more about this Nevada registration... I did notice the original SEMA car had Nevada plates.

DruOdil

02-04-2014, 02:53 PM

Looking great, and congrats on your beautiful baby. I still want to drop buy but I have been out of town. I need to catch up and I will text you next week. What a great year for you.
Keep living the dream, Dru

Brando

02-04-2014, 04:54 PM

Tell us more about this Nevada registration... I did notice the original SEMA car had Nevada plates.

I haven't done enough research to confidently speak about the Nevada DMV requirements when registering a kit car. I haven't been diligent on surrounding states requirements because i KNOW i can get this car to pass on CA's requirements. It is my understanding Nevada and Arizona are more lenient but I can't backup that claim Perhaps I spoke to soon before throwing that out there.

I don't know about you, but i want my plates to represent the state i'm driving my car in. Out of state plates are an absolute last resort

Dru- Hit me up man...its a good point in the build to stop by

Doowop

02-04-2014, 05:20 PM

good call on the insulation.
So are you gonna paint the green axle parts to match the red of the aftermarket parts? :) it bugs me.... :) ;)

Brando

02-04-2014, 05:26 PM

That's a good idea i didn't even notice it but now that you mentioned it I won't be able to get past it. I wanted something to do that was simple tonight, and that will fit the bill nicely.

07FIREBLADE

02-04-2014, 06:31 PM

Where did you get the trailing arms. Looking good wish my schedule would permit me to stop by. I'm like down the street right now.

Brando

02-04-2014, 07:37 PM

If your down the street then come on by while your local. PM me. The trailing arms i purchased on ebay. Here is the link of what I purchased

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=261372331006

Something to note, the wrx sti spacers included with this package didn't fit properly and I had to have a machine shop trim down the spacers by approx 1/8" or so on the L/R both sides of all arms.

07FIREBLADE

02-04-2014, 07:47 PM

Ok, I was looking at a set of arms like that awhile ago. Currently in class or I would stop by.

metalmaker12

02-04-2014, 08:12 PM

I kinda like the axles green as they were intended

Racebrewer

02-04-2014, 10:14 PM

Hi Brando,

How did the build quality of the arms seem?

Thanks,
John

If your down the street then come on by while your local. PM me. The trailing arms i purchased on ebay. Here is the link of what I purchased

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=261372331006

Something to note, the wrx sti spacers included with this package didn't fit properly and I had to have a machine shop trim down the spacers by approx 1/8" or so on the L/R both sides of all arms.

Goldwing

02-04-2014, 11:12 PM

My green had some rust near the end, so I cleaned and painted mine black. Nothing else will be green on mine, so, buhbye. That is if the 39* didn't prevent it all from curing, lol.

Brando

02-05-2014, 05:18 PM

Racebrewer. I did quite a bit of searching for comparable products from Cusco and the likes. I have been unable to see any difference to take away from the quality of these trailing arms.

After a weeks of debating I decided last night to rebuild all my wheel bearings. This baby has made the value of life increase dramatically and now I'm rethinking parts of my build. The engine firewall and wheel bearings were the first 2 on my list.

Long story longer.... I will have the arms off in the next 24 hours when i pull the hubs and will shoot some pics of them up close as well as the pieces i had fabricated, you can be the judge.

ehansen007

02-05-2014, 05:38 PM

As far as wipers goes, I'm going to say like the rest of the DMV process it depends on who you go to. I registered the Hot Rod, with no fenders, no wipers, and they didn't even check the windshield to see if it was DOT. No bumpers either. I guess we'll see. Congrats again on the baby. Not sure how you're doing both and working but you must not sleep very much! :)

metalmaker12

02-05-2014, 05:55 PM

Wow in RI we need wipers and the windshield, I wanna move lol

Brando

02-05-2014, 06:37 PM

I get in 1 hour build time before work and 1 hour after. I am trying to extract every second i can and realize i was wasting alot of time just staring at this thing :D. At any rate your right...i'm not sleeping much for the time being. No complaints here. Eric do you have your 818 back from S.D. yet?

Congrats again on the baby. Not sure how you're doing both and working but you must not sleep very much! :)

Rasmus

02-05-2014, 07:07 PM

I haven't done enough research to confidently speak about the Nevada DMV requirements when registering a kit car.

I have. Registration in Nevada (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12488-Registration-in-Nevada).

ehansen007

02-05-2014, 11:18 PM

no its still down there. Lots o work to do.

Goldwing

02-06-2014, 12:01 AM

I had one questionable bearing, the rest were good. I'm with you on the firewall. Anything to prevent a puncture of the gas tank in an accident is a good thing. Plus heat and sound control. I bet when a soft or hard comes along, that extra firewall will make a difference. I guess I better start looking for a source of aluminum for that.

Brando

02-06-2014, 05:13 PM

I have been speaking to several well respected Subaru racers in the area and the input from them on the 5 x 100 wheel bearings seems the same. According to what they say, if the track has lines that run the car over the candy cane frequently then they are replacing their wheel bearings after 4-5 weekends of racing. Half the tracks in CA would fall within that category. In addition I plan on running hoosiers or slicks with spacers to offset so that will increase the strain on the bearings. Bottom line is I want to go with 5 x 114 wheel bearings.

STI knuckles with pre-built 5 x 114 cost around $600 for all 4 corners which isn't much more than installing new 5 x 100's in my current hubs. Earlier in my build I had to replace my rear knuckles due to the fact the space between the holes for mounting to wilwood bracket was 3.75" where the correct WRX knuckles were 4.5" apart. I contacted wilwood and they claimed they didn't make a bracket for the STI hubs. So i source new rear hubs.

What I am trying accomplish is have a rhobust 5 x 114 wheel bearings working with my 12" Wilwood brakes. There has to be a solution out there, does anyone have any idea how I can accomplish this?

C.Plavan

02-06-2014, 05:27 PM

David Hodgkins

02-06-2014, 05:34 PM

Brandon, Call Jim Schenck @ FFR. I believe the Factory R is running Wilwoods...

:)

Wayne Presley

02-06-2014, 06:36 PM

Brandon, the wheel bearings are going to survive much, much longer since they are only carrying half the weight...

Brando

02-06-2014, 06:57 PM

Good stuff. I put the advice on this forum over all others. I will just do new stock bearings and call it a day. Thanks for the guidance

Brando

02-07-2014, 12:16 AM

Hi Brando,

How did the build quality of the arms seem?

Thanks,
John

I extended the arms to their fullest and they get around 1 1/4" inch more reach. They are slightly heavier than the stock arms. In the closeup you can see the silver where I had to machine off about 1/8" inch from the black spacers. In my opinion the quality seems fine. Hope this helps

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140206_204829_zps2e7b2fdd.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140206_205121_zpsd6a35dc5.jpg

RM1SepEx

02-07-2014, 07:04 AM

I have the same transverse arms but did not buy the trailing arms. I also had to machine the bushings for th transverse arms, I cut equal amts from each side. IIRC they were approx. .100 too wide

longislandwrx

02-07-2014, 07:48 AM

LIC Motorsports machines sti front knuckles to fit WRX applications. you can get them with 5x100 hubs.

I would see how fast your first set of bearings wears out before you drop the cash to swap them out.

http://www.licmotorsports.com/products/lic-motorsports-front-5x1143-knuckles-5x100-02-07-wrx-04-sti_lic-03079012

FFRSpec72

02-07-2014, 10:41 AM

I understand the concern with the 5x100 wheel bearings on a heavy stock car, however I think the weight of the 818R will be the benefit for the bearing lasting much, much longer.

Agree, I just replaced all 4 spindles bearings, seals, etc. The rears were no fun to replace with the backing plate in the way. I expect that I will have no issues with the bearing for several years.

JeromeS13

02-07-2014, 03:11 PM

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140206_205121_zpsd6a35dc5.jpg

Would you happen to know the distance of the stock trailing arm, from the center of each bolt hole?

metalmaker12

02-07-2014, 05:11 PM

In this setup the wrx bearings will last a lifetime.

Brando

02-08-2014, 12:09 AM

Would you happen to know the distance of the stock trailing arm, from the center of each bolt hole?
trailing arms measure 20 3/8" and lateral links 16 1/8"

JeromeS13

02-08-2014, 11:08 PM

trailing arms measure 20 3/8" and lateral links 16 1/8"

Thanks!

FFRSpec72

02-09-2014, 12:09 AM

Brandon, Call Jim Schenck @ FFR. I believe the Factory R is running Wilwoods...

:)

I talked to John George and the one he was running at Watkins Glen had the 6 piston Willwoods.

C.Plavan

02-09-2014, 11:23 AM

6 piston brakes will be overkill- You can save the cash for something else. I have 2 piston fronts on a heavier race car that is 40+ years old..... Never had a braking issue with correct fluid and pads.

Brando

02-09-2014, 01:20 PM

Either way the rear knuckle calipers need to be 4.5" between the holes. I wasn't able to find a solution to make the rear Wilwood caliper bracket work with a knuckle that will take a 5 x 114 (3.75" between holes) so I just opted to press new bearings in the rear. The 4 or 6 piston will still run into an issue if you get the rear STI knuckles to support 5 x 114.

The solution I ended up going with is purchase new front knuckles with larger pre-pressed 5 x 100. I didn't want to locate & purchase 4 new axles to fit the 114's so this works well for me. Until a few days ago I wasn't aware they changed the front wheel bearing size after a certain year. It is my understanding these are more robust than the 2002 bearings I had from my donor but still 5 x 100. I will get more details unless someone else can elaborate further on this.

Speaking of that POS...I think i need to take a moment to vent.
For those of you building an R...I feel using a donor isn't the best way to go. I see many of the R builds are not going that route and you guys made a smart decision IMO. I think if you dig hard enough to find an ideal fit for the donor then perhaps it might be worth it if you wish to keep things stock. Not realistic especially for track use.

What I have used at this point from my donor:

A peddle box that needed some bending to get to fit due to donor accident
Steering Rack (had to replace 1 tie rod end)
Axle pieces
A few nuts and bolts

THATS IT!!

Replacement List:

I tried to bleed my clutch last night but it shot a drop or 2 per compression. Trashed.
The master cylinder looked pretty tattered. The damage from the crash jacked up the bracket. Turns out you can't just order that bracket without the booster (that i could find). So i just ordered replacement brake & clutch cylinders
Tire & wheels are obvious replacements as are the seat(s)
Donor didn't come with a motor so I found one with $3k which supposedly had 45k mi. That's was for the motor, trans and they threw in a radiator for free.
My rear knuckles didn't work for the Wilwood setup and front i replaced for something with a slightly better bearings.
I'm assuming the Boyd tank that's coming my way wont need the donors fuel tank pieces
Some of my rear traverse/trailing arms were either bent or stripped/stuck together. Not to mention no ability to adjust them.
Crash damaged to the left front LCA, so went with 06 aluminum LCA's
Steering column i suppose I can use, but there was no key! I decided to purchase a second column. One will be stripped and painted and one will be street. Not sure how i will deal with the key situation being 1 column wont use it anyways
Wire harnes...I guess that's up to your patients level. I can't see myself spending weeks learning and dieting wires. I would blow a head gasket. I did still need 7 ends of the donor harness to splice into the TEC-S VCP sells so i suppose that might count for something.

All in all I also chose poorly on my donor. Most of you found a much more usable WRX to dismantle.
The time and energy spent stripping the donor probably wasn't a financially sound move...but it did help pass the time waiting for my kit and hacking away at it was a stress reliever

Brando

02-09-2014, 02:15 PM

Does anyone have a clear shot of how this piece goes in? I can't seem to find one.
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_104922-Copy_zps08bdd86f.jpg

The rear body mount brace didn't line up, it was about 1/8" off. The only way I could secure it was by using a vice
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_065636_zps547b6511.jpg

I did a test fit and will be shaving off at least 1/4" of the linkage today so i can find 2nd, 4th and reverse.

This is 3rd
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_073312_zpsa0b1a331.jpg

Here is neutral
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_073238-Copy_zpsc9be25eb.jpg

What is the purpose of the aluminum in the scoop? Can this be omitted?
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140208_175514_zps0433bfa1.jpg

Just for fun... a taste of months coming
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140208_151957_zps78523a8f.jpg

Just for fun. I treated myself and the family a preview of whats to come
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_065444_zps8c0afec9.jpg

RM1SepEx

02-09-2014, 04:59 PM

that piece of aluminum is part of the IC ducting

metalmaker12

02-09-2014, 07:55 PM

I scraped it and vented it, I am in not using the FFR supplied ducting, my plans are different. I also plan on using the r winshield down the road.

RM1SepEx

02-09-2014, 10:44 PM

I'm not a fan of that ducting system either, please keep posting alternatives

longislandwrx

02-10-2014, 07:58 AM

that piece of aluminum is part of the IC ducting

I'm pretty sure that's not the IC aluminum, from what I can tell its a piece of front cockpit trim that doesn't fit the R... there should be another for the other side. You will need to make your own to fill the holes. Unless FFR sent me two sets, I have my IC aluminum wrapped up still. So I could be wrong.

Brando

02-10-2014, 02:01 PM

After grinding the shift bracket as far as I was willing it was still binding against the rear fiberglass panel.
I ended drilling out the center of the shift bracket so I could slide it a bit deeper then redrilled the pin hole. It worked great, I have plenty of room now.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/shifter_zpsb90fa488.jpg

metalmaker12

02-10-2014, 03:57 PM

That's what I did, great minds think alike .

RM1SepEx

02-10-2014, 04:43 PM

FFR did send you two sets of IC ducting... the second came in that "upgrade box" that they sent to all of us! :o I wrote old on one set and revised on the other...

Brando

02-10-2014, 05:09 PM

Upgrade box? Haven't received but good to know. No B.O. shipments received either but i'm being patient as it hasn't even been a month yet since delivery.

Bob_n_Cincy

02-10-2014, 05:50 PM

Upgrade box? Haven't received but good to know. No B.O. shipments received either but i'm being patient as it hasn't even been a month yet since delivery.

brando,
the update box showed up in late September.
That was to fix early design changes or missing parts.
I don't think you will be getting an update box
bob

metalmaker12

02-10-2014, 07:53 PM

FFR did send you two sets of IC ducting... the second came in that "upgrade box" that they sent to all of us! :o I wrote old on one set and revised on the other...

Yea I scraped them all, aluminum is worth some money ya know lol. I honestly can't see how there ducting works that great. I am going to use the quarter vent holes I cut out to go to a vent in front of the rear well that deflects the air towards the cooler. Maybe it works, maybe I will try something else, but I will be checking for cooler temp and airflow readings before, after, different idea etc.

RM1SepEx

02-10-2014, 08:58 PM

Upgrade box? Haven't received but good to know. No B.O. shipments received either but i'm being patient as it hasn't even been a month yet since delivery.

mine is #17, PU 8/1/13, we got a box that included a bunch of stuff in September... no packing list :-( it did have a sheet of instructions for some of the stuff...

for your B/O just keep calling, they don't really have a B/O process

Brando

02-10-2014, 11:35 PM

I will start bugging FFR for B.O. items once I run out of things to do.

My shift linkage is finally done and I'm really happy with the location. I installed the shifter in the stock location but it didn't feel right. I liked what longislandwrx did and positioned the shifter under the rails. It feels much better lower and more forward.
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140210_173239_zps2ca479da.jpg

I also installed the IC aluminum, gas pedal and removed unneeded aluminum from the steering column and painted it.
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140210_191854_zps55434f16.jpg

longislandwrx

02-11-2014, 06:49 AM

Looks good man. Makes me want to put my tunnel in when I get home.

I take it your are not going to drive this on the street, or are you just going to run a switch for turn signals?

brando,
the update box showed up in late September.

I picked up my kit after this. I will check them when I get home tonight.

Brando

02-11-2014, 08:40 AM

Thanks for showing me the way.

I have 2 steering columns. One stripped the other stock. I do intend to get this registered and drive on the street occasionally. It too sweet a car not to

longislandwrx

02-12-2014, 04:08 PM

Does anyone have a clear shot of how this piece goes in? I can't seem to find one.
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140209_104922-Copy_zps08bdd86f.jpg

FFR did send you two sets of IC ducting... the second came in that "upgrade box" that they sent to all of us! :o I wrote old on one set and revised on the other...

i'm pretty sure here's that piece, as seen on Eriks car.

26171

drdracing

02-12-2014, 05:19 PM

That looks like one of the pieces that close off the front fenderwell area of the car. There should be a left and a right one and they fasten to the frame just inside the front suspension.

Brando

02-13-2014, 01:33 AM

L.I.wrx have you found a spot for panel pair 80129 on your R?
Drdracing i think you might be referring to 80174, i was looking for 80129. I have received a few pairs of panels that belong exclusively for the S. I think panel 35 & 36 are a few of those

Tonight I tried my luck in applying vinyl 4d wrap on my interior dash. FAIL. That turned out harder than it looks i will leave it to the pros. In hindsight i should have snapped a picture it was good for a laugh

On a better note I received my clutch & brake master cylinders today. I know might seem trivial but after upgrading the clutch, mating the trans,installing motor, bleeding lines then finally pressing on the clutch pedal and having the pressure plate release felt like a milestone achieved. Easily pleased I suppose but I am going to bed satisfied

Brando

02-14-2014, 02:33 PM

I'm ready for tires and wheels. I took the plunge today and went with the following

Wheels: (from VCP)
Enkei Kojin
17x8 + 45 Front
18x8.5 + 45 Rear

Tires: (tirerack)
Hoosiers R6
225/40-17 Front heat cycled
255/35-18 Rear heat cycled

AZPete

02-14-2014, 05:34 PM

Brando, I understand the thrill of the small victories like your clutch pedal. It's all the little victories that make the build so much fun. Last night I identified and tagged a bunch of the wiring harness ends, thanks to Mechie3's work, and left the garage feeling successful. It's all about hundreds of little victories.

nkw8181

02-15-2014, 10:50 AM

AZPete I'm right there with ya on the wiring. Following Mechie3's guide

Brando, I understand the thrill of the small victories like your clutch pedal. It's all the little victories that make the build so much fun. Last night I identified and tagged a bunch of the wiring harness ends, thanks to Mechie3's work, and left the garage feeling successful. It's all about hundreds of little victories.

longislandwrx

02-17-2014, 06:46 AM

L.I.wrx have you found a spot for panel pair 80129 on your R?

Brando... no it wont fit, just saving it for spare aluminum. the bar it attaches to is absent on the R. This is where it goes:

26298

Brando

02-17-2014, 11:30 AM

Finally the mystery is solved. Well played thanks.
I wanted to ask you another question. Are you planning to cut your center dash to fit the shifters custom location or going with a aluminum custom piece like Aloha818 did?

longislandwrx

02-17-2014, 01:43 PM

I think I'm going to end up with a combination of both. I'm going to start by having one of the "legs" of the tunnel sheared off, and then cut a hole on top for the shifter. Then I can rivet the top and left side as one but have the right hand rivnuted so it can be unscrewed for access. I have to see how the fiberglass piece fits without the shifter piece. I may need to make an adapter up front.

tmoretta

02-18-2014, 11:55 AM

Since I have my transfer case disassembled and therefore access to the shifter, I am thinking of re-drilling the hole in the rod and cutting off atleast 1/2 inch of shaft.

Brando

02-18-2014, 12:40 PM

Since I have my transfer case disassembled and therefore access to the shifter, I am thinking of re-drilling the hole in the rod and cutting off atleast 1/2 inch of shaft.

I considered doing that but the density of the rod swayed me to redrill the bracket instead. If you have a way to drill through that rod I would go that route as well.

Xusia

02-18-2014, 11:07 PM

Is the hole/pin required? Can't it be clamped? What if you drilled just a little ways and used a set screw or something?

Brando

02-19-2014, 11:48 AM

When you say drilled are you referring to drilling the rod or bracket?
Either way there is a fair amount of tension being put on that piece and I wanted to remove any slop possible. Not sure if an alternative would provide such a tight marriage between the rod & clamp. In fact i also used jb weld (i don't have a welder) between the bracket and FFR supplied bracket arm to remove any slop between those. Its super tight feeling at the shifter now will very little play.

Status Update:
knuckles reinstalled with new bearings and ARP studs
Brake lines are run and bled
Clutch run and bled
Radiator & Coolant lines completed
Dashboard and cluster installed
Center dash, center aluminum and shifter installed (PITA on the center dash)
Throttle cable installed
New energy anti-sway bar mounts

So that leaves a few major areas left to be completed.
Wire harness & ECU should be delivered this week (VCP street with VCP switchpanel)
Wheels/Tires installed (arrive in a week)
Boyd tank and fuel system (arrives this week)
Seat and harnesses (waiting on fuel system to be complete)
Body panels

I optimistically scheduled a dyno tune and once over check with Outfront for the end of next week. I also scheduled a DMV appointment early march to start the registration process.

It's an aggressive timeline and I hope to make it

Brando

02-19-2014, 12:04 PM

Correction, as i walked out the door for work this was sitting on my doorstep.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_090126_zps4a64b3de.jpg

Super excited to come home from work

Rasmus

02-19-2014, 12:18 PM

I optimistically scheduled a dyno tune and once over check with Outfront for the end of next week. I also scheduled a DMV appointment early march to start the registration process.

It's an aggressive timeline and I hope to make it

A hard deadline always seems to move a project forward quickly.

flynntuna

02-19-2014, 01:04 PM

Very cool :cool: Your planning to be at HB this year I'm assuming, right?

Brando

02-19-2014, 01:53 PM

That is my goal, April 26th. I am assuming they will do their autoX on Sunday so i'm trying to get this done in time to get at least 1 day at Streets of Willow for testing prior to that date.

David Hodgkins

02-19-2014, 01:56 PM

Brandon, no AutoX this year...

:(

Brando

02-19-2014, 02:12 PM

Drat, oh well it will still be fun. Stop in soon Rocki wants to meet you

David Hodgkins

02-19-2014, 02:34 PM

You can plan on it! I can't wait to meet her!

You're killing it with your build schedule! We'll have to see if I can match it with the MKIV I'm starting this weekend...

:)

Goldwing

02-19-2014, 03:09 PM

I like the JB weld use idea to marry the 2 shifter brackets. I used a little underneath the lower shock bracket on the LCA, to ensure an evenly stressed joint. I tried matching the surfaces well, the JB weld filler made me feel better about the joint.

EODTech87

02-19-2014, 03:43 PM

Whats the weight of the VCP street with control panel?

longislandwrx

02-19-2014, 04:10 PM

That's great... what did you have to send in to Wayne to get that beauty sent back?

Brando

02-19-2014, 06:24 PM

For the Electromotive TEC-S supplied by Wayne at Verycoolparts.com (http://verycoolparts.com) I had to cut 8 different ends from of my Harness. Here are the pictures of what I cut off followed by the pictures Wayne sent me as a reference with snipping marks. Hope this helps.
Oh yea I also sent $2k.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/IMG_20140101_191632_zpsd14e0c2c.jpg

Brando

02-19-2014, 06:25 PM

Here are the snipping locations supplied by Wayne

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020466_zps158e75a5.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020465_zps5f9b25d5.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020464_zpsa5fd4a52.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020463_zps6b403a6e.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020462_zps3a36ba11.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020461_zpsb89d0437.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/harness/P1020460_zps60d9863e.jpg

Brando

02-19-2014, 06:27 PM

I won't have the switch panel for a few days but will let you know when i receive it.

Whats the weight of the VCP street with control panel?

Rasmus

02-19-2014, 07:10 PM

Nice pictures. Take a few when it gets back from "Wayned".

EODTech87

02-19-2014, 07:21 PM

Check post #164 Rasmus.

Brando

02-20-2014, 01:24 AM

I obviously like pictures more than writing. Why stop now

Need to get some pads on the foot pedals. I am adding a VCP switchpanel to center dash.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_180453_zpse7ccaa74.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_181342_zpse0b519ec.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_180958_zps0df93288.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_180618_zps6b6a2e1c.jpg

Brando

02-20-2014, 01:27 AM

After taking a closer look at the harness I feel inclined to give credit where credit is due. This harness/ecu combo is epic. Every plug and wire is labeled with either a Ptouch or directly on the wire. The length on each segment was so spot on the cord almost fell into its rightful spot. It took 20 minutes to have the wires run and plugged into the majority of locations.

I can't imagine trying to accomplish this piece on my own... Power to the people who are tackling it, for real.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_182120_zps385cdcad.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_182143_zps19632894.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_182702_zps21840bfc.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_181636_zps53cdf61d.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_182517_zps501cc7aa.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_201806_zps93bea69e.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_200909_zpsd430c490.jpg

Rasmus

02-20-2014, 01:37 AM

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140219_180618_zps6b6a2e1c.jpg
Might have the trailing arm installed upside-down, on the wrong side, or both. The concave side goes out. Convex goes in.

What's that firewall insulation material?

Brando

02-20-2014, 02:04 AM

Like so?

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/TrailingArm_zps0a5e35e0.jpg

Thanks for the catch, good eye you have.

The insulation is EZ-Cool (http://www.lobucrod.com/)

Wayne Presley

02-20-2014, 08:06 AM

Goldwing

02-20-2014, 11:40 AM

Your progress is fast, Brando! If you raise your newborn like this, you'll have a high school graduate while my 2-year old is entering middle school, lol.

Wayne Presley

02-20-2014, 03:53 PM

Tail harness routing

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020678_zpsa06f7906.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020678_zpsa06f7906.jpg.html)

You can run the main run down the middle (all years)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020683_zpsfd9ad7b0.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020683_zpsfd9ad7b0.jpg.html)
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020671_zpscaee2cb5.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020671_zpscaee2cb5.jpg.html)

Or down the side (02-06 on the left side, 07 down the right)
you would run them below the upper bars on the R and in the triangle area on the S

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020670_zpsd51617f1.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020670_zpsd51617f1.jpg.html)

Wayne Presley

02-20-2014, 03:59 PM

The relay blocks I put here for easy access (screwed on and not zip tied)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020681_zpsa7495846.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020681_zpsa7495846.jpg.html)

Dash harness goes here, notice the two plugs at the left of the pic, those allow you to unplug the entire dash assembly and not have to try to unplug the ones right on the cluster. That sucks to do on a complete car, ask me how I know...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020684_zps80175d5d.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020684_zps80175d5d.jpg.html)

Starter wire

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020679_zps780f6817.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020679_zps780f6817.jpg.html)

Speed sensor and back up light

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020680_zps95c66f94.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020680_zps95c66f94.jpg.html)

Front harness with fans, horns and lights

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020669_zps04704ce1.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020669_zps04704ce1.jpg.html)

Wayne Presley

02-20-2014, 04:01 PM

You can mount the TEC here as the board is sealed and water resistant.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020675_zps4f6c9573.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020675_zps4f6c9573.jpg.html)

or here

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020677_zpsc90b86af.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020677_zpsc90b86af.jpg.html)

or here

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020676_zpsa7f4c4a3.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020676_zpsa7f4c4a3.jpg.html)

Engine plugs on the 02-06

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020674_zps7426e202.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020674_zps7426e202.jpg.html)

07FIREBLADE

02-20-2014, 05:41 PM

Wayne, does your harness have options to control ABS, OBD2 and and cruise control too?

Brando

02-20-2014, 06:23 PM

Thanks Wayne that was very helpful!

Brando

02-20-2014, 10:10 PM

Wheels arrived today, i just had them mounted and balanced on heat cycled hoosiers R6's. One step closer..

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140220_182111_zpsccf559f0.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140220_182142_zpsd8d91d7c.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140220_182131_zpsb9a3c0d0.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140220_184927_zps616e3202.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140220_184807_zps37d6db4c.jpg

Wayne Presley

02-20-2014, 10:11 PM

Wayne, does your harness have options to control ABS, OBD2 and and cruise control too?
You could add if if you wanted but I do not put them in.

Brando

02-20-2014, 10:14 PM

DEEP THOUGHT

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/photo_zpsacb678c7.jpg

flynntuna

02-21-2014, 12:46 PM

DEEP THOUGHT

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/photo_zpsacb678c7.jpg

Caption: boy I'm glad I look like mom

Harley818

03-10-2014, 01:13 AM

Brandon,
My 818S delivery is May.
Learning from your thread...... and everyone else's.
Stripped most of my engine today. Doing a full rebuild, bearings, rings, belts, water and oil pumps, etc. depends what I find when I take the heads off.

Nice to see you balance the work/project/family. I like the baby pics.... reminds me of my own kids.
I have a 20 yr old, and 18 yr old ....girls, and 16 yr old son. They are worth every minute. Keep spending the time.
I built my first car at 17. My son is now helping with this build as I recover my car interests. They are fun from 0 - 20, and.....??

Harley

David Hodgkins

03-10-2014, 12:01 PM

Hey Brandon,

We have to visit each other again. I want to see your progress and I've got a new roadster I'm working on.

What's the latest on your build?

:)

FFRSpec72

03-10-2014, 12:02 PM

We have to visit each other again.

Come up to Seattle, can always use help !!!!

Brando

03-10-2014, 05:29 PM

Hey Brandon,
We have to visit each other again. I want to see your progress and I've got a new roadster I'm working on.
What's the latest on your build?
:)

The baby slept a considerable amount the first month and I maximized those precious hours building away. Now I have a hungry baby waking every few hours and my morning build shifts have been replaced with well needed catch-up sleep. No surprises here as I planned on everything happening just as it and I am loving every second of it. I do still find time to work on the 818 but its gone from 25 hours a week to 5-10. Right now i'm getting the wiring situated, figuring out dashboard switches, trying to figure out all these vacuum hoses and installing an Air-Water IC. I have been laying low on the forum since any progress is not visually apparent. I hope my next update is my dyno results. Wishful thinking...

So you got a new roadster! That's great! What is to become of your existing roadster...is this a compliment or replacement? I would love to swing by this Sunday if you're around. I will reach out to you on Saturday and will bring the fam by so you can meet Rocki. Look forward to catching up...I need to get out of the house!

Brandon,
My 818S delivery is May.
Learning from your thread...... and everyone else's.
Stripped most of my engine today. Doing a full rebuild, bearings, rings, belts, water and oil pumps, etc. depends what I find when I take the heads off.

Nice to see you balance the work/project/family. I like the baby pics.... reminds me of my own kids.
I have a 20 yr old, and 18 yr old ....girls, and 16 yr old son. They are worth every minute. Keep spending the time.
I built my first car at 17. My son is now helping with this build as I recover my car interests. They are fun from 0 - 20, and.....??
Harley

Very cool. My favorite part about this community is the members and their seemingly strong family values. I definitely fall onto the rookie side of the spectrum with building and parenting alike. Lots of great role models and stories of things to look forward to. Thanks for sharing and good luck with your S build. Just a few short months away!

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:24 AM

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Brando

04-17-2014, 09:25 AM

Yet another placeholder

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:26 AM

And Finally, my last placeholder

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:27 AM

I was having some issues getting the electromotive ECU tuned in my area and decided I wanted to go with the stock ECU.
I had a custom harness made by Brian (iwire). Brian has been a huge help and he is simply a great guy. He does one and only one thing...WRX harnesses. He is crazy good with these things.

Wayne was kind enough to exchange my harness for a few different bells and whistles. Most notable is the AWIC. Wayne has been nothing but a good experience and he has put up with plenty of my BS...so shout out to you Wayne, thanks bro.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170239_zpscb236133.jpg

The switch to the left is for my lights/high beams, blinkers and horn (using wheel horn as well). This switch slides behind the dashboard and is still easy to press the buttons. It's been a nice alternative to using the clunky stock column switches.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170240_zps8fa14253.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170237_zps40ef2803.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170235_zps4616dfc5.jpg

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:29 AM

Picture is worth a thousand words, and since i need to leave for work in 10 min ..... :p

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170233_zps1a915d89.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170230_zpsc338b899.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170236_zps75d09654.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170247_zps6ddc99fe.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170248_zps38dcfa97.jpg

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:30 AM

Wow is this LCA mount dirty! Note to self...clean your parts!

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170241_zps91253a25.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170242_zps98fb22d7.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170234_zps539a80d1.jpg

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:31 AM

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170243_zps217b309d.jpg

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:33 AM

Including blinkers and backup lights. (thanks Brian!)
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/IMG_20140318_194248_zps5dbe52b5.jpg

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:34 AM

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170246_zps9f4e884a.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170245_zps604d2923.jpg

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/tekbroker/BRANDON-ALIEN/Pictures/818/P4170244_zps2600fa85.jpg

I need one last thing before I can enjoy that coveted first start & drive. I am replacing my turbo with a bolt on instead of this import which would require extensive custom plumbing. Dru (DruOdil) has that replacement in hand and I’m picking it up today. In a perfect world next week I will be taking my car for a spin. See you soon Dru!

Brando

04-17-2014, 09:38 AM

C.Plavan

04-17-2014, 09:46 AM

Looking good!

FFRSpec72

04-17-2014, 09:51 AM

I think that's it for my updates. Please note I realize some hose clamps are missing, fuel rails need to be locked down and there are some other lose ends.

Have a great Easter and hope to see some of you in HB next week.

Brandon

Looking good Brandon, I agree that Brian @ iWire knows his stuff and does great work and easy to work with, I should have my harness back from him next week. Thanks for being the template for the wiring harness much appreciated as it saved me a trip down to drop off my car. Good luck with start and keep us posted.

wleehendrick

04-17-2014, 10:42 AM

Hey Brandon, you've been quiet... but obviously busy! Thanks for the info on iWire; he's only a hour up the road, so I just may use him when I tackle my harness soon.

07FIREBLADE

04-17-2014, 12:43 PM

How much was brian service for your wiring harness?

iWire

04-17-2014, 02:08 PM

Hey guys, figured I would post here directly. Brandon's was the prototype so it's not perfect and a has couple design issues (aesthetics not to my liking) that will be sorted out with the next one. What he paid reflects that. The harness is going to be around $2,200 with parts and labor on a custom R harness built to your specs with the goal being that it's entirely plug and play.

The exposed loom you guys see in the front and the back hasn't been wrapped up yet so avert your eyes when it comes to the wiring in those pics. ;)

After I finish up Anthony's so I have better pictures of the final product and will post up a vendor thread with more details.

Santiago

04-17-2014, 04:07 PM

Your roller looks great Brando! So close! Looking forward to hearing about the first drive.

Best,
-j

metalmaker12

04-17-2014, 08:45 PM

FFRSpec72

04-17-2014, 09:03 PM

It is cool that someone is building harnesses, but 2,200 on a ten thousand dollar kit is going to be high for most. I understand what it takes and the labor and material involved, just saying it's going to be a big investment.

Given that the real cost is between 15 and 20k when complete, 10% is a reasonable amount to spend, also when I'm spending $3-400 on a race weekend I can't afford to have an electrical issue as I went through this with my challenge car and then got someone who knew how to build a proper harness.

Santiago

04-18-2014, 07:08 AM

Ascribing "value" on something like this is tough. I'm having a friend do my harness, but if I wasn't I'd be looking for super-reliable options as well. Having been driven mad before with all manner of electrical gremlins on old cars, I can see the value of dropping some coin on a well-developed solution.

BTW, Brando do you always work on your car barefoot? Oh wait [as he checks location], yep, knew it...California. :o

Best,
-j

iWire

04-18-2014, 11:22 AM

It is cool that someone is building harnesses, but 2,200 on a ten thousand dollar kit is going to be high for most. I understand what it takes and the labor and material involved, just saying it's going to be a big investment.

I totally agree, it's not cheap, but I believe the end result will speak for itself. Consider that the man hours to build one complete plug and play harness to customer spec is well over the 20 hour mark as I'm basically building them from scratch using bits from the original Subaru harness and stringing it all together with high quality fresh wire. This kit is meant to be high end and do understand it will be outside the budget for some. I will try to introduce lower cost options as I get deeper into the market to see what people are asking for, their budget, their goals, and what is feasible/practical.

Given that the real cost is between 15 and 20k when complete, 10% is a reasonable amount to spend, also when I'm spending $3-400 on a race weekend I can't afford to have an electrical issue as I went through this with my challenge car and then got someone who knew how to build a proper harness.

Beautifully said.

Ascribing "value" on something like this is tough. I'm having a friend do my harness, but if I wasn't I'd be looking for super-reliable options as well. Having been driven mad before with all manner of electrical gremlins on old cars, I can see the value of dropping some coin on a well-developed solution.

BTW, Brando do you always work on your car barefoot? Oh wait [as he checks location], yep, knew it...California. :o

Best,
-j

I usually work in sandals or barefoot. Haha

I'll get a thread posted up so that we can discuss any questions/concerns over there and leave this thread to drooling over Brandon's car. :D

Bob_n_Cincy

04-19-2014, 12:27 AM

The wiring harness is the favorite part of the build for me. Because I am very proud of my work when it do and I did it my self. I am very experienced in doing this kind of work.

I think $2200 is a very good price for a proper harness as I know the hours it takes.
I will have 50+ hours into my harness studying, investigating parts, building harness and intalling and testing.
Bob

flynntuna

04-19-2014, 08:48 AM

For 2K, you could buy the ISIS system cut the weight and and have the ability to expand and add custom options. http://www.isispower.com/

Wayne Presley

04-19-2014, 09:34 AM

For 2K, you could buy the ISIS system cut the weight and and have the ability to expand and add custom options. http://www.isispower.com/

But you still don't have the wiring for the motor...

FFRSpec72

04-19-2014, 10:51 AM

For 2K, you could buy the ISIS system cut the weight and and have the ability to expand and add custom options. http://www.isispower.com/

With either Wayne's or Brian's system you get the weight cut (from 49lbs to between 7-10 lbs) you get expandability and you get a complete harness (body, dash and engine) and they connect to factory plugs, I bet you with the ISIS system you are well over 3K when your done and hours of labor.

iWire

04-19-2014, 11:46 AM

But you still don't have the wiring for the motor...

Exactly.

With either Wayne's or Brian's system you get the weight cut (from 49lbs to between 7-10 lbs) you get expandability and you get a complete harness (body, dash and engine) and they connect to factory plugs, I bet you with the ISIS system you are well over 3K when your done and hours of labor.

I would say you'd be in it at least 3k and the labor to build the system is probably only marginally less if you factor in wiring up the engine. They give you the control box, which is simpler (maybe) but you still have to get the input/outputs where they need to go which means running wire through the car anyway.

Bill Waters

04-20-2014, 06:47 PM

Brando - what wheels do you have and what size, offset, etc.?

Thanks

lsxsean

04-20-2014, 08:10 PM

Good luck with build!

Brando

04-20-2014, 10:39 PM

Thanks Isxsean!

Bill,

Wheels:
Enkei Kojin
17x8 + 45 Front
18x8.5 + 45 Rear

Tires:
Hoosiers R6
225/40-17 Front
255/35-18 Rear

I should probably mention that it took 20mm spacers on each rear to have the inside tire clear the trailing arms. With the extra width the tires rub the fenders so I opted for Waynes trailing arms which shift them inward an inch or two. I am installing those tomorrow and will let you know how they fit...keep in mind my toe-in is eyeballed. I should get a proper alignment this week.

B

Bill Waters

04-21-2014, 03:30 PM

Thanks, Brando; I, too, have Wayne's trailing ams. I'll bet they fix your problem.

Bill

Brando

04-22-2014, 12:51 PM

So I flipped on my ignition to find out my injector o-rings were not seated well. After cleaning the fuel that sprayed everywhere I came the conclusion that I needed to do some more engine work. I had to address some missing water lines, vacuum hoses, reseating the fuel rails, fixing another fuel leak at the fuel filter and replacing the turbo & plumbing.

Last night Brian @ Iwire came by after his hockey game to button up a few things and Dru’s engine builder Ron was assisting me on a few things outside my capabilities. It was around midnight when I flipped the ignition and all fuel leaks were resolved. I disabled the fuel pump to kick over the motor and prime the oil. I hit the start button and to my surprise it fired up! I didn't realize that the pressure already in the lines was enough to fire the engine up. That was good for a shot of adrenaline!

When I say surprise…mind you I live in a close quarter family neighborhood. Having the garage wide open and this thing firing up unexpectedly at midnight setting off the fire alarm a few seconds later was an adrenaline filled 15 seconds. I have never ripped apart a fire detector that fast. Let’s call it a night guys…high fives for all.

This morning I wanted to enjoy that satisfaction one more time….

http://youtu.be/jjSAARukZhs

FFRSpec72

04-22-2014, 01:00 PM

Congrats on a major milestone !

C.Plavan

04-22-2014, 01:17 PM

So jealous. That is cool. I cant wait either.

AZPete

04-22-2014, 01:57 PM

There's life in it! Congrats, Brando!

longislandwrx

04-22-2014, 02:08 PM

hah yeah always pull the fuse when you are cranking! nice job. the smile on your face says it all.

wleehendrick

04-22-2014, 02:22 PM

Congrats, Brandon!

28218

iWire

04-22-2014, 04:05 PM

w00t w00t!

The look on Brandon's face when it fired up unexpectedly was priceless! Also got to test the master shutoff in the process (it worked). lol

Way to go Brandon!

Doowop

04-22-2014, 05:55 PM

Awesome Brandon, I
just finally ordered my kit!! :)

Brando

04-23-2014, 12:59 PM

I went to the Long Beach Grand Prix the weekend before last. Great time as always.
Has nothing to do with my build...but since it's racing it's still an acceptable post on my build thread right?

How cool would that 2 seater F1 car be...scare the life out of anyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A0ji9z3ZIE

Doowop

04-23-2014, 04:44 PM

cool.
not an F1 though, just an Indy car.

Brando

04-26-2014, 11:29 PM

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AZPete

04-27-2014, 10:32 AM

Amazing crowd. I gotta be there next year in my 818.

ehansen007

04-27-2014, 11:05 AM

Aren't you glad you brought it? :)

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/ehansen007/C844714D-89D6-4048-8217-DDD2C9F339E0_zps2ngax0vk.jpg (http://s897.photobucket.com/user/ehansen007/media/C844714D-89D6-4048-8217-DDD2C9F339E0_zps2ngax0vk.jpg.html)

Brando

04-27-2014, 11:46 AM

Aren't you glad you brought it? :)

The shirt or the car? ;)

That was a really fun day, sad my 15 minutes are over.

Brando

04-27-2014, 11:57 AM

I took my car for a spin after the show yesterday and got on it. After 10 minutes of semi-hard driving it started getting hot. I drove around slowly and the temp still kept climbing.
In hindsight I wish I would have felt to the radiator to make sure it was hot so I know the water pump & thermostat was working.

What's my best troubleshooting approach at figuring out the root of the overheating?

Thermostat? Air in system?

Mitch Wright

04-27-2014, 02:10 PM

I start by looking for air trapped in the system.

C.Plavan

04-27-2014, 02:29 PM

+1 on air in system. Do have one of those bleeder pieces that others have put on? I need to find one also.

RM1SepEx

04-27-2014, 03:51 PM

Brando

04-27-2014, 05:16 PM

did you connect the top of the engine coolant output to the thermostat housing with a small hose? I added a brass nipple to the aluminum output connection from th motor where you use the 90 degree hose. without it the system woul;d be near impossible to bleed. Photos on my thread... God only knows how far back... sorry for that.

Page 10 on your thread seems to be where you addressed the coolant burping. I still am having a tough time getting my arms around just what to do. I shot a video in hopes you might be able to identify where I went wrong...but now i realize i should have shot the turbo coolant reservoir. If that's what you need let me know i will re-shoot.
Thanks for the help on this. Its frustrating having it overheat in 10 minutes.

+1 on air in system. Do have one of those bleeder pieces that others have put on? I need to find one also.
Are you referring to the small valve they installed on the heater hose loop? No I actually don't have one of those but that's going to be my next purchase. Would this be an alternative to RM1SepEx solution?

Here is the video, let me know if i need to re-shoot so you can see what you need

http://youtu.be/PHficGf0_yU

C.Plavan

04-27-2014, 06:14 PM

Here is a good thread in case you didn't see it.

There were guys that added an additional connection towards the radiator. Like it was meant for burping the air out. I cant seem to find who had a picture, but it connected to the radiator hose. I'll keep looking. Or if someone is reading this, post away. :)

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?13682-Help-with-engine-cooling-burping&highlight=burping

RM1SepEx

04-27-2014, 06:44 PM

Brando

04-27-2014, 07:28 PM

In the thread Chad ref above see the brass fitting shown in post #8 It is tapped directly into the upper radiator hose connection of the motor. Fluid used to go up from there to the radiator, now it goes down again, then up, making it difficult to burp.

It goes to the extra fitting on the turbo expansion tank. It used to go to the nipple that we had to block off on the radiator. You can see how air can get trapped without that extra loop

I ran a long hose from that extra fitting all the way up front to the nipple you had blocked. So from i'm understanding i delete that hose, plug the nipple on the radiator, tap a nipple into upper radiator hose and run it to the location of the hose i just removed on the expansion tank.

The fix is that easy? I'm off to ace. Thanks guys