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Rodster
08-28-2013, 12:03 AM
Did some searching and not a lot of references to the currently-supplied polished stainless steel can supplied with the Complete Kit Coupe. As we know in this section of the Forum, the Coupe and the Roadster are similar - but different - and this location is different from the Roadster.
Before I drill some holes -- Does it go here:
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Or here:
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Or does it matter??
Or maybe at the peak of the driver footbox - just over the big wiring harness hole?
Also - I didn't get any hose clamps for the hose going from the can to the master cylinders - does the hose just press onto the plastic barbed fitting and is it supposed to be leak proof?
Thanks for any help on this... Pictures would be appreciated.
Wayne
rj35pj
08-28-2013, 06:23 AM
Hmmm I got one plastic reservoir with my kit. I ended up using one reservoir for each master cylinder for safety reasons. With one reservoir if you break one brake line you with loose all four brakes with two reservoirs you least still have front or rear. The reservoirs don't have any pressure in them so even wire ties will work, I would use either ties or small hose clamps. As for location....I have seen them mounted where you show it or on the firewall, I mounted mine inside the foot box with an access panel cut into the top of the foot box. I hope this helps. :)
CHOTIS BILL
08-28-2013, 08:16 AM
That isn’t quite correct. If you only have one reservoir and one system were to fail such as the rear and all the brake fluid were to be drained out of the reservoir the front system still has its master cylinder full of fluid as well as the hose from the tank to the master cylinder. So in less the failing of one system somehow sucks all the brake fluid out of the other you will still have one working system. But two reservoirs looks much cooler than one and after all what is more important than looking cool? :cool:
Bill Lomenick
rj35pj
08-28-2013, 09:43 AM
That isn’t quite correct. If you only have one reservoir and one system were to fail such as the rear and all the brake fluid were to be drained out of the reservoir the front system still has its master cylinder full of fluid as well as the hose from the tank to the master cylinder. So in less the failing of one system somehow sucks all the brake fluid out of the other you will still have one working system. But two reservoirs looks much cooler than one and after all what is more important than looking cool? :cool:
Bill Lomenick
Sorry Bill I was thinking of my own system that does not have a dual reservoir master cylinder. I have two seperate master cyliders with just small reservoirs about the size Waynes. If I had only used one reservoir couldn't I have drained my system with one brake line broken?
That looks a lot like the "coolant" overflow tank unless I'm missing something
CHOTIS BILL
08-28-2013, 03:04 PM
It maybe because of my medications but I can’t think of any case where if you have one reservoir going to two master cylinders how any fluid would be sucked out of the master cylinder in the intact system. There would need to be a T somewhere in the hose connecting the reservoir to the master cylinders and the T would act as a vacuum brake and the good system should be intact to stop the car. However using only one reservoir would require more frequent filling due to brake pad ware.
Bill Lomenick
rj35pj
08-28-2013, 03:20 PM
It maybe because of my medications but I can’t think of any case where if you have one reservoir going to two master cylinders how any fluid would be sucked out of the master cylinder in the intact system. There would need to be a T somewhere in the hose connecting the reservoir to the master cylinders and the T would act as a vacuum brake and the good system should be intact to stop the car. However using only one reservoir would require more frequent filling due to brake pad ware.
Bill Lomenick
You have more experience than I do so I will go along with you. Thank you.
Rodster
08-28-2013, 11:35 PM
Interesting about the plastic can - I know that was once supplied with the black body Coupes.... Mine's the red body and the round tube chassis.
In any case - the system has one small can and comes with a T so it feeds 2 master cylinders. I have the Complete Kit, which comes with a Wilwood pedal box - which the instruction book does not show..... Fellow builder Chris has documented the pedal box very well, if you are looking for that info, go to his photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51103049@N00/collections/72157624552099415/
BTW - the small shiny can is for the brake system. A longer unit is for the coolant overflow can - looks really nice. That will be another head-scratching session - to find a place fr that. Most guys have mounted it vertically near the radiator....
When I get it figured out, I will post pictures.
-wayne
CHOTIS BILL
08-29-2013, 08:00 AM
To mount the overflow tank I used 2 T type hose clamps from McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-hose-clamps/=o9w8fb I put the clamps around the front X member which has round tubes on mine and clamped the tabs on the tank between the nut and hose clamp.
Bill Lomenick
CJBergquist
08-29-2013, 11:00 PM
Mine came with a plastic overflow tank that I replaced with the FFR SS tank...which I tossed because it was too small...replaced with a Canton tank...no more coolant issues.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8395/8681746519_010c7efb9a_b.jpg
Rodster
09-10-2013, 11:36 PM
Well - I did the plumbing over last weekend. I will use the supplied unit and will report back later if it turns out to be too small. But I kind of like the smallness of the can, and it is shiny. Thanks Chris for the Canton reference, I might buy one of those later. Here is what I ended up dong. I still need to tighten the fittings, fill with fluid, test for leaks and bleed. . . .
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More posted on my WordPress site:
http://wayneyoshida-kh6wz.com/2013/09/10/type-65-coupe-update-disc-brake-plumbing-2/