Wrap color, need to decide now.

[Kalstar]

I am planning to become a distributor of this UK wrap company as they have some very cool metallic, matte and textured colors. They have the best of any company I have found and I have gone to SEMA every year for the past 4 years.

I need to order $500.00 in product to get started with the company so I figured "818 gets its color chosen early" I am between these three colors..... Aluminum Red, Anodized Blue and Aztec Bronze. Which one do you like for the 818? Pics to follow in the next 3 posts.

[Kalstar]

Red Aluminum

[Samiam1017]

What's the name of the company. Can you link there website,so we can check them out. I planning a wrap was gonna use 3m but maybe I can help your buy in.

[Kalstar]

Anodized Blue

[Kalstar]

Aztek Bronze

[carbon fiber]

anodized blue.

[David Hodgkins]

The blue is almost a Guardsman, nice.

But I think a modern color would look good on the 818 so I'd go with the red.

:)

[Silvertop]

I like the blue. But of course, I'm predisposed to like blue.:)

[flynntuna]

For what its worth, in order of preference: red aluminum, anodized blue , then Aztec bronze. Each of these colors IMHO would look good on the 818 given the right interior to match.

[timmy318]

Anodized blue my friend :D!

[conmech]

Depending on the color of the interior.....

For uniqueness, Aztek Bronze

Blue and red are 2nd and 3rd


Is the wrap going to have a company name incorporated into it? The Aztek with black lettering (2-3" letters) might go good.

[rjh2pd]

I like the blue, but i am a subaru rally fan (WRB) so take mine with a grain of salt

[mobius]

Chrome!

[Kempo]

Jim, my vote goes with the blue.

[bwwooster]

Blue, with gold wheels. Oh, wait...

[jkrueger]

I like the red.

[Kalstar]

So blue has the slight lead. Really conflicted between those two colors. If I go with the blue I can use the stock seats as they are black and blue. But eBay aftermarket sets are cheap so there is not a big savings.

Thanx for the answers so far, keep them coming.

[Xusia]

Of those three, I kinda like the bronze. It's different and adds an air of high-tech sophistication.

[AMW1011]

I'd go with the red, but I'm biased as I love red.

[Mechie3]

I wouldn't trust an eBay seat, so I'd go blue. I like blue anyways.

[wallace18]

Blue looks good.

[NicksPapaw]

Although they all look good, they are a little too matte finished for my taste. I would prefer something that pops a little more. With that being said, the blue would be my choice.

[Presto51]

I am planning to become a distributor of this UK wrap company as they have some very cool metallic, matte and textured colors. They have the best of any company I have found and I have gone to SEMA every year for the past 4 years.

I need to order $500.00 in product to get started with the company so I figured "818 gets its color chosen early" I am between these three colors..... Aluminum Red, Anodized Blue and Aztec Bronze. Which one do you like for the 818? Pics to follow in the next 3 posts.

Hey Jim, my two cents worth: 1 Blue, 2 Bronze, 3 Red

[Turboguy]

I'm gonna go outside the box and say flat black, with aluminum accents:


http://cartocars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/The-porsche-carrera-gt-sports-cars-and-now-they-released-the-stunning.jpg

http://swipe.swipelife.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gembala-matt-car-main.jpg

[AMW1011]

Personally, I'm a sucker for that Satin black.

20092

Out of the three though, after looking at more pictures I'd have to go with the blue or the bronze. The Red Aluminum really ends up being kind of dull when you see pictures of it that arent altered. Heres a good one for the blue.
20093
Here is the red.
20094
In the other red pictures you can see some HDR and highlights as well as most of those cars being under show room lighting which isn't very accurate.

[longislandwrx]

I've seen the most of those blue cars, at least 2 live nearby, a Subaru and a BMW. I'd pick that red just because I've never seen it irl and I bet it looks better in person.

[JRach]

Arghh. I vote blue... which happens to be almost identical to the 'flat blue' wrap we'll be using on ours.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Another vote for the blue.

[Kalstar]

Another vote for the blue.

Thx guys, just ordered the blue for the main body, cyber gray for the accents.

Thanx for the replies.

[Scott J]

As a distributor, are you also going to be doing customer applications of the wrap?

[Kalstar]

As a distributor, are you also going to be doing customer applications of the wrap?

I have no intent at this point but Ill see how mine turns out. I also offered to do Chris as well as Joes 818 if they go that route. I wraped some things on the GTM and it was not that hard. Like I said if mine turns out good than I would be open to something. I would not be looking for cash to do it, maybe a trade of some parts or goodies in exchange for me wrapping the car.

[mspice]

Ignorant question: what are the advantages/disadvantages for wrap vs painting?

[Xusia]

https://www.google.com/search?q=wrapping+vs+painting+cars&oq=wrapping+vs.+painting&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3j69i62.4968j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[mspice]

Xusia, fair enough :-P At least you didn't link me with:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wrapping+vs+painting+cars

[Kalstar]

Xusia, fair enough :-P At least you didn't link me with:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wrapping+vs+painting+cars

Comes down to price, ability to change your mind with out costing a fortune, easy to match if you damage a panel and much more DIY friendly.

[Xusia]

LOL - I actually wasn't trying to be a smart @$$ (hey, there's a first time for everything!). It has been discussed enough, and the search function on the site doesn't work too well, so I thought I'd help you out. :)

I plan to wrap parts of my car & the dash. For me it comes down to not having the equipment & skill to paint, whereas I think I can do a decent job on the wrap. I considered Plasti-dip as well, but I think wrapping will work better for me.

[Mavwreck75]

That ain't blue it's bleu. Very sophisticated.

[ursa5000]

Can you wrap the 818 with two different colors? Use blue as the primary color, bronze as the bold stripe or just a pin, and show some white gel coat too .... Just my .02, the red is my least favorite of the three choices.

Da Bear

[metalmaker12]

Kalstar, does a nice job wrapping parts, i might take him up on a wrap, or at least some killer vinyl add ons

[metalmaker12]

Kalstar, does a nice job wrapping parts, i might take him up on a wrap, or at least some killer vinyl add ons

Blue

[Ironhydroxide]

[Rant]

am I the ONLY person that dislikes "satin" or "flat" paint/wrap/finish jobs?

i'll agree they can look good. BUT MAN have you ever tried to keep something like that clean? it's SOOOOOO difficult. and that's all I see when i look at satin or flat cars. that they are either NEVER driven as they should be. or have taken a WEEK to clean from an hour on the track/road.


/Rant


so, i guess what i'm saying is, if you are a distributor, can you get some regular GLOSS stuff? easy to clean, etc.

[Xusia]

Nope. You are definitely NOT the only one! :D

[AZPete]

I'm with you on not liking the flat finish. Is there wrap with a gloss finish?

[Kalstar]

I'm with you on not liking the flat finish. Is there wrap with a gloss finish?

Yes there are gloss, metallic flake, even pearlescent and candy coats. They also have brushed metal look (5 textures) as well as carbon fiber (in three different colors).

The metallic (even close up) looks just like paint. This company sells 22 shades of Metallic, 5 pearls and 10 candy colors. Dealer price ranges from about $380-$550 depending on which vinyl. The matte and metallic are the least expensive, pearl in the middle and candy at the top. Comes is rolls 5'x 66'. Half rolls are 5x30 and are $210-$320. This is straight dealer cost. I am not upcharging, I wanted a distributorship just so I could order my stuff, all their current resellers are in UK.

Truthfully I too am not 100% in the matte corner. I figured it was just a way to stand out and be a little different. If I do not like it, I will pull it off and go a different color. Lambo has been doing the matte from the factory for years, we will see how it looks.

[NicksPapaw]

Whew............ I thought that I was the only one not liking the flat colors. I just tried to be nicer in my comments to Kalstar. But, the reality of it is that it is his car, not mine. If he wants to wrap in in Goofy Grape with Yellow Stripes, more power to him. No offense Kal, I see cars all the time that I think look kinda funky. But, the owner thinks it is the bomb. So, wrap away. And like you said, if you don't like it, you can just pull it off and go another color. Oh, one other thing, you have an 818 and I don't. So what good is my comment other than to increase my post count. ;)

[Kalstar]

Whew............ I thought that I was the only one not liking the flat colors. I just tried to be nicer in my comments to Kalstar. But, the reality of it is that it is his car, not mine. If he wants to wrap in in Goofy Grape with Yellow Stripes, more power to him. No offense Kal, I see cars all the time that I think look kinda funky. But, the owner thinks it is the bomb. So, wrap away. And like you said, if you don't like it, you can just pull it off and go another color. Oh, one other thing, you have an 818 and I don't. So what good is my comment other than to increase my post count. ;)


What good is life without a little smile. Crap day today so your post made me chuckle.

BTW no offence taken, but if you want to pick on someone wait untill you get a load of Metalmakers "Mary Kay pink" 818.

[metalmaker12]

Lol, miss Mary Kay to you sir, what up man, I am going through the FFR experience!!

[Turboguy]

i'll agree they can look good. BUT MAN have you ever tried to keep something like that clean? it's SOOOOOO difficult.


I'm curious if this comment is based on experience or if you're just thinking out loud? I ask because I've seen a few matte-finished cars driving around town and they always look perfect to me.


Thinking about going with a matte wrap on one of my projects, hence my curiosity.

[Frank818]

Anodized Blue and Flat Black
Hands down.

[RelfF2]

How do you keep flat vinyl looking new and clean? I'm not sold on the stuff and still planning on going with WRB paint, but flat black is running a close 2nd.

[Kalstar]

It is easy to keep matte and satin vinyl looking great. It does not act like paint where it will flash, hard to match and a problem if cleaners/wax gets on the surface. Vinyl can be clean with rubbing alcohol (it is that stable). In more ways then one vinyl is superior to paint. Keep in mind the average quality paint job will start at 3K and go up from there, for a DIY, a wrap can be done for a ittle as $400.00 and look just as good as paint. The bread and butter of a paint job and how well it comes out is in the body/prep work, in ths case the 818 panels are near perfect. Seems the 818 is a perfect subject for vinyl wrap.

[flynntuna]

Would you wrap the panels separately then assemble, or assemble the body panels then wrap the car with the panels in place?

[Samiam1017]

Would you wrap the panels separately then assemble, or assemble the body panels then wrap the car with the panels in place?

How do the panels mount. A combination or rivets and screws?

[Kalstar]

Would you wrap the panels separately then assemble, or assemble the body panels then wrap the car with the panels in place?

I would wrap the panels off the car then install. The good shops will remove what they can (like bumpers and doors) wrap and then reinstall. The 818 is unlike a production car where as the whole body can be removed, so for a skilled shop or with some practice the 818 "should" be a walk in the park. Other then the rear quarters/rockers, the panels are all pretty small with no complex curves (though the front bumper might be a challange) but even that looks much easier then many production bumpers that I have seen wrapped.

Another thing, 3 quarts of paint and 3 quarts of clear will weigh more then double what the installed vinyl will.

[THE ITALIAN]

[QUOTE=Ironhydroxide;110760][Rant]

am I the ONLY person that dislikes "satin" or "flat" paint/wrap/finish jobs?

Count me in on this one. Another bad fad. Off center hats, strange finger gestures, butt crack showing, you know, a fad. I could see some nice graphics.
It looks good on a Rat rod, the unfinished look, but that is usually real primer. My neighbor has a $125k mercedes that is flat black wrap, I said why did you do it? He said to protect the paint. I thought that was the perfect, no sense answer.
He also wears his hat sideways, has strange finger gestures and acts like his is in his 20's, Oh and has one of those pencil beards !! Again , a fad or maybe I'm just too old "to get with the program" My first wife was Flat, I'm done with that.

[carbon fiber]

I like the satin look myself. I also like black wheels. different strokes for different folks.

[Turboguy]

My first wife was Flat, I'm done with that.


Best.......Quote........EVER !!!!!!!

[RelfF2]

[QUOTE=Ironhydroxide;110760][Rant]

am I the ONLY person that dislikes "satin" or "flat" paint/wrap/finish jobs?

Count me in on this one. Another bad fad. Off center hats, strange finger gestures, butt crack showing, you know, a fad. I could see some nice graphics.
It looks good on a Rat rod, the unfinished look, but that is usually real primer. My neighbor has a $125k mercedes that is flat black wrap, I said why did you do it? He said to protect the paint. I thought that was the perfect, no sense answer.
He also wears his hat sideways, has strange finger gestures and acts like his is in his 20's, Oh and has one of those pencil beards !! Again , a fad or maybe I'm just too old "to get with the program" My first wife was Flat, I'm done with that.

I get that, and you're right that rat rods are the classic example of where a flat finish works, but personally I think the element that is required to make it work is that the car be "purposeful", i.e. racy, aggressive, etc., or bare bones, stripped down, etc. So, muscle cars, hot rods, imports that appear track worthy all qualify to me (not to mention the 818!)

The problem, just like any trend (which it surely is at this point) is that it gets abused and becomes over-done. So, yeah, as much as I like a flat black paint scheme, these luxury cars sporting it look just as silly to me as a grown man with a cocked hat and a pencil beard. haha. Then again, that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to to have their own and to build their car however makes them happy.

Back on topic, I'm getting more intrigued by the idea of going the vinyl route, specifically because of the cost and weight savings. I'm going to have to see a few wrapped cars in person though to get a better idea of the look and feel. I assume that a good 'paint-like' wrap job doesn't feel like the side of the radio station van parked outside the bar, lol.

[wleehendrick]

[QUOTE=THE ITALIAN;111080]So, yeah, as much as I like a flat black paint scheme, these luxury cars sporting it look just as silly

Last night I was driving home next to a CLS AMG wrapped in flat black. It could have looked good if he had stopped there, but no, it had orange rims, with a 'roll call' of mods on the front fender (all in orange) with more orange decals on the rear window:confused:. At least it can all be peeled off someday.


I was thinking of a flat wrap for my 818, and may down the road, but the white with carbon fiber and black accents looks so damn good, and requires little additional effort, so that's my plan.

[Kalstar]

According to research done by 3M, using vinyl instead of paint on race vehicles can lower the weight of a car by as much as 30 pounds!

[Mechie3]

butt crack showing

So you've got a thing against plumbers?


bu one of those pencil beards !!

When I was in HS these were a fad among some of the cool, tough kids. They were often referred to as ***** beards. They typically went along with brightly colored gym shorts, a head band, and white K Swiss shoes.

There was an indycar this year wrapped in super bright metallic blue vinyl for qualifying. They took it off for the race because they found they were losing 2-3mph top end from the drag it created. Granted, drag at 225mph is a little different than at 65. :D

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Below is the wrap we put on our motorcycle at Le Mans last year. It came printed with the white star effect and was very glossy like an OEM car finish. The gloss was not show car. I am thinking of using a dark blue wrap to get the 818R theme. 2028220283

[THE ITALIAN]

[QUOTE=Mechie3;111135]So you've got a thing against plumbers?



When I was in HS these were a fad among some of the cool, tough kids. They were often referred to as ***** beards. They typically went along with brightly colored gym shorts, a head band, and white K Swiss shoes.

Yeah, Imagine what the animal kingdom thinks of us Homo Sapiens, always doing stupid stuff. Monkeys may throw poop, but we can sure shovel it !. I'm just screwing with the guys here on FF5 forum for fun to add some variety-that's what I do. The fact that there are so many different ideas of a "cool" build, will bring some great cars.
Of course mine will be the coolest, I'm just sitting back and soaking in the ideas sporting my bell bottoms and Pinky ring. ................... "I'd rather see wrap than listen to it"

[Kalstar]

[QUOTE=Mechie3;111135]So you've got a thing against plumbers?



When I was in HS these were a fad among some of the cool, tough kids. They were often referred to as ***** beards. They typically went along with brightly colored gym shorts, a head band, and white K Swiss shoes.

Yeah, Imagine what the animal kingdom thinks of us Homo Sapiens, always doing stupid stuff. Monkeys may throw poop, but we can sure shovel it !. I'm just screwing with the guys here on FF5 forum for fun to add some variety-that's what I do. The fact that there are so many different ideas of a "cool" build, will bring some great cars.
Of course mine will be the coolest, I'm just sitting back and soaking in the ideas sporting my bell bottoms and Pinky ring. ................... "I'd rather see wrap than listen to it"

Italian, I think if your going to wrap your car you should go with this. You can call it "my third wife".

[THE ITALIAN]

[QUOTE=THE ITALIAN;111184]

Italian, I think if your going to wrap your car you should go with this. You can call it "my third wife".
That is awesome ! I WOULD DO THAT IN A MINUTE ! REALLY I would. Are the 818 fenders big enough? They may end up looking like grandma's. No tan Lines, I like it... The back of the 818 is kinda flat, no help there. No 3rd wife though, girlfriend maybe
The vinyl on a track day would be great protection and your idea would keep the driver in front of me looking into his rear view, but with my luck it would be a female racer and only piss her off. GOOD ONE

[Frank818]

I am planning to become a distributor of this UK wrap company

I haven't seen the name or website link of "this" UK company, I have read the thread twice. Am I blind, or...?

[Kalstar]

Sorry for the delay Frank, The company is Ultra Premium Plus.

http://www.ultimatepremiumplus.com/

[Frank818]

No worries. :)

That looks promising! I wonder how easy it is to wrap the interior parts and how high the finish quality is. I'll try to see more pix of that, but if the finish quality is there, that is exactly what I want, cuz I was planning on wrapping most of the interior in suede (or anything else I'd like too) but didn't know yet exactly what to use. Here's a great option.

Of course the body can be wrapped too and I start to think it might be a great idea instead of keeping a gel color from FFR (other than white as I don't want it white).

:D

[Frank818]

I am a bit concerned about the expected lifetime of 3-5 years.
I wouldn't want to re-wrap my interior and body ever 5 years. :)

[Kalstar]

I am a bit concerned about the expected lifetime of 3-5 years.
I wouldn't want to re-wrap my interior and body ever 5 years. :)

They say that to cover their butt. Basically the are assuming AZ/FL/TX direct sun, with no garage. Even if it only last 5 years, that is more then I plan to keep any color. 8 hrs every 5 years is a good trade off.

[Frank818]

Ok I understand. Well in my case it may last forever then. lolll

There are really nice colors in there, enough to give me many ideas. I just miss the suede, but I can live with a different design. :)

[Goldwing]

I am interested in a few color samples. Let me know when you get started and then if they have any kind of sample pack to buy. 3"x5" or so would be great. The metallic blue looks nice, but blues are tough in that they can go from great to meh with just a subtle shift. I'd have to see it in hand first. I still haven't ruled out painting, but these look very promising.

[FFR-ADV]

Wow, the Gloss CF sure has promise for some 818 accents:

20861

http://www.ultimatepremiumplus.us/gallery/1916GL

Cheers!

[SkiRideDrive]

Wow, the Gloss CF sure has promise for some 818 accents:

20861

http://www.ultimatepremiumplus.us/gallery/1916GL

Cheers!

Perhaps for the humps behind the seats?

[Frank818]

Kalstar, any updates on this?
Did you manage to become a distributor?

[Kalstar]

Thx for asking, yes I have become a distributor. Great product. I will offer more info and such when I start to wrap the car (and I become a sponsor). So far, very impressed.

[oldguy668]

I might be interested in doing my '56 Tbird restomod. PM me if you think it's do-able.

[Frank818]

Kalstar, we know you're the best driver in the world, let's see if you are the best car wrap distributor in the world. :) Keep us posted.

[Junty]

Out of the three options - definitely blue.

[Junty]

What did you decide upon?

[Flamshackle]

I just purchased some artic camo for my current subaru race car. I'll upload a snap of it once it's done. It's the APA brand.

[Kalstar]

What did you decide upon?

I went full circle and ordered gloss black metallic for the main body, matte black for stripes and CF for accents. I have 3 long cardboard tubes filled with wrap sitting in my office. Now I just need to start putting the kit together.

[ddorrer]

Call me biased, but I would go with the German company, http://www.schwabenfolia-carwrapping.de/
One of their sources is http://www.cfc.de/shop

[ddorrer]

Call me biased, but I would go with the German company, http://www.schwabenfolia-carwrapping.de/
One of their sources is http://www.cfc.de/shop

or this source: http://www.carwrapdirect.com/

[Racebrewer]

OK Guys,

We'll need a video on how to wrap the 818...... No porn music please.

Kalstar, the True Blood Red looks gorgeous on the web site. Do they have samples?

Squeegee and tool suggestions would also be helpful.

Thanks,
John

[Xusia]

+1 on the squeegee and tools. I'll be needing those.

[Junty]

Nice - I'm waiting to see a few more before I decide - but I always like metallic silver, and for the 818 i'd like to highlight with CF accents! Need to wait a month or two for my kit however...