Replacement pads for FFR brakes

[Glory Bound]

I have the FFR 14685 spindle brake package that came with my kit with what I remember are Wagner pads. Went to my first track day yesterday and the brakes were limiting. I have not been pleased with stopping power from day one, even after they were "bedded" and got a little better. Any recommendations on pad upgrades that are OK for the street and much better for autocrossing and track days like maybe Hawk HP+? Please provide any part numbers or let me know what year and model Mustang I need to look for. Thanks in advance.

[Dave Smith]

Jim and Andy at FFR have a really great experience with pad testing as do customers in the Challenge Series. I've got the same stock pads in my Mk4 and Ive been seriously considering changing the stock pad to a better one. They're really good on the street but come up short in exactly your situation. I'll ask Andy in tech to get back to you, if someone else doesn't sooner.

[michael everson]

The 2 piston PBR Calipers came on the 99-04 GT and V6 models. I believe any aftermarket pad from those years will work. Hawk seems to be a favorite on these cars.
Mike

[Joe]

I just ordered some Hawk HPS pads and I'm currently waiting for them to arrive. I've read posts by quiet a few people saying they like the improvement.

[Bob Cowan]

The Hawk HP-S was not bad, but tended to fade when they got hot. The HP+ were quite a bit better. The did fade when they got hot, but not as quickly as the S. For autocross, I would think the + would work well, as they really dfon't get that hot. For open track, though, you'll get them hot pretty quick. And, the S+ will create more dust and noise than the S.

I ended up using Porterfield R4's on the track, and Hawk S on the street. Now I have Wilwoods, and use differant pads for street and track.

The problem with any multi-purpose pad is heat. Street driving doesn't create much heat at all, so you need a pad that works well when cold. On the track they can get really hot, but not as hot as a heavier sedan would. So you need a pad that works well at both leveles - tough to do.

You definatly need brake cooling ducts for the road course. These will make a significant improvement in your braking lap after lap. Not real expensive, and easy to do.

[Glory Bound]

I have not heard back from FFR yet. With the calipers I have what kind of car do I search for replacement pads for?

[Dave Smith]

I just realized that you posted this in the roadster forum... Ive been telling the Tech guys to keep an eye on the tech section, perhaps thats why it missed the pick-up. Good advice here and Jim and Andy at FFR tech have great experience with pads also. I'll ask them to reply asap in the am.

Dave

[Andy@FFR]

The pads we have found to be the best for street/open track performance are the Carbotech XP8. These pads will give you much better braking performance without sacrificing street drive-ability. The part number for your calipers should be CT804, and if you have our rear brakes as well the part number for those is CT627. If you want a pad strictly for track use look for the XP10.

[Glory Bound]

No worries Dave! Thanks for referring it to ANdy.

Thanks Andy-just ordered a set for the front. I appreciate the information!

[Wayne Presley]

Hwak HP + or Porterfield R4S compound pads, much better braking performance. The extra dusting is a trivial price to pay for substantially better braking.

I sell the Hawk pads.

[Glory Bound]

XP8 pads are awesome now that I finally got all the air out of the master cylinder!

[jlfernan]

I have a MK complete kit. It came with the front and rear brakes. What year and model do I ask for when ordering pads or parts? Thanks.

[Wayne Presley]

hb274n.610 front
hb183n.585 rear
Hawk HP+ pads $230 for front/rear set