818R #001 Build Thread

[bstuke]

I finally hit a major milestone, engine removal!
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I had been tinkering with the car, removing this and that to get to the point that I can pull the engine and tranny.

Now to clean up and get the engine and tranny clean and broken apart.

Note to self:
140 140 142 145PSI compression test.

[bstuke]

Some of the items I have purchased so far:

2 row aluminum radiator and fan assembly
Powerstop slotted rotors
Hawk HP Plus pads
Centric SS Brake Lines
ARP Wheel Studs
Enkei Kojin 17X8 +45 Front
Enkei Kojin 18X9.5 +45 Rear

[bstuke]

Reserved......

[bstuke]

Reserved........

[Wayne Presley]

What's the hold up? You've had the donor for a couple of weeks....Where's the pics of all the parts refinished and staged ready to go on the new chassis?

[bstuke]

Are you kidding me? I have had it since April!

Motor is out, can't find my compression test kit...
Rack out and cleaned. Need to depower it.
Front Brakes/Spindles/Hubs out and cleaned up
Steering/Pedal Box out
Gas Tank stuff out.

Working on the rear stuff now, but it is getting hot!

[bstuke]

See look, progress! :cool:
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[bstuke]

OK, I feel I am 99% done with the donor.

Engine Compartment:
Engine
Tranamission
Radiator
Brake master
Clutch master
Clutch slave
Rack
Lower suspension
Spindles
CV axle(Someone please tell me how to get that apart!)
Brakes

Passenger compartment:
E brake
Steering
Pedal box
Accelerator pedal

Rear:
Gas tank innards
Rear wheel assembly with brakes and e cables
Trailing arm and links

Have I missed anything? I am debating if I am going to pull the harness. I guess I should as I can reuse some of the connectors.

[Wayne Presley]

You will need quite a few connectors so you might as well grab the harness out.

[bstuke]

You will need quite a few connectors so you might as well grab the harness out.OK, gonna have to wait till tomorrow...

[bstuke]

The days of UPS delivering toys ARE BACK!!!!
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[Xusia]

Those look nice. Which ones are they (brand & size)?

[bstuke]

18X9 9.5 rears..

[Wayne Presley]

Bob, you do know I'm an Enkei dealer right?

[Samiam1017]

18X9 9.5 rears..

What ET did you get the 40 or the 45. I'm looking at the same wheels. What and where did you them?

[bstuke]

I actually used a local wheel guy. He took a new set of FR500's in trade I had that wasn't selling. The 18X9.5 only comes in 40 offset. The 17X8 comes in 40 and 45. I am going to use ARP studs and spacers.

Give Wayne a call. He can give you more detail.

[Sergio]

great progress so far !!

[bstuke]

great progress so far !!Thanks Sergio! good to hear from you over here. When do they deliver an 818 kit to your house?

[bstuke]

Just a little update...
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[C.Plavan]

Very nice. Check out that frame. Big differences. My 818R just was "Hot listed" for Aug 17th. I'm so excited as I am sure you are. When does your chassis get "Home"?

[bstuke]

Very nice. Check out that frame. Big differences. My 818R just was "Hot listed" for Aug 17th. I'm so excited as I am sure you are. When does your chassis get "Home"?Thanks Chad, hopefully next week. These pictures were taken on July 27th before the frame went out for powder coating.

[Mechie3]

Sweetness. There is quite a bit more tubing in the side/front dash area.

[C.Plavan]

Yea- looks like a lot of square tubing replaced with round. Looks beefy which any racer will like.

[bstuke]

You young men have better eyes than I...

[Wayne Presley]

The roll bar is wider and there is a front hoop. Congrats Bob!

[mrvwcastner]

Are you building to a race class ie: is it an Emod solo? NASA? Etc..?

[bstuke]

The roll bar is wider and there is a front hoop. Congrats Bob!
Thanks Wayne!


Are you building to a race class ie: is it an Emod solo? NASA? Etc..?
I won't be going before the SCCA SEB for quite a while, so AMod is what it will run in. From a track perspective it will be TT only, and whatever class is already established. I suspect STU and TTU.

[apexanimal]

Can anyone, preferably with pics, describe the frame differences between the r and the s?

[bstuke]

Can anyone, preferably with pics, describe the frame differences between the r and the s?No. Maybe next week..

[NicksPapaw]

So, the bar across the passenger compartment is gone? What a game changer! I bet you can't wait for it to arrive.

[longislandwrx]

Can't wait for number 2. Mailed out my final payment today. I like the all the extra structure in the frame. Very cool.

[Mechie3]

Yea- looks like a lot of square tubing replaced with round. Looks beefy which any racer will like.

I don't think it was replaced as much as added.


Can anyone, preferably with pics, describe the frame differences between the r and the s?

Front: there's a round bar roll hoop over the top of the dash.
Side: Where the S has a big V shape to step over and get in, there is a roudn tube going up vertically from the floor to the upper most side round bar and then a ladder of round tubes in between to support it.

[apexanimal]

^noted

looking forward to pics and more details!

[Mitch Wright]

Bob,
Congratulations, looking forward to following your build. Tear down begins next week on my donor and the shelves are filling up with hot rod parts for my R.
FFR had talked about the 818R being able to except a Wilwood pedal box in addition to the OE pedal box, is that an option on your car?

[bstuke]

Bob,
Congratulations, looking forward to following your build. Tear down begins next week on my donor and the shelves are filling up with hot rod parts for my R.
FFR had talked about the 818R being able to except a Wilwood pedal box in addition to the OE pedal box, is that an option on your car?Thanks Mitch, I hope so, but I really don't know. I did ask for that ability...

[C.Plavan]

Bob,
I got another email from Dan today. My production got pushed back to Oct 5th. :( So figure out all the issues before hand. Haha.

[longislandwrx]

Bob,
I got another email from Dan today. My production got pushed back to Oct 5th. :( So figure out all the issues before hand. Haha.

Yeah had a nice long chat with Jason this morningh e told me 2 extra weeks, date set at August 31st. They said that the shop car and Bobs were really one offs and mine will be the first true production R. Yours is most likely number 2. I'm perfectly cool with the wait, I'd rather have the control arm issue worked out and any more kinks that may present themselves. More of my parts will be ready as well.

[bstuke]

They said that the shop car and Bobs were really one offs and mine will be the first true production R.Wait, WHAT????

[longislandwrx]

HA not to worry, Not one of a kind or anything!

Meaning they bent and cut the additional tubes in house for everything. The next ones will use prebent/precut pieces method that FFR uses on all their other cars.

[bstuke]

:cool:

[C.Plavan]

Alright Bob..... you are too quite. Did it show up?

[bstuke]

Hey Chad,

SATURDAY!!!!!

[C.Plavan]

Hey Chad,

SATURDAY!!!!!

Jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bstuke]

I wonder what else is on the truck, two stops in South Carolina alone.

[GUNS]

I have a feeling one of those stops in SC is my new rear bumper.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Bob
I hope I'm not ruining your Christmas, I took a picture of your 818 today.
Bob G
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[bstuke]

Everybody gets to see it but me!!!!

Thanks Bob, hope you are doing well..

[bstuke]

Heard from Eric in PA, the truck is headed south!

[C.Plavan]

Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc.....

[bstuke]

Yep. Bad weather and traffic have most likely postponed it until Sunday morning...

[C.Plavan]

Bahhh! Murphy's Law I tell you.

Did you download the manual? There is alot of stuff in there we do not have to worry about. I just kept flipping through it saying "Skip", "E brake- skip".

[bstuke]

I am going to have an ebrake since it is a simple and separate system on the WRX vs Ford.

[bstuke]

Today is 8/18...

[Mitch Wright]

Must mean great things to come...

[Wayne Presley]

pics yet?

[bstuke]

Oh boy. Big thanks to Tim C and Joe Camire for coming by to help. There is only one more 818, and it is going to the gentleman in La. There is also a Coupe, Roadster and two 33's.

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[C.Plavan]

That's just a tease! ;)

[NicksPapaw]

Come on Bob, you have had that car for at least 6 hours. The huddled masses need more detailed pics. We are starving out here. :)

[bstuke]

A few shots showing some of the 818R additions. No door hinge mounts. Basically the door will be somewhat permanently attached to the body panel in similar fashion to the Challenge car, but hidden.
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[NicksPapaw]

SWEET !!!! Looks like the bar through the passenger side seating area is now gone. Are you going to run the fuel cell there or use the standard tank?

[C.Plavan]

Looking good. I'm so jealous.

I like the harness bars they added. However, I'm not sure my Racetech Halo seat will fit with the side bar. The bar looks like it may hit the Halo part of the seat.
Does it have the mounts on the frame for a windshield? Just in case we wanted to add the "coupe" stuff later :P ?

[longislandwrx]

Nice!....bread machine. 2 speeds?


jk have fun with the build.

[Movieman]

Oh boy. Big thanks to Tim C and Joe Camire for coming by to help. There is only one more 818, and it is going to the gentleman in La. There is also a Coupe, Roadster and two 33's.

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That second picture brought a smile to my face..The little boy following carrying the package.

[68GT500MAN]

I agree, the second photo is the greatest. Looks like he wants to help.
Doug

[bstuke]

Been busy with work, but got some of the front suspension done:

Fabricated shims from flat aluminum for the inside rear LCA mount.
Need to figure out the best way to enlarge the outside rear LCA mount.
Threw the upper ball joints in the freezer.
Drilled and mounted the shock mounts on my steel LCA's. You really need a drill press to do this as there is a lot of potential for the bit to walk when you are drilling the outer hole. There is two layers of steel, so I clamped the LCA in the press really good before I drilled.
Installed the really cold upper ball joints. I already own a socket because it is the same ball joint as the Roadster etc. But you really need it and impact to get them in good. I highly recommend borrowing a "kit" from the local parts store. Pay a refundable deposit, do it right, and take the kit back. If you are doing track height, you need 4 qty. 1/2 20 3", and 44 1/2 washers to use as shims, 11 in each spot where the dogbone normally goes.
Installed the lower ball joints.
Went to paint the UCA brackets and all my POR15 has dried up! That stuff is perfect for brackets like this. Gotta order some tomorrow.

Two Autocross points events this weekend, and lots of people tuning for Nationals, so I will be busy all weekend. The following week SoFl for diving and macro work, so I am out of here!

[longislandwrx]

Can you take a picture of your washer and bolt combo? Any reason why you chose not to use a one piece spacer?

[bstuke]

Can you take a picture of your washer and bolt combo? Any reason why you chose not to use a one piece spacer?Haven't picked up the bolts yet. No reason on the washers -vs- one piece spacer. Washers are easier, and when you sand off the edge, 11 fit perfectly. I'll post some pictures in a little while.

[C.Plavan]

Any updates Bob? I have been buying parts like crazy, similar to my Fiancé with shoes!

[Mechie3]

I just saw the additiom of the harness bars. I was hoping they used the square bar as thats all we have to use on the S. ill have to see where my seat openings line up.

[RM1SepEx]

Does the "R" use the Subaru rear sway bar in the front too?

[C.Plavan]

Paging Bob- Paging Bob..... lol any updates? You are killing us.

[nkw8181]

I second C.Plavan

Nolan

[bstuke]

Sorry I have not been around. Our FY ends 10/31, so I am busy trying to close 200% of my quota so I can just pay someone to build this thing!

I did get the front mocked up. Baer bumpsteer, 325lb spring(Still waiting on the 350lb from FFR). Hopefully I will get the rear on the ground and off to the race shop for Wilwood pedal box fitting and welding. I'm not messing with the stock MC, it does not make sense.

I also need to figure out the passenger side rack mount. I only got the mount for the old rack, not the 05-06.
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[RM1SepEx]

1st R, KONI yellow shocks????

[bstuke]

Is that a bad thing?
1st R, KONI yellow shocks????

[RM1SepEx]

who knows, check out the KONI shock thread

we were told Reds with R's Yellows with S's but many got the opposite... I had a pair of each! :-)

Different construction mono tube gas filled vs dual tube

yellows are rebuildable, reds are not

reds react faster due to single tube, dual piston design

I chose to go with yellows for my S

I assume they are valved the same based on the development work done by Factory Five

If I were doing an R I'd ask about the optional race shocks. I was quoted $1700 upgrade for my S. Double externally adjustable

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[longislandwrx]

why the bump steer kit? were your tierod ends already damaged?

I would assume the steering rack is mounted at the proper height already and no bump steer correction is needed.

[Xusia]

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That is a damn sexy *** shock right there!

[Erik W. Treves]

I am a little confused. Why is the lower control arm in the street position and the shock in the R position? And all the washers under the a- arm..? Is that what we are seeing?

[bstuke]

I am a little confused. Why is the lower control arm in the street position and the shock in the R position? And all the washers under the a- arm..? Is that what we are seeing?Still mocking up. And yes the washers keep the plates from pinching.


why the bump steer kit? were your tierod ends already damaged?

I would assume the steering rack is mounted at the proper height already and no bump steer correction is needed.
Not at track height..
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[icky]

5 x 114 knuckles with brembos?

[apexanimal]

Which bump steer kit did you get?

[longislandwrx]

Gotcha on the bump steer kit. I'll see if I need it before dropping another $175

So no spacers were provided between the brackets for the a arms to be mounted at track height? Or were they just backordered?


Which bump steer kit did you get?


That's the Baer bump steer kit, for Subaru. Summit sells it.

[fateo66]

I was already thinking of getting a bumpsteer kit. Just our of curiosity how did you determine that the kit was needed? Do you have a gauge kit or some calculation?

[FFRSpec72]

A few shots showing some of the 818R additions. No door hinge mounts. Basically the door will be somewhat permanently attached to the body panel in similar fashion to the Challenge car, but hidden

You are not adding any additional side or floor steel?

[C.Plavan]

Hey Bob-

How are things going? LongIsland and I could use some company building the R.

[bstuke]

You are not adding any additional side or floor steel?Yes, you have to.


Hey Bob-

How are things going? LongIsland and I could use some company building the R.Sorry, at 300% Quota, trying to get to 400%. Been really busy. I did grind out the passenger side rack mount to fit the 06 rack, and need to get it spaced properly. Then I will get the passenger suspension and sway bar finished. Then to the back... What oh what will I find...

[bstuke]

Made some important decisions today. Details to come....

[C.Plavan]

You are such a tease! :P

[bstuke]

Sorry about that Chad. It is good for my current insanity...

[bstuke]

So here is the story:

I am overwhelmed. Plain and simple. I am dealing with so many things right now, the car just sits. Until last night.

After a long conversation with friend and most awesome car builder Wayne Presley, and am in the process of delivering my frame and parts to Wayne so he can get #001 to go kart stage for me.

She is loaded up and ready for the trip.

Thanks Wayne.

[Frank818]

You can't go wrong with that, bstuke!

[C.Plavan]

Well, you know it will be all perfect!

Plus us other 818R builders will benefit also seeing what Wayne "The Magician" comes up with. :)

[Martin]

You can't go wrong with that, bstuke!

From what I've seen so far, I couldn't agree more.

Martin

[bstuke]

Thanks guys,

I apologize for not being around, but now that it is off my plate I can focus on other things.

Wayne is truly a great person, and a great person to work with. I highly recommend him for any work you need done, and not just 818 or Factory Five.

[bstuke]

Progress!

After significant ECU work, Wayne has a really good tune on the motor now. Don't ask, it is top secret and proprietary. There was also a busted clockspring on one of the TGV's, and that gave him some fits. There is still work to be done, but I see light at the end of the tunnel.
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[Mechie3]

Why not just delete the TGV's?

[bstuke]

Don't disagree, but wanted them working to start. Trying t get it on the road and running before doing any more mods.

[bstuke]

It's alive I tell you, ALIVE! And back home for a few days then off to DIYAutoTune for more ECU work from the MegaSquirt guru..

http://youtu.be/tGcl-tkode8
Might even make the next AutoCross event.

[Rasmus]

Good to see it running!

[CanadianYank]

Hello, so your running on a megasquirt? If so great, that's what I'm planning to do as well. I have an MS3 ready to go!

Frank

[bstuke]

Yes, highly recommend using Very Cool Parts for MS3P tuning on the EJ.

[bstuke]

A few shots I took at the DIY Autotune Megasquirt Megameet. Working in conjunction with the lead programmers for Megasquirt, Wayne now has a solid Megasquirt 3 Pro solution for the Subaru Boxter NA/Turbo 818. It is amazing how simple it is and how well it works! Can't wait to get it back on the dyno and touched up.
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[CanadianYank]

Yes, highly recommend using Very Cool Parts for MS3P tuning on the EJ.

Thanks, I gave him a call today to complete my MS set up! How is yours running?

Frank

[Santiago]

245's on the front! Yes! :D

What size tires do you have hanging out in the back? Are flared fenders in your future?

Best,
-j

[Rasmus]

Better rock 275's in the rear then. Or 285's if you could. :D I wonder if you could even get enough heat in 285's to get them to stick with 818's weight.

[C.Plavan]

245's on the front! Yes! :D

What size tires do you have hanging out in the back? Are flared fenders in your future?

Best,
-j

I'm having issues with 235/'s up front. So 245's are going to be an issue too with the body on and turning.

[bstuke]

I'm having issues with 235/'s up front. So 245's are going to be an issue too with the body on and turning.Don't need no stinkin body!

http://atlantascca.com/Files/results/Solo/2014/p10-raw.htm

Great day Saturday, ended up in the 20's with VVT unplugged and more tuning needed. Video to follow.

[Frank818]

93 Honda Civic CX before you? Must have 4 turbos in that car.

[bstuke]

Very very bumpy course. I should have 300lb on the back and 250lb on the front!


http://youtu.be/kyc2qxEjA98?list=UUE9QAeUaPgLyDlo5iNxi1OA

[bstuke]

In true rotten luck fashion, 818R 001 broke the dyno at MegaSquirt! OK maybe the dyno simply broke down.... So I won't get it back for a few more weeks, but then it is on to a laundry list of items to get taken care of.

In other new I heard that the 818R(Red) with a 400HP motor in it broke on Friday at VIR. Apparently an oil leak caused a small fire, and caused the waste gate to stop working, which caused a 45PSI blowout of the engine. Damn..

[metalmaker12]

In true rotten luck fashion, 818R 001 broke the dyno at MegaSquirt! OK maybe the dyno simply broke down.... So I won't get it back for a few more weeks, but then it is on to a laundry list of items to get taken care of.

In other new I heard that the 818R(Red) with a 400HP motor in it broke on Friday at VIR. Apparently an oil leak caused a small, and caused the waste gate to stop working, which caused a 45PSI blowout of the engine. Damn..


FFR is not having luck with the 818R, and that is an expensive engine. The ecu should have a fuel cut and boost cut programmed in for these occurances. You can have a wastgate stop working, but fuel/ boost cut will save it and you can fix issue and keep racing. I am disappointed for them.

[bstuke]

I hate it for John and Jim. Not sure how Jim did in the Blue 818R. John at least go some seat time in a challenge car for the enduro.

[bstuke]

Figured most of you have seen an engine dynod so I focused on the monitor. Ended up at 230HP and 290FTLB

http://youtu.be/r9GOqj-WDmk

[Scargo]

That's good HP/TQ numbers. I'm hoping for 270/360 with my DVACS destroker motor. I really like that clean wiring harness! Looks like race car...

[bstuke]

I am very pleased with the stock motor and the work Wayne at Very Cool Parts and Russ at DIY Autotune did. The Megasquirt 3 Pro and Wayne's harness is the perfect solution for starting and growing the build..

[bstuke]

I was actually taking pictures of the trailer for a guy who is going to buy it, but I thought I would post these as there are some shots of the car. Off to SCR Autocross Saturday at Michelin proving ground in South Carolina, then Dixie National Solo Tour event, them hopefully TT at TGPR.
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[Mitch Wright]

Bob,

What does your car weigh in at? Cars is looking good.
Not bad HP numbers for a stock engine.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Hi Bob,
While your answering questions,
What size wheel and tires did you end up with. Are you good with the fit, or are fender flairs in your future?
Thanks
Bob

[bstuke]

Hi Bob,
While your answering questions,
What size wheel and tires did you end up with. Are you good with the fit, or are fender flairs in your future?
Thanks
BobHey Bob, front is Enkei Kojin 17X8 +45 and the back is 18X9.5 +45 with two spacers.

I had to raise the front ride height about 1/4 inch to keep the tire from rubbing the top on turns. The back inside of each front wheel rubs as well. But who turns that hard?

We will see on the back this weekend.

[bstuke]

Bob,

What does your car weigh in at? Cars is looking good.
Not bad HP numbers for a stock engine.

I have no idea what it weighs. I will know next weekend at Solo National Tour.

Pretty sure MS3Pro with C16 gas is helping quite a bit on the HP. It runs flawlessly thanks to all the combined hard work at Very Cool Parts and DIYAutotune. I highly recommend the MS3Pro ECU from VCP.

[Mitch Wright]

Have fun next week.

[bstuke]

We were having a lot of fun Saturday at Michelin Proving Grounds in South Carolina until stuff broke...
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http://youtu.be/7nxtmUJyN3U

[bstuke]

PS. Do yourself a favor and get a metal puke tank. If the plastic one breaks very far from home good luck getting it fixed..

[metalmaker12]

What broke

[bstuke]

Word to the wise, lose the stock or sti mounts and get group n or the expensive aftermarket mounts. The motor moved so much it broke the coolant tank on the brace. Knock it clean off the mount and broke off the turbo return nipple.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Bob
Watch this video of my engine with the stock motor mounts. I have already changed mine.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12534-MRG-MotorSports-818S-Build&p=176370&viewfull=1#post176370

[bstuke]

Bob
Watch this video of my engine with the stock motor mounts. I have already changed mine.Pretty sure mine is moving at least that much. Ordered Beatrush, which is similar to Cusco..

[wleehendrick]

Bummer your fun was cut short. I see you relocated the tank a bit. I took a look and with Craigs bracket I dont see how it could interfere... You might consider one of those the move it further from the brace.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Bummer your fun was cut short. I see you relocated the tank a bit. I took a look and with Craigs bracket I dont see how it could interfere... You might consider one of those the move it further from the brace.
I mounted mine on top the bar.
Bob
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[bstuke]

I am going with cusco mounts. The engine moves around waaaaay to much anyway. Problem solved..

[Tamra]

Your video is awesome! We can't wait until we can get ours to the first autox at the end of this month.

[svanlare]

Looks like a great day until things broke. Group N mounts ordered.

[Rasmus]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39293&d=1425372488
Love the way you mounted the door. Nice.

[bstuke]

Sorry, I replied to your other post.. ;-)

[Rasmus]

Sorry, I replied to your other post.. ;-)

Read that. =)

So your door mounting solution is only temporary and you plan on moving the leading edge inboard more?

[bstuke]

Yes, around 1.5 inches.

[bstuke]

I am going with cusco mounts. The engine moves around waaaaay to much anyway. Problem solved..Ended up with Beatrush mounts, same is Cusco but more cost effective...

[Rasmus]

Yes, around 1.5 inches.

Hotness!

Post a pic went you get it done.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Hey Bob,
I like the sound of your car. What did you use for the exhaust?
Thanks
Bob

[Wayne Presley]

I built his exhaust, it is a bellmouth outlet in to a 3" muffler built in stainless steel

[Bob_n_Cincy]

I built his exhaust, it is a bellmouth outlet in to a 3" muffler built in stainless steel
Hi Wayne,
As soon as I get my rear radiator sorted out, I'll send you a sketch for a quote.
Bob

[Wayne Presley]

Hi Wayne,
As so as I get my rear radiator sorted out, I'll send you a sketch for a quote.
Bob
Sounds great

[bstuke]

Don't forget my commission! :p

This weekend was the first SCCA Pro Solo tour stop, and is called Dixie Nationals. Saturday it rained, but that helped keep the field somewhat tight. I had two clean runs, and them a BM car right front of me pukes oil on the wet track. I found out later what caused it and I only have one question: WHOINTHEHELLUSESPLASTICOILPRESSURELINEONARACECAR!! !!! Really? WTF? So please don't do that on your 818, use SS line or better yet an electronic sensor.

I was in a position to not finish DFL. Until there was a dry course on Sunday! I coned my first and second run and if they were clean I would have been respectable. I DNF'd my last run. So I was DFL.

My feedback:

The front end stuck like glue, even with no aero. I was amazed at the grip. Amazed. The back stuck like peanut butter. If you plan on doing ANY track or AutoX work, you MUST have an LSD. It is a pain in the butt to pay a Subaru mechanic to install it, but you will not be able to get power down without it. That said, I need another half degree of camber, and maybe a little more toe in on the back. I am also going to soften the shock, and maybe go with a softer spring for now. It was fun getting a little drift on, but not really what I want.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu1m1EZK14

[bstuke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMVzXz82324

[Tamra]

Looks like a handful! Are you running the stiffer springs in the rear? Any front sway? Which tires and what sizes?

[bstuke]

Looks like a handful! Are you running the stiffer springs in the rear? Any front sway? Which tires and what sizes?
Yes it was but happy with the results for the most part. We were really pushing it. I have to look and see what springs, but whatever comes with an 818R. I suspect the shocks are set full stiff, I never looked and that is how they come. Front sway bar is not hooked up. I couldn't get it to stay in one spot. Very little body roll anyway. Tires are A6 P245/40ZR-17 front and P285/30ZR-18 rear.

[Mitch Wright]

Being the first R not sure what springs your kit came with but it is easy enough to check, the rate is right on the spring. I have R #145 and it came with 300# Frt and 500# rears.

[bstuke]

Pretty sure you are correct Mitch. I am on Monday morning conference call hell and can't walk out to look. I might see if Pro Shocks will loan me #450 and #475 for this weekend.

[wleehendrick]

Front sway bar is not hooked up. I couldn't get it to stay in one spot. Very little body roll anyway.

Someone posted the McMaster Carr P/N of a collar to which secures the sway bar. It's not so much to reduce roll, as to balance the chassis; the bar in front will shift balance more to understeer. Since you were having rear grip issues, it sounds like you might want to try to hook it up.

[bstuke]

Someone posted the McMaster Carr P/N of a collar to which secures the sway bar. It's not so much to reduce roll, as to balance the chassis; the bar in front will shift balance more to understeer. Since you were having rear grip issues, it sounds like you might want to try to hook it up.Thanks, I will see if I can find that part.

[bstuke]

It was recommended that without the wing I go to a 400lb spring in the back which I did. I did get the collars for the sway bar so now it is back in and staying put.

We also added more rear camber and the combo worked much better. Still a ways to go as I really need LSD but it will have to wait.

I do have a line on a $100 working tranny that I can get rebuilt and install the LSD in it. I am still pondering it.

I am also really happy with the Beatrush mounts, highly recommended. I also have an ACT Prolite flywheel and 6 puck clutch that is working flawlessly.

We did break again but once again minor. There is a nipple on most aftermarket radiators in the upper passenger side corner. DO NOT put a push nipple and clamp on it! Do the right thing and have it welded shut permanently! You will thank me later..


http://youtu.be/stdtCfwk7Ng

[Scargo]

How do you feel the springs and shocks are working? Did it stay hooked-up? Video gave me the impression that the ride is pretty stiff. You have 400# in the back and what in the front?

[C.Plavan]

I have been worried about that radiator nipple/plug since day one. I'm wondering if looping a line from that nipple, to the overflow nipple will suffice. Or throwing some JB weld on it, then still use a plug with hose clamp. I'm guessing the rubber plug ripped or cracked?

[bstuke]

Pinhole. Didn't have a spare. Day done.

[C.Plavan]

Pinhole. Didn't have a spare. Day done.

Sorry to hear that. I just threw the spare caps in my "Crash Box" that I take to the track.

[Hindsight]

I just threw the spare caps in my "Crash Box" that I take to the track.

That right there is a major hidden cost to racing that I discovered when I was at Road Atlanta pit crewing for my wife's uncle who races Formula 500. The amount of tools and spare parts and other stuff that many racers bring to the track could cost many thousands of dollars alone!

[bstuke]

That right there is a major hidden cost to racing that I discovered when I was at Road Atlanta pit crewing for my wife's uncle who races Formula 500. The amount of tools and spare parts and other stuff that many racers bring to the track could cost many thousands of dollars alone!

Just don't ask Wayne about his weekend at Majors. I helped him swap out a shift cable on one of the Lotus, and the next race it promptly got punted into the dirt at T1, day over. I have no idea what happened to the neon Lotus, but it was already back on the trailer..

[D Clary]

40307Drilled tapped and plugged

[RM1SepEx]

I also tapped and plugged mine

[bstuke]

A few shots from this weekend and some video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMQCbGqMgd8
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[Tamra]

Nice!

[Canadian818]

Very nice! And what a sweet track!

[bstuke]

I participated in a Skidpad Challenge sponsored by Grassroots Motorsports and Traqmate. The event was at the 2015 The Mitty at Road Atlanta.

If you think that an 818 has questionable handling, think again. I still need a complete 4 wheel alignment after lots of changes, but still kicked everyone's butt by a half a G. With the lone exception of an 8 year old in a Quarter Midget. He was a ringer...

I beat 2 Exocets, one a turbo Miata, and the other an LS7, along with 20-30 other vehicles ranging from an NSX to a dune buggy specifically prepared for the skidpad(?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxJohaEva8

[Wayne Presley]

Congrats! I knew you were going to do well. Awesome 1.54G, was that based on time around the circle?

[bstuke]

Traqmate GPS data acquisition...

[Wayne Presley]

Did you win the Traqmate?

[bstuke]

Nope. Didn't even get a trophy or a gift certificate. They may have missed getting one for the modified class. Marjorie did give me a t shirt though.:cool: They are nice peeps...

[bstuke]

Mason walked off with the championship trophy, a GoPro AND a Traqmate! He is a really nice kid.

[bstuke]

Not too shabby..

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/traqmate-skidpad-challenge-results/

[Scargo]

More importantly, did you experience any oil pressure loss or puking of oil during that constant turning? I forget your setup in that regard.
Nice going.

[bstuke]

Killer B, worked fine. Boiled a little but need to burp the coolant system again.

[Scargo]

What I'm asking is that you be specific about what has been done to the motor to control oil surge and vent the motor. Info on your engine in the thread is hard for me to find. You have a drive by wire throttle-body so I'm assuming it is an older motor. Wayne built the motor, as I understand it. Has a KB oil pan. What else?
The reason I'm so curious is I just returned from Watkins Glen where a buddy was having a nightmare of a time keeping oil in his engine. Has KB oil pan.
We hooked up two Moroso catch cans and that wasn't enough for a session. Finally hooked it up to drain it back into the motor and vented the catch can.
How did you manage to not have any issues with those constant high G's?

[bstuke]

Lets see:

Stock ej255
tomei extreme pipe and up pipe
coolant delete and perrin oil cooler kit
MS3Pro
Killer B kit pan tray and pickup.
throttle is wired.

I have zero oiling issues. I did determine that it seems the tstat keeps oil in the cooler and lines and I overfilled the engine when I installed the Killer B. Once I figured that out everything was fine. I do need to get a real gauge on the motor but the switch is wired to the ecu and has not shut off.

[bstuke]

Do you have a blowby issue somewhere?

[Scargo]

Do you have a blowby issue somewhere?
I don't with my engine. I run the head breather hoses to a JEGS can and let it drain back into the engine. The other vents T together and tie into the top center case vent.
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My friend is the one with the car that may have serious blowby. It is well known that oil can fill a boxer engine head and case pressure (blowby) push it out through the head vents. I'm just surprised that you are not having issues at high G's and I still don't understand how your engine is vented.
According to Chris of Killer B, they have a new product, an oil control valve for racecars, (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2695465)specifically boxer engine cars, able sustain +1.5Gs consistently. It has been discussed at length on this NASIOC thread. (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2628337) The next step would be dry sump.

[bstuke]

I have to admit I am totally clueless to this issue! I would have to refer to Wayne. Can you post any pictures of the hoses and what vents they connect to and I will replicate the photos with my setup?

[bstuke]

Here are some shots of mine. I am going to assume stock.

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[Scargo]

Looks bone stock to me but, I am not an early (GD) Subie guy. What I am not seeing in your photos is the CAI and turbo inlet hose area.
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Is the turbo inlet hose like this? If all this plumbing is stock then I have to question why oil is not getting into the intake.
When we raise our boost into the 16+ PSI range, where premium, 93 octane fuel is mandatory, then you run the risk of oil getting into the intake during hard cornering and diluting the octane. Blowby increases as boost goes up. This octane dilution then leads to detonation and stock piston ring-lands break rather easily. It happened to me with my rather stock '08 STi. I knew it was an issue so I added a catch-can. My Moroso catch can quickly filled up and then started dumping it into the inlet. Sudden smoke, from burning oil, is the first indicator.
How you don't have this occurring under high G's is a mystery to me. The KB stuff can help a lot, but it can only do so much during sustained G's.

[bstuke]

Lucky?

Pretty sure all of that is stock. Running VP C16 120 Octane..

[Scargo]

Well, I've warned you. Can't tell you how many hundreds, nay thousands :confused: of people who have busted ring lands from injesting oil into the intake. Besides mine, I witnessed one go ka-boom from it. Intermittent oil in the intake may not cause enough detonation to break pistons because of your high octane. Watch for oil consumption and smoke.

[bstuke]

Well, I've warned you. Can't tell you how many hundreds, nay thousands :confused: of people who have busted ring lands from injesting oil into the intake. Besides mine, I witnessed one go ka-boom from it. Intermittent oil in the intake may not cause enough detonation to break pistons because of your high octane. Watch for oil consumption and smoke.How does oil get in the intake?

[Hindsight]

Through the PCV system. Can do either an AOS or catch can. AOS is a little more elaborate but maintenance free. For your purposes, a catch can would probably be the best option. I'm not 100% certain that the catch cans do as good a job as a top of the line (heated) AOS at removing all the oil vapor though. I can show you my AOS if you like.

Hey Bob, can you please post a pic showing how your 295 rear wheels and tires fit?

[Mitch Wright]

Bob, I have put off a Drysump for now and installed a Crawford AOS and the Killer Bee Oil Control Valve. Haven't run it yet but after research others have had good results.

[bstuke]

Hey Bob, can you please post a pic showing how your 295 rear wheels and tires fit?It's in the trailer...

So I have the offset trailing arm. You have to mount it for clearance on the inside of both mount points, then shim the outer part. I got away with about an 1/8 inch spacer so it had good room to rotate if needed.

The wheel I used is an Enkei Kojin 18X9.5 +45 5x100. I have ARP studs, and had to use 2 10mm spacers to get it back out off the trailing arm, but still under the wheel well. The tire is actually a 285/30ZR18 Hoosier A6.

[Hindsight]

Thanks Bob. I'll paste in the Tire & Wheel thread as well.

[metalmaker12]

I have the Perrin aos set up for race with no pcv. It is considered the newer setup in the community, but I have been doing this for a long time. The Crawford Aos is the other proven Aos method with no pcv. I auto crossed and tracked my Wrx with this method. I can send you a diagram of my setup.

[Mitch Wright]

Bob, there are a few photos of installed AOS systems on a few different built threads, here is a photo of mine.4880748808
These shots are before I had the water lines run.
As Metalmaker has pointed out this system eliminates the PCV valve.

[bstuke]

In case anyone is interested. No I am not buying an NP01! We are simply working towards heading out to the islands.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?19854-FFR-818R-001-For-Sale

[Tamra]

awe, just when I was hoping we could meet up with our 818's at an event next season :(

[bstuke]

awe, just when I was hoping we could meet up with our 818's at an event next season :(Come to Dixie! I should still have it then.

[Mitch Wright]

Good luck on your Sale Bill.

[bstuke]

Good luck on your Sale Bill.Bill? who is Bill? Thanks Mitch. If you ever tear away from that Motorsports Park, come see us in Grand Cayman. Bob

[Kurk818]

Bill? who is Bill? Thanks Mitch. If you ever tear away from that Motorsports Park, come see us in Grand Cayman. Bob

I think he ment Bill of Sale :D as in it'll sell fast.

[Mitch Wright]

WIll do.

[FFRSpec72]

In case anyone is interested. No I am not buying an NP01! We are simply working towards heading out to the islands.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?19854-FFR-818R-001-For-Sale

I spent time with an NP01 a the 25hr Thunderhill. no thanks, not for that price, and some serious design issues with the transaxles. Good luck with the sale, I'm sure you won't have any problems selling and enjoy GC.