Open house photos/videos

[spaceywilly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG8PHL7Gbvo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOmmeuXiu0

Official Factory five vid
http://youtu.be/KnT-JBjjNBg

http://imgur.com/I1rOiJD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FKnhpO5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nqVLkhx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9LHceUY.jpg (http://imgur.com/9LHceUY)

[bnr32jason]

What was the weight!? LOL, the video cut off before I could hear him say the final weight.

[C.Plavan]

18 something..lol

[spaceywilly]

1828. Yeah I was waiting for him to say it but he never did

[bnr32jason]

1827 according to FF's Facebook page.

I'm really glad to see that weight is with bigger aftermarket wheels and tires.



edit: Oops, guess I should refresh the page before posting again. :)

[spaceywilly]

The wheels are wedsport tc105n. 14.7lbs each

[bnr32jason]

14.7lbs for the front if they are 17x7.5, but what about the rear? All the pictures appear they are running 17's on the front and 18's on the back, unless the pictures just make it look that way. If we assume 18x9's on the rear that would put them at ~17.2lbs (give or take a few ounces) so 63.8lbs front and rear total. VERY light for a 17/18 stagger set. The only thing lighter you are going to find is something like a CE28N which would give you 59.7lbs for the same sizes.

So with CE28's in a 17/18 stagger with some lightweight Wilwood brakes front and rear you should be inching towards (and maybe even achieving) 17xx lbs. I wonder how much those GTM seats weigh and if the main engine harness has been put on a diet or not?

We should see some turbo 818S's in the 17xx range and many of the NA builds should easily get 17xx.

[RSxx]

After seeing the first video, it seems that the small intakes on top of the rear side panels are no longer there. Anxious to see more close up pictures. Also still wondering how the intercooler is getting air flow. I am sure there are no issues, just trying to understand.

That 818s is just so sexy!!! The white black combo with the front splitter and the other details are simply WOW!!!

Now my November delivery seems too far out, I need instant gratification NOW.

What an amazing job the FFR team has done.

I am simply kicking myself for not attending the open house. I have wanted to visit FFR so many times, I'll have to push it until delivery.

[spaceywilly]

They said the intercooler gets enough air because there is low pressure underneath it, so air gets drawn through it that way. It makes sense because if you put a vent on top of the bonnet, it would also be a low pressure there and cancel the low pressure from underneath, reducing flow. The R still has the scoop on the passenger side nacelle but on the S that would eat your girlfriend's hair.

[joshuo]

They said the intercooler gets enough air because there is low pressure underneath it, so air gets drawn through it that way. It makes sense because if you put a vent on top of the bonnet, it would also be a low pressure there and cancel the low pressure from underneath, reducing flow. The R still has the scoop on the passenger side nacelle but on the S that would eat your girlfriend's hair.

Hmm.. looks like they generate a low pressure inside the engine bay by having no floor. However, Wayne said that the production version has a full faired floor...
That would severely reduce the pressure drop...

[bnr32jason]

Did anyone look under the S model to see if the underbody is mostly flat? Like this is what I mean:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/k11b11k11/oTHeR/PICT0082.jpg

[RSxx]

They said the intercooler gets enough air because there is low pressure underneath it, so air gets drawn through it that way. It makes sense because if you put a vent on top of the bonnet, it would also be a low pressure there and cancel the low pressure from underneath, reducing flow. The R still has the scoop on the passenger side nacelle but on the S that would eat your girlfriend's hair.

Thanks for the clarification and info.

[timmy318]

We need more!!!!

[flytosail]

Did anyone look under the S model to see if the underbody is mostly flat? Like this is what I mean:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/k11b11k11/oTHeR/PICT0082.jpg

That looks like it was an un-planned underbody inspection.

[cmcintyre]

One more view of the Roll In

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9IbWXOAPt8&feature=youtu.be

[spaceywilly]

Added links to HD video and some photos

[Benji]

Soooooooo.... The FFR 828 then :-D

[Movieman]

I think I just wetted myself and thats embarrassing at 61...:D

[longislandwrx]

The car is totally flat on the bottom. I was told it can be delivered and set flat on your driveway/garage with no support needed.

[longislandwrx]

Also, my pictures were all to large, but you can see them on photobucket.

http://s139.photobucket.com/user/macrokilla/library/FF%20Open%20House

[longislandwrx]

After seeing the first video, it seems that the small intakes on top of the rear side panels are no longer there. Anxious to see more close up pictures. Also still wondering how the intercooler is getting air flow. I am sure there are no issues, just trying to understand.


those intakes are still there. there was no flow to the IC other than the top vent and not a great place to put it. I think we will have to get real creative with the piping.



So with CE28's in a 17/18 stagger with some lightweight Wilwood brakes front and rear you should be inching towards (and maybe even achieving) 17xx lbs. I wonder how much those GTM seats weigh and if the main engine harness has been put on a diet or not?


The Street car had a full harness diet, lightweight battery and already had lightweight brakes in the front. They said the rear wildwood kit is actually heavier than the stock setup. It was also missing a lot of parts (no rear wheel wells, missing several of the grill inserts) it was already pretty stripped.

[joshuo]

those intakes are still there. there was no flow to the IC other than the top vent and not a great place to put it. I think we will have to get real creative with the piping.

Is the top vent directly above the IC? If so we could rely on the dynamic pressure increase (which generates a low pressure region at speed) above the vent to suck air through the intercooler, effectively reversing the flow compared to it's path in the WRX. then we could make a shroud from the side intakes to the bottom of the TMIC.
You'd be surprised how much a difference a good electric fan makes for the turbo lotus guys too!

Kinda like this, assuming we have enough room:

[C.Plavan]

Also, my pictures were all to large, but you can see them on photobucket.

http://s139.photobucket.com/user/macrokilla/library/FF%20Open%20House

Great pictures of the suspension. Thanks! Not a lot of room for wider tires in that one picture.

[PhyrraM]

If there is a good low pressure area over the intercooler, and the seal to the deck is good, then there is no need for any type ductwork under the intercooler to a side scoop of vent. You just need a supply of ambient air to replace what is sucked out through the intercooler by the low pressure zone.

[joshuo]

If there is a good low pressure area over the intercooler, and the seal to the deck is good, then there is no need for any type ductwork under the intercooler to a side scoop of vent. You just need a supply of ambient air to replace what is sucked out through the intercooler by the low pressure zone.

true, I didn't mean to make it sound like ducts to the intercooler would be necessary, it could help a bit though.

[Canadian818]

Also, my pictures were all to large, but you can see them on photobucket.

http://s139.photobucket.com/user/macrokilla/library/FF%20Open%20House


Some really great pics of the suspension in here, thanks!

[longislandwrx]

It's hard to tell but pretty sure the top vent is farther rear than where the intercooler sits in the stock configuration. And there was no seal to the deck. There was a good 2-3 inches or more above the intercooler to get good flow you will need something.

[joshuo]

It's hard to tell but pretty sure the top vent is farther rear than where the intercooler sits in the stock configuration. And there was no seal to the deck. There was a good 2-3 inches or more above the intercooler to get good flow you will need something.

If it looks like it'll be too much of a hassle, I'm thinking of just going with a water to air setup..

[longislandwrx]

18482

borrowed this picture from another user.. THANKS...! you can see how far back the vent is.

[metalmaker12]

I was told that the side vents over the rear wheel wells will bring in the air to the intercooler with some type of venting setup that was not shown. Something they tested and was not installed on the open house car.

[flytosail]

18482

borrowed this picture from another user.. THANKS...! you can see how far back the vent is.


Is that vent only needed for the turbo's intercooler?

[metalmaker12]

I am thinking it has a function along with the side vents above the quarters and the side vents to get air to the engine and intercooler