Factory Five Customer Edward S. Finishes FFR Hot Rod #297

[Mad Dog]

Factory Five customer Edward S. sent us an e-mail with photos of his almost finished Factory Five Hot Rod. Edward started the build with five other Hot Rods in his garage, all of them ’34s. He built the Factory Five ’33 with some modifications to make it look more like a the ’34s in his collection.

https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FF-Victoria-at-Freddies-Barn-Addition-001.jpg

Edward used a carbureted small block Ford mated to an AOD transmission from TCI, running through an 8.8″ Moser rear end with Factory Five’s 3-link rear-suspension.

https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FF-at-Freddies-Deer-at-the-Feeder-029.jpg

The wheels are 15″ x 8″ and 15″ x 10″ McLean Classic Hand Trued Wire wheels with 52-laced stainless steel spokes and powder coated rims and hubs. The tires are BF Goodrich T/A P225/60R15 in the front and BF Goodrich T/A P255/70R15 in the rear.

https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FF-Victoria-at-Freddies-Barn-Addition-004.jpg

Some of the mods Edward made to make the car look more like a ’34 included installing a custom 1934 cowl vent and louvered ’34 side panels, modifying the fenders and running boards to the ’34 style, and building custom frame extensions to support the front and rear Ford bumpers. He also installed the ’34 Ford chrome horns and custom glove box.

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Congratulations Edward on a fantastic build!

[68GT500MAN]

Great job with your build. Now I have more ideas to work with.
Doug

[Vman7]

I love this car!!!! At first I thought it wasn't a FFR 33. Outstanding job Edward! :)

I would like to see and know more about the custom cowl, engine panel louvers and the extensions he did for the bumpers. Is there a build thread anywhere we could check out?

The bumper extensions could be a very good solution for those who have to have bumpers in their states.

David

[Tim Whittaker]

Very, very nice !!!! More pictures please !!!!!

[Arm7419]

Beautiful car

[Tim Whittaker]

Can you share where the cowl lights came from ? Thanks.

[154079]

Hi Tim,
The cowl lights are actually 1934 Ford aftermarket lights. They are available from any number of
aftermarket suppliers. I purchased these from Dick Spadaro's Early Fords in Altamont, NY.

Dick Spadaro 518-861-5367

[154079]

I love this car!!!! At first I thought it wasn't a FFR 33. Outstanding job Edward! :)

I would like to see and know more about the custom cowl, engine panel louvers and the extensions he did for the bumpers. Is there a build thread anywhere we could check out?

The bumper extensions could be a very good solution for those who have to have bumpers in their states.

David
David I sent a rather lengthy response and lost it in the transmission someway.

[Vman7]

David I sent a rather lengthy response and lost it in the transmission someway.

My e-mail address took out for safety if you would like questions
answered about the 1934 Ford modifications.

Ed I sent a PM and an email

[Arrowhead]

Is there a build thread anywhere we could check out?


I had posted some progress pictures for Ed a while back on the other forum:

http://www.ffcars.com/forums/120-factory-five-33-hot-rod-forum-sponsored-e-t-wheels/280262-awesome-hot-rod-build-upsate-ny.html

[Vman7]

I had posted some progress pictures for Ed a while back on the other forum:

http://www.ffcars.com/forums/120-factory-five-33-hot-rod-forum-sponsored-e-t-wheels/280262-awesome-hot-rod-build-upsate-ny.html

Thanks Arrowhead :), don't know how I missed that.

[154079]

Good morning David,
George Robitaille, “arrowhead” posted some photos early on when I started the car and they
will give you a glance into some of the modifications.

The Cowl openings are simply cut out, saving the cutouts and using them as replacement lids.
A ledge was added below the opening so the lids could be set in place and fastened down with
S.S. fasteners. The larger openings are nice when attaching the Roadster Windshield. The engine
side panels and inner fenders are all steel and were formed from flat sheet metal. They each have
formed mating frames around them, the Hood Sides Panels can be installed or removed by simply
raising the hood and lifting them out. The inner fender panels stay in place and are attached to the
frame as well as the fenders. The Fenders are original 1934 Ford parts that have been modified to
wrap down under the grill and extended to meet the Running Boards. The Hood and Fenders on a
Factory Five Car are about 8 inches longer than the original 1934 Ford. The Running Boards are 34
Original Steel that are also modified to conform to the Factory Five chassis and to meet the original
Ford front fender lines. The cowl Vent is all original 1934 parts and the opening was fabricated.

The Front and rear Bumpers are Original 1934 parts. I purchased 34 Front Frame Horns from a
1934 chassis, made brackets that allowed them to be bolted to the Factory Five chassis and simply
made the attachment. The rear bumpers were another project!! The entire rear portion of the car
has been modified. The trunk lower panel was all modified including the latching mechanism and
anything around it. The portion of the body below the trunk was extended 5.5 inches and bumper
bracket mounts were formed into the fiberglass. A frame was constructed, added to the Factory
Five chassis and bolted in place before the body was placed onto the car. From that point it was a
matter of attaching the Bumpers and modifying the rear fenders to replicate the look of a 1934
Ford from the rear view.

I actually have seven 34 Fords including this Replica, they all have the original vintage appearance
including spoke wheels, full fenders, a hood and a stance that looks like Henry Ford built the cars. My
goal was to have the Factory Five closely resemble the cars I have with the lower stance. I’ve had fun
with the project and feel I accomplished what I set out to do. I would admit that I have more time and
money in this car than expected, but it’s cute! I have all kinds of pictures of this project so if you have
a particular area that you are interested let me know and I will send those pictures.

Ed Seagroatt

[Vman7]

Good timing Ed, I just logged on......

Thanks for the great info on the mod.s! :)

I figured you might have used 34 frame horns, was mostly wondering just how well they would work, and you pulled it off. The rear frame I gathered had to be some form of a subframe built, cool that you could just bolt it in.

Pretty much everything you said, mostly about doing the bumpers/frame, and the side engine panels are pretty much the way I figured they would be done. Nice to know somebody actually did it.

Thanks for all of the info on your vision on doing all that work. :)

David

[Vman7]

Ed was kind enough to send me some photos on some details for posting. Not sure in which order they were actually done, but I have tried to keep them in groups.

David

[Vman7]

Cowl Area

Cowl Vent pattern to be cut out and re-formed

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17994&d=1369884517

Cowl Vent formed and placed in the car

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17995&d=1369884520

Cowl vent frame being bonded in place

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17996&d=1369884523

Cowl Vent and mechanism placement

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17997&d=1369884527

Cowl vent frame & mechanism brackets being bonded in place

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17998&d=1369884531

[Vman7]

more of the Cowl Area

Cowl Vent frame inside finished
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17999&d=1369884533

Cowl Vent frame outside finished
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18000&d=1369884536

Finished Cowl Vent
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18001&d=1369884538

Wiper system & Cowl Vent mechanism
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18002&d=1369884541

[Vman7]

Dash Area

Dash Gauge pattern
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18003&d=1369885237

Original 1934 Ford Glove Box
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18004&d=1369885239

Inside view of the Glove Box
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18005&d=1369885243

[Vman7]

Fenders

Front Fender Re-Construction
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18006&d=1369885469

Adding to the Front Fender to go around the grille
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18007&d=1369885473

Adding to the Fender Skirt to line with the Running Board
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18008&d=1369885475

Rear Fender Re-construction
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18011&d=1369885484

Rear Fender Tail construction
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18012&d=1369885486

[Vman7]

Running Boards & Lower Rear Panel

Rear Fender Running Board mating
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18013&d=1369885489

Front Fender Running Board mating
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18009&d=1369885477

Lower rear panel started to accommodate the Bumper installation
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18010&d=1369885481

[Vman7]

Running Board Support Arms

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18014&d=1369886700

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18015&d=1369886701

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18016&d=1369886703

[Vman7]

Engine Side Panels & Inner Fenders

Engine Panel Pattern
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18017&d=1369886883

Louver stamped Engine panels
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18018&d=1369886885

Louvered Engine Side Panel cut to shape
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18019&d=1369886886

Mating Engine Side Panel and Inner Fender Panel Edges
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18024&d=1369886899

Inner Fender panel rear view
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18023&d=1369886898

[Vman7]

more Engine Side Panels & Inner Fenders

Engine Side Panel & Inner Fender installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18020&d=1369886889

Mating Engine Side Panel & Inner Fender
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18022&d=1369886896

Finished Cowl Vent & Engine Side Panel installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18021&d=1369886892

[Vman7]

Front Frame Horns

Front Frame Horn fabrication
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18025&d=1369887460

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18026&d=1369887462

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18027&d=1369887463

[Vman7]

Front Frame Horns Installed

Driver side Front Frame Horn & fender bracket
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18028&d=1369887467

Driver side Front Frame Horn & fender bracket
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18029&d=1369887470

Driver side Front Frame Horn installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18030&d=1369887472

Passenger side Front Frame Horn & fender Bracket installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18031&d=1369887475

[Vman7]

Rear Bumper Frame

Laying out Rear Bumper Frame
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18032&d=1369887894

Rear Bumper frame
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18033&d=1369887897

Rear Bumper Frame attachment points
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18034&d=1369887900

[Vman7]

more Rear Bumper Frame

Rear Bumper Frame temmporarily attached
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18035&d=1369887903

Rear Bumper Frame finished & installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18036&d=1369887906

Bumper temporarily attached
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18037&d=1369887908

[Vman7]

Trunk Latch beginning modification
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18047&d=1369888318

[Vman7]

E-Brake

E-Brake Mounting Bracket
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18044&d=1369888310

E-Brake Brackets installed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18045&d=1369888313

E-Brake and cable brackets
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18046&d=1369888316

[Vman7]

Driveline Tunnel

Driveline Tunnel being formed
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18042&d=1369888306

Driveline Tunnel finished
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18043&d=1369888308

[Vman7]

Inside Door Details

Door frame & hinge setup
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18038&d=1369888294

Modified Door Latch / Structure System
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18039&d=1369888297

Door Window Electric channel
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18040&d=1369888300

Electric Window Handle and Switch
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18041&d=1369888302

[Vman7]

Enjoy all the pictures! :)

Hopefully some of these pictures will help with those who need to have or just want bumpers or nerf bars. Some really good ideas here.

Thanks Ed for sending the pictures :)

David

[wallace18]

Wow! that was a lot of work. It sure came out nice.

[WIS89]

Extraordinary work on this beauty!! Wow, what a vision to make this all come together.

Thanks for sharing the pictures on how you made it come together. What attention to detail. Stunning work!

Regards,

Steve

[68GT500MAN]

Thanks David for posting all of the detailed photos. Now back to the garage with many new ideas!
Doug

[ehansen007]

Amazing work. Truly. Hopefully Dave will have Dino shoot this car at some point. Really incredible.

[TomZ 33]

Wow - what a great build! Nice work.

[PrairieRenegade]

Fantastic build. Thank you Ed for sharing yours and your teams efforts.

[Arm7419]

Amazing. Just beautiful

Chuck